No.979 [Last50 Posts]
that even pre-feminist times, women have always been pampered when it comes to dealing with mental illness or trauma, and things have gotten exponentially worse, all these years of "man up, suck it up bro" and whatnot on top of it have caused a sharp rise in suicides? I tend to think male suicide has been always higher than female suicide, even before feminism, and its just getting worse. men don't get the same treatment and help and have always been more successful since the dawn of time its just being rising hard the last several decades?
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No.1010
>>979
men are disposable. this is the real redpill. to guard the race (by guarding the womb) God made a man separate from woman, and made him the fighter to stand out before her, in order to better guard the womb.
men can have 1000's of children if the right circumstances are present, a woman can have like 1-15 tops. hypergamy is also built into women to keep only the strongest survivor types of males breeding.
it is extremely "unfair" but thats life on earth, and fairness is a delusion.
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No.1011
>>1010
my point is this is a cause of male/female relations related suicide.
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No.1018
>>1010
So men have to change instinctive behaviour to fit society but women don't? Nice logic there femi/pol/
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No.1021
>>1018
you have too much faith in women's ability to self-reflect on their own decisions, m8
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No.1022
my point is women are NPC by default. men have the ability to break the conditioning. women don't. and besides MK-ULTRA level brainwashing there's not much we can do, and that kind of stuff done by the general public is pretty much illegal and women will make accusations of 'gaslighting', which they put on par with 'rape'. permanent victim status. nothing ever makes them happy and they can't see their own wrongdoing or as I said, self-reflect.
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No.1025
>>1018
you are illogical like a female. methinks you project. also, there is nothing in my post about anyone changing behavior. i told it like it is.
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No.1026
>>1018
also, dont come here to whine.
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No.1033
>>1025
>>1026
you should freely be able to gaslight women into changing their biological instincts if you please. MUH. EGO. DIK.
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No.1036
>>979
The value of men is in their physical and mental strength. The value of women is in their inner and outer beauty.
You can't hold both sexes up to the same standards unless you've been brainwashed into believing in male-female equality and that boys and girls are exactly the same on all levels except physical.
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No.1038
>>1036
>The value of women is in their inner and outer beauty.
outer yes, inner lol what?
>>1033
you're clearly not a White person. probably a flip with all moaning, beta talk, and non-linear thinking.
fuck off https://8ch.net/pinoy/index.html
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No.1047
>>979
who cares i'm not going to blame wiminz for my life, pathetic
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No.1050
>>1036
I tend to believe that though, to an extent. Women are just defective versions of us.
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No.1051
>>1047
Women are pathetic though. Our current state reflects that.
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No.1053
men don't get the same treatment and help because of the expectations set by other men to be manly I think - I don't necessarily it's a women problem because women don't really care to be honest, if anything, being sensitive is a positive trait in men
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No.1056
>>1053
High iq. We must stick together.
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No.1060
Men are better off "manning up" because it's what we do. It's in our nature. The problem is the rewards for it are being taken away. You had to man up because you were the patriarch and responsible for your shit. Now you man up and you don't get to throw your weight around you're just a pack animal others to bleed dry. People won't even respect you for it.
Women had different responsibilities. They were responsible for the inner workings of a household. Their primary responsibility was caring for the children. Women were honored because childbirth was a dangerous ordeal. She wasn't beaten into submission to hold up her end she was rewarded. Again that reward is gone. The last version of it was the house wife and that's a dying breed since nobody can afford it and they're shamed for doing it anyway.
So we have what we have now. Men who aren't rewarded for being good men, and women who aren't rewarded for being good women, so everyone instead just acts like a selfish degenerate sack of shit and hates each other. We no longer have the bricks that make civilization, the family, and that is why our civilization is no longer fit to survive.
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No.1089
>>1038
Obviously you'd want a chick who's kind and caring, especially if she's going to be the mother of your children, if you don't then it's probably because your mother was a bitch, or just mentally ill, and subconciously you're seeking out shitty women similar to her to unwittingly continue the cycle of abuse.
>>1050
Again, that's just expecting women to be men, and holding them up to our standards. It's the meninist version of feminist arguments like "why can't men show their vulnerable side and cry more? Why do they have to act stoic all the time?" or some shit like that.
Basically what's good for women is bad for men and vice-versa, this is clearly evident by our failing societies full of feminized beta males and aggressive masculine women.
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No.1107
>>1089
>Again, that's just expecting women to be men, and holding them up to our standards
Women aren't held to any standards, they literally just do whatever they want
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No.1108
>>1107
>Women aren't held to any standards
OP is holding them to men's standards.
