No.17861 [Last50 Posts]
Is /doomer/ism a legitimate underground subculture/counterculture? It just seems so rare these days.
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No.17868
It's not a legitimate subculture until the Japanese copy (and overly formalize) it.
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No.17945
grunge > emo > doomer
we are the new emos
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No.17961
>>17945
the musical tastes are more along the lines of goth/post-punk with some metal thrown in.
It's a moot point anyway because the idea of a subculture is dead in the west.
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No.18050
>>17961
>>17945
>turning it into some faggy sub culture
Dropped.
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No.18051
>>18050
Yeah, my point was that it will never happen.
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No.18057
>>17861
At what point is something a subculture as supposed to a bundle of weirdos with slightly similar behavior?
I think doomerism as such is quite widespread, though most people wouldn't even know what it is if you asked them if they're a doomer.
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No.18068
>>18065
You can't point out people at a show and say, "yep, they are definitely doomers", like you can do with Goths, Hipsters, Punks, etc.
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No.18225
>>18057
>I think doomerism as such is quite widespread, though most people wouldn't even know what it is if you asked them if they're a doomer.
Guilty of that.
Discovered the board only recently through wojak images.
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No.18226
>Using gay highschool nomenclature
This needs to stop. The idea of 20+ year olds being extremely depressed over things such as life, society, and self-loathing have been a constant since the dawn of sentience. It is nothing new, and you can find innumerable accounts written by these same peoples and their musings on their issues, some philosophers some the everyday man. The emergence of /doomer/ is more or less a version of /r9k/ that focuses primarily on the fall of Western civilization.
>>18065
I highly doubt anybody here willingly went into battle against the Roman naked
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No.18375
>>17868
>tfw you will never have a goth lolita gf
>>17945
>emos
>implying a bunch of late-20-early-30 failures with mental issues are the same than middle and upper class edgy teens with mascara and chains hanging from their pants
Its one thing to pretend to be sad and fucked and another to actually BEING sad and fucked with no future
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No.18377
Imagine 20 years from now 17 year old girls complaining how doomer has been taken over by basic bitches who just don't get it, who don't even know what 8chan was, who are just into it to look edgy and get attention from boys. Then doomer will be a legitimate subculture.
Subculture always exist in retrospect, always harnessing back to an authenticity that is lost in the very act of harnessing back to authenticity.
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No.18401
not really. if anything it's somewhere for outcasts of r9k to congregate where they genuinely feel at home rather than calling it a culture
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No.18644
>>17861
>rare
are you fucking kidding me? There's doomer playlists with hundreds of thousands of views on youtube. every autistic dork is calling themselves a doomer these days.
When i first saw the doomer meme i thought it was funny because it cut deep, i felt personally attacked. it was funny, but i thought it'd die after a couple weeks. But it didn't. instead it's took on a life of its own.
I have a sneaking suspicion that 90% of so-called doomers aren't actually doomers, they've just appropriated the lifestyle.
It's quite upsetting for me because it feels like my entire personality has been stolen. There's cringelords dressing like me, acting like me, listening to the same music as me - not because it came naturally to them, but because they want to fit into the doomer mould. doomer sounds cooler than incel virgin freak i guess.
Reminder that you're not a doomer if
>You don't smoke/only started smoking because of the doomer meme
>You only started dressing like a doomer after the doomer meme
>You only started listening to post-punk, coldwave, darkwave, shoegaze etc after the doomer meme
>Youre not at least 6/10
>You've never taken drugs/only started taking drugs after the doomer meme
>You're under 18
>You're over 30
>You're a virgin
If these apply to you, you're not a doomer. you're more likely just a run-of-the-mill autist.
I'm friends with people online who i've always known were apsie betas, but ever since the doomer meme they're forcing themselves to become that. They try so hard to fit the mould. You can't just base your personality on a fucking meme. Literally just b urself. It might hurt you, but you'll never be a genuine doomer. you can pick up as many stereotypical doomer behaviours as you want. dress in all black and walk around at night if you want, but you that isn't who you are.
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No.18663
>>18644
>no trve scotsman
Wizchan would love to have you back.
