No.1046245 [Last50 Posts]
>The only masculine fusion
>Super Gay british Steven
What did Rebecca sugar mean by this?
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No.1046247
>>1046245
Toxic masculinity
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No.1046260
>Masculine
Androgynous is still not masculine bud.
>>>/sujew/
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No.1046262
Why does that ==T H I N G== look like it crawled out the asscrack of some DeviantArt page that lives to makes the worst designs ever conceived?
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No.1046263
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No.1046266
This is what happens when you let Gay Hippies have jobs.
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No.1046268
>>1046262
reminds me of that undertale boss
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No.1046269
"My goal with the show was to really tear down and play with the semiotics of gender in cartoons for children because I think that’s a really absurd idea that there would be something radically different about a show for little girls versus a show for little boys."
"As much as I want to talk about gender politics… at the end of the day I really want to do something that’s dedicated to my brother."
-Rebecca Sugar, 2015
"For me, Ruby in a dress is how I feel when I’m in a dress. I think the show has been a chance for me to become a little more comfortable with exploring my own relationship to gender, and, of all the characters, Ruby is my most direct vessel of a character. There are drawings from 2014 of Ruby in that [wedding] dress. That was a long, long dream, and I really couldn’t imagine it any other way. Ruby and Sapphire have always been meant to represent me and my partner and so that always felt natural to me."
-Rebecca Sugar, 2018
This entire show is, and has always been, wish-fulfillment and propaganda from one bisexual, nonbinary Jew. It wasn't on-the-fly pandering to tumblr or anyone else, it was intended all along by its creator to be a wedge by which to normalize LGBT representation - and increasingly direct sexual content - in children's television. She pitched it to CN as a fantasy show about a fictionalized version of her brother then steadily pivoted to gender politics. She now admits that early scenes like Pearl's dance sequence were intended to push boundaries to make later planned LGBT content more accepted. And it worked. The window of acceptable content to show to children in animated shows has shifted. Sugar's campaign has been successful and don't be surprised when these 'boundaries' get pushed again in future.
"It has been extremely difficult to do [representation] within this show… when we started doing this in 2011 it was impossible and it has become possible over the last many years of working really hard to do this."
"Ultimately, I said, “If this is going to cost me my show that’s fine because this is a huge injustice and I need to be able to represent myself and my team through this show and anything less would be unfair to my audience.” This was around 2016 and that’s when I began to speak openly about what we were doing."
"We started talking about the wedding episode, I think, in early 2016… it was made clear to me that this was not something that should be in G-rated content and that there was a limit on how much we could show these characters, how close these characters could be with each other. And this has changed. We have been able to break this down…"
"At various levels we have had allies fighting for this to be made… We’ve had allies at all these different stages, people for whom this is very personal and they understand the personal toll that can be taken. I think there are people at Turner [the company that owns Cartoon Network] who are LGBT who would see these notes come through and just realize how shocking they are and I think that it made all the difference."
http://archive.is/YFsYV
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No.1046270
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No.1046272
>>1046270
A fat hawaiin midget fused with a non-binary lesbian space rock.
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No.1046274
>>1046272
Wasn't a fat afro jew? and which lesbian space rock? the jew pale one?
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No.1046279
>>1046270
Steven and Pearl.
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No.1046280
>>1046279
I just saw a clip of the new fusions and I hope this show ends already. What a bunch of cancer.
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No.1046281
>>1046269
By why does Rebecca sugar want everyone to be sympathetic to space lesbian Hitler?
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No.1046283
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No.1046284
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>1046268
>reminds me of that undertale boss
Besides the lesbains. Even Toby fox parodies the gays.
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No.1046285
>>1046283
But Steven underage
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No.1046287
>>1046268
>>1046284
Mettaton is a ghost possessing a robot, though. Plus the robot in question is inspired by androgynous showmen like David Bowie.
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No.1046292
>>1046285
Didn't stop amethyst.
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No.1046295
>>1046292
Yeah, but Amethyst, Garnet, and Pearl are a result of Sugar's subconscious creating various facets of irresponsible single mother figures, while also unintentionally creating a positive reinforcement on paternal figures.
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No.1046296
So… are we done with this? did this trainwreck finally end.
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No.1046297
>>1046287
>>1046284
Mettaton is both literally and metaphorically transgender. The robot body is supposed to represent transition, and the ghost is described as female while mettaton is male.
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No.1046298
>>1046245
Steven Universe is proof that a loving god does not exist.
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No.1046299
>>1046245
Clearly it's a metaphor for the feminization of European men in the current year.
>>1046283
No no no no, no they just needed a reason to fuse.
>>1046296
There's still a movie coming, and there's rumblings of a sixth season, so no, we're still far from done. But if you mean the main conflict then yeah, all done, you can jump off now and save yourself the pain.
>>1046297
>The ghost is described as female
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
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No.1046301
>>1046299
>you can jump off now and save yourself the pain
Just knowing this exists already gives me pain.
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No.1046302
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No.1046312
>>1046301
The good thing about this series is that for whatever popularity it has now, it will become dated extremely quickly. If the 90's had copious amounts of shadows and edginess, and X-TREME Skaterz, then the 2010's will be regarded as the "muh diversity" era of comics and cartoons, where there was an absurd overabundance of gay, racial, or other categorical characters that were poorly written.
Moreover, it lacks the timelessness, the ethereal qualities we instinctively recognize in other shows that will let them stand the test of time. Years from now, people will remember Avatar: The Last Airbender with the same fondness they regard Batman: The Animated Series currently, because those stories are memorable. Steven Universe though? It's too targeted, too specific, too narrow in its focus to stay relevant throughout the years. It might stand out as being representative of the cliches of the era, and people will remember it for that, but it won't be remembered for being Good, even by its current fans.
>>1046302
ur 2 dads
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No.1046315
>>1046312
At least the 90s was the age of ponytails, huge muscles and huge shoulders. I miss the 90s.
