No.4852 [Last50 Posts]
From the discussion started here >>4806
This is a thread for the discussion of fantasies about being in/having an old-school harem. topics of discussion include:
>logistics of a harem
>ethics of a harem
>life in a harem
And last but definitely not least
>sexy thoughts, fantasies, and erotic stories about being in/having a harem
What would harem life be like for you?
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No.4858
I wonder what it would be like for a new girl to be introduced to a harem. Like being thrown into a shark tank probably with all the girls desperate to help prepare her for the first time with their man.
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No.4867
>>4852
>What would harem life be like for you?
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No.4868
>>4867
Oh damn! We got ourselves a comedic genius here!
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No.4890
>>4858
>You are the teenage daughter of a craftsman
>Your father makes a sufficient sum of money to keep you fed and keep you out of the weaving houses that several of your friends have had to join to make ends meet
>He is trying to find you a husband who will be able to provide for you like he has, but he hasn’t settled on anyone yet
>You trust your father, but you’re anxious about his choice
>Hopefully the guy is at least cute
>One day, however, the choice is taken out of his hands
>Word spreads that the emperor is going to be passing through town
>People line the streets to see his carriage paraded through, yourself among them
>You have heard rumors that this new emperor is immensely attractive, even more so than his late father who was something of a legend amongst the women of the empire
>You know you won’t be able to see him, however, because the windows of his carriage are covered with curtains so that nobody can see in
>The right to look upon the emperor is afforded only to a select few
>The parade goes by
>Tall, hairy soldiers march in perfect lockstep, carrying weapons you’re not even sure you could lift
>Horses prance by, and a stunning array of dancing girls
>Then the emperor’s carriage comes into view
>It is magnificent, jet black and covered with masterfully crafted patterns and ornaments made of real gold, pulled by no less than eight horses
>You peer at the window, hoping to sneak a peek inside, but the window is completely obscured
>Suddenly, the carriage driver leans his ear into a horn-like thing coming out of the top of the carriage
>He nods, then bellows out some command that you don’t understand
>The rest of the parade must get it though, because they each in turn shout the same command farther up the line and the whole parade comes to a halt
>Around you, your fellow citizens look around confused
>The carriage door opens and two female warriors step out
>To your surprise they walk over to you and flank you
>The rest of the crowd shrinks away, leaving you feeling very vulnerable
>You have heard of this before but it’s so surreal to think that it’s happening to you that you can’t quite accept it
>The only thing this could mean is that the emperor has taken a liking to you, and has decided you are to join his harem effective immediately
>To refuse is treason, the punishment is death
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No.4891
>>4890
That's weird, I've never had the clipboard automatically paste into an image like that.
>It has been a long, uncomfortable ride
>The female warriors had guided you to a smaller carriage behind the emperor’s, and you had ridden in that carriage, scared and confused, for several days, only occasionally being allowed out for bathroom breaks
>You are now at the palace
>You have always wanted to go here, but this is not the circumstance you would have chosen for yourself
>You try to figure out for the millionth time why the emperor chose you
>Doesn’t he usually prefer fully-bosomed exotic women?
>That’s the rumor you’ve heard at least
>One of the female warriors who has been escorting you shows you to a hall guarded by even more women
>At the end of the hall are a massive set of doors
>You take a deep breath, steel yourself, and walk through
>You are met with a wave of commotion as the women who are your new harem sisters see you
>”Oh look! We have a new sister ladies!”
>How adorable she is! I can see how his highness took a shine to her”
>The rumors were not wrong, you look incredibly out of place here
>Every woman in the room is naked, save for some jewelry and the occasional piece of some kind of see-through fabric
>They are all taller and much better endowed than you, and several of them look like they come from strange foreign lands
>It’s more than a little intimidating as they start to mill around you, several of them touching your face and body, commenting on what a cute specimen you are
>Suddenly the crowd parts and the most beautiful and terrifying woman you have ever seen walks up to you
>She easily over six feet, with perfect breasts the size of melons and a brownish skin that marks her as having come from some southern land
>She is muscular for a woman, but not unfeminine
>she wears only a simple golden chain around her waist with some of that see-through fabric hanging over her toned backside and another chain that runs from a piercing on her left nipple, around her body, and to another piercing on her navel
>This can only be the emperor’s favorite
>”Take off her clothing,” the favorite commands, “let me get a good look at her”
>Despite your protests, the other women begin to strip you down
>Once they finish, you stand there, the shortest woman in the room with the flattest chest and the palest skin
>You somehow manage to feel even more naked than you are, even though you are not wearing a scrap of clothing
>The favorite walks up to you and puts a hand on your cheek
>”You are absolutely precious, aren’t you?”
>You’re not sure how to respond
>”Are you frightened?”
>You nod
>”Poor thing. Don’t you worry, I’m going to keep you close to me and nothing will happen to you, okay?”
>Another harem girl walks up with a selection of accessories to give you, like the ones that the other girls are wearing, but the favorite shoos her away
>“I don’t think we’ll need those this time” she says
>Then, she grabs you by the hand and leads you to the area where the girls spend most of their time
>It’s a massive room with pillows and chaises all over the place
>In one corner there is a large communal heated bath in which several of the girls are relaxing
>The favorite leads you to one of the piles of pillows and sits down, setting you on her lap
>She wraps her arms around you, holding you as though you are a child
>The feeling of her skin against your skin is strange; you’re unable to decide if you like it
>”This is where you’ll live from now on” she explains
>”The emperor comes in here several times a day”
>”Occasionally he will even stay here for a few days”
>”He satisfies his urges with multiple women every time he comes, but I am almost always among the selection”
>You listen to the favorite as she explains this
>You’re more than a little anxious, thinking that as the emperor’s new toy you might be selected right away
>You sit there with the favorite for a while, kind of wishing she would let go, until a horn sounds and all the girls begin to scramble
>The emperor is coming
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No.4892
>>4891
>You’re so afraid of what’s coming that tears begin to leak out of your eyes
>The favorite sees this and smiles
>”Don’t worry, if you’re not ready yet I’ll make sure the emperor doesn’t take you. I have a good bit of sway over him”
>”Just do as I say, and he’ll leave you alone”
>She instructs you to get on your elbows and knees
>You’re not sure what she has in mind, but you comply
>Your ass is in the air, you’re worried that the favorite might be setting you up somehow, but you don’t have much in the way of options
>Suddenly her hands cover your eyes and she straddles you.
>You have no idea what she’s doing, but she’s much bigger than you are and you couldn’t move her if you wanted to
>You hear the emperor walk in
>You hear the sound of a body being thrown onto a chaise, and you hear a rhythmic thumping sound begin
>A woman’s voice moans with pleasure
>You listen intently
>You can’t move and you can’t see, so all you can do is listen to the heavy breathing and the wet sound of lips meeting and the slap of skin on skin
>The woman sounds like she’s overcome with pleasure
>You find yourself getting wet as you listen to her
>The moans reach a crescendo, and she lets out a final cry of ecstasy
>You hear he heavy, satisfied breathing after she has finished
>You hear the footsteps of a man walking towards you
>Whispers, some in the voice of a man and some in the voice of the favorite reach your ears
>You can’t quite make it out, but she seems to be giving him some kind of explanation
>Then, you feel the air move behind you stirring up a breeze on your naked ass and pussy
>Then there is a shifting sensation in above you
>You realize that the emperor has just put his cock in the favorite
>He begins to thrust, slowly at first, then harder and harder
>In your ear the favorite’s breath becomes heavier and happier
>The force of each thrust travels through the favorite’s body and into yours
>Her breasts lie on your back, you feel how hard her nipples are, feel them scrape across your skin a little with each motion of the emperor’s hips
>You want so badly to touch yourself, but you need your arms to support all the weight.
>“Please cum,” You hear the favorite moan, “please cum and fill my cunt with your royal seed”
>The pounding gets so hard that it takes all your strength to stop from falling over
>You hear the sound of release in the breath of both the emperor and the favorite
>You feel him pull out, and you feel a hot dribble of his cum running out of the favorite’s pussy onto your ass
>You stay there for more than an hour, listening to him fuck several more women until he finally leaves
That's all I've got for now. Should I continue?
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No.4893
>>4868
>mudslimes in charge of evaluating comedy
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No.4894
>>4893
I'm not a towelhead, dumbass, you just aren't funny.
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No.4896
>>4894
I dunno man, it got a chuckle out of me.
Then again, I'm a /pol/ack
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No.4897
>>4892
A thousand times YES
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No.4900
>>4890
>>4891
>>4892
should I continue, nigga is that even a question? of course you should!
>>4896
>I'm a /pol/ack
I've got a question.
Are you that same person who keeps mentioning in nearly every thread they browse /pol/? Maybe I've just been really unlucky with which threads I look up on this board but there always seems to be one around and I'm wondering if it's always you or if it's a coincidence that three or more /pol/acks are regulars here.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, just sounds like you're trying to show off, and I say that as a fellow /pol/tard :^)
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No.4901
>>4900
8chan is practically /pol/chan plus couple of hundred muh PR niGGers.
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No.4902
>>4901
Right, so why does it keep getting mentioned in every thread like it's special?
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No.4903
>>4902
> why does it keep getting mentioned in every thread like it's special?
Because triggered goons.
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No.4905
>>4900
Nah, this is the first time I've ever brought it up.
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No.4906
>>4897
>>4900
Aight, here we go
>You have been in the harem for two weeks now
>You still have never seen the emperor’s face, because every time he comes to the harem either the favorite or one of the other girls covers your eyes
>The favorite tells you that if you’re not going to be fucked by the emperor you shouldn’t be allowed to see him
>The girls of the harem, and the favorite especially, treat you as though you were some sort of pet
>Whenever you try to sit on a chaise or a pillow, they claim seniority and run you off
>You are forced for the most part to sit on the hard floor
>The only exception to this is if you allow one of the girls to set you on her lap or spoon with you on a chaise
>The absolute worst part of your time in the harem is that you haven’t been able to touch yourself at all
>There’s no privacy anywhere, there aren’t even stalls in the restroom
>All the girls sleep on four massive beds
>Because the emperor has expanded the harem so much in recent years, the beds are getting crowded
>As the lightest, you have to sleep on top of the other girls
>Once or twice you’ve tried to touch yourself when the other girls are asleep, but you suspect that the favorite has instructed some of the girls to stay up and keep watch on you
>Every time you’ve tried your hand has been smacked away and one of the girls has whispered harshly in your ear that no harem sister is allowed to cum except by the emperor or each other
>You’ve become desperate
>You prostrate yourself before the favorite and beg her to allow the emperor to fuck you
>You’re no longer anxious about having sex with him
>Your desire for release is so strong that everything else seems unimportant
>”If you wanted to perform your duties you should have done so immediately. Now you’re just going to have to suffer the consequences” the favorite tells you
>You plead to at least have another girl bring you to orgasm with her mouth
>You haven’t ever really been physically interested in other women before, but you’ve seen your harem sisters do this to each other several times and by now you’re willing to do anything
>”You’ll have to ask the other girls about that” the favorite says, with a smirk on her face that the other girls all mirror
>It seems that you are the only one not in on a joke
>Sure enough, every girl you ask to get you off refuses, even when you offer to do the same for them
>Frustrated and hornier than you have ever been in your entire life, you sit down on the hard floor with your back against the wall
>Some of the other girls in the room are licking each other even now, as if to taunt you
>You squeeze your legs together in a vain attempt to stifle the screams for attention that your cunt is sending to your brain
>You bury your face in your knees and sob
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No.4907
>>4906
>Another week goes by, and you begin to wonder if you can possibly maintain your sanity
>It’s now clear beyond a reasonable doubt that the other girls are torturing you
>At night when you’re trying desperately to get to sleep, they get handsy with you
>They touch your breasts, your tummy, your ass, your inner thigh, everywhere except your pussy
>Needless to say, you haven’t had a good night’s sleep in a very long time
>Every day you are forced to watch the others pleasure each other
>Every day you are forced to listen to listen to the other girls getting the sex you so desperately crave from the emperor
>Sometimes the other girls hold you while they’re being fucked so that you can feel the force of each thrust
>You long to call out to the emperor, to ask for him to show you the same attention he shows the others, but to ask for sex from the emperor without first being chosen is a death sentence
>As you become more and more of an emotional wreck, the favorite only seems to be taking pleasure in your suffering
>The other girls sometimes act sympathetic, but they never disobey the favorite
>Eventually you can’t take it anymore
>It’s a day like any other
>The emperor has come in
>The favorite is lying on her back
>She is holding you to her, pinning you against her face-down with her strong hands
>The emperor samples a few of the other girls first
>Your pussy throbs more painfully with the sound of each thrust
>Then comes the worst part
>The emperor decides it’s the favorite’s turn
>He climbs on top of her to fuck her in the missionary position
>You are sandwiched in between them
>You feel his hard muscles on your back and her soft breasts on your front
>You’re dripping juices all over her, and your fingers and toes are clinched with the effort to not scream
>It’s no use
>”Please!” you suddenly shout
>The motion stops, the room goes dead silent
>You can feel the eyes of every person in the room boring into you
>You start to sob uncontrollably, your body heaving with each breath
>”Please what?” comes the voice that can only belong to the emperor from above you
>There’s a hint of a threat in it, reminding you of the severity of what you are doing
>”P-please, your h-highness. P-please give me your dick”
>”I know I’m not s-supposed to ask you and I d-don’t care if you k-kill me for it later, but p-please let me feel an orgasm j-just one last time. I b-beg you…”
>For a moment the only sound in the room is that of your rasping sobs
>”Turn her around” the emperor commands the favorite
>You are sure that this is the end
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No.4908
>>4907
>The favorite flips you over and for the first time you see the emperor
>You are so awestruck that you actually stop crying for a moment
>He is a thing of beauty, eyes the color of an evening storm and lips that look like they were crafted just to be kissed
>His hair is dark and his body looks as though it should be a marble statue
>He has pulled out of the favorite, and you see his dick
>It is big and thick and hard like a rock
>He lets it hover in front of your face, and you obediently take it into your mouth
>The strong flavors of many different women dance on your tongue and in your nostrils
>”You understand the punishment for trying to solicit sex from the emperor is death, even if you’re in his harem?” he asks you.
>You nod with tears in your eyes and continue sucking
>”And yet you ask anyway?”
>You nod again
>You try to get his entire cock in your throat, but there’s just too much
>You figure you might as well savor this while you have the time
>Suddenly, his face softens.
>He puts his hand on your forehead and gently withdraws from your mouth
>You lick the tip as it exits, trying to get one last taste of skin and pussy juice
>He kneels down and looks you in the eye, stroking your cheek
>”You’ve really been through the wringer, huh?”
>”I hope you won’t be too angry with my favorite. She was only following my orders”
>”I have a very specific type you see, but recently I’ve been thinking of expanding my horizons”
>”I chose you because you looked so sweet and innocent that I knew I just had to make an obedient little slut out of you”
>”Of course, that required you to be broken down before you could be reforged into a perfect harem girl”
>”If your desire for cock has become greater than your desire for life, however, I think that the time has come…”
>Suddenly, He grabs you and hoists you into the air
>He holds you to his torso, and slowly lowers you onto his cock
>You are on such a hair-trigger right now that you have an orgasm by the time he’s halfway inside of you
>As he begins to bounce you up and down another orgasm causes your whole body to shudder and you scream with delight
>He carries you over to a chaise where he lays you on your back and fucks you so hard that you flop around like a rag doll
>It hurts, but you don’t care
>You’ve never felt so good in your life
>The favorite walks over to you and plants a kiss on your lips
>”That’s a good girl” she tells you
>You remember the frustration you’ve felt towards her for the past few weeks, but right now you couldn’t hold a grudge if you tried
>She climbs up on the chaise and swings her leg over your head
>Heat radiates from her vagina onto your face
>You taste her cunt, she’s still sopping wet
>Up above you you can hear her and the emperor kissing passionately
>You feel the tongues of some your harem sisters begin to tease your nipples
>You feel as though you’re going to explode
>So you do
>You have orgasm after orgasm
>You didn’t even realize it was possible to be this pent up, but you have been so horny for so long without any recourse that your body reacts to every little stimulus as though it were the climax of an hour of sex
>You can’t think, you can hardly breathe
>Just as you think you can’t possibly handle anymore the emperor gives one final thrust and you feel the warmth of his cum seeping into your body
>You cum with him and your back arches violently
>It’s a miracle you don’t bite down on the favorite’s labia
>The favorite climbs off and cuddles with you as you try to catch your breath
>She wipes a dribble of semen from your thigh with her fingers and brings it up to your mouth
>You suck it off, then turn your face to hers
>You stick the cum into her mouth with your tongue, and the two of you swap it back and forth a few times before you finally swallow it with immense satisfaction
>It was worth it
>It was all worth it
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No.4909
>>4908
>A year has gone by
>You are now the new favorite
>The old favorite has become your best friend
>She’s not mad about losing her position at all, because she still gets the emperors dick more than you or any other girl
>Quantity of sex is not what you’re the favorite for
>The emperor still hasn’t come in today
>He shouldn’t be long
>You are licking the old favorite, running your tongue around her clitoris, causing her fingers to squeeze your hair as she guides your head
>Your own pussy begs for attention, and you are sorely tempted to touch it
>Two of your sisters are holding your wrists, however, as per your orders
>”Only another two weeks to go, right?” the old favorite asks
>You pull back so you can talk to her
>”Three. I’m going for a new record” you inform her
>She rubs her foot on your inner thigh causing you to wince as the temptation to touch yourself becomes almost unbearable
>Thank goodness your wrists are restrained
>”The emperor will be disappointed”
>”He won’t be when the time comes” I reply
>”Any special requests for what I should do with his highness today? She inquires.
