/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

if you can afford this kinda shit it shows that you have more brouzouf than sense. also it is neither punk nor cyber, and its' schway-ness will fade within a few years, leaving you with just some shitty techwear you spent too much brouzouf on.

>yet another "How do I become a cyberpunk poser rich kid ν-male?" thread

Acronym is overpriced. You can find similar stuff for way more less.

It's cool looking, I give you that, but who can afford on a regular basis Acronym clothes?

>>46861

This. Just grab some rigid clothes from a thrift store and order some techwear from uniqlo or whatever.

If you must have a glowing visor, at least build it yourself.

>>47197

>If you must have a glowing visor, at least build it yourself.

This.

Custom painted, patched, and spiked punk jackets were the shit.

What's the Cyberpunk equivalent?

>>47216

I think it'd be a wearable computer. There are several options that make it easy enough for a kid to thow one together. They can be made for under $100.

It's like a jacket, in terms of price and skill. It's something you can customize any way you can imagine, and it's still something so few people do, that it's not mainstream.

Also, custom systems say 'fuck you' to being tracked like an animal by your phones and other devices, which is pretty punk.

>>47245

Wearing all black is indeed fashion autistic. Throw in a grayscale, some dark colors, perhaps even a white.

>>47247

I wouldn't go so far as fashion autistic, but it's really, really, tough to pull off without looking like you're trying to look like a tough guy.

It's like how you might imagine wearing a sword would make you look dangerous, but really it just makes you look autistic, because you objectively do not need a sword, and the sorts of people who would wear one are never the sorts of people who would ever use one, and the people who would use one don't feel like they need to wear one.

http://www.militaryoutdoorclothing.com/

This site has these paramedic pants, they're useful for concealed weapon and first-aid kits.

>>47235

Can you hook me up with a guide for that <100€-wearable, chummer?

>>47265

Everyone is talking about /r/cyberdeck. I found this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/cyberDeck/comments/5icxla/update_on_my_xybernaut_inspired_wearable/

Not seeing a guide, but this dude lays out his build for around $100.

Ask him? Seems like he wants to help.

If you can afford hundreds of dollars for a single piece of clothing, you aren't cyberpunk.

I buy my clothing cheap and modify it as I see fit. Stick to dark colors with a bit of bright neon thrown in on occasion. I prefer olive drab, black, and gray, with a bit of brown or white, and occasionally red or neon green.

>>47270

That looks autistic as fuck. Who the fuck would wear something so ridiculous in public?

>>47288

I wouldn't wear those stupid cat ears … but that chick looks pretty hot in them.

>>46851

there are two types of people on /cyber/

actual cyberpunks that've realized the importance of technology, and thus have a skill worth between eighty and one-hundred and fifty thousand dollars

and posers. lol.

actual cyberpunks are probably loaded as fuck

>>46851

Step 1: Never take fashion advice from someone who uses the terms 'power level' or 'normies'.

>>47294

'actual cyberpunks' … You mean IT workers who've never heard the word Cyberpunk?

>>47368

^This

Cyberpunk isn't about rich IT bros, dressing like average joe, feeling superior because they downloaded Kali.

Cyberpunk is about people in housing projects hacking a tablet to get free books.

Cyberpunk is not Space-X billions funding some exciting Star-Trek Project.

Cyberpunk is some gutter-punk building his own smartphone, so he can sell drugs without getting caught.

Cyberpunk is about what happens when technology gets to the bottom. It's when Adafruit makes it so simple that anyone can do it, and the poor people at the bottom start doing things with it that no one ever thought of.

It doesn't even have to be illegal! Cyberpunk can be a shared network of library boxes that carry local news.

It doesn't have to be cutting edge! Cyberpunk can be a sneaker-net of USB keys, sending American TV shows and music to poor countries by way of a physical network of people.

Cyberpunk is not StarTrek. Cyberpunk is not shiny and new and sleek and buttonless.

Cyberpunk is cobbled together, sticks out, shows off, and gives the middle-finger to everyone who spent 10X as much to put a tracker in their pocket.

You might have a day job if you're Cyberpunk, but if you're walking around with the Star-Trek wannabe starter pack, not starting any shit at all with authority, you're just a tech-bro.

>>47235

Wearable computers are shit, it's purely for fashion and not for productivity.

grab a bag and a netbook and you can do anything on the fly if you need to do things (most people don't need a phone with them 24/7)

Technology is always there, it's useless to run around with wearable computers if you actually don't do anything with it and when you get back home or local hacker space you can use your netbook/laptop or desktop and other technology.

Cyberpunk for me also is using your brain where other people have lost theirs for example : going to a big city without any tech ( or with just a netbook ) and using a paper map and some brouzouf to come by ( instead of google maps, siri and all that bullshit ), making use of dark alleys instead of walking in sight of surveillance cameras, paying purely with brouzouf instead of cards and so on.

You will see quickly how disconnected people are from reality.

What i'm trying to say is that you can't really enhance yourself with wearable tech yet, it just sits in the way and is useless.

>>47379

I like wearables, because I'm already wearing them. I wear headphones, I wear a watch. Building my own means making those things I already carry do the things I want them to do, instead of the things someone like Apple tells me they should do.

I take your point, but I'll extend on it. Let's agree that 'Wearable vs. netbook' is a matter of taste. Almost only a matter of aesthetic.

I would imagine that any Cyberpunk will have put together a machine from scratch. Form factor is meaningless. If you made a netbook, hat, helmet, headphones, luggable or wristwatch, the point is that you know how it works, what its limitations are, and that it's not spying on you.

I only mentioned wearables specifically in this thread, because it's about fashion, and if there's any DIY-fashion a Cyberpunk should be involved in, it should be wearable computing.

>>47387

Cyberpunk has become about wannabes watching Mr. Robot and going to corporate sponsored netsec challenges. People on this board, bitching about being afraid to draw attention to themselves when they've never done anything illegal in their lives. All at the same time they post pics of crazy outlandish chicks with 6ft glowing mowhawks and implants. It all scared kids, fantasizing about being cool, scared to death of the opinions of strangers.

>>47393

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Like, I get the other guy with blah, blah, children, blah blah, mr. robot … whatever. Sure, asshole.

But, seriously, you talk like people already know what you're talking about, and I have no fucking idea.

> Sub-cultures should be improved

How? How does this relate to anything said?

>look at the idiotic pitfalls of gangster rap culture, this notion that sub-culture are sacred is not only stupid, but it's absolute brainwashing.

How? Brainwashing with what?