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No.1046326
>>1046312
Wait. I just realiced something that is triggering me right now.
>White talks about Yellow, Blue and Pink making white together.
>Sugar is using colour theory for the gems and the light the project.
>BUT SHE IS USING THE PRINTING BASIC COLOURS, AND ALL TOGETHER THEY MAKE BLACK!
>IT'S NOT FUCKING BLUE! IT'S FUCKING CYAN FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
>AND IF SHE WANTED TO GO WITH THE LIGHT SHIT SHE HAD TO DO THE RGB SYSTEM!
>THE DIAMONDS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RED GREEN AND BLUE!
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No.1046333
>>1046312
The other problem is that Steven Universe is a show with an absolutely horrendous good-to-shit ratio when it comes to episodes. 6 fucking years and all they have to show for it are several dozen townie episodes, a few multi-parter episodes that have something resembling action and story, and then lots of dumb bullshit where Steven just cries and everything turns out alright. Unfortunately, the nostalgia goggles on this one will be thick and permanently affixed to the faces of any critics in the future who bring this shit up. They won't be able to speak to the quality of the art direction, storytelling, character development, or anything like that, but they'll be fellating Sugar for decades because of the perceived symbolic value of having such a faggot-filled show.
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No.1046334
So… how did she go from being an evil, murderous sociopath to a somewhat understanding sister just by blushing?
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No.1046335
>>1046334
Through the power of bad writing.
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No.1046336
Did she abuse her brother when he was a kid?
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No.1046338
>>1046334
Steven was so kawaii she jizzed in her pants and when she realized she was a faggot too she was forced to surrender to the gay agenda.
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No.1046350
>>1046334
Some really contrived shit about her having vulnerabilities, therefore being not flawless, even though it was her getting embarrassed at being wrong and getting sassed once. It's absolutely impossible that a millennia old dictator has been embarrassed once in her life, no sir.
I realize this show is supposed to be fluffy and ~kawaii UwU.~ I know it's supposed to be about the joys of having fun and being yourself and not striving to be perfect and all that crap, but the storyboarders really dropped the ball by wanting to have forty cakes and eat them too. You can't set up these conflicts with earth-shattering stakes and spend most of the time on side characters with conflicts that mean so little they have no impact whatsoever. You can't introduce characters that actually matter to the story just to set them aside, turn them into parodies of themselves, or shut them into a locker halfway through development only to give them lip-service at the very end. You can't set up the bad guys as ultra-utilitarian dictators for one or two episodes, ignore them to have cutesy tea parties for twelve, and have them get redeemed by "showing their ~sensitive sides~" in another two or four. The show wants to be an anti-shonen so badly that the pieces don't mesh, if they're even used at all.
>>1046312
You're right. Steven Universe tried to be so GROUNDBREAKING and SUBVERSIVE that it'll end up as a relic of its time, focusing so much on "themes" that they forgot how to communicate them properly.
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No.1046368
>>1046350
>You can't turn [characters] into parodies of themselves
This. This is why I quit watching after Season 2. The bullshit they pulled with Peridot was way too disappointing, and this isn't even considering the glacial pacing SU has.
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No.1046370
>>1046336
It wouldn't surprise me at this point.
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No.1046371
>>1046334
Well white was a failure.
Maybe we'll get artificial diamond next? A human made gem from the fucked up part of the planet as revenge?
What am I even talking about, the writers are actively sabotaging story telling at this point and wouldn't be able to write a good episode with a gun held to their pronouns.
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No.1046373
>>1046371
they have more seasons for this? should have ended with that episode…
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No.1046374
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No.1046376
>>1046371
Since Sugar is an unrepentant idea thief, she'll probably just dip into classic anime cliches and have an even more powerful threat show up. Or they'll do a timeskip and they'll introduce a new cast of human-gem hybrids. Or they'll just do a few hundred more townie episodes.
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No.1046378
I didn't like the show, but I liked the message at the end, essentially
>You don't have to like me, but if you try to get to know me we might come to an understanding
No way Sugar intended to, but that's /pol/'s multiculturalism argument of separate but valuable, and not the liberal "all accepting" melting pot outlook
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No.1046384
>>1046374
>_500
you can save larger sizes you know
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No.1046390
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No.1046393
>>1046262
>incorrectly using the A E S T H E T I C S type
>incorrectly using redtext
>that reaction image
While there's nothing wrong with JoJo, the amount of nigger faggot casuals and youngfags that enjoy generally only the anime, and coupled with a more normalized meme (absolutely disgusting, and the originally /v/-tier image macro), is cause for concern.
>>1046245
What she meant by that was to tell you to stop sucking cocks, you fucking faggot, and to check the catalog before making shitty threads.
>>1034702
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No.1046403
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No.1046410
>>1046403
>first pic
Did he just fuck himself?
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No.1046412
>>1046390
No, he just got fucked by himself.
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No.1046414
>>1046390
They sure stole his childhood from him and turned him into a faggot.
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No.1046416
>>1046403
How can you even be bothered to be impressed by that animation. The technique is older than the people working on the show, and has been done a lot better before.
I get so angry and tired everytime I see something about this show, I wish it would already.
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No.1046417
>>1046416
Well, for such lazy animation anything is a master piece.
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No.1046428
>Steven's REEEing
that was funnier than it should have been
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No.1046429
>>1046414
He's dating a girl, at least.
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No.1046433
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No.1046435
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No.1046458
>>1046312
> If the 90's had copious amounts of shadows and edginess.
Hey
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No.1046476
>>1046458
Ah, the 90s. Where marketing encouraged a generation of rebellious, lazy losers.
I miss it.
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No.1046508
>>1046416
It hurts because good animation is being wasted of such shit designs and show. It's also funny because it seems that most people have forgot that the show tends to be animated like ass, like a few seconds made by an actual good animator outside the team change that.
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No.1046510
>>1046403
Isn't that just the 2D animation overlayed on a 3D cel-shaded animation?
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No.1046522
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No.1046525
Did they think that no one would notice?
