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I like playing out this idea in my head of starting a cyberpunk bar. I got no brouzouf to do it with, but I like to dream.
What would a modern day cyberpunk-bar look like? What kind of name would it have? What drinks would it serve?
I figured it would probably have the local cheaper beer on tap, as well as something like Asahi (or a themed house beer), with cyberpunk themed cocktails and cheaper food to eat (everything from instant noodles to bar pizza).
As for the name, ideas like the "Capsule Bar" or "Neo-Tokyo" are the first things that come to mind.
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No.52747
>>52746
Fuck of to >>>/leftypol/ communist faggot. Cyberpunk has nothing to do with your leftist trash.
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No.52748
>>52747
>literally a subculture based upon resistance against capitalism
where do you think you are
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No.52756
>>52748
Wait, WHAT?
I'm not even that anon, but since when is cyberpunk (high-tech, low-life) equal to communism? It's a dystopian sci-fi genre, your LARPing on this board doesn't turn you into a glorious revolutionary.
What do you do in your free time? Beat cops with Neuromancer books? Play a pirated version of Deus Ex pretending you're subverting the system?
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No.52757
>>52756
Have you even read Neuromancer or Snow Crash?
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No.52759
>>52757
Yes. It is good science FICTION indeed.
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No.52760
>>52757
Gibson might be a cuck (literally - the first time he met his wife, she was in bed with another man) but there's nothing communist about Neuromancer. At it's core its a noir heist thriller.
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No.52761
>>52748
>leftist turns everything into wet self-centered shit
Like pottery.
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No.52767
I remember a time when imageboard culture treated bootlickers as the pieces of shit they are, fucking with cunts like Hal Turner, but now anon has become a bunch of bootlickers themselves. No matter which board you go, you'll encounter weak wristed fascist apologists who blame the world for their problems and dream about having big daddy to make decisions for them, taking care of the spooky spooks that impede their days. How repulsive.
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No.52768
>>52767
< and dream about having big daddy to make decisions for them
> he said after advocating for world government a couple of posts earlier
Seek help.
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No.52774
>>52767
>"ha ha you dumb fascists are all bootlickers"
>meanwhile the left, on a global scale, is nothing more than the political tool of hyperwealthy oligarchs and multinational corporations seeking to throw open borders and destroy localized cultures for profit
Can we get back to discussing cyberpunk things instead of just having you shit up the board with your naive opinions?
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No.52779
>>52767
Back you go faggot.
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No.52781
>>52768
>>52774
>>52779
All these anally violated bootlickas :-D
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No.52783
>>52781
Commies can't live without thinking about cocks, eh?
leftypol_BO.jpg
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No.52784
>>52783
huhu, not one time did I ever even mention communism or anything of the sort, yet robots can't think in any other terms so require strawmen to function
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No.52787
>>52784
he says, as he implies criticism of gommunisn equals endorsement of fascism
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No.52793
>>52783
You're the first one to mention cocks, anon.
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No.52800
The cocktail umbrellas should have little Tron lines on them.
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No.52809
Less /pol/shit, more cyberpunk bar ideas.
Found an empty place nearby. Used to be an internet café, went bankrupt or something.
Barred windows, old and neglected building. Might be cool.
Only problem is it's in the outskirts of my hometown and holy shit there's just no way I'll get enough customers.
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No.52838
>>52748
Gee, who do you think is going to make technology? CAPITALISTS, THAT'S WHO. Who's going to make it cheaper and more readily available? CAPITALISTS, THAT'S WHO. Cyberpunk is very much PRO capitalism. It is however very often anti-corporate, depicting corporations as inherently evil.
There's a big fucking difference between capitalism and corporatism. One is a system of economics, and the other is a system of governance.
And this is why leftists are fucking idiots. You dumb fucks can't tell the difference.
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No.52869
Are you going to have sports betting.
Gaming tables.
Is it for corporations
Or
For cyber punks
How are you going to get that many cyber pucks in that location wear you are physically ?
Once your in the system
They will send inspectors and undercover law enforcement.
Nothing is safe anymore
They purged everyone
Made examples of them
You don’t have to do illegal things.
You just have to offer privacy and can be jailed.
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No.52870
>>52809
The Silk Road has that idea.
Many programmers found work but also there was the drug side
I’m not shore if he was selling the drugs or just offered a private place to go.
Crazy
How making programs for nothing related could get you arrested just by being on a web site.
