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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

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 No.52498

I have lurked and admired this place for quite awhile; this site has been one of my favorite places on the internet for awhile now.

I am the author of an article called "Cyberpunk is key to our survival" that I just released today.

I would be interested in any input this community has on my article, as I am in the midst of establishing multiple resources for different communities/toward uniting differrent communities (hacker/InfoSec/Cyberpunk enthusiasts, etc.) under a set of ideas/media/resources I have named/branded OuterHeaven.

I believe that this world is facing challenges that necessitate a united front to meet/overcome.

I believe Cyberpunk (including my ideas for OuterHeaven) is a satisfactory means of uniting and rallying the types of minds we will need to overcome these problems.

Thank you everyone. I realize your attention (even if that attention becomes trolling/scorn) is no small thing to ask for.

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 No.52499

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 No.52500

The whole thing is bizzare. You live in a world where everyone is a cyberpunk because they arn't a corperation. Where anyone is capable of learning advance programming and STEM, and that there will be enough of these jobs to go around. Right now. more Ph'd graduate than there are jobs for Ph'ds. They average person is incapable of becoming a programmer or understanding virtually anything. analytic. You also strangely assert anyone can get a technical job with virtually zero credentials which is absolute garbage - try it.

Your solution to the useless of the average person is that they all become elite tech repair people / hackers. This wouldn't create a sustainable economy, since supply and demand is a thing. Computer repair people don't buy computer services. The technology sector can only support so many people. The reality is some vast majority of people will not have above automatable levels of skill.

You have out right wrong ideas about technology. E-waste is unmixed garbage, mostly broken, worthless, and an environment hazard. Its not tons of working windows XP computers, well packed, sorted, and ready to go. There are E-Waste collection companies that pay people to sort through tech, grab whats salvageable, and whats sent to 3rd world isn't as useful as you think. For one, you can't repair it. Virtually all technology is built on integrated circuits. If an integrated circuit is broken , outside of a surface mount component, its done. Parts are unavailable, undocumented. If reverse engineering and fabrication ever became cheap an decentralized, people wouldn't fab new reverse engineered IC's for this stuff, they would fab new computers. Furthermore, the third world has better computers than whats coming in as waste. The government of a third world country isn't seeking tech from e-waste. Even it was sorted / repairable / working , cipher difficulty scales up rapidly, and using a cluster of e-waste to crack passwords is useless and would wreck your energy sector. And whoose passwords are you cracking anyway ?

You have a weird 3rd world rising up from the junk of the west fantasy. Metasploit isn't as effective as you think. Exploit kits are rarely used to spread malware now, because client side security has improved. Also Firewalls exist. If some country was causing real economic harm , there traffic would simply be filtered, or outright cutoff. There is no world where a third world country builds an economy out of cybercrime.

Also, if everyone is a cyberpunk hacker in the future, whose getting hacked?

Its clear need to learn a little bit more about technology because despite claiming to be a professional pen-tester you think:

> When in possession of physical computers you must 'crack the password' to have a usable computer.

> Decades old E-Waste is a useful for cracking modern passwords (because crypto doesn't scale up)

> You think anyone can get a job without skill or qualifications in tech

> You think anyone/everyone can learn computer security / computer programming / Economically Useful levels of Science / Math

Its also clear your a high schooler because you think

> The world can have a functioning economy of elite computer hackers

> The Third world can use e-waste to harm developed nations who cannot possibly respond (despite being full of computer hackers)

Keep writing, Keep learning. But virtually nothing you wrote makes sense. When I first found out about zines and articles I pretty much did the same as a teenager. I was so excited after reading a few articles, I wanted to 'teach' everyone too. Writing help refine your thoughts Keep thinking.

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 No.52501

Also, same guy, just adding.

>I would be interested in any input this community has on my article, as I am in the midst of establishing multiple resources for different communities/toward uniting differrent communities (hacker/InfoSec/Cyberpunk enthusiasts, etc.) under a set of ideas/media/resources I have named/branded OuterHeaven.