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No.1046528
>>1046525
Worse yet, that looks exactly like this one too.
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No.1046531
>>1046525
>>1046528
I'd say it's just a (((coincidence))) but SU has a huge track record of "referencing" things.
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No.1046533
>>1046525
Like the show being for "special" people, the references are made obvious enough so that special people understand it.
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No.1046534
>>1046429
Any straight person in this show has to be either fat with a pig nose or black though.
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No.1046535
>>1046403
A metaphorical gay experience with himself.
God I hate that show so much. The target audience must be self-doubting whimps who get home and cry while watching, after someone beat them up at school over their furry trading card collection or something.
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No.1046536
>>1046285
That would be a better title for this show. Steven Underage.
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No.1046540
So is Pink really dead or did she just hide herself and decide to refuse with Steven?
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No.1046589
>>1046525
>Rips off the Flameblade
>Not the superior Great Flameblade
That's even worse.
>>1046540
Yeah, she's dead for realsies according to the writers.
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No.1046611
And the series ends on them just 'talking it out' and convincing the bad guy that their just too mean. I didn't expect a fucking fist fight with the Mighty Whitey and her Bleached army, but it takes one last rabbit out of their ass to make Steven invincible and then they instantly dismantle the villains entire world view with one sentence and then they decide fuck it and they give up the end. I shouldn't have expected anything different in this fucking show but all I can hope is that it's dead for good now because I cannot for the life of me find any further way to drag this on for more seasons besides just doing Town shit,
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No.1046625
>>1046611
There's still one more season left and a movie but I have no idea what Sugar is going to do because all loose ends have been tied up.
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No.1046626
>>1046611
>seried ends on the main antagonist being talked out of being evil without much intelligence being put into the scene.
>>1046625
>or it introduces a new quick threat in the last season and ends it in a movie.
I don't know which is a bigger sin writing wise but I hate SU even more than I ever have before.
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No.1046627
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No.1046631
>>1046428
>she's gone
had to add a little violence to that
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No.1046632
>>1046625
>one new season and a movie
fucking what?
It's going to be pure filler, no doubt, I can already see it will be garbage
>there will never be a better writer at the helm wherein the diamonds come together like a psudo sentai force
>they could all easily be written as clunky aliens who don't understand how the earth works
>Blue is very kind and gentle, but very fragile and emotional, trying to get the hang of earth relationships and being shown as a very pure and innocent girl who is very adamant about wholesome, christian family values that lead to a lot of guys ditching her after the end of a season or maybe even a couple episodes because she's to pure to even want a kiss on a first date
>she could even show some interest in earthly cultures and be shown preparing a new meal for steven to enjoy every day, since anyone else eating wouldn't really make sense
>"If I want to be a good housewife someday I'll have to be ready to prepare tons of nutritious meals"
>White is very pompous, spending her free time in seclusion and studying the finer qualities of earth life, and when she is exposed to the team's antics she's very aloof about it, showing some slight motherly tendencies here and there, nothing explicit though
>several episodes can be centered around her showing superiority over understanding earth customs, only to be shot down by the modern steven who knows that she's reading without an understanding of the time period
>Yellow could be the crazy one whose motive is fighting and being the winner, solving problems with fists and having a part time job teaching some weird gem style of fighting, it could even expound on how brittle and sensitive their core forms are, the double edged sword being that their attacks are all the more rough because of how they channel their attacks to use the hardness of their stone
>episodes can be centered around her using her job money to purchase absurd weapons and teaching new techniques to steven, such as how to properly fight with an indian whip blade or a new wrestling hold she learned about
>Pink can be steven, the billy of the cast; he's the dopey fat kid who everyone on set makes fun of, and because he's the only human he'd be the most relatable with his problems, thus he'd be the core for most of the show's plotlines, most of the others in the cast can be played off him really easy since it's not hard to write three fish out of water scenarios where each of them bounce off of the one not-fish
>Blue can be given dating advice so as to teach her how to find a guy who'd really be in for the long term
>Yellow can have sincere moments of frailty in front of him
>White can serve a double purpose as both mentor and student, where steven learns very sagely advice and white accepts advice on how more decently to act on earth
>they have to stop the green diamond and her band of misfit gems that are all imperfect gemstone cuts that try to replicate the power and hardness of pure diamonds
>when they're in human mode they can assume human names and keep exterior components reflective of their forms
>White can look like Vergil very easily
>Blue can have a big cute sweater and jeans on most times
>Yellow can always be wearing a different set of earthling battle armor or something military based otherwise, maybe always in a battle wife-beater and clearly wearing a sportsbra
>Steven can actually have more than one outfit too since he's the fucking protagonist and a kid's not going to wear the same shirt every day; the first couple episodes can even remark how blue and white wear the same clothes daily and yellow at least wears the same thing beyond whatever cool armor she found out about or dug up
>steven's friends can tell him that he's been wearing the same shirt for over a week and that it is even worn from wear
>maybe even making a comment about how he smells, bringing up the fact that his sisters would obviously not have any sense of smell since they are basically sapient gemstones
>an episode is made out of getting him new clothes and the moral is that you should properly wash yourself since being smelly stinks
>the episode could even have a garbage monster gem or something that is a physical manifestation of the internal conflict that steven is going through that the other three fight, also in american power rangers fashion
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No.1046633
>fusion could a very simple process that involves diverting the light that the gem is refracting into a body into one single form that allows them to expend the same amount of energy to have stronger blows, also allowing them to refract into a much bigger form
>with two it would just look like they're overlayed into each other, and slightly bigger, but with all 4 they can basically turn into a megazord capable of taking on some bigger monstrosities
>episodes can revolve around the process of figuring out how to refract into each other properly and for extended durations, since if their bodies go out of sync they'll separate and be punching with their original power, and being in sync for a long time can be mentally draining since they will be putting a lot of thought into what the next move should be and what their partner will chose to do as well
>easily opened up to make way for the obvious "the team is all on a different wavelength" episode where they are so out of sync they can't even refract between two of them and they eat shit for it, but then they all come together at the end and learn the power of friendship and working together will generally solve any physical disputes because their friendship is actively shown to multiply their power excessively
>you could make an episode about the villain and what she does, going around and producing gems in a factory similar to how we produce fake diamonds in a factory
>the villain could be skeletor esque with just generally being a dickhead to her subservient commanders, all of which can be different alien races that long for the destruction of earth for the sake of it's rich source of nuclear powered technology or some bullshit, maybe even for water, since earth is abundantly full of the stuff and that would easily get rid of the human populous so they could move in to take their things
>this show will never exist and it's all because feminists are too close minded about the "narrative" they want to portray about gender psychology when they could easily ditch that and have a radical show about 4 dudes who happen to be primarily female kicking ass in a context that could easily be explained
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No.1046654
>>1046653
Hey blackpillfag, what made you decide to shit up our board again?