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No.18666
>>18644
William-san, I have no idea where this meme originated or who is using it on youtube. I just know that this is the board I felt home most ever since I found it in December. Like Putin-san said already
>this board is like /b/, /pol/ and /r9k/ but without their most cancerous elements
BTW, I wonder where he might be now. Did not see him posting for quite some time.
>You don't smoke/only started smoking because of the doomer meme
I never smoked. Except water pipe one time. Or was it twice. I am asthmatic so smoke and my lungs don't go well like water and oil
>You only started dressing like a doomer after the doomer meme
dunno. I always wear black adidas pants, black sneakers and black tshirt
why? because when it gets dirty, you don't see it right away
>You only started listening to post-punk, coldwave, darkwave, shoegaze etc after the doomer meme
I was always into nigger tier music like RnB and hip hop. Still am
>Youre not at least 6/10
by what standards? are we beauty contest now
>You've never taken drugs/only started taking drugs after the doomer meme
I tried to get high on codeine pills one time because there was reports on kiddies getting high on codeine syrup and I wondered what it is all about. It didn't work
>You're under 18
>You're over 30
28 this year
>You're a virgin
nobody is virgin past age 18 my friend
governement fucks us all in the ass
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No.18678
>>18644
I meet all of your requirement (except maybe the 6/10 part) and I'm sure a lot of other people on this board do as well.
I still think you need to calm down a bit. None of this is that serious.
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No.18679
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>18666
>nigger tier music
Try some without niggers.
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No.18695
>nigger nigger nigger nigger
fuck man
I love america
that freedom you can never have in yurop
to just use nigger like that without getting assraped by govt
Long live the hamburger empire
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No.18696
>>18695
Which won't be for long.
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No.18698
What makes this board good is that its not a united culture/trend/movement. The only overarching belief is a nihilism towards politics and other trivial shit that people argue over endlessly elsewhere. Its about our individual experiences, without making it about ourselves. I don't think there is are specific standards for doomers, as doomers are exceptions, but I agree that people who change themselves to follow a trend are not particularly impressive.
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No.18706
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No.18722
>>18401
yeah, you don't have to be a neet virgin to be a doomer….apathy/powerlessness and the futility of it all can be felt to the depths even by people who are living well.
i have a good life, by all accounts i've made it, some people would look at me think i have everything, but what is having everything worth when the world that what you have built is crumbling down around you and you see the world that you're very young children are going to have to fight to survive in, even if they have a chance to fight at all.//systematically on every level we are fucked.
>>18644
lol, get fucked with your age bullshit otherwise i'd agree with you. i do admit that you probably can't understand why someone who grew up in the 80's and 90's with actual synth music and rode the grunge/punk wave in seattle as a teenager is a doomer in 2019….
beyond that you're exceptionally right on all of it, you can't just declare something as a sub culture or see something you think is cool and adopt it, it's some a place you got to end up, a bunch of people end up in the same sort of places and that's what creates a subculture and i agree with you, i went through this same shit with grunge, as soon as it gets a label it get marketed and all of these faggots just start to show up and defeat the purpose of why the subculture originated in the first place.
i will say to the others though, that this shit is only like grunge in the sense of the general mood, like i said above, what we are facing now is much worse, much much worse, grunge was what is was because we were watching everyone be bought ans sold and we realized our insignificance in the cogs of all of this bullshit, this is the destruction of all things, the destruction of us, this is the end…..and don't get me wrong it's not like i am black pilled either, it's something like that but not actually that, i will fight, i will continue to live, i'll go to work and do what i'm meant to do, but it doesn't mean i don't see exactly how screwed up everything is.
yeah, yeah, i sound like a complete idiot and a faggot right now but I'm smoking a joint while my wife is make my dinner….while the world crumbles around us. hahahaha.
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No.18734
>>18722
>I'm smoking a joint while my wife is make my dinner….while the world crumbles around us. hahahaha.
You claim to not be black pilled but then you are giving up in your mind and contributing to society's demise? There will always be hope of some kind, man.
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No.18741
>>17945
Holy fuck this is so true. You forgot goth and scene though.