>”Do you think he’d be strong enough to lift you up and fuck you against the wall?”
>”Of course he would”
>”Do that then, and make sure he takes a good variety of girls today. I want his dick to taste extra strong when he’s done” I command.
>”As you wish” she reaches a hand down and plays with your nipple
>You writhe, unable to control yourself
>Suddenly the horn sounds
>The emperor is coming
>The old favorite gives you a kiss, then stands up
>”Wish me luck” she says
>”I’ll be the one who needs it” I tell her
>”You don’t know the half of it” she smirks, then walks over to greet the emperor, her hips swaying beautifully from side to side “If you’re not careful you might come just from watching”
>You sit down on a chaise with the girls who are holding your arms sitting on either side of you
>They each hook a leg around one of your thighs and force your legs open
>You won’t even be able to squeeze them together to try to stifle the unrelenting throbbing
>Each one takes their free hand and plays with one of your breasts
>You whimper softly
>The doors fly open
>In walks the emperor
>He’s in impressive form today
>He goes from one girl to another, never leaving one unsatisfied but managing to push through with his almost inhuman endurance
>And yes, he was absolutely able to fuck the old favorite against the wall
>As each girl screamed with joy at her climax the throbbing between your legs becomes more and more unbearable
>You master yourself
>Cumming now is not an option, no matter how hard your body might be trying to with all the excitement and nipple stimulation
>Just three weeks, you’d just have to tough it out three more weeks
>You’ll put them all to shame
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No.4920
>>4900
>>4902
I'm not that anon, but I did say it another thread. I said it because multiple wives can lead to many more white children. I'm not surprised there's an overlap between regulars of each board. We have common interests. (Though there are a lot of monogamy shills on /pol/ that haven't seen the light)
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No.4928
>>4920
>there are a lot of monogamy shills on /pol/ that haven't seen the light
This. /pol/ is way too focused on making sure every faggot and neckbeard passes on his genes instead of having the top ten percent of our white Übermensch breed the women.
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No.4929
>>4928
Every time you ladies get cucked ISIS beheads one more Christian.
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No.4930
>>4929
Bin Laden can't ride with me if I fill up my car with vixens.
Checkmate, christfag.
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No.4931
>>4920
pollack here. monogamy created whites. white women are extraordinarily beautiful, especially between the ages of 16 and 26, and white men also look more feminine than the men of other races.
the reason for this is that, uniquely among the races, white women who can't get a good husband don't get to reproduce, creating a uniquely powerful incentive to be as beautiful as possible at around the time of marriage.
now, what you cuckqueans are getting off on is the idea that your man is powerful enough to have a female slave and maintain her as a mistress and even maintain the resulting bastards, but, of course, with you as the actual wife, so your children have a future assured to them as the legitimate children of a powerful man.
what i'm getting off to here is the idea that i'm powerful enough to have a mistress. but if i ever amass that kind of power i'll have to use it to stop degeneracy because 14w comes first.
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No.4932
>>4931
Maybe you're overestimating the amount of power required to have a mistress. You'd need much, much more than that level to have a hope of making even a small dent in degeneracy.
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No.4941
>>4931
But /pol/-kun, by literally cucking your wife you are "literally" cucking not her but the feminists and the libtard establishment.
After all one more White woman in a strong White man's harem is one less White woman for Mehmet and Abdul to rape.
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No.4992
>>4941
that's not the point. the point is that the inferior grade of White women don't get to have White children because they will just bring down the average beauty of the White race
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No.5000
>>4992
You know you get to choose the members of your harem right? You don't have to fuck the women you don't want to impregnate.
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No.5001
Seems like the only real difference between cuckqueans and those who claim to be /pol/acks is the number of girls a white man should have. Why not agree on a compromise between the cuckquean position (an entire harem) and the /pol/ position (only one girl), let's say three or four girls?
>>5000 (Checked)
And as if any cuckquean wouldn't want the absolute best for her man anyway.
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No.5006
>>5000
Historic.
>>5001
>4 girls
I think this is the magic number too. It makes sense mathematically, given the 20/80 rule where the top 20% of guys get the top 80% of girls. Since 80 is 4x greater than 20, 4 makes sense. Isn't that what some polygamous cultures say is the maximum amount of wives a man can legally have?
But I also believe a man should have as many as he can support. If he can support 5 or more, more power to him.
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No.5073
>>5006
>the 20/80 rule where the top 20% of guys get the top 80% of girls
I see the logic here but there is another solution. Why shouldn't white men have say one or two main wives (who are white of course) and then a larger amount of asian girls just as concubines? They are pretty obsessed with white men but there simply aren't enough to go around - so there would have to be a lot of sharing. There are hundreds of millions of asian girls who won't get to be with a white guy and my proposal will solve that.
I hope this doesn't come off as insulting or portraying asian girls as charity cases. Rather I am trying to be practical and thinking of their happiness too.
I know /pol/ is against racemixing but again you wouldn't have to impregnate your concubines. Or at least if you do you could always make sure they only have daughters.
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No.5074
>>5073
>you wouldn't have to impregnate your concubines.
Now I'm imagining a shy Asian qt getting sterilised (or modified somehow so she can only bear daughters yes I know that's not how sex selection works) so she can safely become a concubine. I imagine the process would develop into something of a private ritual.
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No.5077
Let's play with some hypotheticals, /cuckquean/. Imagine the following fundamentals:
- The population of men is one fifth (20%) of the population of women.
- The rate of boys born is also one fifth of its current level. That is, on average, there is only one boy born for every five girls.
- All other constraints of biology are the same as they are now.
What would happen? What would it be like?
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No.5079
>>5077
>WW2 weapons (likely early war since no SVTs)
>Post WW2 tank (possibly even a prototype to boot)
Fucking weebs not paying enough attention to detail.
On topic:
>What would happen? What would it be like?
Less warfare, more harems.
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No.5081
>>5077
>>5079
Also drum mags on the PPSh-41 are an indication of early war since they were phased out due to unreliability and high manufacturing costs.
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No.5084
>>5079
>>5081
Oh, hi /k/!
>tfw no innawoods harem
Given competition for limited resources remains a factor, do you think warfare would evolve differently when men are more valuable (or less cheap at least)?
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No.5091
>>5084
>Given competition for limited resources remains a factor, do you think warfare would evolve differently when men are more valuable (or less cheap at least)?
Well I'd expect to see female soldiers be a thing beyond pandering, certainly by the time we reach industrial warfare just like in my Chinese cartoons. Actual officers might still be men or might be women depending on how it all plays out. I'm thinking along the lines of European colonial armies with white officers (who were more valuable for a whole host of reasons) and native soldiers but swapping that to men and women respectively. Either that or some system of formalised small scale skirmishes/duels to decide conflicts instead of large-scale lethal combat. Something similar to pre-Shaka tribal fighting in Africa or Central American 'Flower Wars' writ large. Part of the question is whether humans are biologically different in this 20:80 split since the desire to at least simulate warfare (e.g. sport) is an inherent male trait. It is no coincidence that young boys worldwide will play soldier so that desire to hit each other will have to be dealt with.
Outside of war you might look at how lion prides work with Lionesses doing the vast majority of the day-to-day hunting, looking after each other's children and so on.
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No.5093
>>5091
>Outside of war you might look at how lion prides work with Lionesses doing the vast majority of the day-to-day hunting, looking after each other's children and so on.
Scaling that into a society would be interesting. With 5 women for every man, the fundamental family unit would become the harem (without the surplus of disposable men that structure produces with a 1:1 sex ratio). So then that leaves the question of whom the head is. Going from the lion pride model, that'd be the man. I imagine the way to make that scale in pre-feudal but post-tribal society would be to use the Saxon-style tenmen/hundredmen/thousandman unit, except each unit is a harem.
The question of how a harem would allow its young men and women to form new harems is an interesting one. I imagine once a society scales, the marriages would be just as political, except the impact of marrying off a son to multiple women would be far greater than that of marrying a daughter off to be part of a harem.
This, however, assumes that in a minority-male society, men will still automatically assume power at all levels. What if the opposite were true, and a harem-society tended martiarchal, with the power women hold over income, skills and martial numbers giving them disproportionate pull as technology advances into the Industrial Age?
My reasoning is thus: Male disposability contributed to a fight-or-die ethos, which in turn lead to the idea of citizenship-by-service. But in a society where women, not men, are disposable, might that fact counterbalance male adaptations for combat and lead to a situation in which men are preferentially protected by women?
The essential problem I'm trying to solve is that harem societies seem like they don't have a lot of ways to spur cooperation and advancement beyond the family level.
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No.5110
>>5093
>The question of how a harem would allow its young men and women to form new harems is an interesting one. I imagine once a society scales, the marriages would be just as political, except the impact of marrying off a son to multiple women would be far greater than that of marrying a daughter off to be part of a harem.
Come to think of it inbreeding might be much more of a problem. Political marriages at the high level already had issues with it and now we've got a much more limited pool of possible fathers and grandfathers. A good motive to expand a harem to exotic women.
>This, however, assumes that in a minority-male society, men will still automatically assume power at all levels. What if the opposite were true, and a harem-society tended martiarchal, with the power women hold over income, skills and martial numbers giving them disproportionate pull as technology advances into the Industrial Age?
This I had considered. Something like a drone society in which men exist mostly for dicking, eating and general hedonism. It could easily be a non-formal thing too: on paper men hold all the power but in practice they're too busy having fun to bother outside of extreme situations. From this arrangement it could evolve to a purely symbolic role for them (Japanese Emperor style).
>The essential problem I'm trying to solve is that harem societies seem like they don't have a lot of ways to spur cooperation and advancement beyond the family level.
The Middle East has this problem partly because families actively try to marry cousins to keep shit small.
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No.5111
>>5091
>Outside of war you might look at how lion prides work with Lionesses doing the vast majority of the day-to-day hunting, looking after each other's children and so on.
It's actually not as vast as once thought. The male role is still more heavily skewed towards defense of the pride, rather than hunting, but they're finding that male pride lions still do a fair amount of hunting, if less than when they were bachelor lions.
The perception that they barely hunt arose because males and females do not hunt in the same areas. The males are more powerful, but heavier and slower. What this means is that they have to get closer before they give chase, and so they favor areas with more uneven terrain with rocks or vegetation to hide themselves. Problem is, the same things that make it harder for prey to see them also make it harder for human observers to study them, so for a long time, we just assumed they barely hunted, since we never saw it happen.
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No.5135
I've a little impregnation fantasy, and I suppose a harem would the best way to deal with it if it was real.
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No.5141
>>5111
That I did not know.
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No.5180
The hottest thing for me in a harem would be the close knit family relations, between the man and his wives. They would all be together, work together, play together and, the basic living together. I may be projecting but imagine waking up in your bed, kissing your lovely wife morning, and walking downstairs to meet your next wife, swooning her over for a surprise kiss, she blushes madly and first wife comes down and all make breakfast and eat happily. That's without sex but it makes me happy.
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No.5181
>>5180
As tempting as a harem is, I can't practically see being able to do with more than 2 or 3, and I've tried both.
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No.5200
>>5111 (checked)
>What this means is that they have to get closer before they give chase, and so they favor areas with more uneven terrain with rocks or vegetation to hide themselves. Problem is, the same things that make it harder for prey to see them also make it harder for human observers to study them, so for a long time, we just assumed they barely hunted, since we never saw it happen.
That's very interesting. There seem to be a lot of models of animal behaviour that are now being found to merely be the result of underobservation.
As with all science, the stuff that makes humans feel good is more likely to spread memetically and therefore entrench itself into the collective consciousness, like that old fake chestnut about different parts of your tongue tasting different flavours.
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No.5204
>>5077 (Checked)
It depends on how many men you need to do all the jobs that they are typically good at. I suppose it's technology and automation that makes it more possible. As it stands right now it's arguable that too many essential jobs needed to support the population just wouldn't be done. Same deal if you reversed your scenario.
Assuming that isn't a problem there is a danger that men, having higher value, might lower their game and get very lazy and fat. Maybe the opposite would happen. If you got rid of all the dregs, the criminals, etc, then society would be significantly improved.
Politically speaking, who would be in charge? It might be a disaster to have females over-represented in leadership positions. I don't know. I am trying to think of negatives to be contrarian because obviously everyone on this board is strongly in favor of such a society.
>>5181
What practical issues do you mean? Money, or something else?
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No.5207
>>5180
I'd prefer if there was some more diversity in that, like one of the vixens/wives being a motherly housewife/maid, the other being the aristocratic lady-like mistress of the house, the other being the naughty carefree seductress that everyone scolds and the youngest/second youngest being a cheerful womanchild that is technically given the role of the nanny but she integrates with the children so much she ends up being punished by the motherly maid type.
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No.5247
>>5180
For me it's the sheer inequality of the scenario.
If you're a woman in a harem it is a fact that you have one choice while your husband has his pick. So, as a harem girl, I would have to compete for my husband's affections while my husband would never want for sexual satisfaction. I have to put in the work to draw him to me, not the other way around. That has a huge affect on our bargaining power for day-to-day life, as the master (who presumably is the breadwinner) has a lot more power in the relationship.
Naturally, it's the perfect cuckquean fantasy, because you're forced to share. Even more so if you're a lower class member of the harem and don't even get to share (I really like the story at the beginning of this thread for that). Of course, I imagine a blanket masturbation ban on the girls, too.
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No.5263
>>5247
I imagined cuckqueans in a harem arguing that the other girl should share his bed rather than themselves. But seriously it's true that it does provide an incentive for women to be their best. Today a lot of people in relationships become quite lazy and end up suffering for it later. We are all biased here but I am starting to think becoming cuckqueans really could be the answer for a lot of women.
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No.5297
CHOOSE, /cuckquean/!
It's late afternoon, and your husband will be home soon. Everyone in the harem has assembled before you, his wife, so you can decide who will be in the bedroom tonight, as you do every night.
You may pick no more than three.
Who do you pick?
Why?
What happens?
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No.5298
>>4890
>>4891
>>4892
>>4906
>>4907
>>4908
>>4909
Ohhhhhhh that was good.
>>5247
>I imagine a blanket masturbation ban on the girls, too.
Me too! Mostly when I have a harem fantasy I'm writhing in desperation as I have to watch other girls get taken before it's finally my turn.
Other times, very rarely, I get a dominant rush. Not towards men, only girls. I like to imagine I'm the wife or harem head, and that I sometimes deliberately withhold access to the master for some of the more junior concubines who are locked in chastity belts that open with the key hanging around my neck. (As the wife, I am exempt from being belted.) I tease them until they get so desperate that I train them to lap my pussy and tongue my butt as a way of begging to be assigned bed duty. It's not even about the sex, just the rush of being so above them. Then when I do unlock them for my husband, they're so pent up that they just melt into a quivering puddle the moment he slides in.
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No.5299
>>5297
I thought I got to choose. Maybe my wife could surprise me, but limiting it to three is also tough. I'd prefer to plow through until I collapse.
