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Here you will find a collection of information about natural cures and remedies
A repository of information and methods about healing without using big pharma's products.
For too long the medical pharmacology industrial complex has made more money from customers than cures. Many effective natural medicines have been suppressed or banned and forgotten by the general public.
You'll find some information, some research links, some opinion.
Which old natural medicines have research to back up the claims of cures?
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6d0e15 No.10370
BO / Moderator - please remove 10366 and 10367, to be replaced with properly formatted posts.
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6d0e15 No.10371
Part 1 of 2
Russian doctor offers a new approach to treatment of corona-virus
https://yandex.ru/turbo?text=http%3A%2F%2Fsibkray.ru%2Fnews%2F7%2F933759%2F
Google translated from Russian:
Novosibirsk scientists know how to make coronavirus safe
April 2, 2020
Specialists at the Center for the Prevention of Thrombosis found a way to turn deadly COVID-19 into regular flu. About this discovery Sibkray.ru was told by the head of the Center, candidate of medical sciences Andrei Gromov.
- Andrei Alexandrovich, do you really know how to cure a coronavirus?
- No, I’m not a virologist and I won’t be able to treat this infection. But we look at the problem from a different perspective. We know how to minimize the effects of a viral infection. After all, people die not from the virus, but from its complications. If you manage to avoid them, then the great and terrible COVID-19 will be no more dangerous than ordinary flu and our immunity will be able to cope with it.
“And what is your confidence based on?” You yourself did not deal with patients with coronavirus?
- The fact is that the COVID-19 epidemic has become such a shock for mankind, such a planetary threat, that world science has taken unprecedented measures. Scientists began to exchange information in an emergency. Chinese researchers published detailed protocols on the course of viral infection in major journals. And I, as a specialist who develops technologies for the diagnosis and treatment of thrombosis, saw a weak spot in the therapy used today. The fact is that the whole world treats the virus, that is, the pathogen itself is trying to destroy. And we decided that until the anti-virus remedy was found, we should concentrate our efforts on preventing consequences and complications.
Now in the world against COVID-19, two methods of treatment are used. The first is antiviral drugs, Chinese doctors mainly used ribavirin. The second is powerful anti-inflammatory substances designed to prevent the development of pneumonia. Those that are really effective are heavy anti-malarial drugs, such as Chloroquine, Hydroxychloroquine. A lot has been written about them. But, as experience shows, these drugs are not enough.
“What do you suggest?”
- And we found a weak spot in this infection . As you know, it affects one organ - these are the lungs. There we have the main "battle". Therefore, it was the lungs that we decided to protect - to prevent pathology from developing in them. After all, pneumonia does not begin on the first day. The infection spreads quite slowly. At first it “occupies” the nasopharynx, then gradually “crawls” to the lungs. Therefore, doctors have the opportunity to buy time.
In Russia, the situation is not as serious as it was in China. About 23% of patients have an asymptomatic infection in our country, they have a small viral load, and their immunity copes with the disease on their own. In 63-65% of patients, a viral infection of the type of influenza or parainfluenza develops. And only in 14% everything flows into pneumonia. This is the data of Rospotrebnadzor. Up to a third of patients with complications in the form of pneumonia do not survive. And they die precisely from pneumonia. Moreover, it is disastrous. Even those recovering develop adhesions. That is, the lungs are pulled together by a scar of connective tissue, and a person remains with respiratory failure for life - in fact, becomes an invalid. So, if you stop the development of pneumonia, then the virus can cope with the virus itself.
“But doesn't our medicine know how to treat pneumonia?”
- This is not about ordinary pneumonia. Here is the thing. COVID-19 is a smart virus. Once in the lungs, he is waiting for an immune response. And immunity throws all its defenses there, these are white blood cells, and special proteins, and NK cells, and T-lymphocytes, and macrophages … They act like artillery shells or grenades. There is an explosive reaction. That is, they destroy the virus, but also damage the surrounding tissue. And lung tissue - it is all riddled with blood vessels. And a side effect of this battle is rapid pulmonary edema. Breathing begins to break. Moreover, the more our defenders “try”, the more they throw out inflammatory proteins, the more their native cells are damaged.
