>>8770

You're saying create a club and only let girls join it so you and your girlfriend can scope them out? That is nothing more than a cult! I feel you are glossing over that part.

>>8772

Not him but I'd run a cult, seems like a laugh really. Many of them do seem to end up with a pretty heavy harem focus anyway.

>>8773

Yes it might be fun. I have a feeling some of us are crazy enough to actually do it. We already kind of operate as a pseudo-cult online anyway.

>>8772

>cuckquean cult

that sounds like a bitching idea, anon

>>8784

The way cults are defined nowadays has more to do with specific methods of function, rather than spiritual dogma. Redirecting a person's work and resources, separation from outside support systems, authoritarianism, hostile response to skepticism, tribalism, etc. You know, tumblr crap.

Real cults are not fun. It sounds like you all just want a specific kind of community, not an actual cult.

>>8784

>>8786

I think I would like to start an actual cult. However I would be very honest about what it is to prospective members. I think supernatural claims and all that stuff is fun. I have learned that some of the strategies various extremist weirdos use could be useful. I'd like to make clear though my aim would be to make the cultist's lives better.

>>8788

>to make clear though my aim would be to make the cultist's lives better.

Yeah, they all do that. No cult tells you it's a trap. People join them because they're desperate, so they'll jump on anything.

Most cult behavior involves being pretty horrible to other people. It demands that you have a lot of charisma and very little conscience.

>>8791

I will only ever be completely honest with my flock. I openly admit honesty is just another manipulation technique, and I will tell them that. I am going to the next level.

>>8794

You have to have a flock first, and this 'I'm totes trying to manipulate you, take it or leave it' approach isn't the best sales pitch.

>>8797

I think I could get away with it. Besides has it even been tried before? It could be a paradigm shift in the world of cults.

>>8811 (dubs checked)

Problem is you're mixing up the regular LDS mormons (bicyclists, chick-fil-a) with the fundamenalists (compounds, child brides). The normals don't practice polygamy anymore, the fundies are a already cultists, and they probably don't let in many men not born in their communities. They already have a tendency to push out a portion of young men that -are- born there. As simple math would tell you, they experience a problem with male-to+female ratios.

Also, probably not cool with girl-girl stuff either, so what the fuck is the point?

>>4932

GOD-EMPEROR TRUMP!

>>8812

Yes but you have to be either hot, wealthy or have useful skills. I will exploit whichever you posses for my own pleasure and to recruit more members.

>>8818

What does the fact that you "can barely handle one child" have to do with "how jealous and possessive and hostile women truly are"?

>>8821

>What does the fact that you "can barely handle one child" have to do with "how jealous and possessive and hostile women truly are"?

I believe he was calling the women childlike/children. This is of course silly: even if it is your opinion that all women are like this rather than a significant minority women faced with competition have significantly less scope to be childish anyway. Also children (and by extension women, if we follow this idea) can be dealt with effectively if you understand punishment + reward.

>>8824

That makes sense. I misunderstood the post.

I agree with your point about competition. Many people are interested in self improvement and recognise their faults. Both men and women try to correct their own stereotypical bad behaviour once they become aware of it. For example books about reclaiming femininity in a positive and family oriented way have sold in their millions. Being a submissive or even a cuckquean can function along the same lines. In the same way lots of men look for ways to be more masculine and reliable and suppress more negative traits too. This cuckquean thing and domestic discipline are ways for a man and a women to cooperate as partners in this regard.

I think it's fair to say that when people see a misbehaving child they often blame the parents.

>>8818

My neighbors raised 5 kids at the same time, and the father had a full time job. Is there something wrong with your kid?

>>8932

He meant the woman was the kid anon.

>>8749

pimp =/= cuck

I want to start a harem. I know I can do it, and I know I can get women to get to that kind of lifestyle. The problem is that I'm worried about how other people, family and friends, will treat the situation. I'm already noticing that as I get /fit/ and start pulling more and more women that beta providers despise me, and I imagine women I'm involved with would get harassed as well.

I don't know, it seems like kind of an iffy situation.

>>11775

There will be people who are mad or resentful if you have just one hot girlfriend or for all sorts of other reasons no matter what. Family or friends thinking what you are doing is wrong or immoral is a real problem however. Another is your work or business interests being damaged if people object to it.

Can it be a private thing? In a typical cuckquean setup of course your main girlfriend or wife is the cuckquean and the other women are just vixens. Anyone else doesn't necessarily see any of that happening. One of your girls should be your official girlfriend for appearances. The rest can just be housemates or something to the outside world.