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No.5300
>>5297
Pfft, we aren't voting. The winners will be decided via nude wrestling battle royale. I'll get the oil.
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No.5310
>>5297
First, I choose #2. Her breasts are among the largest in the harem, and I'm having her trained to use her tits. While the ultimate decision of how to use her is up to the master, I've talked it over with him and we have agreed that she will specialize in titfucking. While all the girls are forbidden from masturbating, she in particular is closely watched as it's been a few months since she's been allowed to do anything other than give a titfuck. She knows it's not likely she'll be sated soon.
Second, #11. She has been particularly diligent lately, and as such I choose to reward her. I will request master to let her cum, though ultimately it's his choice. That said, she has master's preferred body type so I can consider her a safe choice.
Finally, #25. She's the new girl in the harem and has little experience. She doesn't know yet that there are aphrodisiacs in all our water, but she has noticed that she's a lot hornier - unfortunately for her, I am watching closely to prevent her from masturbating. Tonight she gets to watch. There's a chance master will use her but it's unlikely.
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No.5317
>>5298
I almost always imagine myself on the bottom. I'm never a harem head, let alone a wife. I always imagine myself as one of the junior girls, who is required by the hierarchy to yield to the higher-ranking girls.
Naturally, I am strictly to remain belted. The chastity belt only comes off when you deem it so, and that's purely a privilege - every time I'm locked in, I'm fully aware that I have no right at all to even request release from you, the head girl.
Of course, this immense frustration means that I have absolutely no bargaining power. I am helpless to do anything but comply without complaint to any command that is addressed to me. If I tried to deny, you'd end up tormenting me with stimulation without release. The only way I can be satisfied is through absolute submission.
It doesn't help that I am frequently made to watch my master please you in ways I can only imagine feeling myself. Sadly, due to my low status, I am afforded not even a moment of privacy to touch myself, even if the belt didn't stop it.
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No.5343
>>5297
Are those girls taken from a specific work?
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No.5348
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No.5352
>>5077
If there's enough pussy to go around then what would be the point of war other than kebab removal?
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No.5353
Is this board really have Femanons or is it just rp?
if it is femanons I need some advice on woman, do they like big balls?
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No.5355
>>5353
Damn, you caught us. You're right, it's all RP. Everybody just stay real still until it goes away. You could ask >>>/femininity/ though, I hear they need something to talk about in between knitting, gardenining and reloading brass.
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No.5356
>>5355
don't worry I'm not staying
but come on, it's not out of the realm of possibility this is an rp board with 8chan demographic
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No.5357
>>5353
Don't ask, don't tell.
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No.5369
>>5355
You could ask >>>/femininity/ though.
Also ask them
>Is this board really have Femanons or is it just rp?
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No.5483
>>4909
I absolutely love your story but I think the ending is a bit weaker than the rest. Personally I would have preferred an ending where FeMC remains at the bottom of the hierarchy and is eternally, unwillingly kept desperate to cum rather than it being a completely voluntary submission.
Still, top-tier story.
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No.5484
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No.5491
I have this idea about a queen who's a cuckquean and encourages her king to make harem, so she could masterbate to them.
Thoughts?
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No.5492
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No.5498
>>5491
Maybe it was an arranged marriage, and the king to be was was older than the young princess. He wasn't going to wait to get be sexually satisfied, so he starts sleeping around on his fiancee quite prolifically. He tries to hide it, but the princess catches him one day, and masturbates to her first orgasm as she watches him fuck another woman. After that, she figures out his habits and catches him frequently as masturbating to him fucking others becomes her favorite hobby. She presses several of the women he's sleeping around with into service as her handmaidens and at first they're terrified, but she convinces them she's sincere and wants them to keep serving her fiance sexually. He's confused at first, but still horny so he keeps fucking them despite his worries that it will be awkward. Later, when they finally get married they reach their bed where a selection of the women he's been cheating on her with for years are in lingerie and the princess reveals she knows about all his dalliances and wants them to continue, only without them having to hide from each other.
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No.5504
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No.5509
>>5498
Or maybe the queen was married to a warmonger, who travels around the world and conquer countless nations and collecting their beauties for his harem.
The cuckquean will see how beautiful those girls he conquered are. And she'll probably develop cuckquean fetish over time as she observes her emperor fucking all those girls and impregnate.
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No.5630
>>5498
>1st pic
Ah, I remember when that first came out. Hanaharu Naruko was pretty great. Aside from Gargantia's designs she seems to have mostly submerged these days.
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No.5639
>>5483
Yeah, I realized after I finished that I probably gave it the wrong ending.
Trying to write for what makes queans tick is tough for me because I'm a big dominant guy (and of course I wrote the story while envisioning myself as the master of the harem). All my fantasies involve being powerful, genetically prolific, and surrounded by women who I can have sex with on command, so basically the exact opposite. I'm actually surprised people liked the story as much as they did, considering I was working almost entirely on guesswork.
>>5310
Excellent selections, but #14 has been working on that one piece swimsuit tan, and master's gonna be pissed if he doesn't get to hit that before it fades.
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No.5666
Do you think deep down all women want to be put in her place by a strong man? That place being in his harem. That's looking more and more likely to me, the more people I talk to.
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No.5668
>>5666
All women, without exception? No.
An overwhelming majority will respond positively to displays of strength and confidence that are not physically damaging to any party. A significant minority (40-45%) will accept behavior that shows a lack of regard for consent, as long as physical harm is not expressly threatened. Most of these women will acquiesce to PIV intercourse that could be classified as rape, anticipating that they will find it pleasurable and that it will have no other negative consequences.
This may not be what you meant by "in his harem", but that's such a far-fetched concept in a modern society. I'm the first guy who'd want a harem lifestyle, even though that would mean five or six women living in a commune style arrangement, working menial jobs for my benefit and being holes on call. I've more or less adapted my sexual fantasies to the fact that I'll never be rich, or even comfortably well-off, and that it takes a strange woman to be sexually attracted to me.
Sorry, rambling.
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No.5669
>>5666 (Checked)
Do all men want to put a woman in her place?
>>5668
>acquiesce to PIV intercourse
LEWD
Part of the cuckquean thing and it's lesser cousins like submission or being a surrendered wife are about making the best of what you have. It's like virtual hypergamy where a woman turns an existing man into what she wants rather than forever looking for him.
>I'll never be rich, or even comfortably well-off
You might be right, but you might also be wrong. I know quite a few people who were poor wage slaves and now run their own businesses or have become well off wage slaves. They all thought it could never happen. Some retard always turns up in a discussion about money and says something similar, right? But I have seen it with my own eyes.
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No.5671
I find myself fantasising less about being in a harem these days and more about being one of two, maybe three girls all living together with our husband. Feels warmer and safer somehow. Maybe I'm mellowing out as a cuckquean.
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No.5672
>>5669
>making the best of what you have
I've perceived it the other way around really - that they need a high-quality dude to make them feel like he's worth what she wants to give him. A cuckquean, or a submissive woman that wants to conform to traditional gender roles more so than a BDSM arrangement, would certainly have the easiest time of getting what they want from Vanilla Joe.
> it could still happen.
I won't say you're wrong.
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No.5673
We should really get a movement started to allow polygamy.
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No.5674
>>5673
Much as I fantisise about it, I think that having polygamy (or preferably polygyny) accepted at a societal and legal level would be detrimental for Western civilisation. The present system doesn't seem to work all that well either, but I think that's more down to the subversion introduced to the law surrounding it and to society at large.
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No.5691
>>5673
Why? I think it's more suitable that only the head girl gets the rights of marriage. The others are of lower class, and shouldn't be afforded the rights of a wife.
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No.5694
So how is your harem structured? Here's my fantasy of being in the crown prince's harem.
The harem of thirty-ish is administrated by the prince's mother (the queen-consort). While it is the prince's harem, the queen is the one who actually has final authority over it, superceding even the prince himself, and she's the one who structures it.
The harem has specific, formal classes for the girls. Mobility is possible but rank within the harem is prescriptive and an actual title change must be granted. The status a girl starts out with is determined by what she was before being brought into the harem.
1. Head girl - She is appointed by the queen to oversee the harem. She's in charge of almost everything and reports directly to the queen. The head girl has broad authority and her position is meant to be long-term, but she can lose her position for a great failure. The head girl is allowed to leave the harem complex as long as she informs the eunuchs.
2. High class - These girls are the higher class members of the harem. These are mostly the third or fourth daughters of great families, or any daughter of lesser nobility. They are allowed to leave the harem complex after having a formal request approved (they have to be back before dusk), and out in public, they have great status (but little power). Strict rules apply on these excursions. They are allowed to present themselves before the prince first when he comes to use the harem.
3. Middle class - These girls are the middle class of the harem, made up mainly of the daughters of tradesmen or artisans. There are also a few "fallen" nobles in this class, who have made some mistake while they were high class and were demoted. Middle class girls may never leave the walls of the complex. They may present themselves after the high class girls, and may not speak until after the high class girls have been picked through.
4. Low class - These girls are usually the daughters of commoners. Their peasant parents were happy to receive a sum in exchange for the uncommon beauty of their daughter. Some are also girls who fell from middle class. Low class girls are not allowed to speak until spoken to and are delegated most of the menial chores of the harem (middle class girls and above are allowed to relax most of the time). They are forbidden from wearing clothing besides a bit of cloth for breast support and to cover the genitals.
In addition to all of the above, the class of the girl dictates the type of sex she will probably have with the prince:
- The head girl and high class girls get vaginal and anal sex.
- The middle class girls will usually give blowjobs and handjobs. They get anal for good behavior, and vaginal is a rare treat.
- The lower class girls lick the semen from the higher girls' orifices, or serve as support (such as acting as a "bed", letting a girl rest on her back as she is fucked by the prince).
These aren't strict rules that apply to the prince - rather, they are common sense and it is only natural for him to put them into practice. To the prince, the fact that vaginal pleasure is the realm of the higher class girls is just an obvious norm.
Naturally, masturbation is strictly forbidden for all harem members.
Guess which category I fantasize myself in.
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No.5726
>>5297
I wish I could pick more than three to accompany me tonight. It's a shame that hubby has important meetings early tomorrow morning, precluding the all-night quasi-orgies that we have from time to time.
#5 and #6 to start. They've been particularly diligent lately, and it hasn't escaped my notice that they've also become quite close to each other. Not enough that their loyalty to my husband (their master) is at all in question, of course - they're long-time concubines and I know their love for him is just as genuine as mine. But as their lips and tongues meet around hubby's cock, or as #5 fellates him while he's cradled in #6's bountiful tits, or as #6 lovingly prepares #5's well-trained bum for penetration, the secret spark between them will make things that much better for hubby. By the time hubby pulls out of #5, I know #6 will have become so wound up from seeing #5 be taken (maybe she has a little of my nature too?) that she'll beg very prettily to be next, and I know how hubby likes that.
#10 as well. Saucy little thing's been overconfident lately, but I know from long experience that her showing it means she really wants to be put back in her place. As #5 and #6 lie stickily exhausted in each other's arms (maybe I'll sample a little of the creampie on my way past), hubby and I will work #10 over. It'll only be a little while before she's writhing in her restraints, begging mindlessly to be allowed to cum. That's up to hubby, of course, but I know for sure that he'll deny her after his sadistic side has been riled up. Once he's finished using her, I'll lock her belt on.
After that? Who knows what might (or might not!) be in store for me~!
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No.5779
>>5694
>Guess which category I fantasize myself in.
I don't see someone choosing anything other than 1 or 4 and for you I'm going to guess 4. It raises an interesting thought: how many higher girls would use deception to get into that class because that's their fetish? It's honestly quite funny to imagine them being forced into a higher status than they might want just by accident of birth.
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No.5804
>>5779
Now that's certainly an interesting thought.
The inner workings of the harem are private. No one except the queen, the prince, and some eunuchs (the ones specifically chosen for the duty) are allowed into the complex.
To speak of the inner workings of the harem to outsiders is a taboo, and no one would think of inquiring into or sharing that information. It's not particularly useful intel since harem members are not the same as concubines and have no political influence or relevance, and it's a social taboo. Once a girl goes into the harem, her family is to forget her existence. Even the high class girls are forbidden from seeking contact with their families (and in fact, they would be shunned by their family if they tried).
This means that if a girl were to degrade her own status, no one on the outside would ever know. Her family would assume she simply never chooses to leave - if they even give her a thought.
There are two ways for a girl to start off in the lower class:
1. Atonement. Becoming a harem girl is the female equivalent to ASoIaF's "taking the black". A young girl with a good enough appearance may be offered the opportunity to take the harem as an alternative punishment. A girl who enters the harem under these terms starts at the bottom regardless of birth.
2. To enter as a non-virgin. Girls who enter the harem and are discovered to not be virgins upon entry are assigned the lowest class regardless of birth. The exception is if the prince was the one to claim her virginity - unless it can be proved that she had sex with someone else between that and entering the harem, she is exempt from this requirement and is allowed to start from the rank appropriate for her birth.
A masochistic girl might break her own hymen to fake her own loss of virginity (though that in itself is not proof that a girl is not a virgin).
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No.5807
>>5694
>>5804
Some additional harem information:
Within the harem, only the rank within the harem matters. Birth is irrelevant (though it does determine initial rank). A lower class girl who tried to use her birth in an argument would be ignored.
The relationship between the high and middle class is very different from that between the middle and low. The high class and middle class girls often strike up friendships (though still strictly respecting the superior-subordinate relationship in all cases), as they have lots of time to relax together and have an absurd amount of "free time". However, the low class girls do not get to strike up similar relationships with the middle class girls. This relationship is almost always strictly that of superior and inferior.
In fact, the low class girls have little opportunity to strike up friendships even with each other. After all, they're not allowed to speak without permission - and they can't give each other permission!
There is no privacy in the harem. It is carefully designed so almost every point within the building can be seen from most of the rest of the harem. Pillars are used rather than walls. It is even acoustically designed to make conversations carry.
Cooking is a task delegated to the middle class. Some of the higher class girls enjoy cooking, and volunteer to help. This is a great source of socialization.
The way the girls sleep has much to do with rank. There aren't bedrooms, just a common sleeping area. High class girls get a mattress of their own. Middle class girls get second pick, and usually share (some close high-middle friendships share together). The low class girls are required to sleep in the "pit" - a set of mats laid next to each other on the floor that all the low class girls can fit on if they pile up onto each other.
And you may have noticed… yes, the middle and high class girls do actively make an effort to subjugate the low class girls and decrease their quality of life. The reasons why a girl may be low class are enough for the middle class girls to look down on them (crime and non-virgin should be obvious. Peasantry is associated with laziness or lack of ambition in the family).
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No.5808
Ever think Akane from Ranma 1/2 had cuckquean desires? She has a nightmare of it in both the manga and anime ova…
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No.5812
>>5694
Mine is a king’s harem.
The nation the king rules over is a monarchy backed up by a loose theocracy. The religion is heavily animist, which at scale means the worship of a parthenon of primary gods plus an innumerable number of minor gods and ancestors. The king is not considered a divinity himself, but rather as the nation’s ritual link to the divine and thus the main source of the nation’s life and energy. As such, it is very important to national morale that the king be happy, healthy, and fertile, so that the nation remains prosperous and energetic in all it does. The king must in all things be a warrior, a poet, a scholar, and also a lover. It is customary for a king to secede his throne to his son soon after the latter has his second coming-of-age at 25, so that the nation may always be headed by one whom the fires of life flow strongly through. (The “old king” and sometimes also the “old old king” usually serve as their son/grandson’s advisors, so that the critical trade of statecraft is not lost or permitted to fall into the hands of mere stewards.)
The king’s harem (presently fifteen or so) is headed by his major wife, the queen-consort. She may be gainsaid only by the king himself, and in practice is the absolute steward of the king’s “inside realm”. She is chosen by the king from multiple candidates only after a long period of courtship that extends over his entire youth and until his coronation, which doubles as his wedding. Below the queen-consort are the king’s minor wives - his concubines. Usually, some of them are immediately “called” by the newly-married queen-consort from her fellow candidates as part of the wedding ceremony. The harem system originates in this practice; part of the culture’s origin legend has it that the first queen-consort of far antiquity broke down in tears immediately after saying her vows because she could not bear the thought that her fellow candidates would be separated from the man they had all come to love. Both king and gods were so moved by her pleas that they reached across the heavenly boundary to each other so the natural laws could be rewritten, their contact with each other punched a hole in the spiritual mantle, and as a result of the king ritually holding this gate open young nation exploded with the vitality it continues to enjoy even today. On the king’s wedding night, he, his wife and his concubines cross into the harem to much celebration across the realm. The king customarily first deflowers his queen-consort, then falls upon each concubine in turn.