>When teens have no idea of the true enemy

What 'true enemy'? Who are these 'masters'? I can tell your comments because they literally sound like a schizophrenic wrote them.

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

>>47395

>How? How does this relate to anything said?

>wtf are you talking about

Read the thread.

>How? Brainwashing with what?

https://vimeo.com/67520537 Subcultures are used as controlled opposition. If you don't know where gangster rap comes from and aren't aware of it's results on people, than you need to do your research, nigger-culture is common knowledge, that's why i used the example.

>I can tell your comments

See if you were right, or at least subjectively right than this would mean something.

>because they literally sound like a schizophrenic wrote them.

That must be why i posted articles referencing what i talked about. My schizophrenia must be full blown esoteric wizardry because apparently my delusions manifest themselves in media and politics.

>>47397

>Read the thread.

I did. You did not list any suggested improvements.

>Subcultures are used as controlled opposition. If you don't know where gangster rap comes from and aren't aware of it's results on people, than you need to do your research, nigger-culture is common knowledge

Perfect example of you assuming something is 'common knowledge', and just talking about it like people know what you're on about.

>My schizophrenia must be full blown esoteric wizardry

'Esoteric Wizardry' is what I'd call your illness. Look, I'm just saying, assuming everyone is coming from the same place, and making comments like 'teens have no idea who the true enemy is', without explaining who you think the 'true enemy' is, makes you sound crazy.

I still don't know who you think the true enemy is. Is it the Devil? The Masters? The corporations? The cops? The secret world order?

You never say, so there's no way to know. I'm not in your head, man, you have to write for people who don't already know what you're talking about.

>>47398

You must be new here. He thinks Jews are beaming thoughts directly into his brain. Just ingore him.

What the fuck where did the topic go

>>47216

I figure that and anything Milspec as long as its not "super tacti-cool red dragon camo" shit

>>47446

I think that fails the DIY spirit. I hate the new Cyberpunk = tactical/tech clothing that costs more than anyone should be spending for a piece of clothing.

How much farther from Punk can you get than that? I think there's a barrier to entry with making/modding your clothes. If Cyberpunk wants to be a style, then we should be showing people how to mod/make their own clothes with something cyber. Cheap DIY that a kid in a shitty apartment could put together to give the middle finger to all the kids shopping at Target, too afraid to stand out at all. If it does something they can't do with their overpriced garbage, then all the better.

>>47457

That does pose a good point. I generally grab any mil-spec i have from returning vets or from bargin stores,but the DIY aspect is still important. I've been debating work on a reinforced jacket since the area i live and walk can get dangerous.

>>47461

What about a sensor on the collar to flash when someone comes at you from behind? My cousin was robbed in Baltimore, and they don't do it like a movie. They just walk up behind you and punch you in the back of the head, roll you out of your jacked, snatch your bag, and run. If he had 1/10th of a second of warning, he might have ducked, and they might've just run off.

>>47465

Something like that could work,trucky part would be false positives and such,even then i'd still want some padding. Getting run over once was enough and i got lucky it clipped my shoulder that time.

>>47481

I don't think false-positives would be an issue. It's not there to tell you that you're being robbed, or even that someone is coming up behind you. It's just there to say 'Something is 2 feet or less from your neck right now'. You could leave it off except for when you're walking around. As for armoring your jacket, that's just a separate issue, like adding spikes. Makes no difference one way or the other.

>>47487

Ahhh okay,i misunderstood what you meant by sensor. Okay that would be helpful. Spikes could help,but they draw a bit more attention daily and certain things (like getting run over) can make them more of a threat to you.

>>47465

Love this idea. Anyone got any other ideas for reactive wearbles? I like the idea of 'living clothing'. Maybe make something that moves on its own somehow …

>>47379

>using your brain where other people have lost theirs for example

>going to a big city

>making use of dark alleys instead of walking in sight of surveillance cameras,

>with brouzouf

Lol. You have no clue.

I'll tell you chummers something

learn how to sew, just basic shit like what seams and stitches to use for what

then go to a 2nd hand store where they sell old shit, and buy a old sewing machine. old and heavy, doesn't even have to be electric but it's probably a lot cheaper than the manual kind. and faster to sew with

knowledge and the right tool for the job, then you go from there

>>47487

>I don't think false-positives would be an issue

Not that guy but they would be a problem, you would get a light every time someone walks behind you and eventually you would dismiss it, until its an actual robber

Best solution IMO would be to have an actual camera behind your head with a small hidden HUD to see behind you all the time.

>inb4 "how the fuck you do that"

There are sub-1 inch LCDs you can buy, run it with a mini arduino and build something like a google glass on a pair of cheap glasses

>>47379

>netbook

>in 2010+7

Don't be a shazbot

>instead of google maps, siri

What is openmaps

>making use of dark alleys

Easy now coldsteel

>paying purely with brouzouf

Most business will think you're a criminal or a terrorist, better use an anonymous disposable debit card, or better yet a cryptocard

>>47387

>getting co-opted by controlled opposition (like leftism and then SJWs)

Too late, the google memo shit showed even the big ones are coopted af.

The hackerspace is even worse, companies like adafruit are sjw hellholes full of nepotism. The CM is the wife of one of the founders and she keeps talking shit about the community and banning members. Same happened with github tho the cunt there went overboard and it hit the media so it got herself and her CTO hubby fired.

Punks got coopted because even from the start a lot of members were yuppie kids. You always had richfags trying to get into counterculture, they are the same that a few years later take stuff from those subcultures and go commercial. The gf of one of the sex pistols started a punk fashion company in the early 90's

Basically punks are a bunch of sellouts, even hippies took longer to bend over to the markets

>>47397

>that fucking muhsatan video

GTFO shazbot

>>47216

>What's the Cyberpunk equivalent?

Black trenchcoat or jacket with custom wiring so you don't have to use any wireless shit full of megacorp implanted backdoors like normies do

>>48258

False problems are the only issue.

Sun glasses with mirrors exist now. No one wants them because the effort of monitoring yourself isn't worth it. Every glance back is a false positive.

What you need is machine learning. Perhaps a drone following you, and deciding when there is a threat to you based on machine learning. Perhaps even actively responding

The cringe is strong in this thread. Your own families don't care about you faggots so stop larping like you're important enough to capture the governments interest in your shitposting to jewish websites.

>>47481

Well, you could easily use a microwave motion sensor - which has way better sensibility than IR - and glitch it to adjust the distance. I think it can be easily done with Arduino.

>>48268

Not very easy to do, given the current state of the available drones average flight time. Though I think that with a DIY solar powered drone it would be quite viable.

