/ck/ - Food & Cooking

olive oil is objectively the best

How the fuck did schmaltz not make the list?

>rendered chicken fat

>frying something in butter

>add a bit of canola oil to bring the smoke point up

>doesn't affect the taste too much

Am I a pleb?

>>2610

why no lard?

beef tallow you dumb faggot

No love for sesame oil?

>>5899

Got that right.

>smoke point alone determines whether or not an oil/fat is gud for cooking

What a load of barnacles, I use olive oil for all my cooking because it imparts wonderful flavours and canola oil is my go-to for deep frying where the oil is simply the cooking medium and nothing else

>>2679

this.

Before vegetable oil, olive oil and canola oil became dirt cheap most people used lard or tallow, and they had a hell of a lot less obesity back then.

>>5922

Whoa, back when food cost a lot, people ate less?

Tell me more, anon. These stories are fascinating.

Canola is good. It's just ignorant hipsters and people that like to call themselves "foodies" like to diss it because it is cheap.

Then again, these same people can't tell the difference between olive oil and canola oil, that is why most companies that produce olive oil blend it with canola oil.

>>5951

>Canola is good

Can't we call it by its real name, instead of the PR name?

Rape is good. RAPE OIL IS GOOD.

>>5951

>It's just ignorant hipsters and people that like to call themselves "foodies" like to diss it because it is cheap.

I disagree. The restaurant I'm currently staging at uses canola oil for deep-frying, and I just hate the smell and taste of it. I had a taste of one of the fries, it didn't taste good at all.

I try the same fry deep-fried in peanut oil and guess what? It didn't taste too bad.

>>7193

Canola (R-r-r-Rape) oil is shit. I wish places would go back to using beef tallow or even peanut oil for at least french fries but they wont because some people are allergic to the peanut oil and beef tallow costs too much compared to canola.

>>7211

What, are you some sort of men-stopping-rape guy?

>>7272

It would all be so much easier if society agreed to call surprise sex canola.

Then, rape would be an ordinary, good thing, and canola would not.

posting my copypast in very related thread. hope this helps.

good fats

>Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic extra virgin unfiltered Olive oil

>Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic extra virgin Coconut oil

>raw nuts

>raw seeds

>Avocados

It's good to avoid cooking with fats as much as possible. I normally cook and then wait for the food to cool some more before adding any more fats to it. Yes, some foods contain fat and are cooked, like peas. They do have some but that's fine.

if you absolutely need to cook with fat, coconut oil is the best. very high smoke point.

bad fats

Highly refined, and usually a huge omega 6 fatty acid overload. most are all full of pesticides because of how they are grown, and are over processed. Many of these are constantly aggressively advertised by evil corporations as "heart healthy" to lure people into a false sense that they are eating well.

>corn oil

>soybean oil

>canola oil

>flax seed oil (not because its bad, but because of how fast it goes rancid in the bottle on the store shelf without showing many signs. Just buy whole flax seeds and grind them before you eat)

>butter

>lard

I never fry anything. you would be surprized how crispy potatoes baked in an oven will come out if you cover them in diced onions.

I am not a doctor or a chef.

>>7288

The rape flower has this acid in it that isn't healthy for people and makes them really sick, so they can't eat it.

To make it into canola oil, some people from a corporation in canada and supposedly also teaming up with monsanto later on, selectively bred the rape flower insanely, until it had low levels of that acid in it. Later on it was then taken into a lab and heavily genetically modified even further. Today its more commonly named canola oil. It goes through a very harsh refining process from farm to store shelf, so even if you find it usda organic, it's still a very refined and stupid thing to buy. read ingredients on every product because like soy, it is sneaked into huge amounts of products needlessly.

bumping thread!

>>7561

>>Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic

Fucking kill yourself.

>>7671

you don't like coconut oil I presume?

