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 No.28346 [View All]

Lets talk about mobile hacker gear.

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 No.45555

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>>45525

I never grokked predictive text on candybar or clam phones. Still can't. Though I use swiftkey on my Android these days. ALWAYS went for full QWERTY phones. I had a 5510 too once.

Hell, I had a Sharp Zaurus with custom rom for wardriving back in 2003-2004. THAT was cool.

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 No.45556

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>>45555

>pic related

Dead tech now though.

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 No.45576

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>>45555

Checked!

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 No.45624

>>28567

>ignition

pretty sure we're talking bicycle here. low cost, quiet, easier to stash, no license/tax.

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 No.45625

Can we have some tech that is 2000+ and NOT a disaster waiting to happen?

Then again that might be a troublesome category…

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 No.46350

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DIY Punk Cyber-headphones

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 No.47650

zsfvf Fszv fSD faFa F

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 No.47655

>>45625

>>46350 didn't listen

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 No.47656

>>45556

Schway as fuck. Do those things really don't exist no more?

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 No.47658

>>47655

He's listening … to the future!

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 No.47662

>>28747

just shave or wax your arms then lol

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 No.47706

>>32170

>>35023

You don't have to know much about technology to like/be cyberpunk. There was a poll on the r/Cyberpunk subreddit asking users how good they were with computers and the majority of fans were there for the aesthetic and mood of cyberpunk, not the in-depth technological aspect. Even William Gibson is actually pretty poor with computers, he writes his books on a typewriter.

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 No.47707

>>47706

But in-universe his characters were all technically apt.

Similarly, in-universe, we should be technically apt. Go learn.

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 No.47732

>>47706

Oh, well if /r/Cyberpunk, the biggest shithole on the internet, says so …

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 No.47734

Imagine turning the old powerglove into a portable computer, That'll look nice and I suppose it'll hold some function to it.

Most likely already been done though.

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 No.47735

>>47734

I don't think anyone has made it into an actual portable computer … yet. There have been several projects to turn it into different, much better, controllers.

If you wanted to make it into a computer, I imagine a Pi-zero, or similar SBC for around $10 could be used. it wouldn't be very hard.

Where would you mount the screen? Maybe it should run up a cable to a pair of glasses and use a micro-display, like old Cyberpunk drawings.

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 No.47741

>>47735

Yeah that isn't a bad idea actually, When I find some time I'll give something of the sort a shot, Will create a thread if I succeed.

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 No.47749

>>47741

Create a thread with drawings, and update it as you make progress. This place could use someone actually doing something.

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 No.47880

I've been wondering about tablets. While they have little in the way of attachments, they seem powerful enough by themselves. Wifi scanner, onboard battery, outlet rechargable. It's basically wearable tech, or can be carried in a binder. But what I'm wondering is about "what ELSE can it do?" If the Power Pwn can fit on a Power Pwn, then it's software set should be able to bit on a tablet. When there's nobody to ask, then it's up to yourself to see what on the other side of someone's system. Just harmlessly, mind you.

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 No.47898

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>>47732

I just went there to see what's new, and they had a thread about a female android concept made for Hyundai, and all 140 comments were just jokes and nervous laughter about sex robots.

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 No.47901

>>47880

Making a tablet into a useful computer would be huge just on its own. Slashdot for example is always losing its shit over them being content delivery devices instead of tools. Provide a new means of input that can actually compete with a physical keyboard and you just invented the new age of computing.

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 No.47902

>>47901

You don't need better input devices, you need better utilization of existing ones.

The problem with tablets is entirely in programming.

But both major players on the market are more interested in selling you shovelware through their app stores than making usable devices, and everyone else is trying to ape their business model without thinking.

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 No.47916

>>47902

I thought someone might say something like this. Android and iOS suck, but even if you installed a Linux-like OS on a phone, there's nothing that makes it worth using vs. a laptop. Lugging around a portable keyboard and propping your phone up against your leg to program doesn't strike me as easier or better than just bringing a laptop.

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 No.47917

>>47916

I believe it is possible to make touch screen interfaces work, we just need a paradigm shift or something.

Installing linux is just a first step on a long path towards it.

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 No.48575

>>32153

link on how ?