Unify the hacker/cyberpunk community… On Medium ? A Centralized Subscription service?

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 No.52505

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I definitely appreciate your criticism.

I am going to reply to each paragraph by referencing it by the first few words.

> You live in a world where everyone is a cyberpunk

No. That wasn't what I was getting at. I was more stating that people have more in common with some themes of Cyberpunk.

Also, I am a Senior Red Teamer/Penetration Tester who did enter InfoSec with a GED and some bug hunting experience…I am completely self taught.

>Your solution to the useless average person

I was only stating that with automation and other trends that will effect the workplace, vocational training/education toward technology based vocations (or biotech) is the best way to go…I am concerned that governments do not seem to be addressing what is around the corner (which is not a surprise and is a trend in of itself).

> E-waste is unmixed garbage

"Electronic waste or e-waste may be defined as discarded computers, office electronic equipment, entertainment device electronics, mobile phones, television sets, and refrigerators" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_waste

I have been researching the e-waste thing for awhile now.Throughout the documentary you will see electronics of all types in one piece.

From 30:19 to 35:25 you will see a large shipping container full of very salvageable electronics.

At 34:26 you will see the image attached to this post as an example of what I mean; the dealers explain how many electronics arrive in functional/salvageable condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IPqgy2K8RI

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 No.52506

> You are a high schooler and no virtually nothing

While I agree with the keep learning sentiment, I am not in high school. I have had some of my papers on InfoSec/Penetration Testing/Red Teaming go viral online and be shared by the likes of Weld Pond and The Grugq and referenced by the CIO of Seton Hall University.

> Using a subscription based platform

No, I am not trying to use Medium for this. It is a platform that I can store my work in for now while I get the other infrastructure together.

Also, the story in question is not behind a paywall.

Finally, I am not trying to unite anyone group.

I am interested in getting different mindsets/minds together from many different types of communities that I believe compliment eachother and bring something to the table.

Its more about making the interactions and data sharing between the groups available as to fertilize/germinate solutions and generate resources that may seed those solutions.

I really appreciate you taking the time to read my work!!!

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 No.52507

Also, I did make changes/edits to address issues with clarity where the article, my composition and/or expressing of ideas were concerned.

So thank you again for your input!

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 No.52513

>>52498

You sound severely autistic. Thanks for shitting up the board with your self-advertising. You remind me of that retard on Megachan who tried to get everyone to read his stupid blog.

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 No.52515

>>52513

As I stated, my work generally already reaches a considerable audience.

I have been coming to this site for a couple of years and do not think I have ever posted my other work here.

I state this because I did not post my work here for recognition.

I posted it here because there are few places on the Internet with a dedicated population interested in Cyberpunk, and I value the opinions of this community and was hoping a productive dialogue would result.

I think minds with interests in the subjects/themes that comprise Cyberpunk could have some perspective on real world problems I interested in.

Also, I do not believe I have ever been to Megachan (or knew it existed before now) and have not been diagnosed as autistic.

I am working to try and find solutions to issues; I do not blame you for being skeptical, but it is the truth.

Think tanks are regularly employed in a similar manner.

No worries though. I have compiled thousands of links to related subjects/documents/resources/pages related to these topics..

When the hidden service is up I will post the link here; hopefully the ideas I seek will occur more organically that way.

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 No.52516

>>52505

>I was more stating that people have more in common with some themes of Cyberpunk.

I'd say that reality has become more cyberpunk rather than everyone one the planet is a cyberpunk. Your examples were particularly egregious: Taxes have literally been around for at least 2,000 years, and predate virtually everything except agriculture. Amish paying taxes isn't high tech. Indigenous tribes acting territorial isn't failing to escape tech, its human behavior as old as time. My thought is that cyberpunks are supposed to be more technologically equipt and on the outskirt of societal norms involving technology than their peers. You see this Necromancer with Panther Moderns under going cosmetic body modification to look grotesque intentionally to signal themselves as outsiders. Its punk. I think a core feature is rejection of societal values, and by definition the majority of people cannot do that.