- It turns out, the more actively the body fights, the sooner it loses?
- In fact of the matter! And watch what happens. These "explosives" that immunity cells emit for our protection, they damage the walls of blood vessels. And then blood plasma penetrates into the lungs, into the respiratory vesicles (alveoli). It contains fibrinogen - a large fibrous protein, it is needed in order to close the damage to blood vessels. That is, in principle, fibrinogen protects us from bleeding. But in this case, he begins to work against the body.
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6d0e15 No.10372
Part 2 of 2
A cunning virus wraps the situation in its favor and uses fibrinogen for its own protection. He builds around himself a kind of ramparts, walls, trenches, dugouts, so that he can no longer get close to him. But another thing is worse - in the lungs, thus, numerous microthrombi are formed.
- That is, the virus reverses our immunity against ourselves?
- That's it. In fact, he uses our defense system for his own purposes. This is the trick. Not without reason, everyone notes that this is a very smart virus, it specifically causes such a blast wave in the human body - it provokes us. He initially “knows” this mechanism and expects to use it in order to entrench himself, fence himself and protect himself from the body by blood clots.
As a result, blood clots flood the lung, squeeze it from all sides - and as a result, we have all these difficult cases, including deaths. If we can stop the process of thrombosis, the problem will be solved - the virus will lose its lethality.
- But surely this mechanism is known not only to you?
- Of course not. We are not the only ones in the world so smart. But there is one point. I am a specialist in thrombosis. The doctors who are now struggling with COVID-19 have no experience dissolving large blood clots, and I have 30 years of experience. I know how this works, I myself dissolved pulmonary thromboembolism, and these are very heavy blood clots, equal in mortality to a heart attack. And I understand what can be done in case of coronavirus pneumonia.
- So what?
- Here I will not open America. There are well-known remedies. Firstly, these are anticoagulants - they interfere with blood coagulation, for example, heparins. And secondly, thrombolytics - they dissolve blood clots. (By the way, I note in parentheses: low molecular weight heparins are produced in Milan. And I do not know why Italian doctors do not use them.)
But the most important thing is the time to start treatment. Now all over the world, patients are being treated when it is too late - pneumonia is in full swing, blood clots have already developed, a person is in serious condition. We suggest doing this much earlier. Since the virus gives us time, we need to start treatment before it comes to pneumonia. Introduce heparins to those who have just had shortness of breath - moderate patients. And, of course, to everyone who is at risk, who are over 60, who have chronic diseases — cardiovascular, diabetes, oncology … This, you can say, is our Novosibirsk exclusive, our know-how.
But there is another local exclusive. The fact is that the Americans, as far as I know, also had the idea that blood clots could be dissolved. And even the other day they decided to try this idea. But the problem is that their thrombolytic is very expensive and it is not possible to use it massively, only on the most severe patients. And such patients, as we said, are often too late to treat. So, about the exclusive. In Novosibirsk, they produce a drug that is much cheaper, has no side effects and can be massively used for treatment in such situations. This is Trombovazim, it is well known to specialists.
Humanity is not yet able to defeat COVID-19. Until specialized antiviral drugs and a vaccine appear, he will infect us. But what we can and offer to do today is to minimize mortality. Stop the disaster. Save the lives of thousands of people who die from the effects of coronavirus every day. It is quite real. And then the infection will go into the category of habitual respiratory diseases, hospitals will be unloaded, people will perceive COVID-19 as a normal flu, which, of course, is not very pleasant to hurt, but not mortally dangerous.
For reference: Andrey Gromov , Director of the Center for the Prevention of Thrombosis, Ph.D., Senior Researcher at the Laboratory of Clinical Biochemical and Hormonal Studies of Therapeutic Diseases, Research Institute of Therapy and Preventive Medicine, author and co-author of seven textbooks and monographs, as well as more than 250 printed scientific papers, speaker of many international and European medical congresses.
Author: Nina Zheludkova
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6d0e15 No.10373
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767767
>protect himself from the body by blood clots.