How come nobody said anything of smart glasses? I guess Google's fiasco is a reason, but anyways… I would like to see something like this (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vue/vue-your-everyday-smart-glasses/description) but that could be able to embody forks and such. They say they're opening their API but don't link any resources to it. Seems like they are going proprietary.

>>48268

>a drone following you

Great way not to attract any attention!

>>48273

Well, it started with the idea of making a light flash if someone is very close to you, to be turned on at night.

But, since this board has no grounding in reality at all, the kids took it and ran with it, and now we've got kids talking about AI and drones, stuff they obviously know nothing at all about.

I still think the concept of wearable technology as a replacement for spikes in the next iteration of the punk jacket is an interesting idea.

>>48365

>not having a sentient car that stays in your vicinity and can come to aid if needed

It's like you never seen Knight Rider, because holy shit I would love a car that did exactly that!

>>47297

How do you think trends are created, dumbass?

>>48434

Not by /pol/ brainlets, thats for sure.

>>46851

go back to your safespace, here isn't your place.

>>48789

>larping

I think both of you should get the fuck off /cyber/

>>48789

It's Christmas, so I'm going to give you a present that's been a long time coming. Whenever you mention larping, we know it's you. Calling something "larping" struck you as the ultimate dismissal, and you've been spamming this board with it since September, give or take. It didn't impress anyone the first time you tried it, and it isn't going to start impressing anybody now. But you're still here, and you must get something from it, so I forgive you. Contribute. Stick around. Be somebody.

Really i'd just prefer something that gives me discreet protection,sensors just notify that something might happen. Having something to possibly lessen damage could help

>>46845

I am naked with VR glasses. Wouldn't want anything else.

>>47245

It does match with nearly everything, that anon is /fa/shion clueless. But you never go full black.

>>48880

Good advice, although that being said I really do miss the goth scene of the late 90s/early 2000s

>>47387

>controlled opposition

>radioislam

Kys, being retarted is not cyberpunk

Milsurp is cyberpunk as fuck, it's what a lowlife would wear. You can add reflective strips and knockoff chinese jewelry to seem important but you never spend more on your clothes than you do your tech. Smartwatches are cool for the internet of things but a digital watch is more secure and sort of does the same thing. You can root a chinese phone rather than cobbling together some garbage- which while impressive, isn't reliable. If we're talking 2020 cyberpunk, it's about making the corporations work for YOU. Redboxing telephones, stealing tracfone minutes, hacking into local corporate internet to play video games and never being traced back to it because you're on the move. That's schway

>>49073

>Milsurp is cyberpunk as fuck, it's what a lowlife would wear.

Hahahaha … no, it's pretty much what teenagers and, oddly enough, old white conservatives wear. Coke dealers dress like everyone else, with maybe a little 'Thug' added in. Most dealers, though, just look poor, because they are.

> You can add reflective strips and knockoff chinese jewelry to seem important

Yes, because adding reflective strips like people who ride a bicycle and worry about getting hit by a car seems 'important', and go ahead and throw on some costume jewelry, hahaha.

>Smartwatches are cool for the internet of things but a digital watch is more secure and sort of does the same thing.

A watch is one of the only fashion accessories most people still wear, even though no one needs one. If you're going to wear one, as a 'low life', and try to make a statement, then typically anything out of the jewelery store will do. Burberry is popular, for instance, for being affordable on a good score, but not something just a little out of the price range of the out of work scum you sell to.

>Redboxing telephones

Welcome back to the 90's kids!

>stealing tracfone minutes

So you can do what? No one calls each other anymore.

>hacking into local corporate internet to play video games

'hacking' by clicking 'I agree' on the free internet page you didn't bother reading.

I've rarely seen such a giant pile of bullshit, made-up, advice spewed out all in one place.

You managed to cover several subjects, and prove you know nothing at all about any of them.

I'll never understand why people like you talk at all. I'm sure it sounded cool in your head, but if you ever even met a 'lowlife' you'd piss yourself, or try to act cool and get the shit kicked out of you.

>>49075

Milsurp is affordable and what you find in good will and is slightly cheaper than walmart, plus the durability is a bonus.

>Yes, because adding reflective strips…

There's tons of cheap jewelry if you want to wear it, or cheap options to get attention, we're talking about fashion here.

>wearing a watch as a statement

You wear it to tell time, if you want it to look cool that's on you, but I'd take digital over smartwatch since smartwatches are like 100$ and basically a shitty second phone.

>Stealing tracfone minutes/hacking local corporate internet/redboxing

One, tracfone has data and texting so if you could manage to steal prepaid cards properly you'd be able to use cellular internet and texts.

Redbox is still useful, there's payphones around especially in older undeveloped areas of the US, but it's not AS useful I'll admit.

>Hacking by clicking I agree

Yeah because they're going to have guest wifi when you sit on top of a corporate office roof. Most places are unsecure and you can just get the password through entry-level kiddie social engineering but if you ever get into somewhere cool it pays off. I didn't say it was impressive or super illegal, I'm just saying cyberpunk to me is minimizing your expenses while retaining high quality devices. Hope that clears things up.

>>49076

> Yeah because they're going to have guest wifi when you sit on top of a corporate office roof.

This is a fantasy. No one does this. If you're 'hacking' a corporation by SITTING ON THEIR ROOF, then you may as well just physically break in, since you're already committing burglary.

> Most places are unsecure and you can just get the password through entry-level kiddie social engineering but if you ever get into somewhere cool it pays off.

Again, why would you even say this? You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

You're just waxing your fantasies, trying to pretend that they're real.

This is why 'Cyberpunk' as a subculture is a joke. It's all people like you, just spouting bullshit they don't know anything about, too scared to admit it, and unwilling to make a list of shit they would ACTUALLY do, and try to start a real movement.

>>49078

Yeah, it is a fantasy. Cyberpunk2020 isn't real, it's a video game and tabletop series but it's where the style originates.

I think I know a lot about what I'm talking on or I wouldn't bring it up. Things are just, simpler than how it's embellished in the subculture. Getting internet access isn't hard, getting phone access isn't hard, urbexing is minimally difficult. I'm not going to tell you I'm a super cool hacker, I'm just some guy with a boringly mathematical skillset and an affinity for a style on the internet.

I don't have any fantasies, I just think something that seems so mundane to modern people is actually really cool. I think not enough people really understand the infrastructure that makes their lives and that puts me in an interesting perspective.

You sound like the one with the fantasy, wanting to start a 'real movement' when you could just learn what you can and have fun with technology while trying to make it more free for you and everyone else.

