No.57130
I am not asking how to be 1337 h4x0r either, do not get me wrong.
I have been browsing the internet and imageboards/forums for 10 years but I never went to college for programming or anything so I would not even know how to open up my own forum.
Are there real forums and YouTube-type places on TOR or Zeronet or something? I used TOR when it first started but it was boring and slow.
I want to get away from the hoi polloi, and as far as I am concerned we already live in the dystopian future and there is no sense in LARPing with Cyberpunk 2077 shit, and take refuge.
I am also not a nazi or a pedophile so I do not really care for alt-right shit or sea pea. I am going to download Freenet and look around, I have already been on zeronet and it was boring and full of foreign people.
Unrelated, but I also love quintessential cyberpunk rivethead industrial music and I find it ironic people here and on lainchan never discuss it. I actually find the le cyberp0nx synthwave shit nauseatingly bad…
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No.57154
>>57130
You seem 水.
When in doubt, read.
Entering communities is a great step, also.
The best thing I did during 5 months was to isolate myself and from there I read all I wanted, wrote programs, reverse engineered my own programs, and so on… For a few weeks it seemed I was missing out on something but when I came back everything was the same.
If you don't want to be that extreme focus on yourself and develop your skills to survive in the current dystopic world.
Download the content from wikipedia, textfiles.com, courses from yt, et cetera…
Build yourself a great stock of content, consume that content and help distribute that content. Just, please, stay away from people that buy into the `le CyberPUNK 2077!' soykaf. And stay out of trouble.
Thank you, have a great 2020.
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No.57158
>>57130
>Are there real forums and YouTube-type places on TOR or Zeronet or something? I used TOR when it first started but it was boring and slow.
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>I want to get away from the hoi polloi,
>Unrelated, but I also love quintessential cyberpunk rivethead industrial music and I find it ironic people here and on lainchan never discuss it. I actually find the le cyberp0nx synthwave shit nauseatingly bad…
Good news. There are plenty of anarchists chatting on the darkweb.
Bad news. They all love synthwave.
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No.57174
>>57130
>57130
I also don't know what to discover 水. A lot of free speech heavens turn out to be full of mentally ill or extremists than people to have interesting conversations with.
I think part of the problem with the mentality is that people want to *discover* something , rather than contribute or create something. It seems to me that if we want a cypherpunk haven , we are going to have to build it cooperatively.
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No.57182
>>57154
That is too much, one of my biggest regrets in life was not learning programming at 13 years old and becoming leet haxor. I did used to browse textfiles all the time, though, it was fun stuff to read.
>>57158
the bait meme is incredibly passe and unfunny, you may have as well posted U MAd? or ISYGDDT or something equally annoying. regardless, synthwave is awful, awful meme music especially the stuff that mixes it with house music.
>>57174
I have already tried learning basic networking/programming to run my own forum but to no avail, I feel as if I learn enough to basically copy-paste a forum and keep it running I wouldnt be able to defend it against hackers or do any real maintenance and it would become a shithole like Lookism.net
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No.57183
>>57182
>I feel as if I learn enough to basically copy-paste a forum
I think the technical infrastructure exists already. We just need to produce compelling content that motivate people to enter these kind of havens , read , and contribute. For me, that is a bunch a textfiles and tutorials surround my interest. I wrote some tutorials for G2 before it died and on assembly. Perhaps some 水水水 tutorials with forced cyberslang and * A S T H E T I C * by enough people can build a community.
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No.57184
>>57182
>imagine getting trigged by maymays
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No.57185
>Unrelated, but I also love quintessential cyberpunk rivethead industrial music
Recommend some tunes OP! I dig industrial.
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No.57186
>>57130
While your jacked in to these hidden services check out this *comfy* forum :
http://torigonsn3d63cldhr76mkfdzo3tndnl2tftiek55i2vilscufer6ryd.onion/index.php
Of course, only problem with forums are persistent identity.
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No.57192
>>57186
>random onion url
>only description of site is *comfy*
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No.57193
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No.57199
>>57192
You can ignore it. It's just yet another Script-Kiddie forum trying to be a 1337-h4xx0r Darknet-Board with ~50 posts total and 90% of them drama about another Board, the rest about literal basics of basics.