Serrapeptase and Nattokinase, enzymes that destroy dead proteins should take care of that. Blood clots = dead proteins.
If one of the things that this C19 does is rely on dead proteins, this serrapeptase can take care of that.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5372539/
Nattokinase: An Oral Antithrombotic Agent for the Prevention of Cardiovascular Disease
Nattokinase (NK), a potent blood-clot dissolving protein used for the treatment of cardiovascular diseases, is produced by the bacterium Bacillus subtilis during the fermentation of soybeans to produce Natto.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5790697/
Analytical techniques for serratiopeptidase: A review
Serratiopeptidase (US: serrapeptase) has been used in Europe and Asia for over 30 years, but is relatively new in the United States and Canada [2]. It has powerful anti-inflammatory properties. Clinical studies have shown that it is effective in reducing swelling and edema and metabolizing scar tissues in the body [3], [4] and particularly useful for post-traumatic swelling, fibrocystic breast disease and bronchitis [5], [6], [7], [8]. It can digest dead tissue, blood clots, cysts, and arterial plaques [9].
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767931
Any medicalfag and graphicsfags to put a list of supplement recommendations together would great (not medical advice of course). There are various posts. I'll keep links open and come back but am more text than graphics savvy.
E.g.
Russian study posted by anon earlier in bread, describing mechanism of COVID-19 and thrombosis being a major issue.
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767763
studies on Nattokinase and Serrapeptase in reducing thrombosis / breaking down scar tissue
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767824
previous notable on COVID cure / inoculation
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8728228.html#8728704
use of intravenous vitamin C which even Chinese doctors used in treatment of COVID-19
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767861
New anon adding licorice root herb (not the red vines, damnit! lol)
https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8767601.html#8767963
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4fb921 No.11575
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07a2e5 No.11586
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20207b No.12607
study nutrition science
and you never again need to go visit a doctor
all medicines are toxic.
all medicines only treat symptoms.
they never try to figure out why you got sick or how to prevent it.
90% of all illness is due to nutritional deficiencies and or a toxic buildup
either you got too much or too little of something.
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d52c80 No.12807
Artemisia better than Chloroquine
The malaria business: Big pharma vs natural medicine
Bill Gates making money while sterilizing and killing people
https://www.france24.com/en/20190111-reporters-plus-malaria-business-big-pharma-vs-natural-medicine-artemisia-annua-who
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1a67c1 No.13570
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7b9e73 No.14062
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ef8157 No.14085
as posted >>>/qresearch/9212429
Bee venom and SARS-CoV-2
Toxicon. 2020 Apr 30
doi: 10.1016/j.toxicon.2020.04.105 [Epub ahead of print]
Wei Yang∗
Oncology, Hangzhou Red Cross Hospital, 208 Huancheng East Road, Hangzhou, 310003, Zhejiang, China
Fu-liang Hu
College of Animal Science, ZheJiang University, 886 YuHangTang Road, Hangzhou, 310058, Zhejiang, China
Xiao-feng Xu
Oncology, Hangzhou Red Cross Hospital, 208 Huancheng East Road, Hangzhou, 310003, Zhejiang, China
According to data from Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center, the global number of confirmed COVID-19 case exceeded 2.0 million on the 15th of April. I am a physician, and I participated the prevention and control of coronavirus in China.