>>49079

This is the first thing you've written that didn't include some total bullshit, so good on you there. This. I buy this 100%.

>You sound like the one with the fantasy, wanting to start a 'real movement'.

Yes, I have a fantasy that people will stop calling themselves 'Cyberpunks', and talking about hacking corporations from building tops.

I have a fantasy that, instead, people will making zines, and meshnets, and piratebox networks, and personal radio stations, or whatever.

I have a fantasy that Cyberpunk influence on the real world could be something more like the Maker movement, where people get together to do things, and share a common interest, rather than sit in their basements and lie on the internet.

I don't care if it's just a resurgence of people playing tabletop Cyberpunk 2020.I don't care if it's just people adopting a custom DIY tech fashion. I'd be happy if it were a whole new generation of writers taking the genre to the next level. I'd love to go see a show where the bands all show off their Cyberpunk influences … whatever.

Just stop this. This 'I'm a super hacker who rides town to town riding zip lines between buildings, stealing corporate data' bullshit!

Anything you actually do is 100 times cooler than anything you don't do. Period.

>>49092

I understand the frustration but I also think it's not feasible to do cyberpunk things in the real world beyond a certain point. Sure, you can text people on your ham radio or break into places using social engineering and urbex techniques as I said but you're not going to firebomb zetatech industries off the face of the earth with a black market grenade launcher for the syndicate. Zines, meshnets, pirate networks, personal radios all sort of exist and don't exist. The FCC would crack down on anything that isn't properly broadcast which just makes it a regular station, not pirate radio, unless you think a podcast on the internet is pirate radio.

Corporations in the modern day aren't 'evil' persay, they're more like a predator, unknowingly causing harm due to a very simple bottom line and sheer ignorance. It's all so bureaucratic and boring that there's no real defined enemy like there would be in a book. They're not selling liquefied babies or anything.

Thus, we have to settle for playing tabletop online or hanging out at bars with laptops doing a little lan party, and digging in on Ashley Madison's leaks to fuck with people. I wasn't trying to sound overconfident, I was comparing the genre's characters to the modern day, but they don't quite match up. I think a man in surplus going around redboxing phones and getting free subscriptions would be a good character, and in terms of fashion, fashion is making a character for yourself and projecting into that outward appearance. It's not quite roleplaying, but in a way it's a matter of appearance not what's under the hood.

>>49094

>I understand the frustration but I also think it's not feasible to do cyberpunk things in the real world …

I don't think so either. But at least this is a real conversation. I don't feel like I'm talking to some social retard in his basement.

I really wish Cyberpunk would get back to just being genre of fiction. I wish 'Cyberpunks' were writers again. I wish a band of talented writers were hanging out somewhere, just coming up with wild, inspired, ideas about a dark future.

That said I'd be fine with it moving on to being more of an art movement. It's gone far beyond just writing. It's inspired albums, styles, art, games … but it's impossible to pin down. People can't agree on what it is at all, so it's just a bunch of vague themes popping up everywhere.

I love it for the art it's inspired, but as a subculture, it's stunted because most people who call themselves cyberpunk aren't artists, or creating or doing anything.

Mostly, it's people talking about hacking on rooftops, like that's a thing anyone has ever done.

>>49096

It's not going to happen. I used to nostalgiafag over the glory days of computing that I missed out on, but we all just have to get over it - it's not going to happen.

Happily, cyberpunk is relatively niche and will stay that way until CDPR releases Cyberpunk 2077. Since Witcher 3 was a huge hit, CP2077 will probably be as well, and it'll end up defining the aesthetic for people not familiar with it. Since they have Mike Pondsmith heavily involved and make pretty decent looking games, I'm sure the visuals will be quality and it'll fall more in line with gritty Gibsonian cyberpunk than with nu-cyberpunk vaporwave outrun bullshit.

>>49096

>I don't feel like I'm talking to some social retard in his basement.

Well I've heard before that /cyber/ is a rig posting board, not a sub culture. There's nothing really 'cyber' to do because everything's so interconnected and user friendly with no real tangible back end. Hacking is synonymous with being a computer nerd now because the information is out there, a blessing and a curse. That said, it'd be pretty cool to hang out with others in the style and just share general modern hacks. It's not as glorious as stealing corporate secrets but you can do a few interesting things with computers and phones. I've been reading android development kits to try and see what sorta modern phreaking is available and it's not been very fruitful. Because you're carrying a tracking device any theft that isn't properly hidden is traced, but there is grey-area 'legal' theft that is available.

Also this >>49097 except the genre will likely be oversaturated and crushed like everything else. Just look at the ready player 1 movie. Weirdly, because cyberpunk is so underground and still cool even the bladerunner remake was fucking actually good. The visuals got a huge boost and the world was a lot more creative, even if the story seemed bare bones.

>>49099

>>49097

> It's not going to happen. I used to nostalgiafag over the glory days of computing that I missed out on, but we all just have to get over it - it's not going to happen.

I was there. I was involved before 'Hackers' was made. That movie sort of changed a lot, but honestly, looking back, I wouldn't want to go back to that world either. I'm not looking for a step back.

> There's nothing really 'cyber' to do because everything's so interconnected and user friendly with no real tangible back end.

We said the same thing before Facebook, and before smartphones. I've lived through several 'waves' between no one knowing what to do with some new tech, then that tech becoming huge, then everyone feeling like there's nowhere to go with it.

> Hacking is synonymous with being a computer nerd now …

I'm definitely not talking about hacking. Hacking is boring to me. Most of the time you get into someone's email, and just realize that they're paid to read it for a reason. You get a table of user/pass info? Great … you can crunch it and get, well, probably more email you'd have to be paid to read.

Fine if that's your thing, but Hacking has its own subculture, and it pre-dates Cyberpunk. Hacking is like being a cat burglar. You're picturing Cat Woman, but in reality, it's Phil from down the street hoping to score some pills.

> That said, it'd be pretty cool to hang out with others in the style and just share general modern hacks.

Sure, but then you're at a 2600 meeting, and trust me, it's more exciting at the local LUG or makerspace. Way more info, way fewer poseurs.

> Because you're carrying a tracking device any theft that isn't properly hidden is traced, but there is grey-area 'legal' theft that is available.

This is a great statement, because I think it really does pose a unique problem that no one in particular is trying to solve.

On my own, I've been building fun little projects, like a really simple mesh-net, an FM broadcast station, wearable computers, etc.

Lots of the stuff I do online, when I'm out and about, is on a single board computer, because I don't need to be connected to the 'net, and I don't need my phone with me, reporting everything I do.