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No.52876
>>52869
You wont get arrested for offering people secure meeting space, so long as you ensure nothing objectively illegal is going on on the premises. Sports betting and shit? Leave that faggotry to sports bars. I'd occasionally host hackathons and shit like that at a cyberpunk bar, but I would want the focus to be on building a community of people interested in cyberpunk, fostering a place to talk about transhumanism, futurism, and technology, and a music venue. So long as I can turn a regular profit after paying rent, I'm glad to do whatever. Would likely hold gaming matches as well.
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No.52884
>>52838
>Gee, who do you think is going to make technology? CAPITALISTS, THAT'S WHO.
Governments make most advances in technology. A basic example would be your iShit phone whose technology is mostly US military in origin. The private sector rarely makes significant advances and leeches off state efforts.
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No.52968
>>52809
>Used to be an internet café, went bankrupt or something.
A cyberpunk bar would essentially be a hyper-aesthetic internet cafe with alcohol. If the previous cafe couldn't survive, I doubt the added benefit of overpriced beer or imported sake would save yours.
To your point about customers - something like this would never work outside of a big college town or major city, and you'd have to make damn sure your location works.
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No.52970
>>52809
don't need as many customers if you're not paying rent. *wink*wink*
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No.52972
>>52968
I'm very aware of that. For now, I'm working on getting my CS degree and some job experience.
It'll not only allow me to get some savings (and therefor maybe even take the risk), but also a fallback solution in case it doesn't work out.
Whatever it'll be.
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No.53005
>>50787
>not calling it Chatsubo
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No.53058
>>52478
your dead whore mother < japan
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No.53082
>>52884
no, private companies make that stuff. they simply receive FUNDING from the government in many cases. capitalism is the driving force of progress.
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No.53083
>>51266 and
>>51211 here.
I'm in the middle of building a close-ish approximation to what I have in mind using the sims 3. will post screenshots if there is interest.
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No.53335
Is the cyberpunk bar open ?
I need a drink.
Doomie doesn’t like any of my threads.
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No.53339
>>53335
Yes, come in, I'll pour you a drink. Who is this doomie faggot? Does he suck cocks? I think he does on the reg.
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No.53340
>>53335
Take my advice and start drinking heavily.
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No.54569
After reading through this thread and having been interested in the idea of making a "Cyberpunk-esque" bar, I have come up with three different ideas. They range from being full on aesthetic, to as genuine as possible. For the record, I live and work in Tokyo so that's where I would open the bar (and you could argue it's one of the most cyberpunk cities at least in terms of the vibe. Hong Kong would also be a good location).
Cyberpunk Experience Restaurant/Bar
>"hidden" location
>people make a reservation online at least a week beforehand
>a USB is sent to them with a small "hacking" puzzle which once solved, provides the bar's location and password to enter
>bar entrance is a black door with a keypad outside, password is used to open the door
>inside a bouncer double checks their reservation
>guests now go through an escape-room, working together to hack a mainframe (this is just a stop gap idea and will likely change)
>after the allotted time, they will have either won or lost. Winning gives discounts on their meal and drinks
>guests will be let into the restaurant/bar proper, where they will be able to choose food and drinks from a tablet on their table
So that's basically an escape room combined with a restaurant, using the cyberpunk aesthetic. It needs work so I'm open to ideas.
Cyberpunk Bar
>down an unassuming staircase in central Tokyo
>bar is low lighting with a very bare bones industrial look
>the bar itself sells cheap Kirin Heartland beer and a variety of cocktails
>cigarette vending machine next to bar
>some tables and chairs for the weeknights but on the weekends the chairs are removed to make.more space for a dance floor
>a resident/guest DJ plays drumnbass, techno, house
Real bar with cyberpunk lifestyle
>in shady area of Tokyo
>similar bar set up as above, cheap beer/cocktails, cheap instant ramen
>VPN set up for people to connect to and do their "illegal" hacking
>drugs sold secretly behind the counter
>customers are low lifes, hacker bros, Yakuza
>TL;DR it's cyberpunk because it's genuinely down-and-dirty not because of neon lights
I wonder if any of these ideas are feasible. I am open to suggestions on them. I accept it's more of a pipe dream, but I feel that the second bar idea could work well. There are already some clubs in Shibuya that cater to the techno crowd, but they are more styled purely as clubs.
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No.54576
>>54569
The first idea aint bad as a business, but it's casual and poser as fuck.
The second is alright.
The third is wannabe as fuck, just make a place with tech aesthetics and let it be and evolve on its own.
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No.54577
>>54576
>The first idea aint bad as a business, but it's casual and poser as fuck.
I agree it's fake as all hell but it could turn a profit.
>The second is alright.
Thanks it's my favourite option of the lot. I just wanna smoke lucky strikes behind the bar while serving cheap beer to shway looking techno lovers.
