No.48715
Lets talk about guns.
Weapons from fiction or irl that are cyberpunk like in approach and aesthetic.
Also if you want to know more about a certain weapon in fiction i'd recommend IMFDB
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Main_Page
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No.48716
>cyberpunk like in approach and aesthetic
Let's start by clarifying the definitions, the most fun part!
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No.48717
>>48716
Sorry I wasn't thinking that well when writing that. I just wanted to talk about guns that look and/or operated in a kinda cyberpunk manner.
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No.48726
>https://www.saltsupply.com/
>plucky startup by Californians
>shoots proprietary non-lethal rounds
>rounds are not actually made of salt
This is cyberpunk we deserve.
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No.48745
Calico firearms.
Calico was a weird brand, the sort of thing that could only be born in the 80s. They made pistols and carbines in 9mm and .22, mostly trying to get law enforcement contracts. The big draw was the fact that they only came with 50 and 100 round drum mags. They could have been successful if not for the fact that the Clinton assault weapons ban in the 90s killed off their opportunities in the civilian market, and they had already pretty much failed in the professional market. They're still around, and might even be growing again, but they're a shell of their former self.
And the guns were pretty badly flawed. Rear sights were mounted on the mags themselves, resulting in poor accuracy. All of the 9mm models, the only ones LEOs would be interested in, were prone to jamming. They were relatively high maintenance, and mag quality varied sometimes.
Nevertheless, the space gun aesthetic was enough to land them in a bunch of films (probably the most notable was Spaceballs), and even in a Shadowrun splatbook (pic related) with some kind of smartlink, and depicted properly with shell casings ejecting downwards. I maintain it's one of the most underrated cyberpunk guns out there, and it's a dream of mine to hook a VR helmet camera system to one and rig some software to give a precise gun camera display in the middle of a VR camera feed.
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No.48746
>>48745
And for something a bit more modern: The Maxim 9
Looking for all the world like the Dominator from Psycho-Pass, the Maxim 9 is an integrally suppressed pistol. I actually got to fingerfuck one at a gun show and was quite impressed. For the size, it's very light and well-balanced. The suppressor is the main draw, it would be a nice but unremarkable 9mm pistol without it. It's reliable, quiet, and has been well-received. If it wasn't such a pain to get a tax stamp for a suppressor, I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
As an added two bonuses, it will take glock mags, and contrarian cocksucking hipster shazbot fudds like YankeeMarshal absolutely hate it.
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No.48747
>>48746
And for my last cybergun: The Chiappa Rhino, the modern-day Mateba.
Poor Emilio Ghisoni. The man was a mechanical engineer that made pasta machines. Or more accurately, his father did, and when his father died, he had the company make guns instead. It doesn't get any more Italian than that. The gun's name isn't even "Mateba", it's the "Mateba Unica 6 Autorevolver" - Mateba was the name of the company AND possibly of their trademark pasta kneading machine. Nobody actually knows if "Macchine Termo-Balistiche" was put on their spaghetti squashers.
Emilio really liked shooting guns, but apparently really hated recoil. He took his engineering skills and made a revolver that had a 6:00 barrel position, was truly semi-automatic, and had one of the best overly-complex aesthetics in the gun world. Immortalized by Ghost in the Shell just two years after the gun went to market, the Unica 6 is every cyberpunk-wannabe's wet dream, and none of them will ever own one because they start at $3000 or so - if you can even find one.
So this is not about the Unica 6. This is about the Chiappa Rhino. See, Mateba (the company) failed after Emilio sold it, presumably because they didn't realize that there were a million neckbeards willing to drain their bank accounts for one of these revolvers (or the 90s were just a shitty time for guns in the US). His body failing, Emilio made one last gun design, giving it to Antonio Cudazzo of FAR Firearms. Antonio tweaked it a bit but couldn't convince Emilio, so he did a wax mockup and Emilio fell in love with it - then died in 2008.
Antonio shopped around until he found a company crazy enough to produce a gun designed by the same nation that brought us futurism and Ferraris - Chiappa. And thus the Rhino was born. It's even got Emilio's trademark 6:00 barrel position.