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No.1046657
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No.1046659
>>1046657
>sandnose is in three spots at once
TOP KEK
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No.1046660
>>1046245
>First masculine
Holy shit I did not realized that he's technically the first male gem we saw on this show.
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No.1046663
I remember that leak where White Diamond looked like a guy.
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No.1046664
>>1046653
>This. SU will be praised forever. "Get woke go broke" will forever be just a meme.
Faggots praising faggoty shit doesn't mean said shit is successful. Steven Universe has been skirting by on the "steven bomb" release schedule for more of it's run than not, and they only even did that to artificially fudge the ratings a bit, by making sure it aired against nothing else. Even if it got canceled halfway through it's run, faggots would still be fellating Sugar's micropenis for decades for making such a faggoty cartoon in the first place. They don't care if it's good, just that it's some kind of vague notion or symbol of their cancerous ideology.
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No.1046665
>>1046660
That's what happens when you get people who want to "deconstruct gender roles" which apparently just means making all the characters sexless and feminine or tomboys who are also still feminine.
When will these faggots learn japan has been doing this kinda shit for far longer with better efficiency? I don't even like eva and I have to give it credit for displaying at least one kind of male protagonist that wasn't enthused to do the robot crusades for his daddy because he was just a scared kid; the same thing goes for the original gundamu with amuro; he just kinda fell into that really powerful weapon system, amuro himself was basically a little shithead.
Furthermore, ghost in the shell does the same thing, proving that you can have a female lead who has a high sex appeal while also having an actual character; the fact that her model was a fucking sexbot is not something to glaze over either. The lists go on, but the point is there are better ways to give females and males different roles, even in america we had she-ra which is now getting a shitty reboot, again because these people don't understand how to write what they want to write as a counterpart to he-man, who had her own shit to do just as well as adam
It's like a child being given exactly what they ask for, and every time it's exactly what they asked for,but their tiny brain doesn't know how to formulate a decent thought of how to ask for what they actually want, so they just get frustrated and keep asking for the same thing over and over to see if it will change.
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No.1046668
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No.1046670
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No.1046671
>>1046657
There are two connies in the right picture. Bravo Sugar.
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No.1046686
>>1046665
She-ra gave me my first boner
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No.1046691
>>1046653
Put the soy down, faggolio. Your T is too low.
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No.1046694
>>1046671
There are three, look again
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No.1046767
>>1046657
Is that Moonman on stage?
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No.1046784
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No.1046807
>>1046245
> Masculine
Holy shit do you nerds ever actually go outside
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No.1046829
>>1046767
If only. I would watch the shit out of MoonMan going one-man clan on the SU faggots because it would certainly make for a better plot.
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No.1046844
>>1046299
>>The ghost is described as female
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
There's side content with the ghost's diaries explaining being put in a robot, and other characters describe the ghost as the other ghost's sister.
>>1046627
I'm just describing what's very blatant in the game.
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No.1046845
>>1046334
More importantly, where did she even get the idea that she had to be perfect? She was the original diamond, the original gem, right? Who told her having a flaw was problem?
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No.1046857
>>1046371
>pronouns
>not "atheist church"
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No.1046858
>>1046476
what a great time it was for cartoons that did the opposite
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No.1046859
>>1046844
That gave me an idea on how to fix it. Call him a brother in the dialogue. That way you get a better way to joke about the gays without the whole trash lizard thing or the gay guards. Thanks for the tip, might never be useful, but thanks regardless.
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No.1046860
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No.1046861
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No.1046863
>>1046861
Thanks anon I don't know enough about NIN to catch that like I should
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No.1047159
>>1046429
>>1046534
They're referring to the voice actor, not the character.
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No.1047182
>>1046245
>The only musculine fusion
>Ignores Sunstone
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No.1047184
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No.1047188
>>1047159
The voice actor is dating a
>girl
Got it. faggot.
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No.1047245
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No.1047458
>>1046285
That doesn't stop Rebecca from hiding pedophilia in a children show in plain sight about turning them into non-binary freaks of nature.
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No.1047467
>>1047188
No the voice actor is a
>girl
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No.1047470
Take this cancer back to fagchan.
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No.1047559
>>1047182
>Tubetop
>Short shorts
>that voice
Don't be fooled by the "reference" to mid-80s/90s celebrety PSAs and maybe hulk hogan.
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No.1047562
>>1047182
>those vestigial arms
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No.1047564
>>1047562
>those vestigial eyes
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No.1047587
>>1047562
Birkin. Carry me away my love. No homo.
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No.1047618
>>1046269
>This entire show is, and has always been, wish-fulfillment and propaganda from one bisexual, nonbinary Jew
Gee, really?
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No.1047671
>>1046844
>There's side content with the ghost's diaries explaining being put in a robot, and other characters describe the ghost as the other ghost's sister.
Dug through the game's script to find what you're talking about, but there's no mention of that character being called "sister." They are only ever described as their cousin, and all the ghosts are described always in gender-neutral "they." But Mettaton definitely reads like a tranny metaphor regardless, with lines like "I can finally be myself" and other dreck.