>The third is wannabe as fuck, just make a place with tech aesthetics and let it be and evolve on its own.
You're probably right it was just me throwing the idea out there.
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No.54601
>>54569
>experience
I can't see anyone bothering to go through all that fucking garbage to get into a bar. A fucking escape room and a secret puzzle you have to wait for? Fuck that millennial nonsense.
>cyberpunk bar
I can see that going well. Sounds like a place here in Canada that I used to go to that was the longest running alternative nightclub in my city.
>'real bar'
Eh. Sure. You can't really expect that Yakuza are gonna give a tenth of a fuck about your place though. Don't they tend to prefer places they own?
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No.54637
>>54576
What's bad about draining poser wage slaves of their brouzouf?
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No.54650
>>54637
Being a poser "rebel" who in reality sucks dicks and goes out of business because of frauds and shitty overpriced services.
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No.54657
>>54637
That sounds cyberpunk, be as much of a cynic as possible while at it
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No.54721
>>54569
The "real bar" sounds like a gaming lounge in Montreal I used to go to. Very early in its life, it was sorta like that, minus actual hacking in favor of just playing video games. But it was a fighting games hangout so people had their diy'd or at least custom fightsticks. The tables were salvaged picnic tables, and the place had fairly harsh yet dim fluroscent lighting. On the menu was indeed cheap instant ramen (it was like two bucks or something) It wasn't in THAT shady an area, but it was still below a felafel place and next to several strip clubs and the place itself is in a dank basement (even cleaned up now they still have trouble with good ventilation and avoiding water damage) so it's a little shady I guess.
It's cleaned up a lot since, gotten real furniture, got a better menu and then rid of the menu altogether, etc. so it's really hip and fancy now, but when it started the walls were painted with just primer and the front end of the place was plywood diy XBOX360 "arcade cabinets" always running SF4, and some genuine pinball and classic arcade machines to their side
anyway my point here is it's totally feasible if you have a good location and a customer base that will have good reason to become regulars (such as having games available or being oriented towards some kind of work you could do drunk)
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No.55601
>>52717
>Weird how nobody seems to get that. I know Gibson et al. turned out to be masochist-tier turboleftists, but the cyberpunk genre itself never really leaned one way or another. People forget both the left and the right showed up to the '99 WTO riots.
Like the Yellow Vests today.
>>52718
> Nationalism is inherently anti-individual (placing mind-AIDS like "the state" over all things).
You think of patriotism here. Nation actually means people. In the old days, it meant a coherent genetic and cultural group. If anything, the shared values, memories, culture and the accomplishments of individuals were part of the not yet labeled nationalism, and it involved a hefty amount of social justice too. At some point it got screwed with certain variants of feudalism, then later on with the industrial revolution and plutocrats (pre-globalists) already very aware of pitting migrants and women against working men who more or less found themselves forced to move closer to the cities, into the factories, because their life was becoming unmanageable in the countryside.
>>52748
Please learn more about NatSoc. I'm not saying it's a good system, but… I know, race and all that, but is it surprising that cyberpunk dystopias tend to be multicultural failed societies too?
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No.55602
>>54650
>German turned slave-shazbot by those who hang shazbots in motivational snackbar videos?
Logical.
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No.55615
>>55601
>but is it surprising that cyberpunk dystopias tend to be multicultural failed societies too?
I don't think classic cyberpunk writers really meant to use this as a cause rather than a symptom. Cyberpunk comes with the good and the bad, and it's up to you to decide whether what you are seeing is one of the dystopic parts, or one of the schway parts. There may be neutral components as well, that are just the logical reaction of either a schway part or a dystopic part, and they don't necessarily have to fit inside the "cool and bad" dichotomy. Gaudy fashion trends aren't necessarily bad, just a symptom of consumerism, for example.
In my opinion, multiculturalism falls in one of those reactions outside of the dichotomy, regardless of whether you personally think it is good or bad. It is meant to be the logical conclusion of global inequality and social atomization. People in cyberpunk settings migrate because they may be coming from poorer countries with less opportunities (this is where mass inmigration comes in play), or they may simply lack a sense of belonging to a place or community, which may push them to attempt to find their place in the world somewhere else, or maybe a combination of both.