The queen-consort is in charge of all matters within the harem. Some queens-consort have been benevolent dictators who run things as they see fit, others warm head-councillors who allow the concubines a say. The king is the final authority on everything, but he retreats into his harem not to rule but to relax, love, and be loved. As such, his queen-consort works to coordinate the concubines and herself to best please her husband in whatever way he needs and desires. Some traditional depictions of the king in religious texts have him sitting on a throne made up of his consort and concubines (some interpretations of this image are lewder than others).
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No.5813
>>5694
>>5812
The queen may leave the harem under escort of her husband, but in practice only occasionally does. The concubines do not leave the harem except to witness a new king’s coronation/wedding. None in the harem’s walls save the queen-consort may communicate to any outside. To be in the king’s harem is to give life to the entire realm and as such is considered the highest calling that a woman may have; the culture outside is fascinated by the king’s wives and its bards like to weave complex (and often bawdy) tales of the women within. Several minor noble families have discovered that they may fill a favoured niche in the realm’s apparatus by consistently producing fine concubines for the king over multiple generations - girls who are raised not to beat all other candidates, but to act in the eventual queen-consort’s support. Although they may not leave the harem and may not communicate with any outside, the queen-consort may bring back writing, art, scientific journals and other items from the outside world for the harem. Should any in the harem produce something that the queen-consort and king consider worth sharing with the realm - poetry, mathematics, writing and so forth - then it is released to the realm anonymously by subtle channels. If it requires attribution (scientific papers for example) then it is usually hidden under a “harem name” which represents all within. The queen-consort is no exception to this anonymising rule. Several major scientific breakthroughs have in the past been made by a concubine, or even by several working together. In this way, the king’s harem may contribute their vitality to the realm in ways that go beyond mystic-sexual.
The consort and concubines are waited on by a small army of highly trained female servants who are also attached to the harem for life. These girls and women provide a good income to their families but this comes at a price. They must be made infertile (a legend provides for how this was done in antiquity, in days past it was done chemically, and in modern times it’s done surgically), they are locked into chastity (the keys held by the queen-consort), and they give up their personhood to become “nothing”. Unless in the servant quarters (which the wives usually never enter), they each wear a veil covering the upper part of the face so their identities are hidden, obey their superiors unconditionally, and never speak unless given direct permission by the queen-consort herself. These servants’ efforts give the wives a comfortable existence, which the latter devote to leisure, art, cultural pursuits, and sex. It’s expected that servants can at any time be pulled aside and used for amusement, whether by the wives or with their husband the king. Though technically the queen-consort may unlock these girls at her discretion, she rarely does since they’re still sexually useful even when locked up and besides, who would be interested in the infertile pussy of “nothing”?
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No.5814
>>5813
New concubines may be taken into the harem at both the king and the queen-consort’s assent. This is typically a lengthy process, and often the queen-consort will see fit to let the minor wives have input. A special “receiving room” with peepholes is occasionally used so that the current concubines may observe the king, queen-consort and candidate together, often with the queen-consort also asking questions and performing actions previously suggested by the concubines. A successful candidate will be set upon by the queen and king in this room, culminating in the king giving the new concubine her first creampie, a sacrament which marries the girl to him. She is subsequently escorted between king and queen-consort into the harem, where the new minor wife is greeted with a feast that ends with her fucked repeatedly by the king in a circle of her fellow wives, whom all shout encouragement and lewd advice to the new girl, beginning the process of acclimatisation to the harem's libertine environment.
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No.5885
>>5807
If harem members have children, how is their social class handled?
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No.5892
>>5812
>>5813
Okay, I'm going to need to know the name of this artist. For science.
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No.5939
>>5804
>>5807
I love how detailed it all is and it's clear you've put some thought and effort into this. It uses various natural and societal behaviours to keep the harem in place and the man at the top in power.
>>5812
>>5813
>>5814
Regarding the being made infertile thing, I get the idea of a girl being so low that she's not worthy of being impregnated but to me it seems so extreme. It's too cruel. Maybe I am a lightweight.
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No.5940
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No.5941
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No.5948
>>5939
>cruel
More or less so than the use of male eunuchs?
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No.5949
>>5948
I find both equally distasteful but I'm not saying anyone has to change their fantasy scenarios because of my opinion.
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No.5958
>>5939
I'm actually not super attached to the low servants being sterilised, just kept chaste. I threw it in there for practicality and because it seemed to intuitively make sense within the religious system I had in mind. You could picture them instead being given a long-term contraception implant like an IUD if you want the practical part. Nothing at all would also make the chastity belts even more important.
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No.5978
>>5885
Harem members do not have children. All of the girls are chemically or surgically made infertile through a method that does not affect their libido.
Remember, the harem is not a list of the king's consorts. It is a construct meant to organize and control the king's pleasure slaves. The harem girls are purely for pleasure and nothing else. The king's wife is not a harem member and he may even have concubines or consort with courtesans who are not part of the harem. Harem girls are simply those girls who have been reserved specifically for the use of the king or crown prince.
It is incredibly undesirable for harem girls to have children. The harem girls are essentially private sex toys. The idea of the "harem" is specifically designed to minimize their impact on the outside world - as well as to minimize the impact of the outside world of them.
For a harem girl to have children would put her out of commission for up to 9 months. The biggest problem is actually that for a harem girl to have children would mean that she has had an impact on the outside world. That's something a harem girl is never to be allowed to do. Once a girl is in the harem, she is not to be anything but a sex toy for her king.
The infertility is not meant as a way to affect the girls' status. It's mostly a utilitarian procedure. That said, harem girls are intended to "not exist" for anyone except for their owner.
(this might not be the answer you were hoping for, but it best fits my idea of the harem)
>>5939
Technically, it's a woman who is in charge. The person who, by law, has the greatest degree of control over the harem is the mother of the man who owns it.
>>5948
I think that anon was referring more to the idea of the girls becoming "nothing", not just the infertility.
>>5958
In your scenario, I'm actually a huge fan of the chastity belts since they also hinder masturbation.
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No.5979
>>5813
>Several minor noble families have discovered that they may fill a favoured niche in the realm’s apparatus by consistently producing fine concubines for the king over multiple generations - girls who are raised not to beat all other candidates, but to act in the eventual queen-consort’s support.
I'm a huge fan of this idea.
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No.5980
>>5978
>Technically, it's a woman who is in charge.
My mistake. I stand corrected.
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No.5985
>>5978
>In your scenario, I'm actually a huge fan of the chastity belts since they also hinder masturbation.
Yes, that's the main reason I included them. The harem servants are really a kind of specialised religious order who foreswear all identity and personal desire in favour of unconditional service to the harem. They literally give up ownership of themselves and practically worship the women (and man) they serve as quasi-divinities. Masturbation is an act solely for oneself, and thus is unthinkable. In an unremittingly sexual environment like the harem, even the strongest wills will be eroded. So the only way to prevent such weakness is with steel.
Wives with the need may avail themselves of the servants, with much the same attitude as one would have towards a vibrator.
>>5979
That part is a fantasy that's been with me a long time, so I'm glad to see others liking it.
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No.5989
>>5985
I like your ideas, though I wouldn't incorporate them directly into my own fantasy.
In my fantasy the harem girls are basically kept in a storage box while waiting for use. While the harem does have a library, the girls aren't allowed to produce anything that impacts the outside world.
The girls, however, do have one thing to work towards - relief from their sexual frustration. In my harem there are no chastised "nothings" for the girls to make use of, and they're not allowed to masturbate or self-pleasure in any way. Their food is all laced with light aphrodisiacs - not enough to drive a girl crazy but just enough to leave her constantly wired and on edge for release.
The high class girls generally don't have it too bad. Because they present first, most of them see frequent use - once a week is common. They are also the only girls that frequently get to cum, as they get clitoral stimulation during vaginal sex. Their efforts are best directed towards diet and exercise (in the courtyard) to improve their own beauty. The girls who were bred for the harem may not even feel much frustration since they have been prepared for this life since birth.
The middle class girls are dependent on the previous group. Their gateway to sex is their friendships with the high class girls. The high class girls will often point out their friends to the prince, and this is the easiest way to get selected. Regardless, they rarely get to cum because they are usually used as "primers" - they'll start the session with a blowjob to slick up the prince's penis for easier insertion. For these girls "sex" is usually anal. Some of them do learn to cum this way.
The low class girls live lives of frustration and denial. Even in a high-population harem, they are often accompanied by loneliness since they can't converse. Their sleeping arrangement is great at causing friction between these girls, as the girls can't get much comfort while piled up together and each girl knows that her own comfort must come at the expense of another. Some girls lose themselves in their duties as an escape from their frustration. There's certainly a lot of frustration, as these girls essentially never get to cum. The closest a low girl gets to sex is feeling the prince's semen leaking out onto her back from the pussy of the girl she is bearing.
Of course, chastity belts are used on girls who've slipped up. These belts can be applied to any rank girl, and are not removed except for cleaning. It's very hard to work one's way out. The high class girls fear this punishment as they know the prince will just use them anally instead and this means an end to the easy orgasms they previously enjoyed. The middle class girls will lose their hope of the rare vaginal usage, and a low class girl in a chastity belt knows she will probably never cum again.
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No.6034
>>6027
Yes, you are. Cock or GTFO.
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No.6054
>>6027
>>6038
It seems like your boysluts are a little out of control. Don't they know their cocks are worthless now? They're girls now, they use their mouths and asses.
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No.6056
>>6055
Woops, meant to reply to >>6054
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No.6059
>>6055
>Maybe that's not /cuckquean/s type.
Whether it's our type or not is hardly relevant because your fantasy posting falls firmly in the category of "MUH DICK" i.e. not cuckqueaning. I'm sure your fantasy self would be very attractive, I'm just not interested in hearing about him or the infinite boipussy he slays.
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No.6061
>>6059
Eh, you're right. It all looks really stupid now that I'm not horndogged out. Just muh dick shit. Forget I said anything.
I'll still continue to spy on you cucks.
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No.6062
>>6059
>I'm just not interested in hearing about him or the infinite boipussy he slays
This should be engraved on your tombstone. Probably the most hilarious post I have read on this site so far.
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No.6125
>>5989
I like your harem a lot. Something sticks out for me, though: The sleeping arrangement for the low-class girls. It just seems like a strange detail; physical discomfort while sleeping isn't generally the sort of thing you see in sexual fantasies. Why'd you include it? Does it tie into a very specific aspect of your fetish?
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No.6216
Would you buy your husband a concubine for his birthday?
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No.6219
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No.6225
>>6059
I made this crop. I only ever posted it in the GamerGate threads on /v/.
Where did you find it? I want to see how far this spread. Or are you one of us?
Polite sage for off topic.
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No.6228
>>6216
>>6219
No.
Concubines are more suited to be anniversary gifts.
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No.6237
>>6225
That's where I got it, though I recognised the mango it was from and would likely have made a crop of my own if I hadn't seen yours.
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No.6247
>>6228
That's more in the spirit of this board. Shared joy and all.
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No.6406
>>6125
Late answer, but yeah, that's about it. It's just one of those specific weird aspects of my fetish. For me the discomfort is not the main fetish, but rather the idea of the girls sleeping together in the same place is.
The reason why I made it so uncomfortable in this particular fantasy comes down to two things:
1. It degrades the relationships between the low class girls and helps prevent them from forming an unspoken camaraderie.
2. It reinforces their low status. The arrangement does not have any upsides for the superiors of these girls. It sends a clear message to all the girls that the low class girls are inferior and no excuse is needed to have fun at their expense.
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No.6473
>>6406
>For me the discomfort is not the main fetish, but rather the idea of the girls sleeping together in the same place is.
That's part of a harem's appeal to me too. I usually picture it as a huge futon on which the harem crashes together. The arrangement in my head has a comfortable atmosphere with lots of friendly skinship.
I like how much you have thought about your version. It's unusual to see social isolation and other types of misery included so specifically, though perhaps the point is the extreme humiliation of the low-class girls rather than the misery itself.
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No.6478
>>4852
logistics of this shit would be a goddamn nightmare and you know it.
Even having something as small as a three-woman harem would see an internal pecking order created. There would always be an alpha bitch and she would try to own the place. Most likely there would be more than one girl with the alpha bitch personality and that needs to be shut down immediately with good ol' fashioned discipline of forcing her to watch you fuck the others until she behaves. Either that or a week in the cage for every outburst.
Ethically you should always do what you can to protect your females, they are yours after all no sense in breaking your toys physically.
Personally, I wouldn't enjoy a harem of more than three to five. Too much resources, too much micromanaging, too much of a chance of some random ass male invader trying to get with my property and mucking things up. Plus I'd basically have to have gay guards or castrated guards to maintain everything. Shit's such a goddamn bother. Considering the settings, I probably couldn't even impregnate any of them as the only way I'd feasibly have a harem is if I came from a family of influence and they sure as hell would not want my lil hellspawn bastards popping up all over the place.
Honestly, I'm also much too K-type selection to pursue harems in general but hey the above is legit if I had the opportunities
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No.6570
>>6473
I didn't go into any detail about it, but the middle and high class girls get plenty of skinship of a reasonably desirable sort. There are plenty of close friendships between those two ranks.
In fact, these relationships may even move to outright romance (think "prison gay" - the girls may not necessarily be lesbians). These relationships are usually between girls of different classes rather than between girls of the same class. In a sense, some of the high class girls command their own mini-harems of middle class girls who are their "social concubines".
These relationships are allowed and even encouraged - but only to a certain extent. There are certain very clear barriers that only the prince may cross. These relationships may be romantic, but are only allowed to be so in an innocent sense. The physicality of these relationships is strictly limited to skinship.
A high class girl can usually secure a mattress large enough to comfortably share with 2 middle class girls.
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No.6588
>>6570
>In fact, these relationships may even move to outright romance (think "prison gay" - the girls may not necessarily be lesbians). These relationships are usually between girls of different classes rather than between girls of the same class. In a sense, some of the high class girls command their own mini-harems of middle class girls who are their "social concubines".
Sounds a little like Marimite, except all the senior girls are regularly fucked by a prince. I'd watch it.
>tfw no middle-class bedmate to excitedly squeeze the hand of while the high-class harem-sister we've both fallen for gets creampied
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No.6617
>>6570
>straight girls becoming "prison gay"
>>6588
>excitedly squeeze the hand of
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No.6666
>>6654
He's saying the idea turns him on.
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No.6667
>>6666 (Extremely Checked)
Yes.
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No.6720
I see posts like these a lot:
>>5298
>>5317
I have a question. For those who fantasise about forced-bi stuff (assuming you're not already bisexual), can you explain what you find appealing about it? Are there specific circumstances or situations only in which you like the idea of being forced to be bisexual? What aspects of it do you focus on in fantasy?
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No.6723
>>6720
Quite the contrary in my case:
>be "experimenting" in high school while being androphobic
>experiment more recklessly than Dr.Hyde
>turn into full blown lesbo by college
>after college hormones kick in and want a normalish family and a life as a housewife
>find an intimidating-looking alpha guy who's bit of a "player" in hope of a normal life and subconsciously also threesomes
>plan goes terribly right, exploiting my androphobia and his alphaness he breaks me into a total sub quean that gets off more to him cucking me than actively participating iin threesomes
>he even "punishes" me for "cheating on him" with girls we fuck together to the point of even scaring couple of vixens away
>first child is born
>he gets all husbandy and proper good daddy and haven't been cucked for 8 months now
>mfw I need my fix
>mfw I am on the threshold of cucking him with the first dykeslut that accidentally passes by our house
>mfw my body is not ready for the consequences
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No.6727
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No.6731
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No.6736
>>6727
>>6731
It's true. >>6723 did the correct thing by submitting herself to cock for breaking so her degenerate lesbo urges could find a healthy outlet in cuckqueaning. Instead of acting out by jumping the next dyke she sees, she should instead treat this as a challenge of denial while abandoning any dignity she has left by regularly begging for her hubby to cuck her like the hopeless addict to freshly-fucked pussy that she is.
