>>3024

If my 'quean was ugly, I wouldn't be with her in the first place.

>>3048

If your girl likes you you're already a 10/10 in her eyes. You just have to find the girl whose 10/10 is you.

Threesomes/cuckqueaning are the territory of emotionally unstable women, the kind that need a constant feed of drama. An intimate long term relationship is impossible with emotionally unstable women.

I dated an anorexic masochist and it clearly sounds sexy (just like real cuckquean, see the pattern), but the unstable mental state, and daddy issues required to be into this defeats the entire purpose. The 'female female' crossdressing/feminizaton that unstable women do so well is there to attract other unstable men to recreate their trauma or escape being alone with their feelings.

>>3048

I think the first thing you need to do forget this whole stupid macho 'alpha' nonsense. It's the domain of emotionally retarded douchebags that set up an an artificial metric so that they can feel superior to other men and not have to actually be worthwhile men or address their own flaws.

Some animals have 'alphas'. Humans do not. In that vein, be one - a fucking man. Men do not engage in this fictitious contest of false pride to see who can pretend their dick is the biggest; children do, even if they're old enough that they should be men.

If women are going to respect you, then be worthy of respect, and even more importantly, respect yourself. None of this stupid fratboy bullshit is going to do anything but get in the way.

Be an individual. Live by the right of your own conviction. And don't base your self-worth on some stupid imagined competition with other men. Your flaws don't make you less of a man, this stupid macho crap sure can. Just like only children concern themselves with how adult they are, only douchebags uncomfortable with their own masculinity concern themselves with how 'alpha' they are.

>>3060

I've been with my cuckquean for eight years. She's sensible and stable, even through some pretty major life crises. We did not start nor keep cuckqueaning as a drama generator and any vixens which are likely to cause drama are avoided.

You understand unstable women, but have over-applied this understanding to areas it doesn't cover to make conclusions it's not suited to support.

>>3061

This is excellent advice. I've always found the idea of the human alpha to be a fairly useless one. It feels like it's explaining something (because humans do have social dominance behaviours) but leaves you with nothing you can actually use.

If >>3048 wants a useful way to re-cast the otherwise useless labels of alpha and beta, he'd be better served to realise women want and need both from the same man. A complete man has both hunter-protector-leader traits ("alpha") and provider-nurturer-cooperator traits (beta) active simultaneously. They're not mutually exclusive. This is why building both attraction and comfort during flirtation and courtship is essential.

Too little of either leads to less children: Men who become comfortable in their marriages and let their wives run the show have the sex dry up - they're no longer displaying any "alpha" traits so raw attraction disappears. Men who can only act like "bad-boy" itinerant males cannot do "beta" things like build homes, provide stability and raise children - so any relationships they do have tend to be explosive and short.

Someone with both sets of traits is what we call a man.

>>3062

>I've been with my cuckquean for eight years. She's sensible and stable.

How is it possible to have a long term relationship with someone when you're bringing in other women, even consented by her? I'm not trying to shame cuckqueaning itself, but instead understand. I can only assume shes in a position where her mind has been completely reformed (or hates herself enough to do this while you're attractive enough to keep her along) or is morbidly unattractive and some how got the fetish. Bringing in other people must create grudges, surely relationships have died from less, especially experimental ones.

>You understand unstable women, but have over-applied this understanding to areas it doesn't cover to make conclusions it's not suited to support.

If you're seeing someone, and she has an unsalvageable family structure or brings in something eerie fetish that she needs to function sexualy then shes trying to sabotage the relationship, Similar to when guys use bisexuality to leave relationships. Bringing in someone else is unstable behavior.

I guess my main question is what separates a cuckquean from a common place unstable relationship saboteur?

>>3063

>I can only assume shes in a position where her mind has been completely reformed (or hates herself enough to do this while you're attractive enough to keep her along) or is morbidly unattractive and some how got the fetish. Bringing in other people must create grudges, surely relationships have died from less, especially experimental ones.

She is a compersive cuckquean, so she does not experience my having sex with other women as a bad thing she must endure, but something she enjoys. She enjoys me enjoying myself. I'm not sure why this would create grudges. If she didn't enjoy and welcome it, I wouldn't be doing it.

She's attractive, but even if she were not, what difference would that make? Unattractive people are fully capable of walking away from an arrangement they don't like, and physical attractiveness of one's partner is only a part of what goes into a relationship.

>I guess my main question is what separates a cuckquean from a common place unstable relationship saboteur?