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No.1047672
>>1047182
Everything about this show disgusts me on a deep, personal level. It's basically a distilled, pure vision of everything and everyone wrong with Western civilization and the strongest possible argument we will ever have for book burnings (or in this case, a highly advanced virus developed to hunt down every copy of this travesty on the internet and delete it).
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No.1047678
>>1047672
Off-topic, but a virus like that probably wouldn't be too hard to code if you knew what you were doing.
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No.1047705
Man I really feel like Steven Universe was originally someone else's concept but Sugar somehow got her hands on it and has been slowly rewriting it. There's such a stark difference between things in the first and current seasons it's hard to believe they're the same show.
The first season was a monster-of-the-week show with the occasional "dungeon" to break things up, the fusions were more mystically (the giant temple, Opal's look, and even Sugulite resembled some sort of ogre. Vs later fusions that looked like faggy magical boys and obviously toyetic designs), inclined and there was the plot hook of corrupted gems becoming monsters.
I don't really have any proof that's concrete but I can't think of any other real reason why the show would take such a hard left turn in style, storytelling, and flavor.
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No.1047735
>>1047705
Man, all that original shit was to sell the series to CN, they dropped it because they got far enough along to run with the series Silver and her gender fag friends really wanted to make.
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No.1047736
>>1047705
There was always that meme of SU being like Transformers but that got dropped hard
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No.1047760
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No.1047762
>>1047760
Only problem I ever had with Houseki no Kuni was the shitty translation that it got from reddit after the steven universe fanbase found out about it.
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No.1047763
>>1047762
The worse part the official translation advertises it as “if you like SU you’ll love this”
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No.1047764
>>1047763
I still can't believe how much they enabled that tumor to infect it. How do you fuck up that badly?
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No.1047777
>>1047760
I'm not saying it's ripping something off, because if I were I'd be citing Legend of Mana for the larger amount of similarities.
No I'm saying that SU's first season was the last remnants of whatever the show was before Sugar potentially reworte it into the clusterfuck it is today.
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No.1047790
>>1047763
That would just turn me away.
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No.1048033
>>1046245
>What did Rebecca sugar mean by this?
It means she has absolutely no fucking clue what masculinity looks like.
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No.1048051
>>1048033
If she doesn't, then how come she inverts it every time?
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No.1048065
>>1048051
Sorry. I was giving her the benefit of a doubt.
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No.1048069
>>1048033
I hope you aren't saying that cuckime is manly.
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No.1048092
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No.1048423
Today I will remind them.
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No.1048424
>>1048423
That may be edgy, but it's 100% better than her below-Cal Arts bullshit on tv
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No.1048427
>>1047763
They only put that for 2 volumes, after the 3rd they removed it.
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No.1048511
>>1048033
Becky Sugar said that was masculine?
It's true then that excessive sugar will kill you
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No.1048528
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No.1048889
Is it finally over? Was this the end of the trainwreck? I watched it because it was allegedly the end.
They actually put some effort into animating it.
It's also noteworthy it and the previous 3 episodes were written by totally different people than usual. Meaning not even Sugar or Quarty were even involved at this point.
> wikis stating that the show doesnt even pull in half a million views at this point
I hope it's the fucking end.
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No.1048892
>>1046269
> "over the last many years of working really hard to do this."
> "working really hard"
…I call bullshit. You storyboarded worse than fanfiction.net writing and sent it to korea, who did all the hard work. Lost interest, and didnt even have much say in 90% of the show, the show went all over the place because you didnt even manage it, and the release schedule was pure ass.
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No.1048990
>>1048889
>one more season and a movie
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No.1049098
>>1048990
I hope that season is cancelled and the movie is put in limbo.
The way this episode ended and the way it was written seems be have been done in a way that if they ended it here there would be closure.
Animation was also unusually decent. Which is usually a calling card that they're doing the big finale. Lots of mediocre shows suddenly whip out the skills in the last episode.
I'm praying that the season and the movie are just things they have on the table because of contracts, but never actually do them. The show has lost all its popularity at this point. Even with the tumblrites.
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No.1049124
>>1046433
that second one is great.
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No.1049307
>>1047705
It's a pretty common trope for shows to start off with a monster-of-the-week formula until it's built up enough popularity to raise the stakes with reoccurring foes and develop more of a continuity.
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No.1049329
>>1047705
Sugar wasn't involved in most of the first season. She was still working on Adventure Time. She came up with the show's skeleton but it was up to the rest of the crew to run things at first.
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No.1049330
>>1046403
>>1046510
They hired a guy who's known for doing that kind of sweeping shot. It was all hand drawn and literally the only thing he animated for the whole show.
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No.1049620
>>1046631
Thanks for reminding me that I need to go back to my Twin Peaks.
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No.1049622
>>1046844
>I'm just describing what's very blatant in the game.
WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE THIS FAGGY GAME AS WELL?!
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No.1049630
>>1049622
Because gamers are faggots.
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No.1049633
>>1047705
Early SU was Transformers meets Sailor Moon. Monster of the week, training to get stronger, unlocking new powers and fusions to fight stronger enemies, with a mix of feminine insecurity as the character arc hurdle to overcome. They were superheroes. It was in the fucking theme song: "we'll always save the day"
That's why all the Gems could summon weapons, which was initially described as being something that is drawn from within, something quasi-spiritual which is intrinsically linked to the emotions and personality of each Gem, and why the earlier plots revolved around them needing to be strong and Steven needing to train in order to fight alongside and support his family/friends.
Later Steven Universe is just navel gazing insecurity porn where all the neurotic writers and staff members forcefully self-inserted and attempted to live the quirky, whimsical hipster lesbian lifestyle that they always fantasize about. Instead of being about fighting, it was about talking and lecturing their way past their perceived enemies. Everyone and everything that opposed Steven and the Gems were just poopy head bigots who needed to be put in their place by woke post-modern queers with anxiety and daddy issues.