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No.6738
>>6723
Do you still know any of your vixens? Nothing will get him back into action like seeing a long-lost playmate brought back. Just try not to get too frisky with her before your husband comes home, or you could be in for more punishment.
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No.6739
>>6723
>getting attention-cucked by your own children
kek
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No.6744
>>6723
It's like you were forced-bi in a totally different way from the anon >>6720 was getting at. Forced-straight almost. This post did a number of me to be honest. I think whatever is going on it's almost certainly true your happier as you are and with a kid. So it's awesome you found your true self and met him at the same time.
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No.6752
>>6744 (checked)
It's not without precedent. We've already heard tell of a few girls who mainly like girls who for whatever reason have still decided they need to serve a man. >>4689 and >>5233 in particular come to mind.
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No.6755
>>6723
Do it. Cheat on him, but do it in a way such that he will find out (but make it look like you're trying to hide it). When he confronts you, break down in tears and beg for forgiveness.
If all goes right, he will punish you with more cucking.
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No.6761
>>6738
One from his work but he's kinda trying to ditch her after he fucked her a handful of times, so he would get for real angry at me if I tried to do bring her back into our relationship, plus she's kinda slow and sort of tricked into it with my pregnancy as an excuse and I feel like we are exploiting her, nowhere near being a saint but she has some naive kindness elements that combined with her denseness make her kinda adorable, so I will feel very bad if it backfires.
>>6755
That's good as a fantasy but I will probably fuck it up if I try to do something so complicated.
>>6744
>So it's awesome you found your true self and met him at the same time.
I always wanted a normal traditional family. It just happened I also liked girls a bit more aesthetically pleasing than men and certainly much less intimidating.
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No.6772
>>6761
The birth of their first child changes things for men almost as much as it does for women. He has other priorities now, and is probably trying to live up to a new ideal. Dumb question, but what did he say if you've talked about this with him? It could simply be that he doesn't have the time or inclination at the moment to find new vixens to cuck you with.
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No.6833
>>6731
Can't. Stop. The Cock.
Can't Stop The Cock.
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No.6845
>>6761
Aw, that's sad that you don't have any vixens to bring home to restart your cuckqueaning. It's pretty difficult to find a girl that would be down for fucking a guy she never met, so I don't think there's much you can do until he starts initiating things again. For now, just think of the lack of the threesomes you loves as a deeper form of cuckqueanhood.
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No.6867
>>6755
This is the worst post I have ever read on /cuckquean/.
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No.6877
>>6761
>she has some naive kindness elements that combined with her denseness make her kinda adorable
I've had vixens like this before. The sweet, kind ones are such a mix.
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No.6955
Who here wants to be in the harem?
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No.6956
>>6955
Read the fucking thread.
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No.6957
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No.6988
>>6955
Who let the gook in?!
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No.6992
>>6988 (Checked)
Anon, the consensus seems to be that it's a good idea to let some "gooks" as you call them into harems. I think a brunette, a blonde, a redhead and an asian girl is probably the perfect starter harem for any white guy.
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No.6994
>>6992
And I believe that so much I expressed it in caption form.
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No.6995
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No.6997
>>6995
Yes, but it's also a template. I think those proportions are ideal. Others may disagree, for example believing their should be a black girl too. It depends on personal preferences but there should definitely always be some asian girls.
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No.6998
>>6997
I think it's great the way it is.
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No.7003
>>6994
Who let the gook in?
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No.7005
>>7003
Stop being silly anon.
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No.7010
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No.7011
>>6992
>>6994
Sorry Anon, but I'll only accept a carefully-selected Japanese woman in a white man's harem. The rest of the Asian races are useful only as disposable toys, with strict protection to ensure their desire to breed upwards doesn't lead to miscegenation.
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No.7012
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>7005
>>7010
BOIL THE RICE PAY THE PRICE
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No.7014
>>6955
>>6994
Don't be sloppy. Their vaginas must be properly aligned.
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No.7015
>>7010
While I can't say I approve of the asian worship, I can kind of sympathize with why she might find herself doing it. It must be hard to discover you have the sort of fetishes where you like to be seen as inferior, but not to have any races that are actually superior to your own. I guess picking number two and playing pretend isn't the worst thing she could do.
>>7014
I laughed at that more than I would feel comfortable admitting anywhere but here.
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No.7019
>>7010
Don't use the same images in multiple posts. Interesting blog though.
>>7011 (Checked)
Why does almost everyone think the Japanese are the best?
>>7014
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No.7020
>>6955
>>6992
>>6994
>no sweet sweet dark chocolate girls
4/10
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No.7021
>>7020
What about Indian girls, latinas and everyone else? People ignore them but don't they have a place too? It's down to personal taste unless you think there should be some kind of legal minimum harem. I personally don't think governments should interfere.
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No.7052
Why not a harem OF asian girls?
>>7021
>Govt. issued harems
What would that even achieve?
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No.7068
>>6720
Sorry for replying so late. (I'm >>5317 and >>6570
)
For me it's more about the relationship than about pure sexuality. I like the idea of my sexuality to be based on submission, if that makes sense, and for my close relationships to naturally become sexually charged in a scenario in which I am a sex object myself.
Rather than forced bisexuality, think of it as a scenario in which each girl's latent bi leanings are awakened and encouraged.
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No.7074
>>7052
I don't have a problem with that apart from to say I think white men should have white children. So either there has to be at least one white girl in the harem or, if she's not part of it, she'd be his wife. Aside from that issue, I also think a harem of asian girls would be happier under the control of a white man and white woman.
>What would that even achieve?
I don't know. I don't think it's necessary.
>>7068
>each girl's latent bi leanings are awakened and encouraged
That's a nice way of putting it but if it was real then I think there would be several girls without such latent feelings. I know some people will say "all girls are secretly bi" but I don't believe that. None of that matters in a fantasy though.
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No.7080
>>7074
I agree with you the harem reaches it's greatest potential with at least one white women. But the fundamental duty of a white man is to spread as many copies of his white chromosomes as possible.
For a given population of stable size, all white men are at par if they each give two sets of chromosomes to the next generation (i.e., two kids). If white men as a whole are giving more than two chromosomes each, the population is getting more white.
That means that a white man with five gooks and ten hapa babies has contributed more than a guy with one white wife and two white babies.
>I know some people will say "all girls are secretly bi"
All girls are secretly conformists. If you put a new girl in a situation with two girls who are making out, the new girl will feel like kissing girls is normal and fun - she mainly wants to fit in.
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No.7124
>>7074
>>7080
You /pol/ niggers are so weird.
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No.7127
>>7124
>pure logic is weird
You should probably drop the (((relativist))) literature for a while, sis.
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No.7128
>>7080
>That means that a white man with five gooks and ten hapa babies has contributed more than a guy with one white wife and two white babies.
You fail to take in account that the hapas do not count to the perseverance of White genome since it's nearly impossible to naturally distill White descendants out of a hapa population regardless of how high the frequency of White chromosomes there is and even if you do you will have a highly inbred White population.
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No.7129
>>7128
And that's not counting horizontal gene-exchange between homozygous chromosomes that would forever dilute the White genome beyond repair, but to be fair I'm not certain of how often that occurs in humans and higher animals in general.
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No.7130
>>7129
If you're speaking of what's termed Chromosomal Crossover, then the answer is that it happens every time a reproductive cell (ovum or sperm) is created by meiosis (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromosomal_crossover). It's a routine part of all sexual reproduction, and is one of the reasons that chromosomes do not persist "intact" through a lineage. A hapa might (roughly speaking) carry one set of "white chromosomes" and one set of "asian chromosomes", but any sexual cell they produce will be a melange of the two, meaning the "white" chromosome is not meaningfully preserved in any sense.
I suspect the idea of "white chromosomes" being distillable back out of a mixed population comes from an over-application of high school level biology, where generally only Mendelian inheritance (Punnett squares etc.) is taught because it's easy to digest and test. Most characteristics are not Mendelian at all, and the study of alleles tells one nothing of the higher mechanisms at work in genetics.
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No.7131
>>7128
Asians aren't genetically distant enough or degenerate enough for this to be a major problem. 1/16 jap is so fucking irrelevant when the likeliest thing is white genocide.
In fact, having a slightly higher variety of simple polymorphisms which achieve the same goal (i.e., balanced selection for higher IQ and conscientiousness, pale skin) could be a good thing - it makes it easier to get a whiter population in the long run.
>>7129
>>7130
The fact they happen so often is precisely why it's irrelevant, fam. The ones with undesirable chink traits are gonna be subject to negative selection pressure, which will target those traits more and more precisely as smaller and smaller haplogroups of yellow remain on each chromosome.
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No.7134
>>7131
>Asians aren't genetically distant enough or degenerate enough for this to be a major problem. 1/16 jap is so fucking irrelevant when the likeliest thing is white genocide.
My direct experience only extends through the Far East and South East Asia (no Middle East or Subcontinent), but many Asian races are degenerate or subpar or both. If you have a child with most Koreans, for example, you may as well be inseminating a Jew. Chinese very much live up to the "soulless chink" stereotype (with the exception of Taiwanese due to the Japanese influence/admixture and some Hong Kong elites thanks to British influence/admixture). Japanese still maintain a very strong racial consciousness which limits the available population for mixing (they'll happily hop on white cock for a thrill-ride but most regard actual interracial mixing or marriage as a bad move).
As far as I can tell, your proposal is to create hapa children to make up for white children. Hapa women seem to do OK, but being a hapa male seems quite disadvantageous. I wouldn't want to sentence my sons to being hapa.
>The ones with undesirable chink traits are gonna be subject to negative selection pressure, which will target those traits more and more precisely as smaller and smaller haplogroups of yellow remain on each chromosome.
Most modern selection pressures come from a population itself, i.e. the traits that are found attractive by its women. The pressures that produced "whiteness" over millennia no longer apply, which is (only) one reason that the already minority worldwide population of whites is dwindling. There's no such thing as a "haplogroup of yellow" which can be gradually weeded out - race is a complex bundle of interlocking factors. You don't get a pure white 25% of the time that two first-gen hapas breed.
The reasoning seems self-contradictory. These "undesirable chink traits" would only be weeded out of a population if it was only a small number of hapas in a larger population of whites, where there's plenty of white to go around. But that wouldn't be the case if white men preferentially have many hapa children, and continue to do so to make up for an increasing number of their fellows who can't or won't breed with white women. As the population skews hapa and "whiteness" becomes less distinguishable, you don't end up with a population of whites with slight asianness - you end up with a population of hapas.
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No.7135
>>7134
(One correction: Taiwanese are also as they are because they largely consisted of a particular Chinese group that was not subsequently subject to the wrecking influence of Maoism or the subsequent dilution that occurred from forced population relocation and mixing. They are the sole reason I consider some of the Chinese redeemable as a people.)
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No.7136
>>7131
>In fact, having a slightly higher variety of simple polymorphisms which achieve the same goal (i.e., balanced selection for higher IQ and conscientiousness, pale skin) could be a good thing - it makes it easier to get a whiter population in the long run
Or we could have an entire Europe of autismal spurdo-posting fingols.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finno-Ugric_languages#Population_genetics
>Modern genetic studies have shown that the Y-chromosome haplogroup N3, and sometimes N2, is almost specific though certainly not restricted to Uralic or Finno-Ugric speaking populations, especially as high frequency or primary paternal haplogroup.[16][17] These haplogroups branched from haplogroup N, which probably spread north, then west and east from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years before present from father haplogroup NO (haplogroup O being the most common Y-chromosome haplogroup in Southeast Asia).
Be very afraid….
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No.7137
>>7134
>The reasoning seems self-contradictory. These "undesirable chink traits" would only be weeded out of a population if it was only a small number of hapas in a larger population of whites, where there's plenty of white to go around.
>implying hapa girls would not swarm up to White men leaving an equal amount of hapa males as supreme gentlemen
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No.7140
>>7124
I take that as a strong compliment.
>>7137
>I wouldn't want to sentence my sons to being hapa.
I think you have the right attitude. I'll explain why and talk more generally.
Any son that doesn't look like his father could have problems. The whole relationship between father and son is immediately fucked up right from day one if he's hapa. The same applies to the mother but I'm focusing on the son here. He obviously needs that connection to his father, and vice versa if he's to reach his full potential.
That does depend a lot on the circumstances of course. I'm sure some people wouldn't have a problem with it at all. Yes, hapa males get a lot of shit but they are nowhere near as bad as blacks or muslims in terms of crime and general anti-social behaviour. In my opinion the eurasian question (or EQ) is overblown. Of course there are lots of hapa guys who do perfectly fine in life.
We can all make weird fetish posts but it's pretty obvious that, unless you have some way of not conceiving mixed sons, racemixing is generally a bad idea because it is much less preferable than sticking to your own race in terms of having children. It's about providing your children with the best possible chances and minimising risks. That sucks if you're a non-white woman who likes white guys but it's true. You're child won't ever be white, let's all admit this.
I have absolutely no problem with interracial harems or the whole white fever thing but when it comes to actual children in real life I thought I should give my real opinion.
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No.7152
>>7140
>Any son that doesn't look like his father could have problems
Unlike intebreeding with niggers that not much of an issue with hapas. They might just look like a gayer version of their father with superficial FetalAlcoholSyndrome/mongolism characteristics.
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No.7153
>>5669
>Do all men want to put a woman in her place?
No. Just the real ones.
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No.7159
>>7152
>not much of an issue
>gayer version of their father with superficial FetalAlcoholSyndrome/mongolism
OK I laughed at that. To me they look asian. It's hard to get past that and see the features that do match up. I'm not saying they are ugly, far from it, just not similar.
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No.7164
>>7127
Don't know what you're talking about when you say relativist literature. I come here for masturbatory fantasies. I don't really care about your views, I just don't like that they're not porn.
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No.7186
>>7159
When I was younger, up to my late teens, I usually had a hard time to recognize hapas as part asians, to me they looked White with something "off" of as in gay-ish in them, especially those without an epicanthic fold. For example I did not realize Keanu was half-gook until it was pointed out to me less than a decade ago whereas my jewdar was sharpened since I entered teenhood which is all the more impressive if you consider that I'm a Euro-Mediterranean and not of muslim background.
>I just don't like that they're not porn.
Porn is degenerate and a gateway drug to liberalism, anon, you should trash that jewish shit and focus on improving your imagination.
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No.7187
>>7186
>focus on improving your imagination
The type of porn they're referring to is in the imagination. But you know that.
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No.7188
>>7187
Okay. Sorry if I made things uncomfy.
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No.7196
>>7186
>Porn is degenerate and a gateway drug to liberalism, anon, you should trash that jewish shit
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No.7197
>>7186
>Porn is degenerate and a gateway drug to liberalism, anon, you should trash that jewish shit and focus on improving your imagination.
He said, while posting to a pornographic image board.
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No.7198
>>7197
Is the BO's name Goldberg?
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No.7199
>>7186
No seriously, I don't care. Just… go away. I'm trying to fap. I know you want to pretend I'm offended by your views, but I just want to fap and discuss harem fantasies not your /pol/ bullshit.
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No.7200
>>7199 (Checked)
>Just… go away. I'm trying to fap
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No.7203
To have a harem, you must also have some economic means of supporting that Harem, and you must restrict the economic opportunities of the females outside of the Harem.
My only hope of having a harem is the corporate Harem, that is you get into a top management position and then heir only women.
HOWEVER, feminism makes this much harder. By having women work and giving them rights above men, the attraction of the harem for females is minor… except for those who really have a fetish for being dominated and you have a way of bring this out.
Having a harem is even more difficult if you don't have much sexual stamina.
The best way to build a harem is to have a girl who wants to do it for you for her own fetish. Think Momo Deviluke from the series closet homo.
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No.7204
>>7203
Why aren't there any reverse harems? Why doesn't a woman have many boyfriends at the same time?
I would say this is down to the woman instinctively wanting to be dominated. Feminism is actually anti-female/feminine because it demands women give up being feminine and the pleasure of submitting to men.
As a woman wants to be dominated, only one man can really dominate her at a time, and she looks down on a man who does not mate guard as weak.
I think this is the general rule, although there are exceptions.
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No.7205
>>7204
FYI being able to mate guard a large number of sexy females in no easy task. This is why eunuchs were used to guard them. Although I suppose trained women could be used… they are vulnerable to seduction, while eunuchs are not.