It's just fun, for me, to try to break out of that electronic 'cage' everyone begrudgingly accepts they're in, because they might want to watch something, or listen to some music, while they're out to lunch.

I try to offload that stuff to home made devices that don't need an internet connection to function.

Then I leave my damned phone at home.

A big influence on me was a group I used to follow called the 'Graffiti Research Labs'. It was a sort of club that would come up with different ways to make interactive art that you'd be able to just stick outside, in the place of traditional graffiti.

In that vein, I've done some fun projects, like using ESP8266 to de-auth local wifi, then also set up an access point with captive DNS that routes every page request to a single page.

So, at any time, I could hit a button, and everyone set to connect to any open Wifi would connect to mine, and see my page.

There are lots of low-risk, non-hacking, more in the vein of Graffiti things to explore.

Anyway, I'm working on zines, and art, and all kinds of local stuff like permanent pirateboxes that sit at local places where the managers are cool enough to let you leave something plugged in. I'm focusing local, and avoiding the term 'Cyberpunk', except to admit that it's cyberpunk inspired.

I feel like that's more the sort of thing I'd like to be a part of.

First step toward doing anything cool, though, is to shed this terrible practice of talking like we're living in Cyberpunk 2020, and pretending we're all super-hackers riding ziplines across high-rise roofs. That kinda shit makes me not want to meet people.

Being totally honest, I released some of my work online, and got a bunch of freaks asking me to 'call them from a burner phone', and just cringy bullshit like that, and I decided I'd rather stick local because I can't deal with those fucking social retards.

I'm thinking more along the lines of tagging, and breaking away from phone habit. Not starting a cyber-hacker-revolution or whatever these fucking autists think is going to happen.

>>49101

>I was there. I was involved before 'Hackers' was made.

So was I, but on the other end of the spectrum so to speak. My family was in cybersecurity and got me into it when I was ~9. What I started to see was that everything is so fucking wired, everything about you is traceable, doxing is a joke and security is nothing more than a paint job or motivational poster.

>Hacking is boring to me.

I use it as a catch-all term for using electronics in an way unintended for the end user. Custom roms, removing bluetooths, cracking open app sources to tweak shit, etcetera. Anything you do they don't take too kindly to I guess. It doesn't have to be specifically against another person, it can be person vs machine.

>2600 meeting

Yeah there's a lot of posers everywhere you go. Even I'm kind of a poser, I have a lot to learn when it comes to computers but I live by fake it 'till you make it. At least I'm in the point of the curve where I don't overestimate too much.

I typically do the same thing but with china phones, where I load up huge SD cards and custom roms, delete all the original apps and grab shit from Fdroid then try to make it from there, never built a mini computer like a PI myself but I've been interested in it. I also want to see if this smartwatch I got for my birthday a few years ago can be made a bit more to my liking.

For me, it's always been that I've known there's a wire to everything. Everything is connected somehow, you're not ever really free or alone. Maybe it's not NWO shit where they're watching your monitor with a special chip but every signal you send and recieve is logged somewhere, either by a middle man or you or the other person. You cannot exist without your government mandated number that your parents give you at birth. You are a number, and every number that originates from your number is an alias to that number. When you change your name, it's put under that original number. You're watched from the day you're born.

I've been trying to find a way out of it since forever.

>>49102

> Yeah there's a lot of posers everywhere you go. Even I'm kind of a poser, I have a lot to learn when it comes to computers but I live by fake it 'till you make it.

Here's the thing about that … you only have to 'fake it', because people act like 'it' is important.

Stop trying to be a 'hacker', stop trying to pretend you know some special shit. Focus on what you DO, instead of what you KNOW.

I think that's the thing about hacker culture that turns me away from it. It's all people puffing out their chests, faking it, or even really knowing, but acting like it makes them special, because they COULD do something, even though out of the 100,000 people who are really good with Kali or whatever, only one or two of them every DO anything noteworthy, while the rest of them just deal with impostor syndrome while sitting alone accomplishing nothing.

I feel like, if it's not a part of your job, you're probably just making up for some huge social deficiency in an unhealthy way.

>For me, it's always been that I've known there's a wire to everything…

Yeah, and it's tough to talk about that sense of knowing that you're monitored without looking like a tin-foil hat-wearing nutjob, but it's out there, and it's just sort of annoying, like a shirt that doesn't quite fit, but everyone wears anyway.

You're right, it's not NWO, it's not like anyone cares, but they're still watching, logging, etc … probably just to sell you shit, but so what? Maybe I want to listen to some music without checking in with the fucking cloud? Maybe there are more of us that have had enough of feeling like we're under a microscope? Maybe it's not about the end result of where that data goes, but that it's out there at all?

> I've been trying to find a way out of it since forever.

I have these conversations with people a lot. You're not at all alone, and I think that's the feeling at the center of everything I'm doing.

Not because I think it's all some grand conspiracy, because it's not. I mean, every company, corporation and government is involved, but they're not hiding it.

If the first thing to get away from is lying about bullshit that makes you sound like a cringy teenager, the second thing to get away from is the hacker culture 'elite' syndrome.

I don't want to hang out with those guys. People who think that knowledge, for knowledge sake, makes them cool.

I'd rather hang out with a bunch of barely literate street artists, who actually go out and tag, than a bunch of 'artists' who took a bunch of classes, have a lot of theory, and maybe work a canvas once a year.

It should be more about DOING that KNOWING. Learn what you need to do your thing, then DO IT.

>>49103

Yeah exactly, like a shirt that doesn't fit. The government just sees a bunch of senseless noise, it's not 1984, you're just another number in an infinitely huge crowd of busted bureaucracy but it's still hell. You gotta steal a dead dude's identity to get it done, there's no legal way to start over. We're treated like criminals since the day we're born, with every little fuckup recorded on school record, every tear depression, every interest ADHD, I'm fucking tired of it.

The mentor and jolly rodger, those OG's of hacking airquotes, spoke like total spergs and if you didn't know any better you'd think they were posers. I think the truly downtrodden just want something that doesn't act fake. That's what's so great about a computer. You get what you put in.

I'm not really into tagging or art because I didn't grow up 'urban' like you likely did, I've known my fair share of bad people but it wasn't the same sort of culture. I just want my devices to work for me, to show off a few tricks to people I don't know, then disappear from town without anybody knowing my name. I can sort of achieve that online, do some funny shit then leave, but it's all so simple now. I couldn't grade myself but the things I do are more physical, I'm shit with software. I can hotwire a car or bike for funsies depending on the model, I can fuck with old telephones, I do HAM and love radio shit but it's so bureaucratic (again), and I've got COMPTIA halfway done but I'm just uninterested in renewing/finishing licenses. I sort of just want to disappear lately.