>they literally just do whatever they want
They shouldn't. They should be held to the standards of women from the 1800s.
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No.1142
>>1108
but that's how feminism fucked itself. what goes around comes around I guess.
>>1107
not during the reign of Stalin or Hitler. we never had an actual dictator here and that's a bad thing now that I think about it.
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No.1143
>>1142
You really do not fucking want someone like Stalin.
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No.1144
>>1089
So women shouldn't have responsibility for their actions?
Nice one, Spock
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No.1145
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No.1146
>>1143
Mix of him and Hitler with extreme misogyny tacked on for keks
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No.1166
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No.1169
>>1145
So I heard you like inawoods? http://archive.is/IfZ69
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No.1255
>>1169
wew lad. that's horrible.
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No.1322
Most men don't have empathy towards other men, they will just protect women because they want sexual benefits. Women don't recognize the existence of beta males, they look at the alphas and think every male is like that, so suicide ratings on the male demographic is not something they care. Just accept that downplaying men's problems is a thing that have always existed, and will keep existing no matter what.
I would like to say you guys to just find strenght within, but how could I if I can't do it myself? My message is only the one of hopeless.
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No.1326
>>1322
muh defeatism
being serial killer > you said
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No.1328
ALSO
>Brazilian
you should go for it. your place is a hellhole anyways. nobody will notice.
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No.1348
>>1322
you're right. i agree.
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No.1349
>>1326
political assassin > serial killer.
at least do it like a thinking man. serial killing is for niggers
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No.1356
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No.1367
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No.1370
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No.2756
God made a big mistake splitting the human race into two seperate genders. To have a breed of beautiful ripped warriors dying for stupid values while the other breed is forced to stay home and bless her elders with her smiles. Heterosexual romance is like a shitty Hallmark Channel movie.
Thank God for shoujo-ai and shonen ai.
Boys are never appreciated as they are. Its always "Hes too quiet/loud/serious/jocular/blunt/passive, etc."
Girls are always being harrassed about their purity. They cannot go out solo for a few hours or else shes "whoring around."
If anything, God should have made us into bishonen hermaphrodites with masculine and feminine neuro-wirings into a single brain. Chivalry would be a personal contract rather than a social law. Mutual impregnation will discourage raping friends' siblings.
Make us with male torsos with female thighs, no bodily or facial hair, no boobs, wide vocal range, and make us pee standing up .
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No.2759
>>2756
I laughed a little internally because it's one of those "it's funny because it's true semi-ironically" statements. I always "admired" transhumanists because they always seen the world with its endless possibilities as far as you have developed technology. They would simply say to you that "don't worry, this will become possible soon my friend" with fucking smile on their faces. I mean, you have to realize absurdity of this to a certain degree. For me this way of thinking is something like a good story I wish I would see coming true just for the fuck of it. Nonetheless, human body is pretty niggerlicious invention by divine standards. It seems to me as if God (if exist) cobbled together something that kinda worked and said it's good enough like a typical software developer in corporation. You have to keep drinking and eating or you die, you have to produce feces and piss because you eat, if you don't shit, sweat, piss, you die. You have stuff like cancer which is like flaw of the design of DNA, and so on. I mean, this absurd vision of transhumanism brings a lot of optimism and at the same with progressing technology becomes less and less absurd. Truly a fucked up - and hillarious at the same time - times we live in.
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No.2785
>>2759
We can only hope that if Transhumanists ever get their way, they'll engineer it all into humanity at the basic genetic level, so no matter what crisis comes, future generations will always be blessed like this.
I would give up my life to deadly genetic experimentation any day, were I promised that it would give my metaphorical "children" life in a perfect body.
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No.2787
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No.2825
>>979
Women are the niggers of gender.
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No.2834
>>2825
>niggers of gender
Is there a nigger for everything nowadays?
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No.2846
>>2825
guatamalans and mexicans are the niggers of latinos
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No.2858
>>2834
The alt-right has taken over everything
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No.2861
>>2858
niggers of gender is far older than "alt right"
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No.2877
>>2858
calling things nigger is not unique to the alt-right
i've been calling things niggers since before all that.
this thread is a nigger
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No.5769
As hip-hop artist Sean Carter once said:
"I got ninety-nine problems but a bitch ain't one."
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No.18828
>>1322
>Women don't recognize the existence of beta males, they look at the alphas and think every male is like that, so suicide ratings on the male demographic is not something they care. Just accept that downplaying men's problems is a thing that have always existed, and will keep existing no matter what.