>>7676

not that anon, but there's a problem with this new coconut oil fad: it's not fucking healthy. it tastes great, don't get me wrong, and nothing's terrible in moderation, but now we've got hordes of faggots dousing everything in coconut oil because it's this year's "superfood" but have neglected to do ANY research on the proportion of unsat:sat fat, which is what affects how HDL and LDL cholesterol builds up.

https://www.pritikin.com/your-health/healthy-living/eating-right/1790-is-coconut-oil-bad-for-you.html

>>7695

The website you linked doesn't seem like a trustworthy source. Here's the scorecard. No comments yet, but the ratings are questionable:

https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/pritikin.com?utm_source=addon&utm_content=rw-viewsc

While I agree that it is ridiculous how we got all these faggots who buy into all the latest meme-foods and go overboard with them just because buzzfeed said it was healthy, I do believe that coconut oil actually is healthy, and I will continue to believe so until there is reputable evidence to suggest otherwise. It's also tasty, and to me that is really all that matters. I'm only interested in the taste.

As for the ">Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic" labeling bullshit, that's just pure cancer… It's even worse that every bottle of olive oil is labeled "extra-virgin" like it means something anymore.

>>7700

here's a better source.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/coconut-oil

>>7701

Much better source. However, the doctor seems to maintain the old myth that saturated fats increase LDL cholesterol levels which while not entirely disproven, hasn't been proven either. Therefore, this doctor's answer is mostly based on speculation based on old myths and beliefs about saturated fats being harmful.

Ever heard of the French paradox? Might be worth looking into.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_paradox

>>7704

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_paradox

hahahaha i learned something today. apparently the opposite holds true for the jews.

>>7705

See? Saturated fats are good for you~!!

Well, that's not exactly "true" either. In my opinion, CHD is caused by a generally poor lifestyle and dietary habits, like eating large portion sizes and not exercising etc. The French may have a very fatty diet, but their portion sizes are tiny. Israelis on the other hand may have less fat in their diets, but their portion sizes are much larger. They also likely don't exercise as much as the French do.

And now we look at Americans; ridiculously large portion sizes, little to no exercise, a diet not only high in saturated fats but also high in everything else (including trans fats, which is basically poison.)

Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. You need a balance of both, and both Israelis and Americans are consuming WAY too many omega-6 fatty acids (found mainly in vegetable oils like soybean, canola/rape, sunflower, etc) while not consuming enough omega-3 fatty acids (found mostly in fish and fish oil).

>>7695

>nothing's terrible in moderation

Are you some poor bastard that just feels so guilty for putting shit in your body that you have to lie to yourself and back up your own flaws by trying to use troop recruitement so that you don't feel as guilty because you are surrounded by others as flawed as you? You may think that misery loves company but you are absolutely wrong.

>"yea I just quit smoking, drinking soda, microwaving my food, and eating fast food.

>"oh no no no no no no no?, please just trust me its okay to drink a little bit of soda?"

>"its okay to eat junk sometimes!?"

>"I smoke but only when I'm driving!?"

>"its okay if you just have a sip of soda!?"

>"here have another sip!?"

No thanks, Winners don't do shrugs.

>>7700

>Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic" labeling bullshit, that's just pure cancer…

what's cancerous is how people can't even have critical thinking. lets deconstruct what this means.

>Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic"

>cold pressed

this means that there were no chemicals or heat used to seperate out the oil from the pulp of the coconut.

>raw

>non-pasteurized

this means that after being extracted from the coconut, the oil was not heated.

>organic

this means that the coconut was grown organically and isn't going to be loaded with huge amount of pesticides like conventional or genetically modified crops are.

do your research before you talk crap about something that actually means what it's saying.

I don't want to buy some highly refined heated processed oil when I can get the most plain and untouched coconut oil.

>>7706

>Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. You need a balance of both, and both Israelis and Americans are consuming WAY too many omega-6 fatty acids (found mainly in vegetable oils like soybean, canola/rape, sunflower, etc) while not consuming enough omega-3 fatty acids >(found mostly in fish and fish oil).