>>49104

>Yeah exactly, like a shirt that doesn't fit…I'm fucking tired of it.

I feel that. I'm not interested in playing pretend, or watching some fucking bullshit show on TV about toppling the system. I just want to feel like, at the very least, I can send a solid middle finger back up the line from time to time.

>I'm not really into tagging or art because I didn't grow up 'urban' like you likely did …

I'm mostly using tagging as a metaphor. For me it's about building systems and putting things out there. Just to feel free from the microscope, or at least if someone is watching, all they'll get is a shot my smiling face mouthing 'fuck you' the whole way.

I think there are a lot of people feeling that, and looking for a way to express it. I feel like there are a lot of people, wishing they were some kind of super-hacker, without having quite figured out what they'd do with that level of proficiency, but imagining they could do something.

Punk wasn't about proficiency. In fact, it was mostly a rebellion against the kind of experimental, highly proficient, music that was being pushed by bigger labels. If it was every really about anything, before being co-opted by the corporate machine, it was really about saying 'Don't feel like you have to be David Gilmore to pick up a guitar.'.

A lot of punk was the DIY attitude that says anyone who grabs some instruments and plays are, inherently, better than the people who don't. Rather than people who will tell you that if you're not talented enough, or creative enough, or well-practiced enough, then you shouldn't embarrass yourself.

Punk started as a way to pick a fight with elitism.

There's a great story about one of the earliest punk shows:

"June 4, 1976 gig at Manchester’s Lesser Free Trade Hall. In the audience were future members of the Buzzcocks Howard Devoto and Pete Shelley (who organized the gig and opened for the Pistols); a nascent version of Joy Division; the two founders of Factory Records Martin Hannet and Tony Wilson; Mark E. Smith of The Fall, Mick Hucknall of Frantic Elevators and much later Simply Red; and a one Steven Patrick Morrissey, who would form The Smiths."

The thing is, none of those people were impressed with what the Sex Pistols were doing. The sex Pistols got on stage, and just did it, and left nearly everyone in the audience thinking 'I could probably do that'.

So, the hacker shit that got really out of hand with 1995's 'Hackers', where it's all about being 'Elite', is the most anti-punk bullshit I can imagine. Your impact on the world isn't likely to show up on your resume, and no one is looking to do this for a job.

I think the Cyberpunk fiction takes characters like Bobby(Count Zero), and puts them in situations where even though they're not the most proficient, they're the people there, in that situation, doing the thing they're doing. Often, it's just someone trying to escape a shit town, that ends up in the hot seat.

It's a genre of fiction that says 'Maybe the people who end up toppling a multi-national crime syndicate aren't the police, or the geniuses, or whoever you've been told is important your whole life, but instead, maybe it's just some guy who came across something interesting and pulled on that thread until the whole system came down'.

Good Cyberpunk should leave you thinking 'I could do that'.

>>49107

What you're suggesting sounds like what they did in Little Brother, with forming a network and doing simple tricks like copying and swapping people's RFID tags.

I could get behind something like that. Maybe a network to teach everyone how to do a simple de-auth or make an FM transmitter, and use them to piss people off.

Anyway, check it out. Kind of a kid's book, but good anyway.

http://craphound.com/littlebrother/Cory_Doctorow_-_Little_Brother.htm

>>49115

so good, read it twice now. Gotta read Homeland soon.

>>50314

Homeland wasn't bad, but it felt somehow less likely by the end. Which is funny, because I'd say everything in Homeland was statistically far more likely than anything from Little Brother.

I do like Corey Doctor's ideas for use in subversive tech. It's not about being a super-hacker. It's not about the things you CAN do, or COULD do, but instead the things you WOULD do.

I think hacking, and hacktivism, is limited by the need for everyone to feel 'elite' about everything. If you stop and look at the biggest leaks that actually hurt the government, it was mostly a case of people who had access for their jobs making copies of things, and sending them out into the world. Hardly mask-wearing super-hackers breaking into top secret installations and stealing sensitive data.

In that vein Doctorow doesn't give us super-hacker characters. His protagonists are people with a good fundamental understanding of technology, and the willingness to leverage it.

In the first book, the two major 'hacks' are installing linux on a popular gaming system, something that was already common practice, but he puts a twist on it by giving people a security minded option. Then they start copying RFID cards, which is another simple trick that anyone can, and everyone does, pull.

I think if you're looking for a more realistic view of 'cyber' protest, you need to read his work and see that it's not about a single ultra-proficient super-hero hacker, it's about finding tech protests that everyone can and will participate in.

I'm not very well informed on cyberpunk clothing buy I value flexibility above all else. I basically wear plain black sports clothing and for the haircut I go with a buzzcut. To get an idea - in the spring/summer I wear running/swimming shorts with a tshirt or a tanktop and a zip up/regular hoodie if it's night and chilly. I hate uncomfortable shoes so I only wear running shoes. A backpack and a cap (only if it's blazing hot) and I'm ready for anything.

>>50376

I don't think 'Cyberpunk Clothing' is a thing, honestly. No one here is wearing tech clothes. Literally, no one I've ever met, is wearing tech clothes.

Cyber has the problem that most of the people who are into it, are so fat that style really doesn't enter into it.

The occasional skinny, or even 'good looking' guys are probably wearing normal clothes and going to a decent job. Having your health together follows with having your life together, and people who have their life together aren't trying to figure out how to dress like an urban ninja.

>>50375

well-said anon.put everything perfectly. It's next on my reading list so will at least give it a shot. Doctorow's writing fascinates me and I definitely felt that way about Little Brother and felt connected to the characters…almost wish I had a gang like that when I was in high school

>>46845

Cory Doctorow is a jew

>>48259

>Most business will think you're a criminal or a terrorist

this is pretty untrue. Plenty of people pay with cash, myself included, and not necessarily for any stick-it-to-the-man type reasons either. I would estimate that 95+% of those who pay with brouzouf do it "just because" and have no ulterior motives. I used to work at a [redacted] place and I'd say around half of the customers paid in cash.

>>47457

Post some self made clothes that look worth wearing. I don't want to look like I am in costume - so buying off the shelf is probably what i am going to do.

>>52341

>a jacket with electronic heating, controlled by smart phone with machine learning to heat the jacket based upon your feedback.

This is the dumbest shit I've read since start of this calendar year.