There is one discovery we would like to report here. It reminds us the story of the discovery of cowpox and the eventual victory of humans over this disease (Bennett and Baxby, 1996). In Hubei province, the epicentre of COVID-19 in China, the local beekeepers association conducted a survey of beekeepers (Fig. 1 ). A total of 5115 beekeepers were surveyed from February 23 to March 8, including 723 in Wuhan, the outbreak epicentre of Hubei. None of these beekeepers developed symptoms associated with COVID-19, and their health was totally normal. After that, we interviewed five apitherapists in Wuhan and followed 121 patients of their apitherapy clinic. These patients had received apitherapy from October 2019 to December 2019, and all the five bee apitherapists have the habit of self-apitherapy for their own health care (apitherapy means making use of bee venom from the honeybee's sting to treat or prevent certain diseases). Without any protective measures, two of the five apitherapists were exposed to suspected COVID-19 cases and others were exposed to confirmed COVID-19 cases, but none of them were infected eventually. None of the 121 patients were infected by SARS-CoV-2, and three of them had close contact with immediate family members who were confirmed SARS-CoV-2 Infection cases. It might be supposed that beekeepers are less likely to be exposed to SARS-CoV-2 because they live in less densely populated rural areas. But the five apitherapists and their patients are from densely populated areas in Wuhan. These people have one thing in common: they develop a tolerance to bee sting.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7190514/?fbclid=IwAR2XiP2Zg4AqeMlF2TlUiNlC_Kiww9Sv3U7OzWT88fxy-CZisBXG4gjXII8#!po=4.16667
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ef8157 No.14141
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. as posted >>>/qresearch/9219944
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtL0B1bqXak
>video related
>>>/qresearch/9219828
Efficacy of glutathione therapy in relieving dyspnea associated with COVID-19 pneumonia: A report of 2 cases
Abstract
Purpose
Infection with COVID-19 potentially can result in severe outcomes and death from “cytokine storm syndrome”, resulting in novel coronavirus pneumonia (NCP) with severe dyspnea, acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), fulminant myocarditis and multiorgan dysfunction with or without disseminated intravascular coagulation. No published treatment to date has been shown to adequately control the inflammation and respiratory symptoms associated with COVID-19, apart from oxygen therapy and assisted ventilation. We evaluated the effects of using high dose oral and/or IV glutathione in the treatment of 2 patients with dyspnea secondary to COVID-19 pneumonia.
Methods
Two patients living in New York City (NYC) with a history of Lyme and tick-borne co-infections experienced a cough and dyspnea and demonstrated radiological findings consistent with novel coronavirus pneumonia (NCP). A trial of 2 g of PO or IV glutathione was used in both patients and improved their dyspnea within 1 h of use. Repeated use of both 2000 mg of PO and IV glutathione was effective in further relieving respiratory symptoms.
Conclusion
Oral and IV glutathione, glutathione precursors (N-acetyl-cysteine) and alpha lipoic acid may represent a novel treatment approach for blocking NF-κB and addressing “cytokine storm syndrome” and respiratory distress in patients with COVID-19 pneumonia.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213007120301350?via%3Dihub
Glutathione
Glutathione is an antioxidant in plants, animals, fungi, and some bacteria and archaea. Glutathione is capable of preventing damage to important cellular components caused by reactive oxygen species such as free radicals, peroxides, lipid peroxides, and heavy metals. It is a tripeptide with a gamma peptide linkage between the carboxyl group of the glutamate side chain and cysteine. The carboxyl group of the cysteine residue is attached by normal peptide linkage to glycine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione
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ef8157 No.15275
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ef8157 No.19533
as posted >>>/qresearch/9939581
The medical term for blood clotting is THROMBOSIS.
Antithrombotic Activities of Green Tea Catechins and (-)-Epigallocatechin Gallate
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10588466/
Abstract
The antithrombotic activities and mode of action of green tea catechins (GTC) and (-)-epigallocatechin gallate (EGCG), a major compound of GTC, were investigated. Effects of GTC and EGCG on the murine pulmonary thrombosis in vivo, human platelet aggregation in vitro, and ex vivo, and coagulation parameters were examined. GTC and EGCG prevented death caused by pulmonary thrombosis in mice in vivo in a dose-dependent manner. They significantly prolonged the mouse tail bleeding time of conscious mice. They inhibited adenosine diphosphate- and collagen-induced rat platelet aggregation ex vivo in a dose-dependent manner. GTC and EGCG inhibited ADP-, collagen-, epinephrine-, and calcium ionophore A23187-induced human platelet aggregation in vitro dose dependently. However, they did not change the coagulation parameters such as activated partial thromboplastin time, prothrombin time, and thrombin time using human citrated plasma. These results suggest that GTC and EGCG have the antithrombotic activities and the modes of antithrombotic action may be due to the antiplatelet activities, but not to anticoagulation activities.