Literally no one fucking cares.
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No.57200
>>57193
>using Windows
Holy fuck, gtfo. Seriously.
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No.57201
>>57183
>>57186
Yeah, as much as I wish I was a K-rad k00l d00d cracker I am a luzer by every meaning of the word, I still use windows 7 and torrents/proxys/TOR and the fact that I have spent 80% of my free time in front of a computer and on chans/forums for about 12 years is my only claim to fame.
>>57185
I really like industrial dance music, to the extent that I have been learning FL Studio so that I could make my own, but since it is a dead scene outside of Germany/Sweden and Latin America, its demoralizing to think about taking it seriously.
Blog aside, I know a bit (by no means am I someone who actually goes to one of the handful of "goth" clubs that still exist to hear Industrial Dance music and dance in a pvc fetish suit, I wish I was though) about "Industrial" (what people nowadays refer to as "Post-Industrial" because "Throbbing Gristle/SPK is teh b3st thing evaar!" for RYM elitists, and also because of the negative "cringey white people" stereotypes associated with now-dead-and-forgotten alternative industrial/goth/emo cultures in the U.S.)
I really am blogging excessively, what I was trying to say is that there are various industrial dance subgenres that is all "Industrial" at the end of the day and it really depends on what you like. The genre is 40 years old and varied, I guess starting with Der Mussolini, and industrial is a really a subjective music genre unlike something like Metal where all the lines between genres are clear cut because theyre all derivative, I could name 10 bands easy that are all industrial dance bands that sound nothing alike. Sorry for blog.
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No.57202
>>57200
kek, cope nigger.
>>57201
>I have been learning FL Studio so that I could make my own, but since it is a dead scene..
Do it, anon! Having a creative outlet is 水, plus if you upload your stuff to the net (SoundCloud, mixcloud, etc) national boundaries don't mean shit. Either way you can still do it for yourself.
I still go to goth clubs once in a while, it's actually what really got me into the industrial/ebm/aggrotech scene like 10 years ago.
I'll check out Der Mussolini, haven't heard that tune yet. Off the top of my head I guess I listen to a lot of mainstream industrial goth/dance groups: Suicide Commando, Wumpscut, mind.in.a.box, Incubite, Funker Vogt, Tactical Sekt, hell even And One, Neuroticfish and Faderhead.
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No.57203
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No.57287
>>57185
not OP but I too am a fan of the Industrial sound!
Bands I recommend incl good first listens:
>Nine Inch Nails - Head like a Hole
>Ministry - The Missing
>1000 Homo DJ's - Supernaut
>Sister Machine Gun - Sins of the Flesh
>Gravity Kills - Goodbye
>Filter - hey man nice shot
>Stabbing Westward - Ungod
>KMFDM - professional killer
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No.57288
>I actually find the le cyberp0nx synthwave shit nauseatingly bad
I think synthwave is fine if I just want to listen to some soothing shit in the background but I'd take industrial over it anytime, yeah. My favorite stuff is 90s demoscene music, I got a huge library consisting mostly of old electronic rock and ambient electronic shit.
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No.57405
>>57288
Could you share your library?
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No.57409
>>57130
This is the kind of question I don't answer through communication methods that persist because as soon as someone lame finds it, they'll share the information for imaginary internet points and the influx of noobs may ruin the place I mentioned. Go ask in IRC and you'll likely get more specific responses.
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No.57410
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No.57414
>>57174
The things people don't want to build anything, just enjoy it. These communities are either for sharing things, and you already have open source community for that. For exploits etc. there's a market place, nobody's sharing anything valuable for free unless they're publicly disclosing it.
For sharing copyrighted shit you either become another pirate bay where you drown in noise, or worse, people will fill your niche domain with their politics, use it as temp drop for their cp or whatnot.
Or you have a blog where you share your thoughts and you're nothing but a loner sharing your insight, screaming into void, and hopefully accumulate followers. The problem is nobody's going to organize in this setting.
You need a chat, and chats are filled with off-topic, disgusting people, people you agree with, spammers hoping to beat the odds.
Ultimately you'd build the future for the community but open source won't do because unless it benefits others, it will drown in the noise.