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No.18750
>>18644
>I'm friends with people online who i've always known were apsie betas, but ever since the doomer meme they're forcing themselves to become that. They try so hard to fit the mould. You can't just base your personality on a fucking meme.
Does this actually happen?
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No.18767
>>17861
>being a depressed faggot is culture
no, it's self-pity.
if i'm wrong, it shouldn't hurt.
if i'm right, it should hurt, then get the cue and stop indulging in self-pity.
you're welcome.
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No.18770
>>18767
>if i'm wrong, it shouldn't hurt.
>if i'm right, it should hurt
what if I am totally desensitized to pain and can't tell the difference.
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No.18772
>>18644
you know the saying an elite which calls itself elite is not elite or somewhat like this
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No.18780
>>18377
>Subculture always exist in retrospect, always harnessing back to an authenticity that is lost in the very act of harnessing back to authenticity.
this 100% couldnt agree more
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No.18784
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No.18785
>>18644
I don't like strict rules because they do not work, they never did. When it comes to this board, we are connected through some similar ideas, views, experiences, interests or opinions but we are bunch of different people from different countries. No matter if you pump your lungs with tar like me, no matter how are you dressed, how many girls your fucked (if any), what fucking music you like, etc. only this won't make you belonging here and we see it - people who are just sad and unsatisfied are not implicitly doomers and sooner or later they either leave or they get kicked out. So fine, let cattle have the fashion, music and whatnot, it's who they are what counts and you can't really fake that, it will eventually float to the surface. I don't like it but what can I do, if people want to irl cosplay memes because subcultures are dead and everything is the same so what can I do, but I don't want to talk to them here.
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No.18999
Looking forward to a meteor finally hitting this planet so that no life can be born again and suffer in this cruel existence. Life is a shallow hollow excuse, I would have killed my self ages ago If I was 100% sure there was no afterlife. No afterlife sounds really comfy.
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No.19034
>>18644
Kys. Am I allowed to say Kys here? Kys with all my heart you no-true scotsman faggot, you don't have a monopoly on nihilism.
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No.19080
It's good to have some doomer tendencies
Don't get carried away
Don't waste your youth on it
There will be a chance to fight for the planet and humanity
Soon, critical mass approaching
Let your sadness be your willingness to sacrifice everything
In the last Grand battler against tyrrany and despair
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No.19087
The worst thing for me is that I don't even get the satisfaction of watching the collapse. The collapse will be so slow and (((managed))) that the only thing that will happen when I get older is the world gets gayer and gayer, unless I move to East Asia or something.
God, I fucking hate America and Americans.
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No.19092
Please don't dress like goths though!
>>17868
like that it may be ok though
Japs have their own denominations of doomerism though
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No.19100
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No.19102
>>19080
>There will be a chance to fight for the planet and humanity
<fighting for anything but my own comfort and satisfaction
Get a load of THIS right-wing SJW, giez.
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No.19104
>>18734
i suck at communicating emotion, how does one describe the futility but the resolve/hope of a stoicism-ish view of the modern world?
how can one be like "what's the point really?" but also fight to succeed despite that?
i agree with you, as long as i draw air there will be a chance, it may be a very small chance and may ultimately be futile, but i've always been the type to not mind a suicide mission..not because i welcome death but rather because i've always been the type to run head long into adversity and have a sink or swim, live or die mentality when it comes to doing things.
i hope that makes some sort of sense, i can't quite put my finger on it and even if i could i probably couldn't put into words.
like i said before, it's not depression, i view that sort of thing for the weak, i am not weak, despite the state of the world i have a good life, i have done well for myself and i have no doubt that a lot of the people here who are actual doomers will eventually end up doing well for themselves, because you are not black pilled and because you are not a depressive pussy who just gives up, people who are like that tend to have some sort of success over a long enough timeline, even if it's like me, just being reasonably comfortable and raising a family…the "thing" that makes you feel the need for a long contemplative drive will most likely never leave you, it's just the level to which it's at play.