PDF article is attached.
Bottom line: Drink strongly brewed green tea. Good brands are Teavana and Liptons. Also take Zinc and Vitamin C
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9a36a5 No.19549
>>5472
>So, you buy some add a few drops to a fresh gallon of milk and re-cap the milk. set it out at room temp or slightly warmer for 24 ~ 36 hours for the bacteria to reproduce. At this point (before it starts to curdle from the bacteria running out of food and dieing off) it still tastes OK so, you put it in the refridgerator to halt reproduction before the die off and it curdles and gets bitter. Then you drink a glass twice a day. Its that simple.
Anon, can you specify more about that?
How many drops?
Would it help if I made yogurt out of that?
Or would it be fine to do it with milk?
It raw milk okay for this?
Do I have to heat the milk up to kill the bacteria that is in there before putting 17938 in it?
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ef8157 No.19550
>>19549
>Would it help if I made yogurt out of that
that will work
>Or would it be fine to do it with milk?
or you can use milk
>It raw milk okay for this?
>Do I have to heat the milk up to kill the bacteria that is in there before putting 17938 in it?
raw milk is ok
and YES re-pasteurizing the milk is a good idea, just make sure to cool the milk to below 100°F prior to adding the DSM17938
The whole point is to produce as many CFUs of DSM17938 as you can
Dosage used in the study when corrected for the difference in size between mice and men would indicate a need for a dose in the neighborhood of a trillion (1,000,000,000,000) CFU per day
this works by seriously overwhelming your gut with this beneficial bacteria and killing off all the bad ones
see
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2494590/
ATCC 55730 is the original parent strain that DSM17938 was derived from
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9a36a5 No.19551
>>19550
Ok, so let me repeat that:
1) Get raw milk
2) Heat it up so that the bacteria dies (how long? how far heat it up?)
3) Let it cool down to room temperature (refrigerator?)
4) Put in 17938 (how many drops?)
5) Keep it at room temperature for one to 1.5 days
6) Cool it down in a refrigerator
7) Drink it
8) Rinse and repeat for a few weeks
I will try to do that, and will document every step.
Did you try it yourself already?
>this works by seriously overwhelming your gut with this beneficial bacteria and killing off all the bad ones
Yes, that totally makes sense.
I read an official treatment report from 2 years ago and that even states that nutrition would be irrelevant to UC/CD. It's completely ridiculous. And it's known that certain bacteria causes it. You can starve them by avoiding certain sugars, but that only helps so much (even that isn't even mentioned in that report).
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9a36a5 No.19552
>>19551
Plus you sure about 1 day at room temperature?
I would have to keep it somewhere safe so that germs won't get into it.
Maybe I will even start keeping it for 6 hours at room temperature at first.
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ef8157 No.19556
>>19551
>Did you try it yourself already?
yes, many times
you'll have to look up how long to heat the milk, what temps how long etc… information is available on the net
just look up "pasteurization"
I generally used 10 drops, it's in sunflower oil so it doesn't mix well. Some form of mixing is needed
(I used a brand new unopened container of milk, quickly added the drops and then re-sealed the container and shook it for a few seconds to mix it)
the timing of how long to incubate the mix is full of variables
not long enough = weak mixture, not many CFUs (colony forming units = live bacteria)
too long = curds & whey that tastes bitter
the bitterness is from the die-off products of the bacteria.
the goal is to incubate the mixture to get a maximum number of CFUs
this is done by incubating at a temp ~ 100°F for maximum replication speed
then cooling the mixture to stop replication to prevent the over population die off when all the food for the bacteria is consumed by them
I cannot give you exact timing and procedure because I do not have lab equipement to measure the variables properly
you'll have to do it by trial and error
you'll know if you get a contaminated batch, it'll smell & taste bad
when you get it right the milk is just a little thicker and tastes a bit richer(?)
or you can make yogurt with it and deal with the bitter taste by adding fruit.