>I am concerned that governments do not seem to be addressing what is around the corner (which is not a surprise and is a trend in of itself).

The trend your talking about is not far from clear. Personally, I believe its extremely likely that automation within my lifetime will kill jobs in masse. But this perspective is something people have been saying since the 1920s. And as new technology has emerged, new jobs have emerged with it. Generally, people whoose jobs are automated away are not able to be retrained, but a new generation takes ups new jobs. Many economists argue that technology advance actually creates as many jobs as it displaces.

But, your idea that a sizable amount of people will be able to transition to STEM jobs is non-nonsensical. Already their not enough hard science jobs to match the number of people graduating with hard science degrees. And most people are not even remotely capable of the kind of analytic thought required for a B.S degree in a hard science, and beyond that, a B.S. in hard science isn't actually enough knowledge ot be economically useful. Its such a meme. Know one will pay you to solve the limited differential equations you can solve when CAS systems exist.

Furthermore, even if everyone could learn computer repair / security / programming (as compared to hard science degrees) , something I think is incredibly unlikely, you cannot have a functioning economy with only a IT sector. Its not a viable solution.

Also, do you know how to program ? Have you ever tried to teach people? Its simply impossible for many people.

>"Electronic waste or e-waste may be defined as discarded computers, office electronic equipment, entertainment device electronics, mobile phones, television sets, and refrigerators" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_waste

I used to own a small PC repair shop. Most e-waste that comes in is absolute garbage. Occasionally we would source gems (~3 year old laptop , etc.) and we would refurbish and sell. Anything worth keeping we kept. We passed the rest, along with all the broken parts from computers we repaired to the next step in the chain, a company that picked up e-waste for free, hoping to sort, find what they could and scrap the rest. I garentee you, by the time it makes it to a 3rd world country, there is nothing there. Minor amounts of metal surrounded by tons of plastic. In technology to old to be useful even if it was working.

I also garentee you that you cannot fix modern electronics the way you think you can. Virtually everything is integrated circuits. Virtually everything is undocumented, schematics and spare parts do not exist. The chance that anyone will repair e-waste in a 3rd world country is minute. I hear that children pick through it looking for capacitors, which are scraped. Its a humanitarian tradedgy, but repair isn't possible the way you think.

>Throughout the documentary you will see electronics of all types in one piece.

You are seeing consumer electronics like old telephones, toasters, etc. You are seeing everything every e-waste company in the chain thought was too labour intensive to scrap. Its largely unrepairable, and valueless antiquated garbage. Remember how it got there.

>full of very salvageable electronics.

How do you know? So far you haven't seemed to understand how technology works. You believed a variety of untruths I pointed out in my first post.

> Must crack password to have usable machine if you have physical possession of laptop

> Computers decades old can be used to crack modern passwords.

etc.

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 No.52517

>>52505

Its hard for me to understand how you can be a professional pentester. Your basic understanding of things like password complexity, computing power, and even what electronics are seems widely deficit.

It seems clear you have never repaired a computer a day in your life. Perhaps pentesting is specialized knowledge. But you seemed to vastly overestimate the power of tools like metasploit, and what kind of requirements exist to get a job in IT.

There are plenty of hostile people here, and I think you should ignore them. I am happy to discuss your crazy ideas with you, but they are crazy. 1/3 of your essay was about the third world rising up using metasploit and e-waste. I suppose there is a kernel of truth to that - not that the 3rd world could reorder global geopolitics successfully on a massive scale through e-waste and metasploit, but that "cyberware" is a cheap way to project power globally, and so countries deficient in hard power like North Korea, Iran, Israel have definitely explored it.

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