I'm sure you didn't know about:

>flax seeds

>chia seeds

>walnuts

>pumpkin seeds

>acai berries

>hemp seeds

>>7716

I knew about them, but next to walnuts who actually eats those things besides vegans and myself?

(I once bought flaxseeds when I was on a health craze because I read that they were full of omega-3. Now I just love them for their taste and texture.)

>>7714

You're missing the point. All oil, especially coconut oil should be like that and shouldn't require special labeling to distinguish it from the shitty stuff.

Also, this labeling gives many companies an excuse to make their oil more expensive than the generic brands. You ever hear of olive oil fraud? Who's to say your "Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic" coconut oil is ACTUALLY "Cold pressed raw non-pasteurized organic" coconut oil?

>>7719

I eat walnuts most days.

whats even better is when I make trail mix. just raisins and walnuts and peanuts and almonds and everything. sometimes some pink himalayan salt and cinnamon.

>>7720

olive oil fraud happens because it's easy for the olive oil mafia (no I ain't joking) to replicate the color, smell, flavor, texture, viscosity, weight, and so on of the olive oil.

coconut oil is much harder to fake because it would be more expensive for them to fake it out of something else (while still making it not kill whoever eats the fake crap) than it would to just sell the real thing.

I agree, all the oils should definitely be held to higher standards right from the very start, but the reason why certain products must be labeled a certain way is because the customers, basically everyone interested in avoiding all the low quality refined processed crap need to know which one is legit.

It is a huge pain in the ass but I rather my favorite brand stay true to its quality rather than just stop selling as "cold pressed" and leaving me to cluelessly wander around the store like an idiot and buy nothing at all.

>but its more expensive

don't buy obvious rip-offs.

>>7729

We're mostly in agreement then. I am in fact willing to dish out a few extra dollars for better quality goods, especially when those goods are something I use sparingly (although deep-frying with coconut oil certainly is a treat :D).

A big part of me just wishes that the shittier versions of things simply didn't exist so that the normal folk who "just get what's cheapest" stop putting crap into their bodies… but I guess I'm wishing for a utopia of another century.

>>7731

>We're mostly in agreement then.

I guess

>I am in fact willing to dish out a few extra dollars for better quality goods

this is what makes me upset though, I'm very angry that people even have to go out of their way in the first place to actually educate themselves so heavily so that they know what to avoid and what to buy. I'm angry that there are not universal standards even better than usda organic, and I'm angry that the store even sells the refined fake crap oil ever at all.

>deep-frying with coconut oil certainly is a treat :D

oil = ruined = unhealthy

>A big part of me just wishes that the shittier versions of things simply didn't exist so that the normal folk who "just get what's cheapest" stop putting crap into their bodies…

this this this

>but I guess I'm wishing for a utopia of another century.

My dreams, so close yet so far.

coconut oil because of its heat tolerance and its smell and taste remains almost neutral even after heated. another plus is medium chain fatty acids increase metabolism.

canola oil stinks and tastes funny after it gets hot and every pleb mentions it like its food of the gods. it's crap.

>>7752

I agree canola is awful, and although coconut oil is very useful for cooking in that sense, I wouldn't heat and cook my fats because it makes them less healthy, or even harmful.

>>7754

Why are you even here?

You don't cook.

>>7769

Ignore him, he's just baiting.

>>7769

I cook plenty. you want a pizza recipe? a good beans recipe?

>>7771

b8

>>7807

>not heating your oils

>muh health!

Live a little. I can't s stand people who limit themselves needlessly over health reasons. You are going to die some day regardless of how you treat your body; refusing to ever eat fried food won't make you immortal. Try to experience everything you can in your life, including the bad. Variety and adversity are the spices of life, and there is much you will miss by purposely avoiding it to "save your health".

>>7816

>this

I'm not one for tabaco, but I bought a monte cristo cigar a year or so ago. I didn't light it properly, but I enjoyed it when it cooled a bit, and I will try it again a few more times. Sure it's unhealthy, but fuck it.