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 No.48576

>>47916

I think the issue with your statement isn't that you're wrong, but rather that you assume people would want to use a wearable computer for the same things they use a laptop for.

In practice, I set my wearable up with things that I don't want to pull a laptop out. SDR, WiFi monitoring, quick message scroll, etc. If I want to type more than a few commands, the laptop needs to come out.

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 No.48740

>>28812

it's literally a helmet you geek

get a plastic one from varusteleka

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 No.50302

Hi looking for a hacker to hire

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 No.50306

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>>28812

Google Universarium for reference pictures. Building something that looks like this on a flipped stahlhelm shouldn't be too hard.

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 No.52805

ahyva

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 No.55134

>>32646

You don't understand enough yet about how things work to understand why this is an issue.

Windows as a platform makes up billions of lines of code delivered to you in binary where an ordinary human cannot understand wtf its doing. If you had millions of man-hours of expertise, you could theoretically reverse engineer it - but absolutely no one ever will re the whole project.

You can do low end checks, like a user mentioned using netstat, but 1.) How do you know net stat isn't backdoored? or perhaps the kernel is backdoored not to show connections to spy.microsoft.com etc.or more likely 2.) How do you know spying doesn't use existing legitimate channels and obfuscate information? Your computer makes routine connections to microsoft owned servers all of the time - and many of of these are known spying.

Its not controversial to say Microsoft is spying on you - they are. They admit as much, they have unique domains for as much. Its not controversial to say you can't disable this - You can't - they admit as much. They say it is for "quality assurance purposes" and your computer will send "basic feedback" and telemetry, regardless of what you want.

Whats more controversial is does the existing spying extend BEYOND commercial interest - Does Microsoft collect interesting data for the government, or provide the government access to computers through backdoors? There are all kinds of reasons to think so:

First, Microsoft is a large company subject to US government pressure, and has "backdoored" products like skype to provide government access around encryption. Post snowden, there isn't much reason to think this isn't routine behavior for the US government. CALEA requires comms providers make information accessible to US gov, unless they don't have access to it themselves, apparently, asking corps to engineer a backdoor isn't against the rules. FBI tried to force that with Apple over San Beridino terrorists phone. The US Government, and all other governments are aware of this behavior and in response are trying to nationalize their technology stacks (cf. China building their own CPU, North Korea building a linux distribution, Russia creating its own crypto suite including new crypto alorithms, US government trying to ban kaspersky and huwei, Russia demanding to review OS X source code).

Second, Microsoft has notably delayed patching Windows to allow government to exploit 0days. (cf. Stuxnet). There is good reason to think Taylor Access Operations of NSA, and other similiar government teams are well integrated with security operations of private ISVs.

Third, Previous leaks of Windows Symbol tables have include NSA_*_KEY as symbol.

Your OS vendor has root on your machine. Microsoft is spying on you for quality assurance purposes. They have bowed to government pressure before. Every other government seems to be aware of this and suspicious. Would you give microsoft root?

I wouldn't.

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 No.55136

>>33898

>It turns out that a megacorp's economies of scale and willingness to use proprietary tech give it a leg up on a bunch of amateur free software nuts in enhancing a system's performance/price ratio.

This is true, but some of those structural economic forces are changing! CPU performance has been improving at 3.5% / yr compared to a historic rate of sometimes as high as 25%. This means that an open source system is now more viable than ever, because despite a longer design time for amatuer engineering, it will remain viable for much longer.

>>47901

>Making a tablet into a useful computer would be huge just on its own

They could be useful computers except for the fact that they are designed not to be. You can't run arbitrary executables, and are stuck building "apps". Blue tooth keyboards and (kick) stands exist.

>>48576

The real problem with wearable computers! They don't do anything. People are pretty much not at the point where they are walking and seriously computing at the same time. Pretty much any time you want to seriously work, you want to sit down. The best use case any one has come up with so far is essentially a mobile phone or a notification/sensor for mobile phone (smart watch).

>>28346

Give me a google glass augmented reality heads up display.

These glasses are pretty 水:

>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ivancash/irl-glasses-glasses-that-block-screens

They use polarizers to block video from advertisements.