>>55048

seems high tech high life answer to a first world problem. but as tech gets cheaper, it kinda seems like why not? I'm not willing to shell out hundreds of dollars for that, but if it wasn't an order of magnitude more expensive than a regular jacket, I'd wear it. Even as it is, its still cheaper than that 水 acronym drok.

>>55050

Body produces enough heat to warm itself, you just need better insulation.

>>55057

But the required amount of insulation might be too bulky, expensive or heavy, at which point heating might be more economical. Also, too much insulation is not as easily removed as heating turned down. Machine learning in this is a smart toilet flush tier retarded though.

>>55090

It could be better for things like sleeping bags where you want to remove part of erecting a tent or digging a bivouac, but normal ski jackets are already good to like -15 if you've eaten breakfast

it's gloves and socks that are the things that benefit from electric heating, and surprise surprise those already exist and are reasonably priced and mundane enough that they dont need LE EBIN CYBREPUNCC commercials for them

>Machine learning in this is a smart toilet flush tier retarded though.

agreed, machine learning is not only a meme but this is one of the many cases where it can be replaced by an on-off switch. maybe some kind of temperature controlled setting would be okay (e.g. only turn the heater on if the outside of the jacket hits 0 or something, the sort of thing achievable without even using ICs)

>>48379

just spitballing here, what about a micro camera that would feed to a 1 inch screen fitted on the inside of the jacket, roughly in the spot you'd grab to adjust your collar. maybe you could use a touch sensor to activate the screen.

I don't like the idea of a flashing light, but what about the motion sensor connecting to a dimming LED string that's attached somewhere in the front, perhaps right at the collar on one side. If you could get the dimming synched with the motion sensor, you could have it gleaming like Sting. If you think somebody's following you, check your screen. IF they're walking up particularly quickly, you'd tell by how fast the light brightens.

>>46845

>paying more than 200 USD for a fucking jacket

A'ight chummers. I've come as close as I can to the places that resemble futuristic cities with broken societies, with mega corporations that bend the common wage slave to their will and government officials who avert their gaze because their are also manipulated and payed by such corporations. This is the place where law enforcement walks hand-in-hand with outlaw organizations.

Its as close as I can be to a place with markets offering a diverse and alternative fashion scene, with wards famous for the clothes people wear on their streets.

I know thrift shops are a must, but now that I have more options available, where else do I go? Is there a "brand" I can submit myself to? What are the districts that offer me the real cyber fashion experience?

I see a lot of Japanese on the streets that look like they have walked straight out of a blade runner movie. Where did they buy such garbs?

If there's anyone here with the knowledge I seek, please announce yourself.

>>56577

Where are you?

>>56577

Harajuku, Akiba.

In the (near) future, any real Cyberpunk won't wear any cyber enabled clothes, because he knows that it can get exploited.

>>46845

None is going to talk about utility kilts? they are confy as f&%$ and keep your balls fresh even after many ours in front of your computer or work dealing with lusers who's paswords "didn't weeerk" because of the dam caps lock key.

>>57212

I agree, but only when you want to maintain a low profile, if people subconsciously remember you for use unusual clothings then when you change it even your mother have a strugle to recognize you, if you want to go a bit further, alittle bit of make up, maybe a shave, and voila.

>>57212

>Groan all you want, but that's proper cyb clothing.

Heh, as boring as this style sounds I'm inclined to agree. Every time I go out it's always in low key brandless clothes, neutral colors and such.

>>57212

Eh, it's all about actions anyway. The clothing bit isn't too important as long as you can blend into a crowd.

>>47457

>dressing with copper wire

>cyber

Don't forget to sew microchips too.

>>57271

Just fucking leave RAMs dangling from your backpack zuz.

I actually saw someone do that, it's a bit schway.

>>57216

Talking about actions, a real "cyberpunk attire" should have something useful for a techie guy, like conducts to hide wires or faraday shielded pockets, less about aesthetics and more about functionality, any idea in addition to the mentioned.

>>57308

>moar pockets

Seems about right. Though you'd end up looking more like a backpacker or wannabe military guy that way.

>>57310

Not more pockets, special pockets or compartments, like an inner pocket for the cables of the headphones.

>>57311

Stuff like special pockets for phones or whatever seem to work out fine, but it's generally a pain to deal with headphone cords and such even when the item of clothing is built to accommodate them. Only time I've ever seen that work out was a shitty hoodie a friend had with built-in headphones, and even that eventually broke.

>>57313

Still better than run out of battery every fu%&@ hour

>>47288

>That tanktop

Nice.

The "punk" aspect comes from "beign against of/rebellious". Don't diy shit, it takes time to not make it not look like a costume. You want that brouzouf and time to advocate to whatever you're working at right now.

The rest I guess it depends on your taste. You can go 80's futuristic neon ninja with pockets in the ass. Or get brandless sport clothes with some jeans and a leather jacket, to properly blend with the rest of the population. You don't want to be reconized, look what is commonly used where you live. That's why I sugest the jacket and jeans, if you go full sport, then you'll be "the sports dude".

Whatever you pick, a backpack is the best thing. If you go ninja, have all the pockets outside.

For the security aspect, saddly, the best weapon is yourself. No drone or warning light will compare to a trained mind and a powerfull fist. Maybe blending in the crown and avoiding dark alleys or the night at all is safer, but you do you.

Reducing the amount of info about you is a big aspect for me. If you look average, don't own pets and don't have/update any social media, then you're clean (until you hack a big corporation from their roof or install an artistic techy thing on the street). It's about what is under the hood, and there it should only be an abyss that stares back at you. Something, but not who.

>>57366

Do you buy your clothes at thrift shops?

What does /cyber/ think of the Air Force Tactical boots ? I have never wanted combat boots until they came in grey.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.defense.gov%2F2009%2FJun%2F16%2F2000552340%2F-1%2F-1%2F0%2F090616-F-4487B-001.JPG&f=1&nofb=1

>>46851

>Black leather/tactischway style hasn't been in fashion for a decade at least

You do realize your on /cyber/ and not some fashion board? Cyberpunk clothing is the exact opposite of what is "trendy". God how I hate /fa/ggots

>>57392

I don't give to shits how you dress, though the left guy in the pic hardly looks good. However, if you want to discuss how to dress to look good, you might want to choose another board or site.

Cyberpunk, whatever it is actually supposed to be, definitley isn't about fashionable clothes.

>>57394

>though the left guy in the pic hardly looks good

That's the joke

But why can i have fashionable and practical clothes?

>>57395

You can, just don't massively suck corporate cocks for overpriced junks.