>>7816

>>7817

NYET

>>7713

>>7818

You know this is basically the same thing I do with artificial ingredients. I always look at the ingredients in every food product I buy, and if I see stuff like "GUAR GUM, XANTHYN GUM, MONOGLYCOSATION AGENT, XANNOIPFOKSPK, SUPERCALIFIGAFRAGILISATIXL" I put it back on the shelf…

Sorry, I only eat food. (´･ω･`)

I'd smoke a cigar though…

>>7819

can't tell if joking or just not very smart.

>>7825

I'm not joking, nor am I trying to be smart. I just refuse to consume stuff that isn't food.

>>7825

so if you were to pick up a bag of chips containing sodium diacetate you wouldn't buy/eat them?

>>7826

I agree.

>>7828

"wait so you want eat corn syrup, titanium dioxide, tbhq, pgpr, and yellow 5?"

haha no.

>>7836

don't move the goalposts you shitface. would you or would you not eat what amounts to vinegar salt just because it has a scary name? does xanthan gum scare you? stop eating cabbage, it's full of the stuff. yes, some additives like tbhq are terrible for you but you're an absolute retard if you write off any ingredient that sounds "chemically'

>>7837

I'm not scared of eating vinegar or salt so long as its vinegar or salt that I like, but they go to great efforts to confuse the public with strange names so retards like you will shit on everyone for avoiding things that don't appear trustworth.

they count on it that the very unhealthy things will be disguised by cleverly named normal things, if what your vinegar salt even is, is even normal. I don't trust you, but you're just a shill.

you can take your corn syrup and make like a bill cosby and go zoopity zip zop and the puddin pop

>>7841

yeah okay, i'm the retard. l2chemistry, l2nutrition.

>>7841

>they go to great efforts to confuse the public with strange names so retards like you will shit on everyone for avoiding things that don't appear trustworth.

Jesus christ, just pick a fucking chemistry book you moron.

>>7859

I doubt anyone here will defend corn syrup or shit like that. The problem is not learning simple chemistry terms and then not being able to read 3-syllable words or technical terms without shitting your pants out of fear.

You do know that the same thing can have different names, right?

>>7859

you posted a picture of pancake syrup, arguably the most artificial product ever produced. stop being a retard and thinking that we're advocating for the addition of sarin gas particles into your organic seitan that you shove up your ass in order to preserve your tongue for cocks. you even quoted my post where i validate concern over chemical additives.

>yes, some additives like TBHQ are terrible for you

THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYTHING WITH A "CHEMICAL" NAME IS POISON. quit trying to get people on your retarded bandwagon with your grandstanding "we're right, we eat real food, the BIG MAN and all his JEW SHILLS are trying to hurt our feelies"

>>7861

This

Muh "organic non-GMO cold-pressed" foodie alarmist hipsters need to gtfo.

>>7866

As the guy who started this debate with >>7819 I feel like I should clarify….

I'm not anti-gmo, nor do I believe "cold-pressed" actually means anything.

However, I do support organic farming and having only real ingredients in my food products for several reasons:

1. It tastes 10x better. Real 18-30% sour cream with 5 ingredients (max) tastes much better than the lower fat 14% "standard" sour creams that contain thickening agents and sugars to compensate for its lack of thickness and flavour.

2. It just feels… more natural. I don't care so much whether or not it's healthier, but there is definitely a feeling I get that's hard to describe when consuming food without weird stuff in it. When I eat stuff with all those weird ingredients, without even reading the label, I can just tell there's something… off about it.

3. It inspires me to make stuff from scratch. Hummus for instance; the moment I found out there was canola oil in my hummus (which I'm allergic to, so I always got digestive issues every time I ate it) I decided it was time to start making my own. Now, my homemade hummus recipe tastes a million times better than the stuff I got from the store. I've done the same thing with tzatziki, baba ganoush, even potato chips. I do nearly everything that I need to from scratch now, and I love it! ＼(^ω^＼)

>>7871

>＼(^ω^＼)

Please stop.