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 No.55395

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I got to thinking about cyberdecks again today, and found this one that some ledditor made. There's a description here: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3004669

A lot has changed since I last posted in this thread (in 2015). 3d printing is a lot cheaper, and there are much better peripherals out there. Second pic related is a $200 display that, although mediocre in quality, will apparently put out 1080p. Scale fonts up, and you could easily get a usable terminal for hacking the Gibson. You don't even have to use the shazbot hipster glasses, it'll just clip onto anything of a similar size. An Intel NUC, a custom case, a tenkeyless mechanical keyboard (you can even buy the PCBs and solder the switches yourself), a small display that folds down or slides out, and you could have a very powerful cyberdeck - comparable to a modern laptop - at a surprisingly low cost.

I'm getting really tempted to drop brouzouf on a 3d printer now.

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 No.55413

>>33491

I wonder if sign language(the one that deaf use) would work, especially if adapted for motion recognition algorithms, along with a more technologically sound language. Though even just basic analog of arrow keys that is simple to use would be superb, that's the main partgamepads use 2 sets of them, ffs, and you get a semifunctional gaming device for brainlets, what is better as a base?

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 No.55418

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>>55395

3d printers are 100% tech woo. Anything you could make on them, you could probably make from off-the-shelf housings/fittings/etc for cents rather than dollars.

And even if you disagree with that, why drop all your spacecash on a printer when makerspaces exist that let you use them for reasonable prices, and many schools have some set up for students that you could take advantage of (by either being a student, which isn't unlikely in this demographic, or by paying one a box of beer to do it for you)

>>47898

i love animne land

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 No.55419

also I must say that a lot of the stuff itt looks like gay shit for retards that will never work with anything

just use a fuckin' laptop! im with >>28512 on this one, these ridiculous DEKZ aren't sneaky nor are they any more portable than, say, an older smartphone with a keyboard that you can load up with pen testing apps, and maybe some network security tools while you're at it

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 No.55949

>>28346

Why not just use a Bluetooth keyboard with your phone?

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 No.56068

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>>55419

>>55949

>come to a thread about homemade computers based on fictional, pre-www vr machines

>why not just plug a chiclet keyboard into your iphone

Glad you could stop by.

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 No.56072

>>55949

I tried a few bluetooth keyboards with phones and they all had horrible input lag.

Also, bluetooth is insecure, give me cable or give me death.

Also also, phones are botnet.

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 No.56078

How about getting cheap metal siding, flattening it out and cutting it into the right shapes, then welding/screwing the pieces together?

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 No.56096

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 No.56116

>>56096

Damn that's shocking

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 No.56117

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>>56072

Huh that's strange, I've never had any issues with input lag.

This is the keyboard I use.

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 No.56184

>>56117

I use a generic Logitech wireless keyboard and mouse set and have noticed no lag except in some videogames and even then only on occasion, and usually that's an indicator that i need new batteries.

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 No.56196

>>56184

>generic Logitech wireless

>wireless

The one with dongle that you plug into usb?

Those are not bluetooth though.

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 No.56620

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>>28812

What >>28813 said. 3D printing is the way to go, I printed this in about 5 pieces and worked it together. I was going to use it in a movie or short film but I never worked out a story for it. I want to make it 水 by putting screens on the inside and adding some lights behind the eye slits, lack of brouzuf and tech keeps me from going further with it currently. I haven't taken the time to learn the 3D modeling yet but if you got me a model I could probably make a shell.

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 No.56666

>>56096

>giantass setup

>completely noticeable and needs close range

>can't seem to pick up typing at a speed higher than an arthritic granny

Can't say I'm worried.

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 No.56723

>>56620

If you've got a shell to create and no 3D printer access, or it's too large to print, there's always Pepakura. In that case you use a normal printer to put your design on cardstock and glue the tabbed edges together to assemble your model, then use fiberglass resin to stiffen it up. It's a slightly orthogonal skillset to most 3D printering shit, but it is good for doing cheapshit or big shapes.

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 No.58200

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 No.58201

Cyberdecks are schway, but kind of a meme anymore. Laptops and even palmtops are a thing. I'd rather have a wrist mounted computer.

I already have a banana pi m2 zero, just looking for decent touchscreen options under 4''.

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