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No.1049651
>>1049633
I think the only show that successfully showed the heroes finding ways to defeat the villains without killing them was Monkey.
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No.1049659
>>1049098
I hear that they managed to snag a Disney animator for the last episode.
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No.1054468
>>1048424
It's literally a fucking invader zim self insert
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No.1054477
>>1054468
He's young, so I don't think he'd recognize the style. Ironically Rebecca sugar would create the polar opposite of that. Johnny made a cartoon that accidentally attracted a fanbase he hated, to the point where he made a point of separating himself from it. Sugar made a show that attracted a similar fanbase on purpose.
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No.1055048
Steven Universe: the first animated show in history to win the GLAAD award.
https://twitter.com/rebeccasugar/status/1111545318863179776
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No.1055052
>>1055048
I guess they're just ignoring Mission Hill now…
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No.1055054
>>1055052
Too old and it wasn't doing it for the asspats/fapfuel for the writers
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No.1055057
>>1055054
But it won a GLAAD award back in the day. So the whole narrative of SU being the first animated show to get one is bullshit.
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No.1055070
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No.1055100
>>1055048
>source of article
>CBR
and it's not worth reading.
>>1055052
>>1055057
God that show was so good.
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No.1055124
>>1055052
Of course they are. Mission Hill is aimed at an older audience and the characters were designed as a realistic (though comedic) depiction rather than a glorification. In other words, it wasn't designed to subvert children.
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No.1055137
>>1047562
"Gems are a virus. We are the cure."
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No.1055140
>>1046428
HOW DO YOU FUCK UP ANIMATION THIS BAD
IT'S A STATIC POSE AND IT COMPLETELY FUCKING CHANGES AFTER THE CUT
THIS ISN'T OFF-MODEL IT'S OUTRIGHT UNPROFESSIONAL
I WISH BY "SHE" HE MEANT REBECCA SUGAR AND BY "GONE" HE MEANT FUCKING DEAD OF THE GAY CANCER AIDS
FUCK
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No.1055236
>>1055140
My sentiments exactly.
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No.1055244
>>1055236
Fuck that's a good post.
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No.1055261
>>1055236
>XJ9 looking ass bitch
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No.1055265
>>1055236
>>1055261
I don't see the resemblance.
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No.1055269
>>1055261
That is the one part in his post I had a problem with too
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No.1055277
>>1055265
Maybe it is the dead, soulless eyes and faking human emotions and reactions part?
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No.1055287
>>1055277
I dunno man Jenny still seems more human and genuine than Rebecca Sugar.
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No.1055643
>>1055261
>>1055265
>>1055269
Blax get the gas for Aryan XJ9
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No.1055695
>>1055287
Maybe hes talking about her skin condition upclose?
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No.1056034
>>1055695
A little spray on latex can do wonders.
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No.1056047
>>1056034
Probably not for Rebecca Sugar.
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No.1056052
>>1056047
She needs to grow out her hair and get smaller glasses, that would actually make a huge difference.
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No.1056475
Pink Diamond represents Lucifer who rebelled against the Trinity Godhead, which the Diamond Authority stands for.
Lucifer held special station over Earth as the Morning Star(Venus) before his downfall, much like how PD held dominion over Earth.
Lucifer decided that humanity did not need God to rule them. PD decided that the Diamonds needed to leave Earth alone.
Lucifer becomes the deceiver, or Devil, to convince Adam and Eve and other angels to rebel. PD becomes Rose Quartz, and convinces humans and other Gems to rebel.
War breaks out in heaven, resulting in the Devil being cast out with his demons, bound to the realm of the Earth. Rose Quartz and the Crystal Gems are left behind on Earth.
PD's Earth colony was established 6,000 years ago. Biblical Chronology places the rebellion in Eden approximately 6,000 years ago(give or take from our current year).
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No.1056783
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No.1057077
>>1055236
Why he gotta insult Jenny by comparing her to that ugly creature?
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No.1057851
>>1057077
Jenny IS an ugly creature.
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No.1057852
>>1057851
You shut your whore mouth.
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No.1057854
>>1057852
Though I don't super the show it had a fantastic faux 1930s modernist futurism and really good character design for XJ9.
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No.1057929
>>1057854
It's too bad we won't get any cartoons willing to try out different art styles like that again.
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No.1057966
>>1057929
>willing
Try capable of. Animation is much more of a craftsman's art then Id say anything else. Its carried from generation to generation. And I can't explain what happened but something in the 2008s just nuked the whole generation.
SU-tier stuff? That's like Lizards emerging from the water again.
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No.1062478
This show proves that zoomers will be just as bad as millennials.
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No.1062668
>>1062478
There will never be a generation like the greatest generation ever again.
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No.1062918
>>1062668
NEVER EVER…
At least until WW3 starts, then we'll get something that's somewhat close. That is, if it doesn't kill the vast majority of millennials.
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No.1063002
>>1057966
The tumblr extinction
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No.1063042
>>1057852
>that episode where Jenny takes the dogpill
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No.1063199
>>1063042
>WHITE GIRLS LIKE DOGS
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No.1063216
>>1063199
A little too much.
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No.1063225
>>1062668
>>1062478
>>1062918
I need to call /pol/ to forecast the future for this one
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No.1063227
>>1063199
>White girl
>Is a robot
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No.1063230
>>1063227
>is a girl
>is white
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No.1063253
>>1063227
90% of robots are whites and act white.
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No.1064061
>no synopsis
>no release date
>no promo art
confirmed for disaster
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No.1064063
>>1064061
You needed to know that much before consigning this to the garbage heap? As soon as I saw the words MOVIE I knew this was going to be complete trash, like the rest of the IP.
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No.1064109
>>1064061
Why can't CN just quietly shitcan this cartoon instead of making a fucking movie and giving it another season when it's practically already finished?
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No.1064113
>>1064061
God you can feel how no one in the studio really cares about the movie.