>>7875

>implying he will

>>7819

"Guar gum is a fiber from the seed of the guar plant." Shit is natural as my ass.

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-919-guar%20gum.aspx?activeingredientid=919&activeingredientname=guar%20gum

>>7860

>>7861

>don't like shit ingredients in my food like corn syrup

>shills turn it into a "YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THIS CHEMICAL MEANS BECAUSE ADVANCED CHEMICAL NAME SO YOU ARE PROBABLY FREAKING OUT RIGHT SEE I TOLD YOU THEY ARE FREAKING OUT BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT CHEMICALS MEAN WOW!!!!"

you are the ones who freaked out, I'm going to eat organic even harder now just to get back at you.

you can take your corn syup and marry it.

>>7880

I never said I didn't like guar gum.

>>7819

to be fair your post was incredibly awfully thought out and made you look stupid, caused everyone (shills/idiots) to make the assumption that people that dislike low quality food ingredients must be morons, Or, you are a shill that wanted exactly that.

>>7819

>HUEHEUHEUEHUEH NO ADDITIVES

>I'd smoke a cigar though…

>shills

>>7871

>nor do I believe "cold-pressed" actually means anything.

you could have stopped being lazy for one moment and looked it up yourself, but cold pressed oil means that when the plant material is squeezed, they do it under minimal heat conditions.

other really shitty products squeeze the plants really hard to get more oil out but it causes pressure and friction, making the oil get fairly hot before even reaching the customer.

basically, the less temerature the oil deals with, the better.

highly refined oils sold at stores usually go through alot of processing and heating.

>uneducated stupid dumbasses shit up threads by refusing to understand what cold pressed oil is

>>7871

>3. It inspires me to make stuff from scratch. Hummus for instance; the moment I found out there was canola oil in my hummus (which I'm allergic to, so I always got digestive issues every time I ate it) I decided it was time to start making my own. Now, my homemade hummus recipe tastes a million times better than the stuff I got from the store. I've done the same thing with tzatziki, baba ganoush, even potato chips. I do nearly everything that I need to from scratch now, and I love it! ＼(^ω^＼)

I will agree with that.

>I'm not anti-gmo,

>I do support organic farming

USDA Organic doesn't allow the use of gentically modified ingredients.

I'll also say that I'm not against genetic modification technology, I'm against it being use irresponsibly. Humanity simply does not have the knowledge or skill to use genetic modification technology safely yet, so monsanto should stop using people and the entire world's natural environment as guniea pigs.

I hate monsanto.

>>7885

When I said that I don't believe cold pressed means anything, I just meant that anybody could write "cold-pressed" on a bottle of olive oil even if it wasn't.

>>7880

>Guar gum is used as a laxative.

Good to know. Now I definitely don't want to eat it!

>>7884

I've never smoked a cigar, but I wouldn't mind trying it one day?

>>7878

I'll cut down on the emoticons.

>>7882

Are you not this anon? >>7819 because that's who I replied to, and "if I see stuff like "GUAR GUM… I put it back on the shelf" sounds like this person might not like guar gum. But then you replied to >>7819 yourself. I think you linked to the wrong post.

>>7887

So I guess you're also a hard "no" on caffeine? How many other foods do you avoid because they have effects on the body when ingested in large quantities?

>>7891

Not a "hard" no, but I can only drink half a cup of coffee a day or else I could give myself a heart attack. I'm pretty small.

I don't see your point. Caffeine is a drug, which I consume knowing very well where I can find it (coffee, tea) and what effect it'll have on my body, but that doesn't mean I want caffeine in all my food products! Guar gum, xanthan gum, and all those other weird stuff though manage to find their way into nearly everything and are consumed regularly by people who either don't know or don't care.