So you're saying I should pick a girl to be my 'wife' and then just keep the other girls as sex slaves? Hmm… I'm worried that the other girls will get jealous of the 'public' girl rather quickly. I don't know, I'd rather be a bit more open about this. Making it a secret just feels kind of… beta to me.

>>11810

>I'm worried that the other girls will get jealous of the 'public' girl rather quickly.

Isn't that the point? Don't you want the other girls to be jealous? That way they'll treat you better to try and get your love more, and they'll unconsciously idolize your wife. Plus, they'll be in a lot of trouble if they mess with your wife, and pleasing the wife is akin to pleasing you.

Jealous or not, they'll be worshipping her eventually.

>>11810

Being unemployed is more beta. If you want to be open about it then everything else has to be structured around that.

>>11817

>Being unemployed is more beta.

If you are on welfare instead of living with your mom it's still more alpha than wagecuckoldry where you bent over for your (((boss))) like a little bitch.

>>11825

Pah, being a hobo with a gangstalking/flat earth youtube channel uploading only vertical videos is the true master race.

We have an unwritten rule against "muh dick" faggotry around here, and you stupid Chads with your talk of what's more "alpha" is getting awfully close.

>>11832

>not even writing down the rules

Alpha as fuck.

>>11816

>Isn't that the point?

Oh yeah, it is.

I guess I'll just fuck them all then.

>>12929

Nah, all you have to do is just fuck the feminist ideals out of here.

They're already becoming increasingly unpopular. Attractive women are starting to be a bit more critical of feminist ideas. It's going to collapse eventually.

>>17627

The logic of that image may seem solid at first glance.

However if 1 man have 4 wives and 12 children it means that on average 6 of the kids are also male.

When they grow up there will need to be 24 girls for each of those 4 to continue the trend. It's not sustainable.

>>17628

There are plenty of lower class cuties for the sons to choose from

>>17628

Exponential growth is funny. If your population grows that quickly (four kids per woman at a reasonably young age) you can actually still give every man multiple wives even if an equal number of males and females are born. The trick is to have an age difference between the two.

If each woman has four kids or more by age 20 (to make things simple), then the population will at least double every twenty years.

If men are twenty years older on average than their mates, they can all have two wives. If they spread out their marriages and just marry new late-teen wives as the old ones pass their mid thirties, they can have as many wives as they want as long as they live long enough, and marry more and more of them each time.

I'm actually planning to write a sci-fi scenario with a similar concept when medical technology has advanced far enough that both immortality and cryonic suspension has been perfected.

Since it's a largely automated economy with a universal basic income (technically a small negative income tax bracket, in a libertarian society) and cryonic suspension is cheap, young men who don't want to slowly die of old age in a welfare poverty trap can get their immortality by just freezing themselves and setting up their bank account to automatically invest their income while they are frozen, instead of spending it on unnecessary expenses such as food, rent & robot hookers.

They wake up still young but with a lot of

saved money, and can afford to buy immortality and stopped aging before actually aging much. Because the freezing procedure involves some risks with an increased chance of death from accumulated radiation damage the longer you are frozen, the practice is much more frequent among men. So the gender ratio is very skewed despite the fact that the births are even. The men who make it end up very rich and powerful, and end up with large harems.

(The other risk component is economic downturns. If you fuck up it's possible to lose so much money that you can't afford the drugs needed to survive being unfrozen. The story isn't intended to be smut. But it does have large harems in it because it's a fun choice for worldbuilding.)

>>8613

If we're talking about having all the girls board together for economies of scale, then why not ditch houses, and buy a hotel? That way every girl gets her own room, and bathroom, and for anything else, there's communal areas, (that serve like living rooms), and a big fuck-off kitchen, and restaraunt, that can be used for common dining purposes. You could share a bed with the main-girl most nights, and have the other girls "come to your room" whenever you feel like variety. (or there's always orgies in the common areas), some hotels even have an in-built gym, so the girls could keep themselves fit. We could even have one of the more submissive girls act as a "maid" to all the others, going around cleaning their rooms, and making sure that they're comfortable.

>>8656

Combine this with a decent knowledge of economics, and my above plan, and this is actually a really good idea. You can get a decent, 8-bedroom hotel, for ~£400,000 (I checked a bunch of different sites to get that figure). Assume you manage to get a Mortgage, so that's 20% (£80,000) upfront, followed by monthly payments for ~10 years. So that's 120 payments adding up to 80% of £400,000. Or in other words 400,000 * 4/5 * 1/120 = 40,000 * 1/600 = 400,000/600 = just under 6,700. Divide that between the eight harem members, (assuming your lead girl shares a room with you), and that's £837.50 per girl, per month. Minimum wage = £7.50/hour, so 7.5*40*52/12 = 1,300. So, even if all your girls were making nothing-more than minimum wage, there would still be an extra £462.50, per girl, per month. Weekly shopping bill for one person is around £80, if they're careful with money, so that's £347 per month, but thanks to economies of scale, (as pointed out above), we can shrink that massively, by buying food in bulk, and cooking/eating communally. So, for utilities, food, and entertainment, there's a remaining £3,700 total. If you can't make that work, then you're just bad with cash.