It's ugly as fuck unless you like that sort of thing (which you do, if you like the Mateba). It looks simple but has an absurdly complex trigger mechanism hidden inside. It suffered for a long time with a stiff trigger and reliability issues - in a revolver, of all the absurd things. But Chiappa worked on it, and worked on it, and slowly the gun community began to take notice. Muzzle flip was miniscule, recoil was incredible even with the hefty .357 magnum round, it's lightweight with a frame milled from a single block of aluminum, it comes a bunch of different sizes, it's ugly to the point of sending fudds and cowboys into fits of apoplectic rage, and it's the closest you will ever get to owning a Mateba. It's not semi-automatic. You're going to either be cocking the hammer between every shot, or you're going to be shooting in double-action (although thankfully the trigger has improved vastly, and old models are actually eligible for a free trigger job). But it's still Emilio's design, that he poured his heart into, and with a few tweaks over the years, it's a damned nice pistol by all accounts.
Their biggest mistake is that the model with the 3-inch barrel is in a disgusting white-and-grey color scheme instead of good old blued steel and walnut. Why the fuck, Chiappa? I just want something between range size and carry size.
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No.48767
>>48747
>my grandfather had a Mateba once
>he gave it away to the authorities because there was no one in my family interested in "keeping" it
>I was only a kid at the time, yet I still wanted the gun because it looked "cool"
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No.48768
The Hera Arms CQR furniture is pretty cool. It only really looks good on 7.5 or 10 barrels.
>>48767
That's a damn shame.
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No.48772
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No.48776
Anything you can't get in a back alley is not cyberpunk. Period.
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No.48777
>>48776
I think the idea is that, in 20yrs, you'll be 3D printing these as antique, proven, designs. Cyberpunk is about a gritty future, but often times, the things we see as 'futuristic', are antique to the characters in the story.
Think about Neuromancer. The gun used to kill Case's girlfriend in an antique revolver with duct tape around the handle. In Johnny Mnemonic, Johnny uses an antique shotgun with hand-rolled ammo.
You think those guns are 'antique' to us now? No, those are the 'futuristic' guns we can't even get a hold of, and probably after-market home-reproduced versions at that.
Cyberpunk isn't about what you can get in a back alley today. It's about what you'll get in a back alley in 50yrs.
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No.48825
>>48776
Nah, cyb is getting the good shit for when you need it and the okay stuff for the rest of the time. If someone's got something big going down, they're not gonna take some back-alley shazbot's junk piece and hope it doesn't explode in their face. They're gonna make a deal with someone with the right connections, snag something from a transport, scavenge something from a private sec guard after a riot. Trash isn't cyberpunk, it just happens to be around a lot.
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No.48826
>>48746
Is it an actual inspiration for Dominator or just a coincidence?
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No.48827
Why electronic ignition of cartriges is never used in guns?
Should be more safe than mechanical, and have super smooth Cherry MX Red trigger.
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No.48853
>>48827
Because electronic triggers are defined as 'machineguns' in the USA and similarly restricted in other western countries. This is because with a small alteration of code or contacts you can turn it select fire. A mechanical trigger which causes electric ignition would be legal, however.
Electronic ignition also isn't as heavily tested as percussion, and most electric ignition cartridges are caseless which has its own reasons for being abandoned (for now).
Pic related is basically the most cyb light machinegun known to man. The only way to up-cyb it is to make it caseless and connect the scope via fiberoptic to an occipital implant.
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No.48892
>>48726
>rounds are not actually made of salt
fucking dropped
>>48853
>the most cyb light machinegun known to man
what's special about it? just looks like an mg3 to me
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No.51821
Anything not a pulse gun isn't cyberpunk
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No.51829
>>51821
>x is not cyberpunk
nice addition to the conversation, fuck off back to reddit
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No.51839
What's the bump limit here? There's another thread about cyberpunk guns, but it has a huge number of posts already. We should talk about how to design and manufacture these beauties instead of just ogling them.
>>51821
What shitty fucking shithole did you crawl out of? Are you going to tell me that Ghost in the Shell, The Matrix and Deus Ex aren't cyberpunk because they all have extensive use of bullets? Christ.
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No.51841
>>51839
>What's the bump limit here?
I thought the bump limit was 400 but it still bumps.
"reply_limit":700, so 250 posts remain.
I'd say just post till it stops bumping. The board is slow enough even when it stops bumping it'll float for awhile.