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No.7206
>>7205
One last word on Feminism:
It makes it really hard for a feminine male to get a mate.
When the laws and customs strictly divide male and female, a feminine male was actually attractive because said male could be more empathetic and understanding to the female, and he was the clear superior in the relationship.
Now this is not the case. Feminine (pretty face ect) males are the lowest of the low on the totem pole (except in traditional societies like East Asia)
This is sad because if feminine males don't reproduce their will be fewer beautiful females.
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No.7207
>>7206
I say this because I'm a 'pretty boy' and the only girls interested in me without acting super macho seem to be East Asian.
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No.7208
>>7207
…and I'm more into redheads and blonds.
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No.7209
>>7206
…sorry I said lowest of the low but that's not true. The ugly (with the exception of blacks) and retarded are lowest
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No.7210
My dude, it's generally better to coalesce your ideas into one post rather than making lots in a row. You can add multiple images per post btw.
>>7207
>I'm a 'pretty boy'
Yeah, that's one word for it.
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No.7211
>>7204
Well, from a genetics/evolutionary standpoint, women don't really have a use for more than one man at a time. She can only be pregnant from one at a time, after all, so she can't really do quantity, and must favor quality.
Any reproductive strategies that involve multiple men inherently require subversion. Men who willingly enter into a polyandrous relationship are working against their own reproductive interests, which makes them poorer mates by nature.
The situation is different for men, since he can breed with multiple women at once. He's still protecting his own interests in polygyny, without necessarily negatively impact the interests of the women he's with. Him impregnating one wife doesn't stop him from also impregnating the others. His qualities as a mate are all essentially the same as when he's with one woman. He can be spread too thin trying to be a husband and father for multiple women and their children, but he can have the same sort of problem with only one woman, depending on the circumstances.
That doesn't mean that female jealousy doesn't have any function. Protecting territory and resources can make sense. But it always makes sense for men.
There's always exceptions that pop up, and the fetishes wherein a woman has multiple men do seem to be going into a sort of role-reversal. Without getting into anything too Freudian, we probably could apply the term 'penis envy' to some of them.
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No.7212
>>7206
If you're pretty enough, you could always go full femboy and be part of a harem that way.
I kid. But you could try growing a beard, if you can. I know some guys just don't have the genes for quality facial hair, but if you can get something decent going, that always helps.
That or try to get an asian cuckquean. Having a woman already seems to make women more to you. Like the idea that he's taken makes them think he's worth something. Of course, then you have to deal with all the problems that men here have listed with finding a vixen, like how they get weird when they find out about the dynamic (for some reason there's women that are more comfortable sleeping with a man who's cheating on his woman than a man who's with a cuckquean).
I'm just saying, having an asian girl doesn't necessarily mean you can't have a blonde or a redhead too, under the right circumstances. Getting one of those asian girls that's into you could provide with a great wingman if you choose carefully.
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No.7213
>>7211
Technically speaking this >>7181 case of poly"andry" could work. A hypermasculine alpha having an extended harem of quasi-monogamous couples of /cuteboys/ withs qt3.14s. /cuteboy/ husbands could tend for the immediate needs of the wives while the stallion is too busy kicking ass and running shit.
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No.7214
>>7210
?
I just have a pretty face like a pretty girl instead of a manly face or fugly face. I'm sorry but I don't understand your suggestion gomenasai~
Also I dun really give eh fuck
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No.7215
>>7212
Eh but I really hate body hair, and a beard looks disgusting on me, even a full one… that's how I feel at least. Others don't seem to have the same revulsion.
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No.7216
>>7215
Also way to late to be a transgirl lol
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No.7217
>>7212
I totally know what you mean, women like a guy that other women like. So if you with a girl other girls will take interest even if you're not really interested. I plan to use this to great effect in the future.
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No.7222
>>7213
Yeah, but only in a completely technical sense. The cuteboys are not really acting as men in that case, but like non-reproducing women. They don't get to impregnate any females or have any sort of penetrative sex with them.
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No.7223
>>7222
If I had a harem, I wouldn't mind share with my kids honestly… Fun for the whole family~
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No.7224
>>7222
Most /cuteboys/ are actually bi so I don't know about this.
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No.7225
My harem would be structured in such a way as to allow raceplay. It also would be unusual in that clothing would be unusual in that nudity would be a symbol of status and clothing would be a symbol of subservience.
Tier 3: This would be the low tier. All the women of the harem enter through here, but only whites and asians may progress from this point. At this tier, the master of the harem only occasionally has sex with the women, and any children that they have are born into the servant class. They wear tunics which are open at the front to leave their breasts and pussy exposed, but their main function is as companions for higher-tiered women.
Tier 2: After a tier 3 woman has proven herself to be a worthy lover, she may advance to tier 2. at tier 2, the women are mostly naked at all times, but wear thin pieces of fabric across their shoulders and over their ass, creating a "bikini" that is open in the front. They have sex with the master semi-regularly, and any children they have are treated as full-fledged citizens. They answer directly to the tier 1 girls.
Tier 1: Once a girl becomes a favorite of the master, she advances to tier 1. Girls at tier 1 are completely naked at all times. The lower-tier girls act as servants to them, and any children they have are considered to be nobles. They have sex with the master regularly. Asians cannot progress beyond this point.
Wives: There are only a very few wives, and each of them has their own "mini-harem" made up from the girls of the lower tiers. Not only are they naked at all times, but the mini-harem makes sure that their hair is always done up in intricate and beautiful fashions, their makeup is perfect, and their skin is pristine and flawless. The master has sex with them at least once a week and usually more, and their children are considered royals. whenever they are not having sex with the master, their mini-harem keeps them pleasured and entertained.
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No.7226
>>7223
Well, depending on how that plays out, it doesn't really count. What's best for your kids is best for you, genetically. Of course, if they're fucking people related to them, that's good for no one.
>>7224
Not really sure what you're getting at.
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No.7227
>>7226
Nothing in particular. LOL
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No.7228
I just wanted to say, this is a fun thread. I'm starting to enjoy posting on image boards more than actually watching anime. Something is wrong with me.
Good night Harem Kings and Cuckqueans~
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No.7232
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No.7236
some of you guys' wish has been granted by a japanese author.
there is a web novel which features a CUCKQUEAN YANDERE heroine.
she kind of "mind-control" other women to become her boyfriend's harem
her goal is to make a harem for him
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No.7239
>>7236
Does this web novel have a name?
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No.7241
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No.7245
>>7236
Tu Love Ru Darkness
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No.7249
>>4852
Honestly, I have a plan for my harem, and I'm trying to work towards it, but I think it will take a while, The basic idea is to use a cult to create the rules for the harem and 'legitimize' it in the minds of the members.
>>4858
Yuri + Harem is the best combination.
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No.7252
>>7249
Do male cult members get their own harems or is it all for just you?
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No.7253
>>7252
I would have a franchise / cell system so yes.
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No.7272
>>7239
eh wtf i forgot to include the name its
"Ore No osanajimi wa Joshikousei de Yuusha"
i even have a feeling that it going towards Yandere harem
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No.7288
>>7134
>many Asian races are degenerate or subpar or both.
True, I mean East Asians, not Malays and Negritos and god knows what
>If you have a child with most Koreans, for example, you may as well be inseminating a Jew.
True. And again: 10 mischlings > 2 pure white babies
>As far as I can tell, your proposal is to create hapa children to make up for white children.
No, I'm saying to maximize the white population in the long term, maximize white chromosomes in each generations. When a white man has more children, that helps even if the mother is yellow.
>I wouldn't want to sentence my sons to being hapa.
I don't understand… like you just don't want to deal with them? Or you think those boys would be happier if they were full asian?
>The reasoning seems self-contradictory. These "undesirable chink traits" would only be weeded out of a population if it was only a small number of hapas in a larger population of whites, where there's plenty of white to go around. But that wouldn't be the case if white men preferentially have many hapa children, and continue to do so to make up for an increasing number of their fellows who can't or won't breed with white women. As the population skews hapa and "whiteness" becomes less distinguishable, you don't end up with a population of whites with slight asianness - you end up with a population of hapas.
You don't understand my point at all. The reason why you make the population whiter by having more kids, regardless of who the mother is, is because there are a finite number of women and they have a finite number of children each.
>>7140
>Any son that doesn't look like his father could have problems.
You have an unrealistic hyper-modern attitude that grows out of tiny families with one son where that son is the focus of all paternal attention and is treated as a vehicle for the father's identity and bloodline.
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No.7315
>>7288 (Checked)
>You have an unrealistic hyper-modern attitude that grows out of tiny families with one son where that son is the focus of all paternal attention and is treated as a vehicle for the father's identity and bloodline.
You sound like a huge cuckold with such a statement. Where do you get this only one son thing from? They are a vehicle for a heck of a lot more than just identity and bloodline. Maybe we just run in entirely different circles and so I have a hard time understanding what you mean.
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No.7319
>>7315
I'm not ignorant, I read a lot of history, I know that there were many societies where sons who had no chance of living up to the example of their fathers went on to brilliant careers. When a man has five sons, it's clear that none of them are identical to their father and they each embody his gifts and personality in a different way.
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No.7345
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No.7755
>tfw most appealing part of a harem is having a big cuddlefest and all that lovey-dovey stuff
I'm not saying I wouldn't fuck anyone, don't get me wrong, but I just want to make a whole bunch of people I love happy. Am I doing it wrong?
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No.7756
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No.7757
>>7345
>1st pic
Seriously, nigger?
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No.7758
>>7755
the vixens are gonna have a field-day on you, boy
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No.7761
>>7757
>reads like an MPC troll twitter username
>it's actually real
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No.7772
>>7761
You know that thing where sometimes mixed race people get sort of a hybrid vigor, but in hotness?
Yeah, that didn't happen here.
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No.7780
>>7772
That can happen when white men impregnate Japanese girls. But Black x anything usually comes out bad. Except perhaps Black x Jew and Black x Chinese ^^
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No.7793
>>7772
>hybrid vigor
I don't think that is a real thing.
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No.7794
>>7793
Hercules the Liger would beg to differ.
I don't know enough about biology to really weigh in on Heterosis. And I only mention its other name because I want to point out that the adjective to describe something with hybrid vigor is heterotic, and it made me giggle.
Of course, either way, it wouldn't really apply to biracial humans because they're still the same species.
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No.7795
>>7780
Meh, I've seen some WhitexBlack folks who were pretty hot.
De Niro's problem is his wife looks like a frying pan. No way those kids were coming out attractive.
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No.7804
>>7794
It's gigantism due to hormonal instability, same reason they are borderline infertile. It would not be an advantage in the wild in any other way than potential cleptoparisitism from other predators or if the started preying solely on bears.
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No.7805
>>7761
So De Niro's dad was a gaylord and this character jumped a generation with his younger son becoming the mulatto version of the cockmongler?
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No.7811
>>7805
>De Niro Honored My Gay Granddad
>Mulatto Cockmongler
The usernames keep coming.
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No.7830
>>7761
Btw what unholy mongrel abomination is that thing he calls his "wife"? Looks like a mix between the ugliest tribes of injun minus Andeans and a pan-African clusterfuck of predominantly San-bushmen and the most heavily influenced by archaic non-sapiens hominids Congoids with a touch of Austronesian denisovans.
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No.7838
>>7756
oh, th-thanks
>>7758
OH, SHIT. I'm gonna get teased so bad aren't I. Not the mean kind of teasing. I assume, anyway. I admit I'm more vanilla than most here, and what others consider "light humilation" is what I consider "OH GOD I'M SO SORRY." So if I'm doing it wrong, correct me.
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No.7839
>>7838
>teasing
I mean, if you wanna call it that.
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No.7931
>>7019
>Why does almost everyone think the Japanese are the best?
Confucians are not human
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No.7973
>>7772
>>7780
>>7795
Let's be fair here, DeNiro was never very attractive himself, even in his youth. Those kids got the short end of the stick from both chromosomes.
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No.8014
>>7772
>>7793
>>7794
That hybrid vigor thing sound awfully like the propaganda spewed by interracial fetishists to justify/push for their kink…
Hybrid "vigor" is supposed to occur in species with heavily depleted genepool, such as zoo animals (cheetah, etc)
Against that idea, there is the real life case for humans in Iceland, where people are genetically extremely related, and they have:
- very good health (both general and genetical)
- superior body function
- higher fertility (both males and females).
So, no, hybrid vigor is not a thing, at least in humans.
In fact, it seems to work the exact opposite, as for biracial couple, the offspring is not as adapted as any of its parent to any specific environment.
Case in point: human bi-racial kids are more prone to diseases than any of their parents (both physical and mental) albeit slightly less on the genetical level (but only for the 1st generation tough).
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No.8112
What if white people had converted to Islam instead of Christianity? What would the world look like today? Granted the Bible isn't against polygamy but Christians turned against it anyway, and Islam is more blatant about allowing it. Could make a good alt-history setting.
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No.8114
>>8112
>What if white people had converted to Islam instead of Christianity?
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No.8121
>>8112
See>>8114 If white people had converted to islam we had destroyed each other and take the rest of humanity with us
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No.8123
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>>8114
>Europe-wide albania
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No.8195
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No.8225
What about a harem with the one guy as the lowest rank?
The mistress decides who gets to use him when and he has no say in it.
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No.8226
>>8225
That would be like shota harems, he'll be drowning in pussy 24/7 and couldn't resist their love. They'll be playful and constantly teasing his shota dick.
Or just a regular harem where the wife chooses his mistresses and they use him when she commands.
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No.8229
>>8225
I'm not sure where the harem comes into play here.
It also feels like that doesn't make sense. If you're sharing you're not at the top. The one who gets multiple girls is of the highest rank, even if the girls in question are very domineering. The dynamic as you describe it sounds really strange.
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No.8230
>>8229
It sort of departs from believability, since there's no clear impetus on what would make these girls so interested in him. Which admittedly is also where most harem anime fail, too. That's why he's usually assigned some hereditary status or contrived magical bullshit to handwave it.
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No.8231
>>8230
And on top of that, the dynamics of relationships between males and females are not mirrorable. Even if that male was immensely attractive, women are not going to flock to a male who is at the bottom of the power dynamic.
Women look for a protector, not someone to protect. They don't want to have sex with a man that they're mothering. They want to be dominated and to be shared, not to dominate and to share.
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No.8237
>>8231
>female sexual psychology is always 100% a certain way
It makes no sense for them to not have varied and semi-malleable tastes, the same way men do. Of course they have a tendency to sway a certain way due to their biological impulses (find a protector with good genes for the baby). However, most women admit to being at least a little bit aroused by the sight of sexy naked girls. There are also female child touchers, who are rarely caught due to preying almost exclusively on kids with no power over them. Such as a son, or a child in their care.
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No.8251
>>8237
It's only natural to fuck your son. Gets him ready to please a woman and strengthens your bond. Sage for offtopic.
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No.8283
>>5006
>4 girls is the magic number
absolutely halal.
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No.8605
What's your opinion on the man paying for everything for the women, aka "sugar daddy/babies" relationships? To me this is the most feasible way to maintain a harem.
Yet I'm having trouble distancing the idea from "financial domination" of beta providers. Does it just depend on how the man dominantly presents himself?
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No.8613
>>8605
>What's your opinion on the man paying for everything for the women, aka "sugar daddy/babies" relationships? To me this is the most feasible way to maintain a harem.
I don't know, you get economic benefits as more people live together. Rent + utilities, for example, are fairly fixed as costs go (obviously you'll need to a pay a bit more for a larger house but many rooms can be shared if you're acting as husband + wives). Cooking also gets cheaper if you can do it in bulk and I doubt you'd ever have to pay for childcare, housework or travel (always someone to drive you somewhere).
>Yet I'm having trouble distancing the idea from "financial domination" of beta providers. Does it just depend on how the man dominantly presents himself?
The man's (lack of) obligations could be formalised depending on which legal system you live in. Also in a situation with multiple women there is much less scope for controlling a man's money: you can't deny sex, companionship or similar, she's only got the nuclear option of divorce and even that can be covered (again depending on which country you're in).
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No.8615
>Also in a situation with multiple women there is much less scope for controlling a man's money: you can't deny sex, companionship or similar
That's a good point. Thanks anon
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No.8617
>>8605
>Yet I'm having trouble distancing the idea from "financial domination" of beta providers. Does it just depend on how the man dominantly presents himself?