Reverse the genders and you'd still come up with the same exact problem: men don't recognize the existence of ugly women. You may say something like "well, they can still get sex anon," but that's not what I'm talking about - I'm talking about being seen as a person, as an individual, not just a tool to get off. People of both genders look at the alphas and see them as how every male/female is or should be - they downplay the problems of the losers, that is, everyone else underneath said alphas. Whether it's a thot who latches onto beta males to leech off their wallets or a manwhore who will fuck any non-Stacy woman just because he can, pumping and dumping her, the common thread that forms a noose around our necks is that you and I were born into a callously indifferent world. In another thread, one anon said the only question that mattered was if you were born into capital or not. I would contend that instead, the question is whether or not you won the genetic lottery. The Victoria Secret's model, Adriana Lima, once thanked her parents for the good genes when asked how she looked so beautiful (whether you think she is is subjective - I'm just mentioning this for the sake of argument) - she has it made accordingly. The whole world is her oyster simply because of her looks. Whether you believe in the Wall or not, it doesn't matter - by the time it applies to her, she already has lived the life you never have, that you never will. In male terms, think of the prototypical Chads - if they're born into capital, they don't have to work, but even if they're not, they don't have to either - just looking attractive has been proven by many studies to increase the odds of success in matters of career and finances; you literally don't have to do a thing, because normies conflate attractive looks with trustworthiness. Simply put, if you're not considered attractive by society, you're pretty much fucked no matter how good you are elsewhere. Hell, if this doesn't appeal to you at all, then consider this alternative theory: this world was designed for the sociopaths among us, and that's why we're all posting on this imageboard in lieu of actually having a real life to live.
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No.18829
>>979
Women have always been pampered. Also,
>pre-feminist
You do know feminism is the reason for the fall of Rome, right? Feminism rears its ugly head during any time of "over-prosperity", precipitating collapse and re-emergence of patriarchy to make things right. And because girls can do no wrong their crimes are quickly swept under the rug, and history is doomed to repeat itself yet again.
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No.18856
>>18829
>And because girls can do no wrong their crimes are quickly swept under the rug, and history is doomed to repeat itself yet again.
Most people in general think like that, anon. Blame women all you want, but don't forget that most men are really no better. Universal suffrage was the real mistake, not giving women the chance to share with men the fantasy that they actually mattered.
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No.18865
>>18856
To add, as pic related said:
>Do not blame Caesar, blame the people of Rome who have so enthusiastically acclaimed and adored him and rejoiced in their loss of freedom and danced in his path and gave him triumphal processions. … Blame the people who hail him when he speaks in the Forum of the 'new, wonderful good society' which shall now be Rome's, interpreted to mean more money, more ease, more security, more living fatly at the expense of the industrious.
Notice how all the people blaming X group are usually just as guilty of doing Y by their own lack of drive and willingness to sacrifice? Many of them prefer to die as sheep than live as lions - making them no different than any other normalfag. The truth is that nobody really gives a fuck about anything, but at least doomers are ironically man enough to admit it.
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No.18867
>>18856
As I said in >>2756 , the biological gender-binary system was a cosmic flop.
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No.18869
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>18867
>a cosmic flop
Feels more like we're in one of those generic "let's kill all the sims in lolrandom ways guiz" videos on Jewtube if you ask me. I honestly think Depeche Mode were onto something when they released this musical blackpill. I like to think it's a great candidate for a doomer anthem based on the lyrics - no wonder normies hated them so much over it.
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No.19140
>>1038
jeez this thread is old I don't remember seeing this reply. and yeah I'm white and 'beta talk' is just a term assholes who should be gunned down in high schools say to smaller men who assert themselves, and if they don't get to, the school gets holocausted. rinse, repeat. its tiresome
>>18869
I do like me some Depeche Mode. lemme get at that.
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No.19141
seems like its the same "Americans are at fault"
I mean I get it, I really do, but back then talking negative about the jews in the 80s was blasphemy in itself. Jesus is an okay target but blaming Yeshua is off-limits. I hate /pol/'s market fundamentalism but they're right about certain things. although its one thing to blame jews for ethnicity (something they can't help), its another to call penance on the religious beliefs of them. only 90s black metal bands such GBK got the ball rolling on that one.
nah I don't Depeche Mode. I like them. but Europeans talk shit on religion way more than Americans do and its probably why Macron played the fiddle while Notre Dame burned.
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No.29012
>>979
Wanna know why?
CHIVALRY.