>>1064109
There wasn't a explanation about how Sugar lawyers had CN as a hostage as long that she wants to continue this pile of thrash?
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No.1064124
>>1064113
>>1064109
>>1064061
>>1064063
Would you faggots stop bumping this garbage fire.
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No.1064179
>>1064124
But that is why we are here
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No.1064186
>>1064063
At least Ebersole gotta finally sing in the movie.
>>1064109
There are many unsolved plots, like why the YD colony was abandoned in the Stevonnie flashback. But, let's be honest, nothing of that will be answered in the movie.
>>1064124
>Don't bump threads that I don't like
I can do this all day, cry babie.
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No.1064266
>>1064124
>don't discuss cartoons
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No.1066476
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No.1066477
>>1064179
it doesn't matter who we are what matters is our plan
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No.1066482
>>1064266
/co/ is not "Comic and Cartoons". /co/ has deformed into a weird place where "the hivemind" (actually three or four shitposters) dictate what can be discussed or not, according to their own tastes. The janitor obeys their will by deleting the posts that have been shitposted to death by them. I remember /co/ used to have cheescake and drawfag threads back in the Gamergate days; now the only allowed topics are some specific webcomics and live action adaptations of actual /co/ media.
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No.1066549
>>1066477
Fight Club the comic: Shitty way to end.
>>1066482
I really miss drawfag threads
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No.1066574
>>1066482
For what it's worth, the Yanitor will also delete the posts of the worst sagefags. It doesn't look like he ever bans them, though.
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No.1066628
>>1066482
Cheesecake threads split into
>>>/cheesecake/
and
>>>/delicious/
The last time we had a Drawthread past CY+1 the OP forgot to use proper drawthread etiquette and make a delivery anchor, etc, it would take a very high quality op to be able to bring drawthreads back which by the way died because they stopped being posted. No one wanted them banned like Cheescake threads which people only did due to the op having been caught for a bit of drama, like I said if you want to revive cheescake threads which I'm frankly all for, it would have to be in a progressive high quality form that improves on the old one's.
2nd, people most certainly used to derail bad threads in the old days, whenever someone shilled e celeb video's or online comics on paetreon they'd be called out on it 1st post.
The only topics now are generals and news which are both important to the core of /co/ as generals used to be good for discussion and at times even let people from the industry come on like they did in Cuck/co/, but it won't return to that anytime soon because well, administration (and I mean Jim and the admins as much as I do mods) and users both no longer offer anything to make people want to come here.
Let me ask you this, if you're an oldfag pro who remembers the old days like I do, why haven't you bothered bringing back those threads?
I don't contribute as much as I should because there's no guarantee newfags will learn just because they see, and because no one else will if I do, the newfag to oldfag ratio has been 15 to 1 since late 2016, where like I said people stopped posting threads for one reason or another, no one wanted to stick by their boards and ended up fully killing the culture thanks to it. At least the shitposters you claim shit up threads are watchdogs for sniffing out bad or low quality content
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No.1066752
The villain looks coincidentally like Jenny.
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No.1066761
>>1066752
>Rebecca either lurked Faceberg or this very /co/ and saw people calling her XJ9 and got so astoundingly asshurt that she made Jenny the fucking final villain
What a time to be alive, it's like the culmination of cal arts self insertion.
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No.1066780
>>1066752
i bet its a gem-powered robot made by an evil scientist who is a homege to that DragonBall evil scientist whose name i can remember or write
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No.1066784
>>1066780
>homage
Being so creatively bankrupt you have no ideas of your own so you steal from anime would be more accurate.
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No.1066786
>>1066752
>jenny but calarts
fuck this gay earth
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No.1066792
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No.1067941
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play. New trailer for the movie
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No.1067944
>>1067941
God that design sucks so much, they really expect this to be the end game villain?
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No.1067965
>>1067941
That new bitch villain is just an uglier purple Dee Dee, right down to the stretchy limbs, small body and pigtails.
>>1066752
>>1066786
>Jenny
Trailer makes her look like fucking Dee Dee. Now I have to live life knowing what CalArts Dee Dee looks like.
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No.1068011
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No.1068012
>>1066752
I was thinking the same thing when I saw it at Con!
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No.1068017
>>1068011
Absolutely shameless
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No.1068034
>>1067941
Is that fucking Coldsteel the Hedgehog
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No.1068035
>>1068011
I fail to see what you're implying here.
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No.1068050
>>1068035
>Giant tree machine drains all the life from Earth for nefarious purposes
>Heroes can't destroy/remove the tree machine have to go after the villain that's way more powerful than anybody they've faced
>Likely the villain gets powered up by the destruction of organic life
It's a very simple threat that we've seen before. Unlike those other times though, the animation will suck worse than a two dollar blowjob under the Queensboro Bridge.
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No.1068059
>>1066752
Why does she have a logo of testicles on her chest?
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No.1068084
>>1067941
Once and for all, they can completely waste the opportunity to have Steven use his ability to fuse with humans to defeat a villain that's too powerful for him.
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No.1068100
>>1055236
>>1066752
Now I see the connection
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No.1068215
>>1067941
Jenny Wakeman but EDGY
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No.1069241
>>1067941
God it looks fucking awful.
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No.1069244
>>1067941
Why won't this series just die already?
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No.1069253
>>1069244
Sure as hell aint their brain dead fans buying the toys. Maybe they make good money on SU flavored dialators
Hopefully after the "movie" cn finally kills it but i fear for what comes next.
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No.1069750
Really wish this place was up when the movie came out
Could've been fun
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No.1069759
>>1069750
Show sucks. Movie sucks. Only saving grace is having an actual animator from Trigger working on it.
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No.1069804
>>1069759
>Only saving grace is having an actual animator from Trigger working on it.
Okay that makes sense. I saw a lot of moments during the movie where the animation was pretty good. Man, watching smooth animation is just fun.
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No.1069819
>>1069759
>Only saving grace is having an actual animator from Trigger working on it.