If we're instead assuming that all the girls have reasonably high-paying jobs instead, (like £10/hour instead of £7.50), then you'd have enough that all nine of you could effectively live the good life.

The only question is, where do you get the initial £80,000?

>>8770

One of the spare "common" rooms in a hotel, would make for a great weekly meeting place in which to recruit, and initiate new members.

>>8697

Starting a joint "family" business seems like a nice idea, at first, but you won't be able to turn a profit, if you're competing with a bigger chain. A better idea is to do what I outlined above, get all of you working for other people, accumulate any spare money earned in your hands, and thanks to economies of scale, over time, the amount of surplus value you extract from them will be enough to purchase your own private capital. Better to take that comparatively safe route, than to risk everything by starting your own business on day one.

Also, even though strippers do make a shitload of money, and that would probably make life easier, early on. I side with >>8749 in that I think that that would defeat the purpose of being a cuckquean harem-king, and would just make you a cuck, at best, and exploitative pimp at worst.

>>17628

>>17629

Spare sons would settle abroad and spread the blood as much as possible.

>>17681

Okay, taking that plan based on the looser ideas into account, I can figure out how much Income Tax/NI will be payed. A person earning minimum wage, and working full-time pays £533 Income tax + £744 NI Or £1277 total. Five girls working, (technically part time, but I can't be arsed figuring out how that would effect this), so a total of £6,335 So, since this model works on the assumption that X<£17,160 & 17,160-6,335=£10,825, this idea therefore really only works if we assume that Total cost of variables 5 & 6 is less than £11,000, which is highly unlikely. If you live like a fucking spartan, you can feed yourself, and keep your arse wiped for about £25/week, but realistically, for one person, it's more like £60/week. Thanks to economies of scale, (We are going to be buying A LOT of shit in bulk), you can bring that back down to around £25 per head again, but for 9 people, over a year, that's still £10,800. Leaving you with £25 for all purchases, (and repairs) of clothes, shoes, and cosmetics for one man, and eight women, for a year. That's fucking ludicrous.

Then again, if you update that 23.2 hours to 25, the extra 1.8 hours * £7.5 per hour * 5 girls = and extra £67.50 per week total, or £3510 per year, which SHOULD I think cover it.

So, in answer to the central question of this thread, "Logistics of a harem":

>Have an 8-girl harem

>Have a favourite girl, and make her your second in command, bunk with her.

>Buy a hotel for common living space, have two girls maintaining the house/taking care of the others, the remaining five bringing in income, by working 25 hour weeks on minimum wage. If they manage to get higher paying jobs, cut their working hours accordingly.

>Each girl has her own room, and bathroom. They can furnish, and decorate it to their liking, and are afforded some degree of privacy.

>Make it so that the two most submissive girls are the ones doing the internal, rather than external work, (for obvious reasons)

>Spend 3-4 hours with each girl 3 times a week, and have sundays be a more large-scale communal event. Also eat all meals communally. (Five girls will have to spend five hours per day working five days a week, so have them all working at different times of day, and plan your "quality time" schedule around it), also schedule the two subby girls chores accordingly.

>Make all the girls spend at lease an hour a day exercising (for obvious reasons), also you should probably join them.

>Don't devise some complex "sleeping schedule" just fuck who you want, when you want. That's the entire point of this operation. Also encourage them to sleep with each other when you're not around, for morale if nothing else.

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>>17682

Fucking the same eight girls would get boring for me.

Realistically speaking I’ll probably marry someone who likes the idea of me sleeping around with cuties from all around the world.>>17682

>>17686

Well, fair enough, but if you just want to have one permanent partner, and a shitload of casual ones/one night stands, rather than a permanent stable of girls, then why are you commenting on the harem thread? Every other thread on this board is more appropriate to your interests.

>>17687

I want a harem, I just think eight regular girls is a bit much. Half that is probably ideal, since it’ll be easier to juggle between them sexually while still having the time to advance your career and fuck other women.

I didn’t mean to sound condescending, I enjoy hearing your opinion.

>>7249

>And I'm trying to work towards it

…. may I ask what steps it is that you're taking towards this end?