>>19552
no, the timing depends on the temperature and I don't have an incubator, I kept the mix on the water heater as that is the warmest spot in the house without being over 110°F (above that temp starts to harm the bacteria's replication rate)
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ef8157 No.19558
>>19552
>Maybe I will even start keeping it for 6 hours at room temperature at first.
that is a good place to start
In your position I'd do this with Quarts of milk in a re-sealable container.
drink the whole quart
you cannot over dose on this bacteria… well… I guess if you went to real extremes it might have some odd effects but nothing lethal
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ef8157 No.19559
>>19552
the rule of thumb for bacterial replication is the colony will double every 45 minutes under ideal conditions
that means
proper ph
supply of nutrients
proper temperature
milk has proper ph and nutrients…
ideal temp is ~ 100°F
every degree below that slows replication
every degree above that slows replication
freezing does not killthe bacteria quickly
temps above 185°F kill the bacteria quickly
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ef8157 No.19563
from https://www.britannica.com/technology/pasteurization
Pasteurization:
heat-treatment process that destroys pathogenic microorganisms in certain foods and beverages. It is named for the French scientist Louis Pasteur, who in the 1860s demonstrated that abnormal fermentation of wine and beer could be prevented by heating the beverages to about 57° C (135° F) for a few minutes. Pasteurization of milk, widely practiced in several countries, notably the United States, requires temperatures of about 63° C (145° F) maintained for 30 minutes or, alternatively, heating to a higher temperature, 72° C (162° F), and holding for 15 seconds (and yet higher temperatures for shorter periods of time). The times and temperatures are those determined to be necessary to destroy the Mycobacterium tuberculosis and other more heat-resistant of the non-spore-forming, disease-causing microorganisms found in milk. The treatment also destroys most of the microorganisms that cause spoilage and so prolongs the storage time of food.
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557a1e No.19564
>>19556
I got access to pharmacy lab equipment, so I guess I should be able to manage it.
I did some self treatment ages ago, in fact without my own research back then I would be dead by now.
Oh well, I know a young girl that has the same shit as me and I guess through internet magic I was a part of what helped her/her parents to figure out the clinic that saved my ass 5+ years before that. Back then there wasn't much information on the internet about it and a few people spread info after a non approved medicine was taken from us. She's on antibiotics for years now (Xifaxan), but these have saved her life. MDs almost killed her several times by treating her with Rockfeller shit (all sorts of chemos). I was lucky and didn't need these antibiotics.
I will try to get some fresh milk tomorrow and try that at first. I haven't let milk into my body for a very long time. Baby steps.
Will come back here in a few weeks.
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557a1e No.19565
>>19564
btw. thank you very much for your help.
I hope it works out.
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ef8157 No.19566
>>19565
you are welcome
I hope it helps
>baby steps
yup
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3b9a77 No.21887
hey i was told to come comment here
i am in end stage 5 kidney failure from FSGS type 2.
i have tried everything i could possibly ever come across, even stem cell therapy, nothing has worked.
i am told by the nephrologist that i have to just suck it up and deal with it and get on dialysis, im supposed to have surgery later today so i can start at home dialysis.
does anyone know anything that can repair scar tissue on the kidneys like i have?
my blood type is O+ if that helps.
here is a pic of me and my son as russian bots for fun
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3a9117 No.23549
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9a36a5 No.24006
>>19566
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I'm trying this for a week now and I'm getting better at it.
My equipment is only capable of processing 1 liter of milk (around 25% of a gallon), and I used 12 drops and set the timer to 16-17 hours.
Mathwise it seems around 13 hours should do it at 38°C maybe even slighly less than that, but I'm not sure.
It's quite weird, I had 1 or 2 batches that smelled horribly and I threw those away. At other times I produced yoghurt successfully, it tastes … weird. Not really bad, but also not tasty. Combined with fruit it tastes fine.
Do you think 1 liter per day should be enough?
I could even try to do 2 batches per day at around 14 hours each.
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db29b2 No.24019
>>24006
I tried 14 hours yesterday and it still sort of tastes like milk when I put it in the fridge.
It seems that's the right duration for fridge at around 3-4°C, right into equipment which keeps it at 38°C, and after that right back into the fridge.