If I recall correctly, Case, from Neuromancer, was born in America, yet he lived in Japan. I don't remember the book giving an explanation for this, but I assume it was because Case didn't feel to have a place in the world, and so he travelled just because he didn't have any strings attached. He didn't look like the kind of people who wanted to make a lot of brouzouf he blew most of the shitloads of brouzouf he got from The Job on a new computer and some silly shit, just get by, and he used to get by back in America, so he either migrated due to muh feels (which is unlikely, considering how much of a cold fish he is), or just because he could. This is probably not the same way for people migrating from poorer countries to richer ones, but you get the idea: the cyberpunk socioeconomic climate forces people to scramble.
If you are talking about cyberpunk societies in real life, though, multiculturalism is irrelevant. Japan is culturally homogenous as fuck, and yet they are peak cyberpunk.
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No.55656
There used to be a place here in St. Louis that honestly was pretty cyberpunk. It had a bank of old monitors mounted on the wall connected to a splitter, and an old box locked in a cabinet in the DJ booth played old anime, skateboarding, or cgi films like poyasqatsi. Sapporo was on tap as a special, and depending on the time of year there was sometimes a chef in the basement kitchen serving Vietnamese and bar food. There was a very powerful sound system with hanging JBL 2-ways chained to the rafters and a 5 foot tall double-stacked subwoofer. DJs played house, techno, or dubstep, sometimes downtenpo or hip-hop (the industrial/synth heavy scene was too much of a gatekept circle-jerk to come through, but no genres were kept out).
The place was always dark, the windows were always either covered or tinted, and most of the walls were painted black. There were diner-style booths with red vinyl benches, and if you knew the people spinning that night, you could make use of the slightly more private DJ booth to partake in most things as long as you weren't skeezing anyone out.
Several regulars there were barfly burnouts who were always looking to talk for hours about nothing in particular. There was no bouncer but the bartenders themselves although friendly, were built like a brick shithouse, and on some occasions ended several fights in one blow. Most people kept to themselves and discretion was never in short supply.
The owner/manager of the bar was the son of the owner of the building. After a roof collapse that forced them to close one of the businesses there (another bar), and the son passing away recently, the family decided to shutter their doors instead of trying to run the bar in his absence.
It was usually slow in terms of traffic on weeknights because most people were afraid of the spot, but weekends would attract crowds. I guess you never appreciate what you have until it's gone.
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No.55657
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No.55664
>>55656
Sounds a bit like a more 水 version of a place here in London, Ontario called The Wreck'd Room.
Place was a shitty basement. More of a hallway than anything else. You'd come down the stairs from street level and on busier nights there'd be one bouncer at the door just to check ID. Entering the door, on your left would be the DJ booth set back into the wall. You could pretty much always expect a mix of industrial, darkwave, EBM, Dark Electro, Industrial Metal, and Nu Metal to be playing at high volume from a surprisingly good soundsystem.
In front of the DJ booth was a small space of only several meters square kept clear as a dance floor with a cheap strobe and laser above it, and crammed in after that along the wall was a shitty vinyl bench and a couple rickety tables.
On your right would be a scarred and ill maintained wooden bar and a couple stacks of beer boxes, with a small sign showing the drink specials and a long shelf lit by blacklight. On the far end of the bar would be a TV often tuned to a film channel or the news. The bar was always staffed by the asian owner, who eventually closed the place because he was hemorrhaging brouzouf keeping it open.
Walls were painted blue-grey and decorated with fading posters lit by blacklight, and in the back were a couple pool tables.
No food was available, but around the corner was a souvlaki/gyro place.
The place was pretty much Rivethead Central for the city until it closed down.
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No.56356
There is a bar/restaurant not far from me that is themed around video games.
You can go there with friends and do some co-op console gaming. You can even game alone, but I suck at console games so I don't do that.
The drinks and food are expensive. The decor is high-class. It is probably a profitable place. Colorful LEDs instead of neon, but very much like being inside a video game. Not very punk at all, so probably not what OP would want. But profitable.
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No.56465
Maybe a nice big metal topped bar with beveled edges, like a modified food prep table or something along those lines. Or a thick sheet of plexiglass with little lcd screens angled up at the patrons, screens with loops or movies or whatever. How hard could it be to make it so it blinks on and says hi when you sit down. Make it easy and cheap. People don't have to be focused on it, it would be a novelty.
What can we reuse and throw in to liven it up and add to the atmosphere? Get somebody to sketch regulars and put them up on the wall every so often. Turn on the happy hour led sign and hologram menus guys!
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No.58225
>>56465
That would be pretty easy to fabricate, really. Just don't bother using plexiglass and use resin instead, since you can repair it easily and make a nice smooth even bevel. A simple set of sensors could detect when someone is in close proximity and switch the image to a little face smiling and waving with a "Hello!" and then to another one with a "Goodbye" when they leave as well. It wouldn't even take that much programming.
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