Chivalry was a bad idea from the start. Grown men getting all giddy over some maiden like theyre excited kids with new toys, wanting to fight for her "honor", just bc shes some run-of-the-mill passive, frail, squeaky-voiced, blushing dame. Chivalry is men acting like jackasses to get some girl's attention, blurting out cliched/cringey compliments, "laughing" at some ladies' "jokes", harassing boys to help out their female classmates with one-person manual labor, harassing boys for failing at a simple task in front of girls, its a fucking farce. All of this just so some dude can feel like his balls finally dropped. Its just glorified simping.
Weve raised women to be worshipped and protected for centuries and we wonder why theyre so infantile?
All of this is because we men are morbidly sentimental, obsessing about proving ourselves too much. That's why we kill ourselves (if not everyone else) literally and metaphorically because some idea we've had sitting in our hearts suddenly died.
Its why women can easily play us for fools.
If you wanna solve the "masculinity crisis" and female narcissism, STOP KILLING YOURSELF OVER IDEALS!
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No.29020
>>18828
You have some good points doomer but you drop the ball at saying ugly women have it just as bad.
Ugly women still have it easier than the average man, your comparison is like saying a middle class guy complaining he's a millonaire is the same than a hobo starving in the streets.
These are entirely different levels of suffering, an ugly chick's bad day would be just another day for an average guy.
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No.29181
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No.29182
>>19141
>nah I don't Depeche Mode.
The song makes a pretty good point, though. It's a scenario rarely explored, because it'd make most people uncomfortable.
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No.29183
>>18829
>You do know feminism is the reason for the fall of Rome, right?
Bruh, do you history? The Fall of the Western Roman Empire had nothing to do with suffrage and everything to do with simple economics and outside threats. The Roman Empire was massive and had already broken apart into the East and West– the West was closet to the Arabs and Moors and Berbers and had less military strength than the East. The Eastern Roman Empire lasted for centuries after the fall of the West, which wasn't 'ancient' times, but late antiquity. Honestly, get with the times already. Look at what you've lost out on. When you're a boomer's age, is this what you want to look back on?
>I spent the prime years of my life being a tryhard on a dead medium like imageboards?
Stop being a millenial and join the human race already.
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No.29209
>>1010
God hates self-efficiency. I really am starting to think the He made nature to be as fragile as possible as to spite man for wanting an ndependent fate.
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No.29241
>>1010
>hypergamy is also built into women to keep only the strongest survivor types of males breeding.
You self-hating faggots (because that's what you are, deep down, let's be honest) need to get some new material. The cross you're bearing is older than the one Jesus had at this point.
>MUH HYPERGAMY!!!!
Christ, you sound like the women you whine about so much. Always whining. Waaaaaah, I didn't win the genetic lottery! I didn't win this totally not arbitrary thing that results in Chad bouncers and security guards working for uggo short toadmen! Waaaaaah! Y'all should do what based Shuaiby did and spare us any further blathering.
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No.29242
>>29209
My personal theory is this: put yourself in God’s shoes—one size fits all. Here’s all these primates, right? And you give ‘em opposable thumbs, a brain designed for engineering, and a great, big, beautiful planet to live on, and the first thing they do is to write universal rules that are designed to make them miserable. Then, they breed like flies. Then, they take a perfectly functioning golden goose and have Goldman-Sachs slice it open from asshole to breakfast, looking for all the golden eggs—then, they insist that all these things are necessary and that the problem is that they didn’t do any of them enough! And then they pray to You to come unscrew up everything, while they’re continuing their efforts to find new and better ways to screw up everything some more. Is it really any wonder that God hasn’t said anything to us in more than two thousand years? Would you? Hell no! Why, He’s probably off somewhere starting over with a species that doesn’t start out by throwing shit at each other, but wherever He is: we’re here.
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No.29247
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No.29248
>>29247
Typical millenialoid sperging.
>WOMEN BAD!!!!!!!!!111111
You do realize universal suffrage as a whole was a mistake, right? Unless you have served your country or are serving, you shouldn't have a right to vote if you ask me. What does some slack-jawed failed adult yokel like you know about how the country should be governed when all you are is a NEET leech or some other mediocre loser? Look at pic rel. Are you telling me all these failed adults should have a right to vote simply because they're rocking (small) penises? The only way to save a society is to make it so only members of the military can vote. If you won't die for your country, let alone fight for her, what right do you have to determine how she lives?
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No.29254
>>29248
Even if you made it so that only people who have served in the military can vote, the voting population would still be almost entirely male.
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No.29255
>>29254
And that's the point. To allow the real men to vote, to make the country great again, while you lot shut up and fap to cuckime waifus or whatever. And to let those women with more balls than you vote too.
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