at least that is my hope for you guys, maybe i don't fit in here, i don't know, like the grunge thing when i was growing up, i found grunge because of the music, it just so happened my view of things aligned with the group at the time….less so when it became the mainstream marketed garbage that it ended up as…and why i never got into the emo bullshit as it just seemed like a corporate version of what grunge started out as, i mean i was following bands like sdre since the early 90's but when the whole emo thing kicked off it just seemed fake as shit….you guys seem legit even if this isn't the place for me.
as someone else said, i'll probably dip in and out of this group until i either figure out i don't fit or get told to fuck off, either is fine by me if that's what it is, i'm cool with people having their own shit that doesn't include me and i don't want to hang around with people who don't want me there…
that said though, i'm not going to let age be a barrier unless you guys are actually a bunch of 14 year olds because that's creepy. lol
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No.19106
>>19104
>maybe i don't fit in here
I'm not very depressed either. I just post here because this board is very comfy, and a lot of anons here share my taste in music, movies and literature.
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No.19247
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No.19264
>>18644
Reminder that you're not a doomer if
>You're over 30
I guess I'm out of here then…
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No.19265
>>19087
>God, I fucking hate America and Americans.
somewhat here but I think the hatred is too exaggerated. nobody really has any power here unless they're at least making a 100 grand. voting don't work, lobbying bs is at an all time high. you really can't hate those that have no power to really change things. and yeah I know we both live there. pragmatism always.
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No.20094
>>18057
>>18225
got me, I showed up today. first post in fact.
just been reading the catalog, but I identify with 95% of what I've read so far.
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No.20098
>>18663
>asian with huge tits
Some girls really have it all.
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No.20202
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No.20205
>>18741
Hipsters need to get out!
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No.20207
>>20205
We are here, We are queer, we aren't going anywhere!!
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No.22008
>>18644
Who said you make the rules?
>>18698
This
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No.22367
>>18377
>Imagine 20 years from now 17 year old girls complaining how doomer has been taken over by basic bitches who just don't get it, who don't even know what 8chan was, who are just into it to look edgy and get attention from boys.
Wow, that's depressing af, which is saying something given that I'm already here
>>18644
I havent seen a single normier talking about doomers. Even the subreddit is moribund af, more so than this board.
Also you're seeing those playlists because of yt algorithms, not because those are actually popular.
>they've just appropriated the lifestyle.
Maybe the aesthetic but who the fuck wants to live like a doomer? even looking like a doomer is not fashionable to normies
>You're over 30
Fuck off with this shit teanigger
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No.24753
>>18644
I think that you are bad and wish you misfortune
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No.24756
>>22008
>Who said you make the rules?
Ironic, coming from a burger.
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No.24772
>>24756
BO will love those korean beauties
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No.24778
I think of doomer more as a social political label that represents how I feel about myself and the world at large, not so much a trendy sub cultural thing with fashions and shit. I did not start using the word doomer until I saw it as a meme but when I saw it, it clicked immediately and I recognized it as who I am more so than all of the other labels and trends that I have grown up with.
Doomer to me isn't about being depressed all of the time or wearing all black, it's about viewing our world as hopelessly lost due to the failure of spirituality, the imminent collapse of post industrial world, escalating ecological crisis, untennable situations between nuclear powers, and the insidious nature behind pop culture and the pedophile mafia who dispense with it. One should want to watch it all burn. That doesn't mean I'm incapable of enjoying myself.
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No.24779
>>18644
you are really pathetic, conceited and so little self aware, picking some shallow rules to gatekeep your prefabricated notion of personality.
Absolute teenposting.
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No.24784
>>24772
Thanks, I just held solid 8 of a puke.
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No.24820
>>24778
Weel dayam mayan, y'alls got dis doomer shizz figgured aht. Webm unrelated.
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No.24860
>>24820
>flat earthers
silly girl
everybody knows the earth is hollow and the entrance is in north pole and exit is in south pole
the norvegian guy described it in detail in his book The Smoky Gods
and besides flat earth is just a meme to troll serious business normies
so is hollow earth tbh
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No.24954
>>24820
Who's this blue-haired qt?
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No.24984
I'd say so.
The spooks at /pol/ electing Trump made people depressed, for different reasons. One side sees the other as literally Hitler, one just wants to make edgy jokes about niggers and minorities without being censored. I'm the second one.
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