Spinel sequence is pretty good, but kinda lame if you overthink it. Here's come a thought is plane boring. The only saving grace is having James Baxter working in like a 6 seconds sequence in CYM
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No.1069834
>>1069750
The movie was better than the series, but it still has issues.
>Most of the story is retreading the same shit we already saw in the show
>Peridot, Lapis, and Bismuth barely do anything
>Spinel's redemption arc is so good that you wonder why they didn't put more effort into the Diamonds' redemption arc
>The Diamonds wanting Spinel to live with them seems really convenient
>Show still sucks and none of the movie's events will probably matter in the show outside of a throwaway line from one of the characters referencing it
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No.1069848
>>1069834
>The Diamonds wanting Spinel to live with them seems really convenient
It's the diamonds showing up at the right time that was convenient, them keeping Pink Spaghetti as a pet ties together the segment from the beginning of the movie where they wanted Steven to stay with them because they're lonely cat ladies
It's a dumb premise, but then the whole diamond plotline was dumb anyway, and that wrapped it all up in a way that was at least good for all the characters involved
>none of the movie's events will probably matter in the show outside of a throwaway line from one of the characters referencing it
The epilogue series seems like it'll be after another small timeskip, so probably, though the diamonds and spinel are in it, so the events won't be entirely meaningless
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No.1069849
>>1069804
The trigger guy only animated the Spinel sequence.
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No.1069994
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No.1069997
>>1069848
I know it'd be asking for a lot, but I'd like at least one appearance from Spinel at some point. Even if it's just Steven having a long distance call with her at the beginning of an episode.
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No.1069998
>>1069994
They just couldn't let it be, what is this shit even about anymore?
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No.1070006
>>1069998
friendship but in the future.
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No.1070016
>>1070006
what makes it so future-esch?
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No.1070034
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No.1070035
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No.1070069
The first four episodes are out
Turns out Steven's stand from the finale was actually foreshadowing, and he now has a pink kaioken powered by negative emotions, which the show is no longer shying away from
Overall, the storytelling also seems better, this is all mostly stuff that would've just been filler before, but it's all tying into Steve-O's character development, which seems to be the main plot of this thing for once
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No.1073359
So, Future's almost over, not that anyone cares
It's far better than the actual series, but it's hard to even say that without stressing how late in the game this is for any of the shit this deals with to start mattering
God I miss painanon
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No.1073361
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No.1073363
>>1073359
It shouldn't take an entire normal TV season & one final special season for a show to actually get "good". Or at the very least actually do interesting things with it's setting. Japan has done this kind of story much better time & time again.
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No.1073377
>>1073359
saw "Fragments" recently, that was like the ONLY good episode this show ever had
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No.1073378
>>1073359
>God I miss painanon
Me too.
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No.1073392
>>1073378
Do you guys ever wonder if he lived and just decided not to come back after seeing what 8chan became post 2016? Like he had the misfortune of coming back the day Bui or the glowniggers took it down and he just decided not to return?
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No.1073395
>>1073377
It's had "good" episodes, they've always just been one-offs in a vacuum, and so rare that they seem like flukes
Future's been alright so far, and I think half of what makes this episode work is that the rest of the episodes leading up to it actually form a coherent plotline with shit like this as the payoff to all that buildup, instead of being strictly episodic
I don't know if they're gonna be able to stick that landing with just four episodes left, though
>>1073392
We can hope, anon
That's all we can do
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No.1073413
>>1073395
I don't know why they didn't do this format for the original show. Having so many filler episodes in between important plot episodes dragged it down immensely.
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No.1073524
>steven universe future has ended
>was really good in the sense that all the suffering was really worthwhile to watch, seeing steven realizing that he could ultimately fix everyone by making mistakes, but because he could fix everything without consequences he would never learn, stuff like that makes me grin a lot more than ever since it defeats the whole purpose of steven universe in the first place and I mostly agree with it
>final ending & message was rather cheap considering all of them did at least try to help but steven was just being autistic
>the different school of thought between greg and steven, greg wanted freedom and steven wanting purpose, really gets my noggan going
terrible but what a fucking ride of a show, steven being a fucking retard which makes the early seasons unbearable, wasted episodes on townies, way too much singing, good movie if you forgo the faggotry that steven universe is built on, fantastic plot twist or rather by making pink diamond some kind of souped up supervillian keeping a slave trade of humans, enacted a fake race war (which lead to more or a less genocide of all quartz), and faking a suicide is fucking EPIC. finally making rose quartz = pink diamond, there are no ways without retconning to try to make pink diamond morally gray. laughably bad writing
2/5 made me xd
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No.1073530
>Series ends with Steven getting Talk no Jutsu'd
Well at least it actually makes sense
They made a whole ass sequel movie and epilogue series just so that they didn't have to leave it at Season 5's trash ending
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No.1073535
>>1073530
I'll never know why this series lasted so long.
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No.1073536
>>1073535
Nepotism & sexual favors, I'm sure.
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No.1073664
>>1073536
>Nepotism & sexual favors
So who's rumored with the fuck flu?
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No.1073896
>>1073377
checking your double-dubs
I also liked Fragments. Feels like shit might actually get serious.
What if the final villain is Steven?
The "YOU ARE NOT MY DIAMOND" + steven doing a leaping shield-rush trailers looked pretty cool though the paired context was misleading, as trailers should be.
Maybe I am too optimistic but "Future" seems like it might fix some of the problems that cropped up in the original series, like Steven questioning how childish/feminine he was, a void growing with Connie so they can't just casually become a tranny all the time, getting taller/muscular/facial hair, pushing away his foster mothers so he doesn't tranny-merge with them so often.
Of course that doesn't stop Amethyst but she's always been the one to molest him his entire life.
Plus we learn Onion is invincible and he is probably the 5th diamond.
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No.1073931
>>1073896
You know Future is already over, yeah?
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No.1073961
>>1073896
>google "fragments steven universe" to see air date
>video results are massive spoiler
GR8!
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