2nd batch was just finished, I hope it turned out to be fine as well.
I used 12 drops for 1 liter of milk.
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db29b2 No.24020
>>24019
I just forgot: the milk + drops need to get shaken lightly so that they get mixed.
The flask in which DSM17938 resides needs to get shaken as well before the drops are taken out.
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65efa0 No.24574
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9a36a5 No.24682
>>24020
To add to this, there was a trial in 2012, but they used way too few.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22150569/
https://archive.is/aVXNm
Randomised clinical trial: the effectiveness of Lactobacillus reuteri ATCC 55730 rectal enema in children with active distal ulcerative colitis
Methods: A total of 40 patients (median age: 7.2 years range 6-18) with mild to moderate UC were enrolled in a prospective, randomised, placebo-controlled study. They received an enema solution containing 10(10) CFU of L. reuteri ATCC 55730 or placebo for 8 weeks, in addition to oral mesalazine. Clinical endoscopic and histological scores as well as rectal mucosal expression levels of IL-10, IL-1β, TNFα and IL-8 were evaluated at the beginning and at the end of the trial.
Results: Thirty-one patients accomplished the trial (17 males, median age 13 year, range 7-18). Mayo score (including clinical and endoscopic features) decreased significantly in the L. reuteri group (3.2 ± 1.3 vs. 8.6 ± 0.8, P < 0.01) compared with placebo (7.1 ± 1.1 vs. 8.7 ± 0.7, NS); furthermore, histological score significantly decrease only in the L. reuteri group (0.6 ± 0.5 vs. 4.5 ± 0.6, P < 0.01) (placebo: 2.9 ± 0.8 vs. 4.6 ± 0.6, NS). At the post-trial evaluation of cytokine mucosal expression levels, IL-10 significantly increased (P < 0.01) whereas IL-1β, TNFα and IL-8 significantly decreased (P < 0.01) only in the L. reuteri group.
Conclusions: In children with active distal ulcerative colitis, rectal infusion of L. reuteri is effective in improving mucosal inflammation and changing mucosal expression levels of some cytokines involved in the mechanisms of inflammatory bowel disease.
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9a36a5 No.25667
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7318306/
Quercetin and Vitamin C: An Experimental, Synergistic Therapy for the Prevention and Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 Related Disease (COVID-19)
Abstract
Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus-2 (SARS-CoV-2) represents an emergent global threat which is straining worldwide healthcare capacity. As of May 27th, the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) has resulted in more than 340,000 deaths worldwide, with 100,000 deaths in the US alone. It is imperative to study and develop pharmacological treatments suitable for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19. Ascorbic acid is a crucial vitamin necessary for the correct functioning of the immune system. It plays a role in stress response and has shown promising results when administered to the critically ill. Quercetin is a well-known flavonoid whose antiviral properties have been investigated in numerous studies. There is evidence that vitamin C and quercetin co-administration exerts a synergistic antiviral action due to overlapping antiviral and immunomodulatory properties and the capacity of ascorbate to recycle quercetin, increasing its efficacy. Safe, cheap interventions which have a sound biological rationale should be prioritized for experimental use in the current context of a global health pandemic. We present the current evidence for the use of vitamin C and quercetin both for prophylaxis in high-risk populations and for the treatment of COVID-19 patients as an adjunct to promising pharmacological agents such as Remdesivir or convalescent plasma.
Proposed multi-drug approach for either the prophylaxis for high risk population, and treatment of mild and severe cases.
Quercetin Vitamin C
Prophylaxis 250–500 mg BID 500 mg BID
Mild cases 250–500 mg BID 500 mg BID
Severe Cases* 500 mg BID 3 gr q6 for 7 days
Conclusions
Quercetin displays a broad range of antiviral properties which can interfere at multiple steps of pathogen virulence -virus entry, virus replication, protein assembly- and that these therapeutic effects can be augmented by the co-administration of vitamin C. Furthermore, due to their lack of severe side effects and low-costs, we strongly suggest the combined administration of these two compounds for both the prophylaxis and the early treatment of respiratory tract infections, especially including COVID-19 patients.