When I eat yogurt, I eat it because I want to eat yogurt, and I could do without laxatives in my yogurt unless the yogurt is marketed specifically for those with digestive issues, and I happen to be having digestive issues that day. Actually no, I'd rather just take the damn laxatives in pill form and eat regular yogurt.

>>7892

again, I doubt that guar gum, in small quantities, will induce a laxative effect, although if you're particularly small I suppose it may. But really? A heart attack? Is it a hereditary trait/heart rate issue,or are you just worried because you're not a particularly large person.

no bully intended

>>7893

>again, I doubt that guar gum, in small quantities, will induce a laxative effect, although if you're particularly small I suppose it may.

What part of real food tastes better did you not understand?

>But really? A heart attack?

"Heart attack" was an exaggeration; my heart just starts pounding really really fast and I get really hyper then crash. It's uncomfortable but it isn't fatal or anything, but thank you for your concern.

>>7881

>you can take your corn syup and marry it.

Nobody here is shilling for corn syrup, but we are laughing at alarmist hipsters who will refuse to eat anything other than organic trend food.

>>7897

>we are laughing at alarmist hipsters who will refuse to eat anything other than organic trend food.

Let's see… every since I stopped eating crap, which was about a year ago, my acne went away, I stopped getting constipated once a week, I don't get food cravings which lead to overeating, I look younger and feel better and don't feel tired all the time anymore, and best of all, my food doesn't taste like shit.

Yeah, I think I'll stick to my alarmist hipster diet.

>>7894

I don't deny that additives like guar gum, either synthesized or organic, often have a negative effect of flavor, but I don't see anywhere in your previous post where you mentioned that. As for caffeine, that's probably a good call on your part.

>>7899

I mentioned this in a previous post >>7871

I'm almost tempted to start namefagging to avoid confusion… now that I don't use my emoticons it's impossible to tell which posts are mine. [insert sad face here]

>>7900

yeah, I didn't take part in that conversation. I suppose I could have dug through all the posts you replied to to eventually deduce which were yours, but… meh

>>7898

>every since I stopped eating crap, which was about a year ago, my acne went away, I stopped getting constipated once a week,

There's a difference between eating garbage and eating regular ordinary food. I don't shell out extra money for organic shit and I don't have acne or become constipated. You don't have to buy non-gmo food to eat healthy. This organic frenzy is largely scare tactics used by the SAME FARMERS to get you to pay more for essentially the same fucking shit. Organic eggs? Had em. There is barely any taste difference, not enough of one to pay twice as much, anyway. The yolks actually tend to be too fat and heavy and are more prone to breaking if you are making fried eggs, unless you break them very close to the pan. Organic fruits and vegetables? Still grown with fertilizer, usually a seagull guano nitrate mix. There is no discernable taste difference. Are they healthier? Who fucking cares? You're the sucker paying twice as much for the same shit. Who cares if it makes you live a few years longer? who even wants to live longer in a world like this?

>>7916

>There's a difference between eating garbage and eating regular ordinary food.

I wasn't talking about organic shit, I was talking about food products with additives. Sorry for the confusion.

>There is no discernable taste difference.

Yes, there is. The "organic" apples I get taste much sweeter than their pesticide covered counterparts. Same deal with beefsteak tomatoes; much sweeter. Garlic also has a stronger flavour. However, stuff like cucumbers, pomegranates, potatoes, bell peppers, scallions, onions, yeah… that's pretty much all the same so I just get the conventional kind.

>This organic frenzy is largely scare tactics used by the SAME FARMERS to get you to pay more for essentially the same fucking shit.

This is true for the most part, that's why I only get the stuff that actually tastes better. Eggs are a bit of an exception though: while I agree that the taste difference is minimal, I've read too many horror stories about battery eggs and the chickens they come from (eating their own feces etc) and I have unfortunately fallen victim to this particular scare tactic. Are they actually healthier? Hey, probably! I'll pay an extra dollar per carton juuuust to be safe… (I only do this with eggs though I swear)

>>7887

>When I said that I don't believe cold pressed means anything, I just meant that anybody could write "cold-pressed" on a bottle of olive oil even if it wasn't.

and go to jail for false advertising.