Even better DIY modern clothes from modern materials with objective high ratio price/useful characteristic for you value.

>>57399

Sure i guess

>>57524

Do you need to be flame resistant while riding a bike ?

Everyone wants technical clothes. But julius dean seemed to wear nontechs. But, I guess that doesn't announce /cyber/.

Uniq-Lo, Ministry of Supply make technical business wear.

>>57212

based

>>57778

Yeah that makes sense, basically it has to be practical above all else.

>>47376

Cyberpunk is both of these things. The gutterpunk exists in tension with the billionaire, because the genre has a firm stance on wealth inequality (it's bad and it's getting away from us.)

It's off-base to say that rich IT bros aren't cyberpunk, but it's totally correct to say that cyberpunk is critical of rich IT bros.

>>57785

Pretty much. Sometimes it's nice to have bits of tech integrated into clothing….maybe some way of temperature regulation, maybe something you can turn on and off to jam cellphone signals or set up a static field, whatever, but if it isn't practical there's no reason to have it.

>>47376

lmao what a pathetic larping victim mentality. you niggers still think life is a work of fiction which is why you're all losers with a myopic world view on what cyberpunk "is".

>>57876

Enligthen us, what is cyberpunk?

>>57876

>replying to posts from almost 3 years ago

>>57905

>high tech, low life. that's literally it. fascist megacorps or revolutionary trannies, doesn't matter, both are cyber.

Sooo, exactly what that anon has posted? Because that also boils down to "high tech, low life" (come to think of it, this explanation of cyberpunk is a vague as it gets).

>>46846

Most intresting post in the thread.

>>46845

There are tons of Anti-serveilance clothing options including clothing with false license plates to confuse automatic plate readers, and clothing that confuses facial recognition devices. These are extremely punk, and definitely /cyber/ but a little to much edge for me.

I might keep the face mask after COVID dies down, maybe in black.

Since my country is possibly becoming a hostile area (read: curfews and shit like that, no way in hell i'm abiding by that) i'm looking for clothing that allows me to move more covertly at night. Tips?

>>46846

>>46847

>>46851

>>47195

>>47288

>>57392

>>57524

back to /r/edt ya corpfag consumers;

use som' quality urban camo and someth' with a space for things not fuckin' fashion-rich kids stuff

more like this

>>47368

>>57392

Caring about such vain and superficial things is very much being a fag. It's not different than using makeup to feel pretty.

>>46845

Even if I had that jacket, I wouldn't be able to use it like him.

>>58118

oh fuck those shazbots are really threatening with a curfew. lads I need tips ASAP

I'm looking for highly water resistant clothing, because I want to take walks in the rain at night. Tips?

>>49092

>>49079

We already live in a cyberpunk future, its just a boring one

Those books and tabletop games that started this were done mostly by people who didnt know shit about computers or the att nascent internet, afaik only the author of snowcrash was in IT, neuromancer was written on a fucking typewriter even when people were already using computers to write shit. That book was hugely influential in the scene despite being a complete LARP.

Back to the point

>I have a fantasy that, instead, people will making zines, and meshnets, and piratebox networks, and personal radio stations, or whatever.

Tons of people are already doing that, tho less than before, why? because the FOSS community got coopted/cucked by big corps putting their employees there, see the cunt that got Linus kicked out from the very OS he created, same cunt who wanted to add a piece of msft spyware on linux, a cunt employed by msft, what a coincidence

As I said we live in a boring version of cyberpunk: megacorps do exist but they dont have to spy on anybody because people literally hand over their data for free. Spiderbots with cameras? why if normalfaags pay for the privilege of having a camera doorbell connected to corporate servers and streaming 24/7? or indoors cameras doing the same? normalfaags pay for smart speakers, literally a bunch of microphones recording what you do

Lots of those guys in the DIY scene buy into this shit, they build shit to work with alexa instead of helping the mycroft project which is a FOSS AI, they contribute to corporate tools like react and unreal and tons more instead of libre software

Hackers? you got some groups in the former soviet blocs, they are 100% owned and supported by local mafias and do nothing but run small ramsomware scams to z-list companies and government agencies, sometimes to normalfaags who cant afford backups or proper security. Much easier than going against the big corps and governments that will put a bullet between their eyes for fucking with them, assuming they even get pass their firewalls.

There are no augments just alpha implants like neuralink that might trigger a grandmal and fucking kill you. Robots are little more than roombas shifting through warehouses, glorified RC helicopters and the like. You're more likely to get killed by an overweight cop guard than a corporate killbot, unless you live in some warzone in which case its not you running away from some terminator but getting a missile from a drone powered by a lawnmower engine flying so high up you cant even see it.

Then theres the great reset, a consortium of billonaires basically saying you wont be able to own shit and will have to rent everything, a return to feudalism really, and normalfaags are okay with this. Even in cyberpunk novels the majority of the people were against the system even if too poor to do anything about it, but now we welcome corporate dystopia with likes and retweets

Its all so lame, so fucking lame

>>55050

I'd rather steal one of those jackets and gut it to know exactly how the tech works so I can get rid of the shit that connects to your smartphone and just rebuild it into a more comfortable tactical vest or jacket and put the plans online for whoever the fuck else is interested in it. Winters get fucking cold here in Canada and I can see the tech being of use to people who have to work outdoors or in variable environments. Construction workers, repairmen, soldiers, security guards, etc.

But nobody in their right mind is going to pay for that fucking garbage and the trend of connecting everything to your phone is mindbogglingly retarded to me. Put a fucking button or dial on it.

>>58236

>tfw dead board

>>58236

Check out Krakatau wear.

I bought a jacket from them. They have som pretty 水 stuff.

And I agree. This board needs to wake tf up. I used to love hanging around here.

>>58239

>That book was hugely influential in the scene despite being a complete LARP.

Yeah, I love that book. Need to read it again soon, but you're right. It reads like how a boomer would imagine 'hacking'

in the future to look like. The descriptions and the atmosphere is top notch, but the cyberspace portions have more in common with fantasy than with science fiction. Fascinating to think that this book got the cyberpunk genre rolling. But I believe it has more to do with the societal trends of the 80s, which the author magnificently extrapolated on.

>>58279

>those prices

Jesus fucking christ. And their coats don't exactly look extremely rain resistant either.

>>58282

The seams are glued and taped. Not a drop gets through my jacket. About the prices, I guess it depends from person to person, but I don't find them unreasonably expensive.

>>58283

What type of jacket do you have?

>>58283

It's a parka.

>>58284

>>58285

Interesting.

>>46845

https://discord.gg/qRZS6K36bb