I would say that even "financial domination" is still a step above "beta provider." One type of findom even mirrors a traditional relationship: the woman is in charge of the household because she is the mother, the man is in charge of everything outside of it. Meanwhile, the type of findom that you are thinking of is literally just middle class sugardaddies with a humiliation fetish.
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No.8621
>>8617
>the woman is in charge of the household
You mean she's in charge of cooking, cleaning, and raising children right? Yes I agree.
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No.8623
>>8621
First of all, I was not talking about my own political views. You goose.
Second, no, her taking on those responsibilities would give her the right to authority over household matters. Why would she accept responsibilities without gaining rights? Unless she's hardcore into domination fetishism, you're just asking for relationship trouble.
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No.8635
>>8230
Speaking of poor harem animes featuring a betafag protagonist with no game, what are some examples of actually good ones?
Trinity Seven comes to mind. The male protagonist is smart, powerful and has some game with his girls. Plus the schoolgirl uniforms are hot.
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No.8656
>>8605
Why have the man pay for everything?
Why not, instead, put the harem to work? The master would get each harem member employed. He'd set up an arrangement such that all the earnings go directly into his pocket.
He'd be free to use those earnings as he pleased. They wouldn't be in a treasury, but rather, just in his pocket. If he wanted to use that money to buy a nice yacht, he'd be free to do so. After all, each harem girl is his property - it's his right to profit from the fruits of their labor.
The other upside is that it makes life more pleasant for the girls, too, as they now have something to do other than be cooped up in the harem all day. It would also help enforce the domination aspect, with the master having total control of the money and the girl having no access to it at all.
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No.8672
>>8656
He'd set up their direct deposit with one of his bank accounts. The girls in the harem could get suitably slutty jobs like Hooters girl, promo model, stripper, or camwhore.
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No.8673
>>8672
*slutty for only their man and each other, I shouldn't have to add
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No.8680
>>8656
As long as the work isn't too hard. Though if you have a big harem you could divide the work more easily. No one wants to have their women come home, tired and maybe even calloused from work, and not prepared to satisfy their master's needs.
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No.8681
>>8673
Yeah, you were getting dangerously close to 'pimp', there.
I do agree that the sugar daddy route isn't great. Not only isn't unrealistic for most men, it will lend itself to women finding men who are lacking in positive qualities other than money, and men finding women lacking in positive qualities other than being pretty. It's not a system that brings out the best in anyone.
As far as the girls having slutty jobs, I think this depends on their ranking in the harem. I initially balked at the idea of a harem member being something like a camwhore when I first heard in mentioned in another thread, but I can see how it might work as a member of the harem, but it would say something about her position.
The top girl has to be respectable. Educated, have a real job, be someone he can be seen with. Can't be attending some fancy dinner for work with a trashy slut on his arm. This is probably going to be the one he'd be officially, legally married to.
The other ones can have slutty jobs, so long as it isn't something where other men put their hands on them. Something like stripper is sort of borderline, depends on the establishment.
Girls in this position would have to be especially submissive, or they could disrupt the balance. Some jobs like this can pay a surprising amount if they're any good. You don't want them to start thinking that the portion of the income they provide is going to mean anything in their household status.
Personally, though, I think starting a 'family' business would be a good way to go. You've got all that free labor, after all. Especially if it's something where a little T&A will get you more business.
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No.8697
>>8680
>>8672
>>8681
The actual idea I had in mind when I suggested that the girls be made to work is more like the jobs in Slave Maker, if you've ever played that. They're jobs that are distinctly feminine in nature and have some sexuality, but are not outright slutting it out.
Probably the sluttiest I would go is the equivalent of a Hooter's waitress. A promo model at a trade show would also have potential. Nothing that requires sex - in fact, I would strictly forbid it, and enforce it with chastity if necessary.
I also like the idea of opening a cafe that would be run by the girls. The top girls would be the managers, the bottoms would be the serving girls.
While it runs counter to my earlier statements, I might allow some sex if it's in an environment I could administer. In this case I would likely ban vaginal and have all the girls wear chastity.
This is also a good way to turn my harem into "trophies" and put them on display. Their provocative outfits would be used a way for me to flaunt the female bodies that are my property, and I would likely design each girl's outfit to emphasize the best aspects of her body.
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No.8749
>yeah I want a harem completely devoted to me
>except maybe other men can look at their bodies, yeah, I'm just "showing them off", haha, stupid other men
>and maybe touch their bodies, no harm done, right? They're still - mine -
>and maybe stick other men's penises in their mouths, and perhaps ass, I mean as long as it's not vaginal it doesn't really count! They're all just doing it because of how loyal they are to me!
is this a thinly veiled cuck(male) thread?
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No.8750
>>8697
The second image sells me on your idea. The forth one definitely not.
>>8749
I don't know why you posted a blank image but I think you're reading too much into this. Has anyone actually posted or implied what you claim? I might have missed it. Don't tell me that women don't like to show off how great their man is a vice versa. The posts in this thread are just an extreme version of that. I've seen lots of posts where people fantasise about cuckqueaning being normalised.
I do agree the girls being in clothes that are too revealing is not right. That's very subjective though.
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No.8752
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No.8770
I think the most realistic way to start a harem for non-fundamentalists/Muslims is to:
1) To find a bisexual girlfriend/wife who shares a significant interest, or get her interested after you make love to her
2) Create a group/circle where you are the clear absolute leader centered around that interest, Most important is that you control the boarders of the group/circle- you alone can chose who joins, and you can kick members.
3) Make it a rule to meet in a private place at the same time every week for at least an hour.
4) Distinguish your group from the competition.
Have some real exchange of value.
5) Recruit your second member you want to have babies with.
6) Both should flirt with her casually, but also show affection between each other, but not too much to scare her off.
7) Continue to up the 'pressure' with random breaks.
8) Have a high energy event at night with alcohol, play a dare game or twister, or anything that involves convient close physical contact.
9) Have *hot sex* and invite her to the harem.
10) Repeat steps 2-9 for member #3… and as big as you can/want your harem to be.
BTW I'm a virgin for reasons so all this is theoretical. I think the hardest part is finding the first girl who you're attracted to and interested in a harem plan- Momo Deviluke.
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No.8772
>>8770
You're saying create a club and only let girls join it so you and your girlfriend can scope them out? That is nothing more than a cult! I feel you are glossing over that part.
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No.8773
>>8772
Not him but I'd run a cult, seems like a laugh really. Many of them do seem to end up with a pretty heavy harem focus anyway.
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No.8774
>>8773
Yes it might be fun. I have a feeling some of us are crazy enough to actually do it. We already kind of operate as a pseudo-cult online anyway.
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No.8783
>>8772
>cuckquean cult
that sounds like a bitching idea, anon
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No.8784
>>8772
>irrational sheepish moral fags
Sorry, I haven't been having a good year. To answer your question:
It's different from a cult in that no supernatural claims are made. It's more like a club/circle that you use to attract girls to hunt, and then using social dynamics (peer pressure and the conformity principle) to make the process easier.
Also even if it is a cult. Who da fuq cares? The world is/has been controlled by cults since the beginning. What is Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Communism, Fractional reserve banking?
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No.8786
>>8784
The way cults are defined nowadays has more to do with specific methods of function, rather than spiritual dogma. Redirecting a person's work and resources, separation from outside support systems, authoritarianism, hostile response to skepticism, tribalism, etc. You know, tumblr crap.
Real cults are not fun. It sounds like you all just want a specific kind of community, not an actual cult.
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No.8788
>>8784
>>8786
I think I would like to start an actual cult. However I would be very honest about what it is to prospective members. I think supernatural claims and all that stuff is fun. I have learned that some of the strategies various extremist weirdos use could be useful. I'd like to make clear though my aim would be to make the cultist's lives better.
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No.8791
>>8788
>to make clear though my aim would be to make the cultist's lives better.
Yeah, they all do that. No cult tells you it's a trap. People join them because they're desperate, so they'll jump on anything.
Most cult behavior involves being pretty horrible to other people. It demands that you have a lot of charisma and very little conscience.
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No.8794
>>8791
I will only ever be completely honest with my flock. I openly admit honesty is just another manipulation technique, and I will tell them that. I am going to the next level.
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No.8797
>>8794
You have to have a flock first, and this 'I'm totes trying to manipulate you, take it or leave it' approach isn't the best sales pitch.
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No.8798
>>8797
I think I could get away with it. Besides has it even been tried before? It could be a paradigm shift in the world of cults.
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No.8811
>>8770
>the most realistic way to start a harem for non-fundamentalists
I wonder, wouldn't it be the most practical and realistic to simply become a fundamentalist, e.g. a Mormon?
+Beautiful, wholesome, loyal girls
+Harem
+Job guarantee (like all insular religious communities, they are a bit nepotistic)
+Space Jesus
-Kinky sex is probably not so welcome
Maybe those relentless bicycle-propagandists were trying to help you all along, /cuckquean/? Anyway, father says I have to log off the devil box now, talk to you soon.
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No.8812
>>8794
>I will only ever be completely honest with my flock. I openly admit honesty is just another manipulation technique, and I will tell them that. I am going to the next level.
What is this moralfaggotry? Just exploit them for every penny they're worth. jk
That sounds nice and kind, anon. Can I join?
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No.8814
>>8811 (dubs checked)
Problem is you're mixing up the regular LDS mormons (bicyclists, chick-fil-a) with the fundamenalists (compounds, child brides). The normals don't practice polygamy anymore, the fundies are a already cultists, and they probably don't let in many men not born in their communities. They already have a tendency to push out a portion of young men that -are- born there. As simple math would tell you, they experience a problem with male-to+female ratios.
Also, probably not cool with girl-girl stuff either, so what the fuck is the point?
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No.8817
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No.8818
>>5207
I can barely handle one child in the house; you would have me add three more? Spoken like a true bachelorfag with no idea of how jealous and possessive and hostile women truly are.
Best of luck, fggt!
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No.8821
>>8812
Yes but you have to be either hot, wealthy or have useful skills. I will exploit whichever you posses for my own pleasure and to recruit more members.
>>8818
What does the fact that you "can barely handle one child" have to do with "how jealous and possessive and hostile women truly are"?
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No.8824
>>8821
>What does the fact that you "can barely handle one child" have to do with "how jealous and possessive and hostile women truly are"?
I believe he was calling the women childlike/children. This is of course silly: even if it is your opinion that all women are like this rather than a significant minority women faced with competition have significantly less scope to be childish anyway. Also children (and by extension women, if we follow this idea) can be dealt with effectively if you understand punishment + reward.
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No.8826
>>8824
That makes sense. I misunderstood the post.
I agree with your point about competition. Many people are interested in self improvement and recognise their faults. Both men and women try to correct their own stereotypical bad behaviour once they become aware of it. For example books about reclaiming femininity in a positive and family oriented way have sold in their millions. Being a submissive or even a cuckquean can function along the same lines. In the same way lots of men look for ways to be more masculine and reliable and suppress more negative traits too. This cuckquean thing and domestic discipline are ways for a man and a women to cooperate as partners in this regard.
I think it's fair to say that when people see a misbehaving child they often blame the parents.
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No.8932
>>8818
My neighbors raised 5 kids at the same time, and the father had a full time job. Is there something wrong with your kid?
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No.8950
>>8932
He meant the woman was the kid anon.
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No.9178
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No.11775
I want to start a harem. I know I can do it, and I know I can get women to get to that kind of lifestyle. The problem is that I'm worried about how other people, family and friends, will treat the situation. I'm already noticing that as I get /fit/ and start pulling more and more women that beta providers despise me, and I imagine women I'm involved with would get harassed as well.
I don't know, it seems like kind of an iffy situation.
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No.11784
>>11775
There will be people who are mad or resentful if you have just one hot girlfriend or for all sorts of other reasons no matter what. Family or friends thinking what you are doing is wrong or immoral is a real problem however. Another is your work or business interests being damaged if people object to it.
Can it be a private thing? In a typical cuckquean setup of course your main girlfriend or wife is the cuckquean and the other women are just vixens. Anyone else doesn't necessarily see any of that happening. One of your girls should be your official girlfriend for appearances. The rest can just be housemates or something to the outside world.
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No.11810
So you're saying I should pick a girl to be my 'wife' and then just keep the other girls as sex slaves? Hmm… I'm worried that the other girls will get jealous of the 'public' girl rather quickly. I don't know, I'd rather be a bit more open about this. Making it a secret just feels kind of… beta to me.
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No.11816
>>11810
>I'm worried that the other girls will get jealous of the 'public' girl rather quickly.
Isn't that the point? Don't you want the other girls to be jealous? That way they'll treat you better to try and get your love more, and they'll unconsciously idolize your wife. Plus, they'll be in a lot of trouble if they mess with your wife, and pleasing the wife is akin to pleasing you.
Jealous or not, they'll be worshipping her eventually.
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No.11817
>>11810
Being unemployed is more beta. If you want to be open about it then everything else has to be structured around that.
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No.11825
>>11817
>Being unemployed is more beta.
If you are on welfare instead of living with your mom it's still more alpha than wagecuckoldry where you bent over for your (((boss))) like a little bitch.
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No.11831
>>11825
Pah, being a hobo with a gangstalking/flat earth youtube channel uploading only vertical videos is the true master race.
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No.11832
We have an unwritten rule against "muh dick" faggotry around here, and you stupid Chads with your talk of what's more "alpha" is getting awfully close.
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No.11839
>>11832
>not even writing down the rules
Alpha as fuck.
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No.11873
>>11816
>Isn't that the point?
Oh yeah, it is.
I guess I'll just fuck them all then.
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No.12929
>>8818
This issue is exactly why I think harems don't make sense unless they are institutionalized in some way. The modern Western woman has been so thoroughly corrupted by feminist ideals that it's almost impossible to enjoy the ideal harem dynamic.
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No.13472
>>12929
Nah, all you have to do is just fuck the feminist ideals out of here.
They're already becoming increasingly unpopular. Attractive women are starting to be a bit more critical of feminist ideas. It's going to collapse eventually.
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No.17627
When are we legalizing harems owned only by white males?
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No.17628
>>17627
The logic of that image may seem solid at first glance.
However if 1 man have 4 wives and 12 children it means that on average 6 of the kids are also male.
When they grow up there will need to be 24 girls for each of those 4 to continue the trend. It's not sustainable.
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No.17629
>>17628
There are plenty of lower class cuties for the sons to choose from
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No.17634
>>17628
Exponential growth is funny. If your population grows that quickly (four kids per woman at a reasonably young age) you can actually still give every man multiple wives even if an equal number of males and females are born. The trick is to have an age difference between the two.
If each woman has four kids or more by age 20 (to make things simple), then the population will at least double every twenty years.
If men are twenty years older on average than their mates, they can all have two wives. If they spread out their marriages and just marry new late-teen wives as the old ones pass their mid thirties, they can have as many wives as they want as long as they live long enough, and marry more and more of them each time.
I'm actually planning to write a sci-fi scenario with a similar concept when medical technology has advanced far enough that both immortality and cryonic suspension has been perfected.
Since it's a largely automated economy with a universal basic income (technically a small negative income tax bracket, in a libertarian society) and cryonic suspension is cheap, young men who don't want to slowly die of old age in a welfare poverty trap can get their immortality by just freezing themselves and setting up their bank account to automatically invest their income while they are frozen, instead of spending it on unnecessary expenses such as food, rent & robot hookers.
They wake up still young but with a lot of
saved money, and can afford to buy immortality and stopped aging before actually aging much. Because the freezing procedure involves some risks with an increased chance of death from accumulated radiation damage the longer you are frozen, the practice is much more frequent among men. So the gender ratio is very skewed despite the fact that the births are even. The men who make it end up very rich and powerful, and end up with large harems.
(The other risk component is economic downturns. If you fuck up it's possible to lose so much money that you can't afford the drugs needed to survive being unfrozen. The story isn't intended to be smut. But it does have large harems in it because it's a fun choice for worldbuilding.)
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No.17637
>>8613
If we're talking about having all the girls board together for economies of scale, then why not ditch houses, and buy a hotel? That way every girl gets her own room, and bathroom, and for anything else, there's communal areas, (that serve like living rooms), and a big fuck-off kitchen, and restaraunt, that can be used for common dining purposes. You could share a bed with the main-girl most nights, and have the other girls "come to your room" whenever you feel like variety. (or there's always orgies in the common areas), some hotels even have an in-built gym, so the girls could keep themselves fit. We could even have one of the more submissive girls act as a "maid" to all the others, going around cleaning their rooms, and making sure that they're comfortable.