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7a8654 No.28111
>>25667
Thanks! Anon. <3 Super helpful currently.
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aa2bcb No.30055
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Mullein: 3 parts… Will kill any viral infection ON CONTACT.
Horehound 2 parts… Targets Respiratory sys. with mullein
Licorice Root: 1 part… heals all damage(s) from all infections
Will obliviate CV-19 within 72 hrs have proof(s) working now for easy and hard young and old.
always praying as well 11.17.
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aa2bcb No.30060
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d40100 No.30386
>>28111
I'm not sure what q6 is supposed to mean.
q6h means every 6 hours, but without "h" I have no clue. 3g Vitamin C every 6 hours is crazy and this could cause issues with kidneys. Even 3g per day is a very high dosage.
It's not a typo though, because it's mentioned like that several times.
It can't be every 6 days, because that would make no sense.
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b8b932 No.40423
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998e33 No.52889
>>40423
>>24019
>>24020
>>24006
>>19566
I hope you still look in here.
Anyway, it's around 1 year later.
I thought it didn't work, didn't know if I just failed in making enough bacteria, I have more and more issues with my breathing, and I think maybe it's the UC medication from Big Pharma
Tried to reduce it several times since that time last year. Failed all the time.
BUT I reduced it around 3 months ago. Then fully stopped with it 2 months ago. No symptoms, nothing. I can't say for sure, but I had to take medication for 10+ years now, wasn't able to reduce it for weeks. Tried several times. Now I'm off that shit and nothing.
So I'm possibly healed now.
Thank you so much.
I still have weird breathing problems. Big Pharma doctors told me I had Asthma, but that makes no sense. Tons of slime produced in the upper respirator tract as well as the nose. Doesn't depend on physical activity. Asthma spray doesn't really help that much. I read that this may be caused by too much acidity in the body, which would make sense. I had to take the max dosage of Mesalazine for several years now and it says that coughing and such could be caused by it.
If you are still here, do you have any idea what could help? At least since I'm off the meds, it seems more and more slime gets lose, but it isn't really getting better. I tried herbal anti-parasitic meds (paraSmart), I'm almost done with that, but no real change at least by now.
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52d8a0 No.58253
>>52889
> I have more and more issues with my breathing, and I think maybe it's the UC medication from Big Pharma
update:
I finally solved this by drinking raw milk for weeks.
Pasteurized milk promotes slime, raw milk does the opposite.
Potentially it was caused by my body being too acidic, but I don't know for sure. Doctor wanted to give me antibiotics months ago, glad I didn't take it.
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c42517 No.58277
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>>5555
>>5561
>>5563
>>19550
>>19556
>>24682
To add a bit toReuteri
You can actually (and you should) add extra food for the bacteria.
They love Inulin (not Insulin, INULIN).
You should add 4 table spoons. And according to the experiments of Dr. William Davis you should use an incubator (cheap) and make it last 36 hours for max. bacteria. Without Inulin the bacteria will run out of food and will die off, you don't want that.
Last year even a full video was posted describing the fine details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeIMoTMv_AQ
And you also should pasteurize the milk in any case. You can use raw milk, you can also use supermarket milk. But you should pasteurize it in any case, other experiments have shown that supermarket milk ("pasteurized") fails unless you pasteurize it.
There is milk in US called "ULTRA pasteurized milk", the lady in the video says that this type of milk would work even without pasteurizing it.
If there are still problems, try pasteurizing it yourself.
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c42517 No.58278
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Dr. William Davis also says in this video that a German microbiologist found this bacteria.
His name was Gerhard Reuter.
And back then when he found it, he found that most people have these bacteria in their colon.
He kept checking, but with time less and less people had Reuteri in their colon.
He also says that Reuteri is extremely vulnerable to antibiotics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXg2xEotEQc
See at around 27:00
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c42517 No.58279
>>58277
Dr. William Davis also used BioGaia Gastrus for his experiments. Also shown in the video.
You only need it for the first successful batch.
After that you should take around 100 grams of that batch to create the next batch. Also see video.
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