I've often thought of the 'cult' harem idea myself, and I'd like to touch base with someone else on it. My main problem seems to be I'd go about getting my first member. I know how cults grow. Have girls doing stands, leafleting, and canvassing, have regular meetings/sermons where you can recruit new members, maintain a healthy social media presence, so your followers don't forget about you, but when it comes to first "starting out", it's weirdly fucking difficult.

The only "starting" shit that I already know is:

1)I get that you need to have a system of ideas thought out before you even begin, (otherwise what are you canvassing/leafletting/sermoning about?).

2)When recruiting people at first, don't hit them with, "DID YOU KNOW THE EARTH IS 22 MINUTES OLD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR THE PROPHET SPEAK?", start with generic shit, that makes it sound like you're concerned. There's a reason every religious pamphlet begins with "do you feel like your life is lacking meaning?" or "Are you looking to do better in your professional life". I had a Mormon girl on her "18 months convert as many foreigners as possible" tour come up to me the other day, and greet me with "are you happy", it through me so off guard I ended up talking to her and her mate for over an hour.

Fuck, Scientology literally started as a line of self-help books, which brings me to my third point.

3)All good cults start as cults of personality. W.D. Farrad was only able to start the Nation of Islam because his followers already respected him as the neighbourwood "wise man", from his reading of other religion's scriptures. Elron had already become a Deepak Chopra/Jordan Peterson-esque celebrity through his range of "Scientology" self-help books, with an insanely loyal cult-of-personality, before he decided to revamp the whole operation as a religion. You can even see similar things happening with celebrities, and e-celebs. Oprah could start a religion any time she wanted, Stephan Molyneaux's followers are already almost a cult, what with all the crazy shit he makes them do.

TBH, rereading what I just typed, it seems like the best model is the Elron one. Just keep cranking out self-help shit, with a bit of e-celeb thrown in, and then start organizing your flock into a full-on religion, once, and only once you actually have one. If you're looking to reach mass appeal, then a good starting point would be to study the cultural zeitgeist of our society in general, and of your target demographic in particular.

Since you're mainly looking for women in their twenties, of the type who are most likely to be open to cucking, you've basically got two options as to who you try to appeal to:

1)Super-reactionary, alt-light, "tradwifes",

2)More modern, SJW-ey girls who are open to both poly, and kink, as long as it doesn't conflict with their woke-principles.

Group 1 are probably more open to biological-essentiallism, stressing the difference between intrasexual, and intersexual selection, and how it makes sense for men to desire more than one mate, but for women to pick the OPTIMAL MALE.

Group 2 to a more historical-sociological approach that acknowledges the recent development of monogamy, and examines the ethics of monogamous, polygynous, and polyandrous relationships from a more utilitarian standpoint. The phrase "Feminism is about choice" will be quoted about a million times in a work attempting to appeal to them.

Also, both groups would probably respond well to the argument that women should feel compersive, rather than jealous if you phrase it right. The tradwives, because they see competitiveness in women as a sign of the masculinization of their sex over the last half century, and the SJWs because they believe in a need for female-solidarity, with "bitchiness" being a purposefully divisive tool of the patriarchy.

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>>17876 (2/2)

Also, since >>7249 and I are clearly not the only ones with the 'cult' idea:

>>8788

>>8791

I couldn't agree more about removing the supernatural shit, and going out of your way to make the cultists lives better. Both for ethical, and tactical reasons (I'm a Utilitarian, I have aspirations of a harem, but I would never mistreat them), the ethical component is obvious, but the tactical should not be overlooked. Nobody buys weird-as-fuck supernatural claims about the world, unless they've been desensitised to them through cultural osmosis, (as with traditional religion & folklore), or they've already been brainwashed into believing whatever the person telling them that supernatural bullshit tells them (as with Scientology etc.), whereas building your cults foundation on a mixture of science, pseudoscience, light philosophy, and shit the listener already kind of believes ensures a much more massive following. If you wish to be 100% honest about your intentions, then you should, but you're putting yourself onto a VERY tight tightrope in so doing, so make sure that you choose every single word with care. As for the making the cultists lives better part, that's really only something you can do once you actually have a cult, so no idea how you'd handle that, beyond ensuring their basic needs are taken care of, and providing them with a sense of community.

>>8794

>>8797

>>8798

"Besides has it ever been tried before", several times, but to my knowledge, never successfully.

>>8812

Fuck you. Cunts like you are the reason women are scared of us.

And on that note, I would also like to hear from any of the boards actual queans/vixens thoughts on my idea, primarily whether you find it hot or creepy.

>>17627

>whites in canada

>having 2 children

more like a dog and abortion, alternatively child seized by the government and trannified.