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No.51844
>>48726
>buy re-branded paintball gun
>get beat to death in a home invasion
Real fucking cyberpunk.
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No.51883
>>48715
Can't beat Jin-Roh aesthetics in that sense. Of course, technology-wise, would need to add a better weapon and cybernetic parts to the armor and visor (they actually have a bare-bones, low angle nightvision goggles)
>>51844
That moment when using a ball and cap revolver as a home defense weapon is actually a better idea
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No.52105
>>51883
Modernized black powder firearms is a pretty schway concept.
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No.52131
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No.52137
Definitely not the best to defend yourself with, but pretty /cyber/-looking right off the shelf
Beretta Neos is what happens when Beretta wants a new in on the olympic-style .22LR pistol but also has a lot of friends at an Italian luxury car company.
Out the gate, it has two barrel options, the long competition barrel and the shorter carry-style barrel, as well as a carbine-conversion kit. All barrels featured a top picatinny rail for optics and adjustable sights for crazy precision for its price (I picked one up for $250). There were also color options off the shelf, and an a few after market companies made really good suppressed barrels for it, though they would be mostly useless since the breach opens so wide and the action is actually half the noise itself.
They discontinued the carbine kit, but are still you can still find a lot of these around.
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No.52138
>>48853
Depends on the firearm and trigger mechanism. If you mechanically gimp your trigger group or action to be one pull, one bullet, there's no worry.
pic related: diagram of Remington 700 Etronx electronic trigger mechanism.
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No.52139
.22's were bad too. Also, the magazines took forever to load, and if you messed up one of the 50 or 100 steps, you would end up with all of your rounds on the ground. I don't think that weapon system would have made it even without the AWB.
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No.52140
Gyrojet made electronically-fired rocket-propelled projectile ammunition and firearms. These were very prototypical, however.
Long story short, it turns out if you affix a rocket to a bullet, that bullet no longer maintains a ballistic path, so they were useless out to anything past about 5m. It was pretty much the same problem as the RPG-7 before fins were a regular feature on the rockets.
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No.52142
>>52131
I cannot fucking wait to get my vector 2. Will be my truck gun in a matte black Porsche.
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No.52143
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No.52144
>>51839
There is a noguns fag from Sweden who bans firearm discussions on his cyber discord.
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No.52148
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>>52140
Gyrojet wasn't e-fired, it had good ol' mechanical primer. And yes, it sucked. For example, this guy had the primer blasted out on one of the rounds.
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No.52149
I have a Walhter PPK that I carry in my pocket. I got it because of Case carrying a knock-off one in Neuromancer. But his, in the book, had a plastic red grip with a dragon or snake designed carved into it. I'm trying to find a grips like that for mine.
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No.52151
>>52149
do you train with it? even at 5 yards a micro barrel like that might not be worth much.
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No.52152
>>52137
they do look cool. and .22 can still be lethal with the right shot. i wouldn't bet my life on it though.
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No.52153
not super cyber looking but it's my current edc. a comfy 9mm loaded with hollow points. if you consider how cyber characters normally have shit guns, i'd say im doing good. today's shooting:
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No.52154
Thinking of buying this. Auto-loaders are cyber.
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No.52225
>>52137
Target pistols always look so neat.
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No.52231
>>48745
So I bought a Calico at last. Found it stupidly cheap. Bought a factory rail and a cheap $100 laser off Amazon. Pic related is the final result, I couldn't be more pleased with the aesthetic. The ergos are great for hipfiring.
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No.52239
>>52153
>windows
you need to fuck off, npc
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No.52247
>>48747
I always liked the looks of the Rhino, but they only come in .357, .40, 9mm, and 9x21mm. They need to put out at least a .44 or something before I'll buy one.
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No.52254
>>52239
>only tranny approved linux is cyber and allows you to appreciate the genre of cyberpunk
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No.52263
>>52153
>T R I G G E R
>D I S C I P L I N E
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No.52264
>>52254
>GNU/Tranny OS
no, I use openbsd
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No.52273
>>52264
not an argument against this statement nigger
>>52254
>>only tranny approved linux is cyber and allows you to appreciate the genre of cyberpunk
no one cares about your puter kike
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No.52348
>>52231
That's pretty sexy.
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