>Guar gum is used as a laxative.

>Good to know. Now I definitely don't want to eat it!

"Oh no! plant foods can have laxative effects! NEVER AGAIN!"

do you know that foods high in fiber can have laxative effects on the body? are you saying that you don't ever want to eat anything with fiber ever again? you could even end up in the ER with a clogged butt for eating no fiber. your doctor would probably yell at you.

>I've never smoked a cigar, but I wouldn't mind trying it one day?

if you are so against additives you should do some research on the kinds of things that are inside cigars. you might have no idea, and in that case I apologize for being so harsh. please get educated though.

>>7891

two different people.

>>7892

I can totally understand why you might want to avoid caffeine, especially if you keep finding it in alot of your foods and especially if you just happen to be one of those people who just simply doesn't handle caffeine very well. some people handle spicy food better than others so its completely understandable.

what I don't understand at all is why you are willing to be against xanthan gum and guar gum, and even more surprisingly only because of their possible laxative effects on the body (if even measurable in the small quantities that may be added to products that they are commonly found in) yet not against trying a cigar that has links to cancer.

I totally agree with you that when I buy "food A" its because I want "food A" not "food A + additive". I really despise and avoid almost all products that are dishonest about that.

I would say that so long as ingredients like guar gum, locust bean gum, and xanthan gum are organic that I would be slightly less concerned about them as ingredients- although I would want to do more research before being fully committed to any of them concerning the method by which they are processed.

I'm much more worried about ingredients such as:

>yellow 5

>magnesium stearate

>genetically modifed pesticed applicated soy that has been processed into soy lecithin

(I like organic soy lecithin however. supposedly has some nice nervous system coating effects and is a huge "fluid booster" for certain parts of the male biology, but I would eat it with maca root, ashwaganda, and broccoli to prevent its estrogen like qualities from affecting me)

>pgpr

>tbhq

>titanium dioxide

>any variant of corn syrup or "le corn sugar meme ;^)"

>highly processed white sugar

>any artificial colors

>any artificial preservatives

>any artificial sweeteners

>sorbitol

>potassium sorbate

>aspartame (look up monsanto)

>anything gmo (usually has pesticides that don't wash off)

>anything from monsanto, dupont, syngenta

>added aluminum (watch out for your baking soda)

>some people are effected by carageenan

>>7897

>Nobody here is shilling for corn syrup,

I'm very wary of the criticism against people who want to take care of their health. forgive me if my spider sense was tingling.

>but we are laughing at alarmist hipsters who will refuse to eat anything other than organic trend food.

>organic trend food

See, this is the reason why so many people scream shill. People who have a good understanding of the importance of organic food are not offended, however they fear that others will be mislead by a comment like that because they want others to know the truth and as a result eat healthier so that they don't support corporations like monsanto and their business practices. basically, the flipflip wearing hippies who only eat organic vegetables are freaking out and trying to warn everyone that there is a huge mass poisoning taking place. do your research on monsanto.

I wont say that organic food is perfect because it absolutely isn't, but if you want to avoid a metric-butt-load of additives and poison throughout your daily life, organic is the best place to start.

I would rather recommend that people just grow their own food themselves but I remember that not everyone even has a backyard of sufficient size to sustainably feed themselves.

I'm also going to say this: avoid organic food that's being marketed to the ignorant "soccor moms" who go "ohh la la gluten free hue hue, organic bullshit for sale oooh coupons!" because these people are the financial targets of corporate jackasses who only want to ride the organic bandwagon and end up giving the whole thing a bad name.

wholefoods is a huge outlet for those looking for organic food but it's also one of the many who are betraying their customers by charging so much money for products they simply should not be.

you have to be smart before you shop organic or you will run out of the store complaining that everything you saw was a scam. You would be correct, everything you SAW is a scam, however if you look closer you will realize you can actually find some food at a good price while avoiding the 10$ 2oz organic barbeque sauce bottle.

