No.50265
We probably all heard of use of drugs to enhance certain abilities in different cyberpunk, these "poor man's body augmentations". Are drugs used for such purpose irl?
I tried searching about it, but all i found was general info about drug abuse among students, which sounds petty. Are any stimulants used in todays military/police/anything? Do you know any notable examples? Even drug-related resources cover that aspect extremely rarely. I found this material, you might find interesting http://www.textfiles.com/drugs/enhance.txt . If i missed something important on stims or drugs in general, i'll be grateful for that kind of info.
I think this tread might also be suitable for general drug usage discussion.
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No.50267
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No.50274
>>50265
>Are any stimulants used in todays military/police/anything?
Closest you'll get is the military use of First Strike Rations and Soldier Fuel energy bars when deemed applicable.
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No.50276
Drugs and stims are for fags. Enjoy your short term buffs and long term debuffs.
Grind your STR/AGI/DEX etc for physical shit.
Grind your WIS/SPR/INT etc for non-physical shit.
Implants are cool for surpassing the limits of the human body though.
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No.50280
>>50276
Sometimes a short boost is more important or even vital then long-term progression. Drugs do have applications, and ignoring them means ignoring opportunities that could once save you.
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No.50281
>>50274
Thanks, energy bars seem pretty interesting, especially if they do boost more than, say, coffee.
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No.50318
>>50276
There's something to be said for depressants though. Alcohol is a depressant. I've gone running while drunk and it's the only time I've really enjoyed it. Runner's high must come in a fucking bottle because I have never experienced it otherwise.
Non physical shit I tend to agree with. A sage at a hackerspace that I visited once told me that no one was allowed to make changes to the servers after they had six beers because no one would be able to figure it out the next day.
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No.50321
>>50318
>runner's high
I've experienced this. Was very pleasant but I haven't run in years and can't describe exactly how I achieved it. Ultimately, I was running on willpower and the "high" was just something that happened without me really trying to achieve it or realizing when it happened.
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No.50323
>>50321
>>50318
i thought the runner's high was the high you get after you finish running.
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No.50324
>>50323
You're correct.
You should understand that this place is mostly browsed by teenage-kids, larping wannabes who have no idea of what they blatter about.
They basically get placebo'd by every word they read on the Internet. In this board, nothing should be considering anywhere close to actual-reality.
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No.50327
>>50324
I actually was serious about all that stuff,even though i have no reason to do anything right now. My knowledge of drugs and chemistry in general is extremely low, but i'm working on that. If you know, how to tell the difference and find out if anon is LARPing? I really didn't get it even after i googled it, considered that i got something wrong, while got it wrong in other way, and now feel bad for being stupid.
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No.50328
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No.50330
>>50323
50318 here. Have you? Have you run 5k? Have you experienced something akin to a high after that?
I have run 5k, I still run 5k but I don't do it because I expect some pleasurable response. I drink for that.
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No.50399
The only legit cyberdrug would be flakka.
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No.50413
>>50265
Caffeine would be the most useful drug out there, as well as anything for people with ADHD since it hones your focus. Also alcohol is good for some liquid courage. When I drink half a bottle I feel like I could start a fight with someone and not be scared.
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No.50441
>>50413
>Caffeine
This. I mix caffeine with L-Theanine in my stack and it works great.
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No.51307
>>50265
I use anything that helps me going.
Modafinil, caffeine, ritalin, 2-FA(pep analogue) to name a few.
I even microdose 1P-LSD if i need to be a bit more creative.
Amphetamine and ritalin works wonders if used properly but dose can't be used daily if you don't want to have any major changes in your brain chemistry.
I think that caffeine may be the worst kind of stimulant to use for any kind of job.
It maybe keep you awake but you're not functioning at a normal level.
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No.51309
>>50276
>long term debuffs
Never had those // you might not now how to use drugs anon
Also
>Paul Erdős
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No.51320
I'd consider using anything that boosts connectivity and neurogenesis, such as lsd, psilocybin and modafinil and others?
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No.51325
>>50274
air force pilots on long missions are dosed on modafinil to stay awake
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No.51356
>>51325
I wonder how much and how often
Because i can sleep on 200mg of modalert no problem
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No.51386
>>51356
Your body can get used to just about anything. If you want a 'high' from drugs, you can't fucking take them all the time.
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No.51387
>>51386
Well yeah I know ofc
But I know a guy who did 200mg for first time and it had zero to little effect on them.
With almost no prior drug experience.
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No.51390
>no mention of steroids
250mg of testosterone weekly will allow you to be a man in this estrogen filled world
500mg of testosterone weekly and 40mg daily of dianabol (to bulk) or 50mg daily of anavar (to get lean) and you'll really see changes
700mg of testosterone and 700mg of trenbolone weekly and you'll be on godmode
Most steroids have some mental effects as well and also change your body's pheremones so people are more submissive around you and women are more sexually attracted to you
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No.55893
>>50276
psueodephedrine, phenylephrine, caffeine, tobacco for upper
Kratom for downer. I personally take morphine but thats not poor mans w/e
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No.55894
>>50265
"Go pills" is military slang. Usually refers to wakefulness agents like Modafinil (Provigil) or "dexies" (Dextroamphetamine) was used by pilots and probably still is.
I've been told people generally stay awake for about 36 hours without need of sleep. After than you crash and sleep for a long time. Basically keeps you awake as during the mission.
There has been some change in policy since the Tarnak Farm incident (April 17, 2002, near Kandahar, Afghanistan)
>>50323
runners high is usually during running. You run enough to get endorphins. feelsgoodman.jpg 3 miles or better. Longer run better high, keep running stay high. The high can last about an hour.
This will seem counter-intuitive for you cyber-fags but drinking alcohol will help you code better. I use the "Ballmer Peak" to get coding done.
I usually drink a bit of coffee and energy drinks. By the time I'm done coding I'm wound up. I drink to manage anxiety. What I noticed is part of the brain that inhibits whatever processes are involved with coding actually becomes inhibited by the alcohol. So long as you keep just the right amount of buzz on it you basically have superhuman coding abilities.
The discovery of this effect is attributed to Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft. Studies have confirmed the validity of Ballmer's findings.
I typically don't code more than about 100 lines per sitting. I might code a script or a few functions every day.
>>51390
I'm over 40 and I've considered taking some steroids to boost my t level.
I was taking a product called Nugenix which is available at GNC and I had no problem getting back to a 10k run and 2k swim. Basically running one day and swimming the next. Doing cardio 6 days per week. Then calisthenics, weight lifting, and martial arts. Not sure what kind of gains I would get with steroids but it would probably help. Once I hit age 32 I was like don't wanna anymore. Getting older sucks.
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No.55944
>>50327
We need those uppers, downers, and all-arounders. DEA ain't gonna take my Bannanacin away
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