One is an unstable relationship saboteur, the other is a woman with a fetish?

The assumptions underlying these questions are very confusing.

>>3064

>She's attractive, but even if she were not, what difference would that make?

Unattractive people can have one-sided relationships with more attractive people.

>Unattractive people are fully capable of walking away from an arrangement they don't like,

Unless they have self-esteem problems about being unattractive or are desperate, or hate themselves enough to feel they deserve this relationship.

>and physical attractiveness of one's partner is only a part of what goes into a relationship.

Physical attraction can be psychological, based off how unstable the family structure or childhood trauma is for each other's recreation.

>One is an unstable relationship saboteur, the other is a woman with a fetish?

>The assumptions underlying these questions are very confusing.

I just can't comprehend a long term relationship with an one-sided open relationship and the woman isn't unstable. An unstable woman wouldn't have a fetish like this for better or worse, fetishism comes from childhood trauma. A woman isn't born wanting be choked without a chaotic family upbringing. Childhood trauma rewires the brain to make victims more appealing to abusers, this is where paraphilia comes from. Pedophiles are always made from their child abuse first.

Has your gf gone through constant therapy or is she really old or does she have self-esteem issues?

Despite my language, i'm not trying to look down on those who have this fetish, and i'm not saying i'm correct. I clearly have no right to tell you what is stable, it's just goes against general trauma psychology. People are psychologically impossible, everyone has some childhood trauma, long term relationships should be impossible, especially now with our random family structures. I know i sound like i'm bitter, but i'm just being realistic about how psychologically unsalvageable people are.

>>3065

>No anon, that does not sound sexy at all. That sounds the opposite of sexy. Why would we think anorexia sounds sexy?

Men sexually love unstable women, they're like women playing feminine characters regardless if intimacy is impossible. On the surface value masochism and anorexia sound like a personality trait than unstable baggage, When your standards are rock bottom and shes attractive. I wasn't aware of the sadistic insecurity behinde her anorexia. It's attractive to unstable men who aren't aware of the psychological monster inside that they've been attracing.

>Why would you think we think anorexia sounds sexy to the point that it's something you can label as "clearly"? Anorexia means she keeps her figure, to stay feminine, and the masochism means hates herself enough to be in a desecration of a relationship with me

>>3077

>I just can't comprehend a long term relationship with an one-sided open relationship and the woman isn't unstable. An unstable woman wouldn't have a fetish like this for better or worse, fetishism comes from childhood trauma. A woman isn't born wanting be choked without a chaotic family upbringing. Childhood trauma rewires the brain to make victims more appealing to abusers, this is where paraphilia comes from. Pedophiles are always made from their child abuse first.

Fetishes generally come from childhood (and early teen) experiences but not necessarily trauma (which is only one type of experience).

>>3077

>Anorexia means she keeps her figure, to stay feminine, and the masochism means hates herself enough to be in a desecration of a relationship with me

Also an incredibly skinny girl will actually look less feminine than one of a reasonable weight (not a fat cunt of course).

>>3077

>Has your gf gone through constant therapy

Nope.

>or is she really old

Nope.

>or does she have self-esteem issues

Not really, no.

>>3078

>Fetishes generally come from childhood (and early teen) experiences but not necessarily trauma (which is only one type of experience).

You're right.

>>3079

>Also an incredibly skinny girl will actually look less feminine than one of a reasonable weight (not a fat cunt of course).

Depends on the woman, but true, women have more fat deposits.

>>3083

I was wrong then. Don't women need to be emotionally invested (even on any small level) to enjoy sex in a relationship, if so then doesn't cuckqueaning harm this?

Why did the board dieded?

>>3117

>Nope! If anything, it's forged an even closer bond between us.

I'm extremely interested on how, was it an experimental event at her pace?

>>3119

>was it an experimental event at her pace?

Exactly. She expressed interest in the fetish (though neither of us knew what it was called at the time) and we felt it out slowly, step-by-step.

>>3123

What made her want to try it? If you two did have hiccups how did you fix it?

>>3130

>we solved those by talking it over like grown adults, figuring out what was actually going on, figuring out why it was causing a problem, and then adapting. Nothin' to it.

That sounds so simple it's actually unbelievabe, mostly because i have a very volatile experience/impression of relationships (incase that was clear from my other posts). It's pretty pleasant to be wrong about you and your gf.

>>3132

Not that anon but you are mistaking the average woman for all women.

There are plenty of women out there who don't act like children they are just comparatively rare and by their very nature not 'loud' enough to be noticed.