>organic rolled oats

>organi peas

are good examples of decent prices.

>>7960

>and go to jail for false advertising.

No, but after getting suspicious about my first bottle of olive oil I found out the CEO of the company that produced it got fined because it was 50% sunflower oil. He likely laughed it off and continued to produce fake olive oil.

>do you know that foods high in fiber can have laxative effects on the body? are you saying that you don't ever want to eat anything with fiber ever again? you could even end up in the ER with a clogged butt for eating no fiber. your doctor would probably yell at you.

… what?

>if you are so against additives you should do some research on the kinds of things that are inside cigars. you might have no idea, and in that case I apologize for being so harsh. please get educated though.

How often do I smoke cigars? So far never, and I'll probably only ever do it once to see what it's like. How often do I eat? Well, 3 times a day usually.

>>7979

>No, but after getting suspicious about my first bottle of olive oil I found out the CEO of the company that produced it got fined because it was 50% sunflower oil. He likely laughed it off and continued to produce fake olive oil.

that's why you should look up the "olive oil mafia"

it's actually a real thing because specifically olive oil is really easy to fake for criminals.

>How often do I smoke cigars? So far never, and I'll probably only ever do it once to see what it's like. How often do I eat? Well, 3 times a day usually.

trust me, you don't even want to do it even once even. nope nope nope.

I will save you the effort and tell you exactly what it's like if you promise you wont do it.

>>7983

don't encourage others to be bitches. cigars are okay, not my cup of tea really, but maybe i haven't had a good one yet. pipes are pretty fun, lots of variety in the flavors of tobacco even before you get to the fruit ones. the thing to remember with both cigars and pipes is you're not supposed to inhale, just swish the smoke around your palate and enjoy the taste and the nicotine that absorbs through your mouth alone.

>>7983

>trust me, you don't even want to do it even once even. nope nope nope.

>I will save you the effort and tell you exactly what it's like if you promise you wont do it.

Jesus fucking Christ are you a middle aged overprotective mother of three? Unless you're Sigmund Freud smoking a goddamn 20 cigars a day the chances of you living long enough for pipe smoking or cigars to have a detrimental effect on your health is slim.

>>7983

>you don't even want to do it even once even. nope nope nope.

They said literally the exact same thing to me about marmite, natto, octopus, and escargot… I like all of those things.

>>7988

other anon here, when I tried, and I smoked a higher quality cigar, when it wasn't burning too hot, I smelled and tasted aromas of pleasantly scented woods, hints of coffee and cocoa, and a smoothness like vanilla while not at all tasting like it. When it burned too hot, it was like acrid burning leaves. Protip, watch a guide on how to light and smoke one, and have it on a day that you're feeling in good spirits. I most certainly wouldn't recommend smoking them with any kind of regularity, and I my self wouldn't smoke more than two a year, just as much to maintain the uniqueness of the act as for health reasons.

>>2610

olive oil

peanut oil

pork lard

/thrad

>>8049

You forgot butter.

Literally the only fats I use are butter, olive oil, and animal fats. Sometimes I use coconut oil for curries but I usually use that by cooking down coconut milk.

I never understood the point of those homoerotic vegetable and nut oils nowadays.

attention! this post refers to taste only, if you want to be a healthfag do your oil pulling somewhere else

>GOD TIER

duck fat

clarified butter/ghee

coconut oil

EV olive oil

>DELICIOUS ENOUGH FOR EVERYDAY USE TIER

pork lard

beef tallow

chicken schmaltz

sunflower oil

rice bran oil

peanut oil

corn oil

>GET AWAY FROM ME TIER

canola oil

soybean oil

palm kernel oil

> WHAT ARE YOU DOING TIER

chinese gutter oil

>>5902

>lard

Are you a fucking burger or something?

>>7871

>2.

That's called placebo anon.

american fat