So you stop building for the community, you grab a bunch of peers and start a business that's either shady in the sense it empowers governments, or you build one that empowers already powerful individuals. That way you make brouzouf. You either abide by the questionable laws ("how is this legal"), or you break the law ("how do I sleep at night").
And when brouzouf rolls in you hope you're not screwed by your peers, competitors or by the laws.
You want to change the world to fit your worldview, and the only way you see forward when you drop aesthetics of cyberpunk is to join the normal society and work as a team, gain power, and become the what you swore to destroy.
Lul.
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No.57559
>>57199
not OP, but i am a total beginner and basics of basics is what i need right now xD
any recommendations for where to go next mr. tr00 1337?
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No.58011
Just wanted to resurrect this thread as it was an interesting convo that I stumbled upon while drunk lol
Also >>57410
thanks so much for this. Diehard Demoscene fanboy here.
OP, I admire your curiosity as I was right there with you years back based on everything you said. Lurking between 4ch/8kun/LameChan and various other chan sites were a huge help and allowed me to learn so much about OPsec, hardware, malware, current affairs, etc.. Definitely lurk, read, find new communities, find IRC channels, learn Linux, learn OPSec, lurk Reddit (I know I don't like it either) especially their sysadmin/deepweb/linux based subreddits, learn about Anonymous and their entire era between 2008 and 2014 (most active years) and never stop discovering new Industrial :)
Meetups are always awesome too between hackerspaces and drive parties but obv prob not an option these days due to the pandemic.
Best advice I can give.
Also I happen to like SOME Synth/Vapor/Retrowave haha but if you want some other genres never forget keygen and chiptune.
Let's keep this convo going for others that are equally curious!
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No.58013
>>58011
ALSO to add to that…there are a TON of free resources online including ebooks and Youtube tutorials on various tech aspects you could always learn about. Don't worry about being an expert, the basics will get you competent :)
But look for topics on networking, home network security, basic computer science, coding in various languages from Assembly to Python, Raspberry Pi and other microcontroller projects, protecting yourself from hackers/ISP/government/social engineering, and things of that nature. Don't go crazy with the entertainment industry's take on any of the above topics (minus Mr. Robot, prob the most realistic show on the subject minus the trippy shit) but there are a few good documentaries on YT related to "hacking" and cybersec and everything mentioned above!
Hope this was all helpful :)
Anyone else, feel free to contribute some resources!!
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No.58017
>>57199
idk chummer, Darknet Cybersecurity forums are pretty 水. Torigon has a pretty dope library.
There is always lots of talk about surveillance, and raw connections that all goes away with Hidden Services. 8CH and ISP can't spy on you. 8CH is derezzed due to not bieng a hidden service - imagine if 8ch was a 水 hidden service to begin with? My take alice.
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No.58020
Realize that the entire sophon network can drain to nothing, OP.
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No.58068
>>57414
…dark… …but not untrue…
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No.58071
>>57414
Its and interesting take. One that perhaps pairs well with the routinization of cybercrime. ( https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/05/career-choice-tip-cybercrime-is-mostly-boring/ )
Having people learn 2 systeadmin to host on Darknet is interesting idea , but as the article points out, not as glamorous as it sounds. Most sysadmins will probably just work for amazon.
But which is more cyberpunk?
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No.58122
>>57130
from ya cryin' can be seen that ya can't get anywhere
why WE would wan' ya with us?
what ya have to offer?
go back to /r/dit
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No.58172
>>58122
jeez some people on this board are so cringe
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No.58240
You're not going to find many good quality forums on TOR or Zeronet. You gotta remember those are the places that everyone goes to first so they are full of skids, larpers, and newbies. Identify something you want to pursue in cyber security and find a forum for it on the surface web. Then just learn and make connections. Identify people you can rely on and treat them well.
For example if you want to run a website start learning now. It doesn't matter if you're shit at it now and your website gets hacked 200 times. You will learn to secure it better each time you're hacked until you have a quality forum(you might even learn a bit about how to hack into sites). Maybe even ask others to pentest for ranks on the forum.
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No.58266
>>57130
>I am also not a nazi
stopped reading here
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