>>8656
Combine this with a decent knowledge of economics, and my above plan, and this is actually a really good idea. You can get a decent, 8-bedroom hotel, for ~£400,000 (I checked a bunch of different sites to get that figure). Assume you manage to get a Mortgage, so that's 20% (£80,000) upfront, followed by monthly payments for ~10 years. So that's 120 payments adding up to 80% of £400,000. Or in other words 400,000 * 4/5 * 1/120 = 40,000 * 1/600 = 400,000/600 = just under 6,700. Divide that between the eight harem members, (assuming your lead girl shares a room with you), and that's £837.50 per girl, per month. Minimum wage = £7.50/hour, so 7.5*40*52/12 = 1,300. So, even if all your girls were making nothing-more than minimum wage, there would still be an extra £462.50, per girl, per month. Weekly shopping bill for one person is around £80, if they're careful with money, so that's £347 per month, but thanks to economies of scale, (as pointed out above), we can shrink that massively, by buying food in bulk, and cooking/eating communally. So, for utilities, food, and entertainment, there's a remaining £3,700 total. If you can't make that work, then you're just bad with cash.
If we're instead assuming that all the girls have reasonably high-paying jobs instead, (like £10/hour instead of £7.50), then you'd have enough that all nine of you could effectively live the good life.
The only question is, where do you get the initial £80,000?
>>8770
One of the spare "common" rooms in a hotel, would make for a great weekly meeting place in which to recruit, and initiate new members.
>>8697
Starting a joint "family" business seems like a nice idea, at first, but you won't be able to turn a profit, if you're competing with a bigger chain. A better idea is to do what I outlined above, get all of you working for other people, accumulate any spare money earned in your hands, and thanks to economies of scale, over time, the amount of surplus value you extract from them will be enough to purchase your own private capital. Better to take that comparatively safe route, than to risk everything by starting your own business on day one.
Also, even though strippers do make a shitload of money, and that would probably make life easier, early on. I side with >>8749 in that I think that that would defeat the purpose of being a cuckquean harem-king, and would just make you a cuck, at best, and exploitative pimp at worst.
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No.17646
>>17628
>>17629
Spare sons would settle abroad and spread the blood as much as possible.
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No.17680
>>17637
Continuing this idea with less of an emphasis on economics, because I've thought of more ideas to add, (also sorry for the tripfagging, was accidental):
Saw a thread on /r/HighSchoolDxD asking about the logistics of running a harem with eight women in it, but focusing more about how you would allocate your time between them. I didn't comment there, because everyone else there was a fucking moron, (so in other words, because Reddit) but it inspired me to do some quick calculations on the matter.
Obviously, you would need to spend at least a bit of alone time with each girl per week, or else they might end up feeling neglected. There are 168 hours in a week. Assuming you sleep 8 hours a night, that's 112 waking hours. Or, in an 8-girl harem, 14 hours per girl, (or alternatively 12 hours 26 minutes and 40 seconds per girl, with an additional 12:26:40 to spend with all of them at once).
In practice, assuming that all (or almost all) meals are eaten communally, and that that takes up about 2 hours per day, (or 14 per week), that leaves you with a total of 12 hrs and 15 mins per girl, (or 10 hrs 54mins with each girl, and the same amount of non-meal time with all of them at once).
So (rounding slightly) that's between 11, and 14 hours per girl, per week. (Or between 1.5-2 hrs/girl/day). Obviously, seeing every girl every day, and switching who you're spending time with on a bi-hourly basis would quickly becoming exhausting, and irritating, whereas breaking it up weekly, and having every girl have her own day (more or less) would be an issue in itself (not least because one girl would ineitably end up getting squeezed into the spare time of each day there), so let's say instead that you spend 3-4 hours with each girl, 3 times a week (or every other day), and that one day a week is a "family" day, where you all spend time together.
This would add up to a total of 9-12 hrs/girl/week. Which seems like just the right amount that nobody gets neglected, and nobody gets sick of each other. While also giving them all a shitload of other time with which to spend time with each other, or with harem-external friends.
This also adds up to a total of 72-96 hours spent with the girls individually over the course of a six-day week. (or 75-100% of available time, depending on whether the communal meals are a thing).
Then I realised that this time-allocation could be cross-referenced with whether every girl has to work, and if so, for how many hours/week. As pointed out in previous comment, you could hypothetically support this institution by having eight girls, all bringing in (full time) minimum wage, but you could also support it by having four with slightly high-paying professions. Before entertaining this idea further, I decided to re-do the maths with more specific data, so instead of just looking at housing costs, I looked at seven factors:
1)Income Tax & National Insurance
2)Housing costs
3)Council Tax & TV License
4)Gas & Leccy
5)Food & Sundries
6)Clothes, shoes, and beauty products.
7)Phone & Internet
Income tax is impossible to calculate without first deciding how many of these girls are working, for how much, and whether any of these people are actually legally married, so we'll skip it, and come back to it, after adding up this other shit.
Housing Costs were already worked out in my previous post (linked above). At (assuming a hotel costing £400,000 paid off in monthly installments over ten years), around £6700 per month total.
(1/2)
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No.17681
>>17680
Council Tax is determined by three factors: 1)How much the building is worth, 2)How many people live there, & 3)Whether you're eligible for any deductions. The first variable consists of a series of "Value Bands" determined by the Market Value of the building in 1991 GBP. We've established it's worth approx. £400,000, and according to the BoE inflation calculator, that's around £195,000 back then. Which places it in Band-G in Scotland, (the second highest council tax bracket). (Note, you could change this by breaking the eight rooms up into eight individual flats, at which point each would be taxed separately, with a separate band, but as I have no fucking idea how a single hotel-room (with bathroom) functioning as a flat would be valued under this system, or if such a thing would even be legal, I'm not going to take that notion into consideration here). Your council tax varies from local council to local council, but a decent estimate on a Band-G property is around £3,000/year, (or £250/month) if we include the additional water & Sewage costs. Since there are more than two people living there, and I don't see why any of them would apply for a discount, we can accept this number without any additional calculations for the other two factors. TV License is always £150.50/year, so no calculations there, either.
Gas & Leccy is kind of hard to calculate, but according to some figures I aggregated from various Student-Housing forumns, and Power-Saving PSAs, it should be about £900/year to pay for both. (The costs rise with each new person, but the amount by which they rise gets exponentially smaller, the larger the group gets, the most I could find reliable data for was a 5-person house, so £900 is an educated guess)
Phone and Internet - Apparently hotels logistically require one WAP per 8 rooms, so we'll only need one, if you're willing to stick to deal with crappy internet in the communal areas. Since there'll be 4-9 people online at any given time, you'll need the fastest download speed commercially available, which is Virgin Media, so £48/month, (or £576/year). Phone plans are a bit trickier. You can add up to five people to a family/friends plan on most services, so we could get two of those, and that would save money. Best deal on that front would be the BT Family SIM plan, which is (depending on data usage) £38-£93/month (or £456-£1116/year) for a five person plan, and £33-£79 per month (or £396-£948/year) for a a four person plan. So, combined, for nine people, it would cost £852-£2064/year. We'll assume the lower figure.
I have no idea how to create a food budget for nine people who are (mostly) eating communally. I also have no idea how much women's clothes/shoes/make-up cost, or how often they need to be purchased, (since this board is mostly femanons, would very much appreciate it if one of you chimed in with more data here), so I can redo the math with more accuracy.
So, Housing Cost = £40,000/year, CI&TVL = £3,150/year Gas & Leccy = £900/year, Phone & Internet = £1,428
So total cost of living = £45,500/year + harder to calculate costs of Income Tax/NI, Clothes, Food & Sundries. Which I will add in later. To make the rest of this easier, we shall say that the sum of these as yet uncalculated variables = X
Yearly expenses = £45,500+£X. Weekly expenses = £875+£X/52. So we need each girl bringing in an AVERAGE of £109.38+£X/416 per week. Which is fourteen hours, and thirty minutes + X/3120 per week, on minimum wage. Assuming X<£17,160 you could have each girl working 20 hrs/week on minimum wage, and still have enough to support the harem financially. Alternatively, you could have four earning minimum wage full time, and the other four given over entirely to in-harem duties, and have everything work out. YOU COULD HAVE TWO EARNING £15/HR WORKING FULL TIME, AND THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ALL NINE OF YOU, THAT SHIT IS INSANE.
Best plan in my view, would be to have 5 girls working 23.2 hours each. Two girls given over to in-harem duties, and have your harem queen exempt from all labour, because she's the harem queen. The two remaining girls would be a)Maid girl, who sees to it that the other 7 are always satisfied, and the house/hotel is always clean, and b)the cook
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No.17682
>>17681
Okay, taking that plan based on the looser ideas into account, I can figure out how much Income Tax/NI will be payed. A person earning minimum wage, and working full-time pays £533 Income tax + £744 NI Or £1277 total. Five girls working, (technically part time, but I can't be arsed figuring out how that would effect this), so a total of £6,335 So, since this model works on the assumption that X<£17,160 & 17,160-6,335=£10,825, this idea therefore really only works if we assume that Total cost of variables 5 & 6 is less than £11,000, which is highly unlikely. If you live like a fucking spartan, you can feed yourself, and keep your arse wiped for about £25/week, but realistically, for one person, it's more like £60/week. Thanks to economies of scale, (We are going to be buying A LOT of shit in bulk), you can bring that back down to around £25 per head again, but for 9 people, over a year, that's still £10,800. Leaving you with £25 for all purchases, (and repairs) of clothes, shoes, and cosmetics for one man, and eight women, for a year. That's fucking ludicrous.
Then again, if you update that 23.2 hours to 25, the extra 1.8 hours * £7.5 per hour * 5 girls = and extra £67.50 per week total, or £3510 per year, which SHOULD I think cover it.
So, in answer to the central question of this thread, "Logistics of a harem":
>Have an 8-girl harem
>Have a favourite girl, and make her your second in command, bunk with her.
>Buy a hotel for common living space, have two girls maintaining the house/taking care of the others, the remaining five bringing in income, by working 25 hour weeks on minimum wage. If they manage to get higher paying jobs, cut their working hours accordingly.
>Each girl has her own room, and bathroom. They can furnish, and decorate it to their liking, and are afforded some degree of privacy.
>Make it so that the two most submissive girls are the ones doing the internal, rather than external work, (for obvious reasons)
>Spend 3-4 hours with each girl 3 times a week, and have sundays be a more large-scale communal event. Also eat all meals communally. (Five girls will have to spend five hours per day working five days a week, so have them all working at different times of day, and plan your "quality time" schedule around it), also schedule the two subby girls chores accordingly.
>Make all the girls spend at lease an hour a day exercising (for obvious reasons), also you should probably join them.
>Don't devise some complex "sleeping schedule" just fuck who you want, when you want. That's the entire point of this operation. Also encourage them to sleep with each other when you're not around, for morale if nothing else.
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No.17686
>>17682
Fucking the same eight girls would get boring for me.
Realistically speaking I’ll probably marry someone who likes the idea of me sleeping around with cuties from all around the world.>>17682
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No.17687
>>17686
Well, fair enough, but if you just want to have one permanent partner, and a shitload of casual ones/one night stands, rather than a permanent stable of girls, then why are you commenting on the harem thread? Every other thread on this board is more appropriate to your interests.
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No.17690
>>17687
I want a harem, I just think eight regular girls is a bit much. Half that is probably ideal, since it’ll be easier to juggle between them sexually while still having the time to advance your career and fuck other women.
I didn’t mean to sound condescending, I enjoy hearing your opinion.
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No.17876
>>7249
>And I'm trying to work towards it
…. may I ask what steps it is that you're taking towards this end?
I've often thought of the 'cult' harem idea myself, and I'd like to touch base with someone else on it. My main problem seems to be I'd go about getting my first member. I know how cults grow. Have girls doing stands, leafleting, and canvassing, have regular meetings/sermons where you can recruit new members, maintain a healthy social media presence, so your followers don't forget about you, but when it comes to first "starting out", it's weirdly fucking difficult.
The only "starting" shit that I already know is:
1)I get that you need to have a system of ideas thought out before you even begin, (otherwise what are you canvassing/leafletting/sermoning about?).
2)When recruiting people at first, don't hit them with, "DID YOU KNOW THE EARTH IS 22 MINUTES OLD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE PROPHET SPEAK?", start with generic shit, that makes it sound like you're concerned. There's a reason every religious pamphlet begins with "do you feel like your life is lacking meaning?" or "Are you looking to do better in your professional life". I had a Mormon girl on her "18 months convert as many foreigners as possible" tour come up to me the other day, and greet me with "are you happy", it through me so off guard I ended up talking to her and her mate for over an hour.
Fuck, Scientology literally started as a line of self-help books, which brings me to my third point.
3)All good cults start as cults of personality. W.D. Farrad was only able to start the Nation of Islam because his followers already respected him as the neighbourwood "wise man", from his reading of other religion's scriptures. Elron had already become a Deepak Chopra/Jordan Peterson-esque celebrity through his range of "Scientology" self-help books, with an insanely loyal cult-of-personality, before he decided to revamp the whole operation as a religion. You can even see similar things happening with celebrities, and e-celebs. Oprah could start a religion any time she wanted, Stephan Molyneaux's followers are already almost a cult, what with all the crazy shit he makes them do.
TBH, rereading what I just typed, it seems like the best model is the Elron one. Just keep cranking out self-help shit, with a bit of e-celeb thrown in, and then start organizing your flock into a full-on religion, once, and only once you actually have one. If you're looking to reach mass appeal, then a good starting point would be to study the cultural zeitgeist of our society in general, and of your target demographic in particular.
Since you're mainly looking for women in their twenties, of the type who are most likely to be open to cucking, you've basically got two options as to who you try to appeal to:
1)Super-reactionary, alt-light, "tradwifes",
2)More modern, SJW-ey girls who are open to both poly, and kink, as long as it doesn't conflict with their woke-principles.
Group 1 are probably more open to biological-essentiallism, stressing the difference between intrasexual, and intersexual selection, and how it makes sense for men to desire more than one mate, but for women to pick the OPTIMAL MALE.
Group 2 to a more historical-sociological approach that acknowledges the recent development of monogamy, and examines the ethics of monogamous, polygynous, and polyandrous relationships from a more utilitarian standpoint. The phrase "Feminism is about choice" will be quoted about a million times in a work attempting to appeal to them.
Also, both groups would probably respond well to the argument that women should feel compersive, rather than jealous if you phrase it right. The tradwives, because they see competitiveness in women as a sign of the masculinization of their sex over the last half century, and the SJWs because they believe in a need for female-solidarity, with "bitchiness" being a purposefully divisive tool of the patriarchy.
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No.17877
>>17876 (2/2)
Also, since >>7249 and I are clearly not the only ones with the 'cult' idea:
>>8788
>>8791
I couldn't agree more about removing the supernatural shit, and going out of your way to make the cultists lives better. Both for ethical, and tactical reasons (I'm a Utilitarian, I have aspirations of a harem, but I would never mistreat them), the ethical component is obvious, but the tactical should not be overlooked. Nobody buys weird-as-fuck supernatural claims about the world, unless they've been desensitised to them through cultural osmosis, (as with traditional religion & folklore), or they've already been brainwashed into believing whatever the person telling them that supernatural bullshit tells them (as with Scientology etc.), whereas building your cults foundation on a mixture of science, pseudoscience, light philosophy, and shit the listener already kind of believes ensures a much more massive following. If you wish to be 100% honest about your intentions, then you should, but you're putting yourself onto a VERY tight tightrope in so doing, so make sure that you choose every single word with care. As for the making the cultists lives better part, that's really only something you can do once you actually have a cult, so no idea how you'd handle that, beyond ensuring their basic needs are taken care of, and providing them with a sense of community.
>>8794
>>8797
>>8798
"Besides has it ever been tried before", several times, but to my knowledge, never successfully.
>>8812
Fuck you. Cunts like you are the reason women are scared of us.
And on that note, I would also like to hear from any of the boards actual queans/vixens thoughts on my idea, primarily whether you find it hot or creepy.
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No.17878
>>17627
>whites in canada
>having 2 children
more like a dog and abortion, alternatively child seized by the government and trannified.
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