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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

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 No.57156

First of all, thank fuck /cyber/ is back. Damn I missed this board when it was gone.

Now, let's talk (and mindlarp) about a cyberpunk city state and how it could possibly be implemented. I'm looking at places like HK, Singapore etc. and going "woah, let's have more of that in the world, except better". This is something we should strive for in the 20's. A place to inspire and lead humanity into the future. A place people can point too and go 'Woah, the future is looking schway as shit' and encourage brainiacs to pursue STEM more because they want to move to this amazing city state and conduct research and feel like they're in the future. I think now more than ever, a cyberpunk city state is needed.

Say what you want about people like Elon Musk but you can't deny the inspiration he gives people (space travel, future tech shit). Now imagine a city filled with scientists, futuristic tech development actively encouraged, cyberpunk aesthetic in architecture everywhere (yes, aesthetic matters). The right kind of people would want to move to this city state in droves.

First of all, location. East Asia seems like the best option. The area of the world is already notorious for being a hive of cyberpunk cities. High IQ populations close by, in a safe part of the world shielded from the societal chaos unfolding in the west. A country willing to sell a chunk of land approx 1,000 km² (HK size) is all that's needed and then development can begin.

Extremely low taxation, no capital gains, sales tax, Minimum wage laws wouldn't exist etc. (to encourage workers and massive investment) and basically a Minarchist government that only enforces the law, courts, immigration etc (not lawless but the government isn't meddling and ruining everything with regulation)

Immigration would be strictly enforced with extreme measures to get in. Nothing like the west currently is. Keeping societal cohesion healthy would be important.

Drugs. I'm no expert but things like microdosing lsd for creativity, focus would be legal.

Architecture must be cyberpunk/ futuristic themed, both the exterior and interior of buildings, lab facilities. People underestimate just how important building architecture is to inspire people.

There would likely be extreme wealth inequality as a result, with mega corps moving in. Extreme capitalism basically but with the schway cutting edge advances of high tech. A nation of tinkerers. A nation dedicated to inspiring researchers, engineers, scientists etc. but also schway as fuck. I think we would witness an explosion in tech development/advances.

Feel free to add your ideas of how this society would work.

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 No.57157

Singapore is a boring corporatist surveillance state. Everyone is extremely conformist there. People move there not because they are scientists, but because local middle class needs army of illiterate service workers from surrounding Malaysian villages. There is an article written by Gibson in 1995, and a documentary filmed around that time telling all you need to know about so-called city-states.

>Extremely low taxation

Do you know where Hong Kong government gets their brouzouf from? They lease land to corporations. There are no taxes, except the added cost of lease on every product you buy.

Le epic cyberpunk architecture you talk about is a mish-mash of art deco and postmodernist concept arts, it's not real, and doesn't really inspire anyone.

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 No.57159

>>57157

I was more referring to that Singapore, HK are usually brought up as places that are often mentioned as having cyberpunk look to them (and they are city states). The hypothetical cyberpunk city state would be more geared to tech development.

> Architecture doesn't inspire anyone

What? Care to add anything positive? I know it's easy to point out the flaws in something but, unless you're completely opposed to a hypothetical cyberpunk city state, why not contribute something.

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 No.57165

I see state entities growing and becoming more powerful in conjunction with corporations, kinda the opposite of what you're looking for.

If an already massive city broke off then that's another matter.

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 No.57169

dont rely want to burst your bubble OP but we are already headed towards cyberpunk cities. By most official studies, the world will be cyberpunk around 2035-2045 because of a number of factors. I am not going to break them down tonight, but maybe tomorrow or the next day, but the tl:dr is that most large urban areas will become megacities, while rural areas will become heavily automated (as they already are) while also becoming destroyed by environmental changes.

Cities will be broken into their command and control structure, resource use, and reliance on technology to conduct day to day activities.

The cyberpunk ones are where cities will be run by cartels/gangs due to lack of police/para military forces, while the alternative is a police state where massive resources are put in place to create order (think like mirrors edge).

Other cities destroyed by natural disasters and overpopulation will have a mad max type structure, where scavenging and lawlessness will prevail.

Not sure if this works with your larp or not, I am not at my main computer today, so I cannot post references now.

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 No.57194

>>57165

Yeh probably likely. Minarchism would probably only be temporary as the state rarely chooses to limit or reverse its power. Neocameralism, for-profit sovereign corporations owning the city state might make more sense. Perhaps thats what a cyberpunk city state would best operate under.

Songdo, a work in progress in S.Korea, could have the makings of a cyberpunk city. Unfortunately it doesn't have the appearance of one yet. It's part of S.Korea but is just a huge 'smart city' built by private investors.

>>57169

Yeh post links if you check this. Megacities seem to be the future I agree, that's where the concentration of wealth tends to accumulate and when land is scarce, new buildings tend to go vertical like in HK. Perhaps the next economic crash will drive this even more, even further concentration of wealth and power into megacorps and big gov.

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 No.57195

>>57194

>Economic crash

Should I start panicking and invest into tangible goods like gold or silver?

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 No.57204

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Megacities Urban Future, the Emerging Complexity, Pentagon Video

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 No.57205

>>57159

HK is schway but it's a shithole. Why would I want to pay over half my income to live in a cramped cage, packed in like a sardine? it's even worse than San Francisco.

I would love to live in a huge city because it would be schway but the reality is that it's just going to be a shithole and you're going to live like a bugman right smack in the center of a huge surveillance system.

>>57156

architecture-wise I like just standard late 20th century skyscraper design. glass, steel, and concrete boxes.

I really hate that new glass dildo looking building in San Francisco. what an ugly sight to behold. Personally some of my favorite skyscrapers were the World Trade Towers, very simple but also elegant IMO. The Sears tower and Hancock tower in Chicago, too. I also appreciate the Empire State building but that probably has to do more with it's history than it's looks. The Transam pyramid in SF, the Aon Tower and USBank building in LA. Oh, the Citi tower in NYC is neat,too. I guess I have boring taste.

I think HK looks schway due to the density but taken individually the buildings to me are uninspiring.

Also, at risk of sounding like an autist, I really love some of the cities presented in the Halo video games. In the ODST game, the city of New Mombasa is captivating with huge skyscrapers and most importantly interesting public features. I'm talking about lots of elevated walkways, concourses, etc.

The same goes for the city of New Alexandria in Halo Reach. Tall towers with an abundance of helipads, raised monorails and walkways.

I really like the idea of multiple strata in a city. I can imagine a city in which raised walkways and roads are situated above the actual ground level, so not only do you have the street level but you have, higher up, more public space and options for mass transit above ground.

In Chicago lots of buildings have underground access to the public. You can go underground where there are shops, restaurants, offices, etc. and keep walking. different buildings will connect to the same underground areas. Different levels is very interesting to me.

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 No.57214

>>57205

>raised walkways

Absolutely. I was surprised at how much this added to the cyberpunk feel of a city. Especially when they are added to the sides of buildings and people can effectively walk across the city. I saw it on some city simulation and couldn't believe how much it added. I guess maybe because the upper elite classes are more likely to be above the city lower dwellers or something.

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