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b33da8  No.845585

Should I be worried?

I plan to have kids

but If those kids don't share my blood

could I ever loved them?

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1260cd  No.845595

>>845585

Dude, do you know what MICRO means, or how this microchimerism thing works?

It means some cells from his stepbrother might end up a liver cell or something.

The only reason where that even is a problem if you wanna marry a messed single mom/divorcee and/or a girl that has had a number of abortions, in which case, you have way bigger issues that a couple of microns of your kid's toenail having half of some other dude's DNA.

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1260cd  No.845596

>>845595

>The only reason where that even is a problem

As in, where microchimerism even happens.

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5f6a35  No.845602

>Should I be worried?

Yes, your kid will spontaneously combust and God will send you to hell for it.

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8b8391  No.845760

File: df12c9216888873⋯.png (1.57 MB, 1864x2628, 466:657, roastie_cherrypick.png)

Telegony is real.

I married a virgin Christian girl.

>where? how did you find a virgin?

She's Asian.

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89eb09  No.845761

>>845760

I married a virgin christian girl and didn't have to leave the race

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fb777c  No.845770

>>845760

Telegony is 19th century nonsense that cant physically work.

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8b8391  No.845776

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89eb09  No.845777

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8b8391  No.845778

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89eb09  No.845779

>>845778

What does any of this have to do with your miscegenation

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8b8391  No.845780

>>845779

It wasn't a reply to you, /pol/ screecher. It was an addendum to my previous link, hence the sage. Why are you so butt frustrated and defensive of degenerate women, denying all possibility that God would judge them and the fools that would marry them, while defaming Christian men that choose chaste women? Is it all in the name of race? Would you give up your moral standards to defend a slut just because she is white?

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89eb09  No.845781

>>845780

My mistake then

I don't defend degenerate women, I'm pointing out your cope as you mischaracterize your white christian sisters and kinswomen as sluts.

If you weren't coping (or simply shilling against white reproduction, who knows) you wouldn't engage in these tactics.

There are literally millions of suitable Christian virgin women in this country. Even if they were non virgin at a higher rate than asians, (you've only provided a screen cap anecdote), demographics mean that white virgin christian women are more numerous than asian.

If you find yourself unable to fetch a superior woman your options are to improve yourself or compromise. I might agree that compromising on race is preferable over virginity, but coming here and playing the fox and the grapes is pathetic.

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8b8391  No.845783

>>845781

I engage in truth. I am not mischaracterizing anyone. I am from the Deep South in the heart of rural America, and I have my own eyes and my own experiences. I can dig up copypasta that other people have posted if you desire statistics. I don't aim to show anyone for anything other than what they are. There are millions of Christian women, but to say there are millions of virgins is foolish.

https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2017/04/06/doom-and-gloom-and-the-amount-of-attractive-christian-virgins-part-3/

>In conclusion, there are approximately 545,241 Christian women in the US aged 18-29 who regularly attend Church, aren't overweight or obese, are virgins at marriage, and are currently single. This is approximately 2.15% of the 18-29 total women population (545,241 / 25,332,752). In the US total population it is .17% (545,241 / 320,090,000).

https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/weak-men-are-screwing-her-feminism-up/

>I’ve never been married and I’m in my 40’s. There are a lot of families present, but it seems like the men come only after they’re married. The few guys that are there usually aren’t the “manly” men that I know I’m looking for. I think there is a lack of “real” men in the church.

>Well, they need to get over it, because we’re here and we’re waiting! “Man-up” and come and find us. There are a lot of gorgeous single women in the church, so get the men in here!

Your pedestalization of white women is your own undoing. I understand the sentiments of nationalism, and have such myself, but not at the cost of my foundation which is Christ and the Bible. My intent in stating my own marriage was to help other Christian men in finding a wife that is virgin. It's commonly asked to me where I found my wife, and I broadly answered that question.

>demographics mean that white virgin christian women are more numerous than asian

In the West, that is probably true, just by numbers. Globally, that is extremely erroneous. There are likely more virgin Asian women than exists white women, virgin and non-virgin, in total. Thus, the question that comes: what are you going to compromise on? Your race or your morality? That's your own personal struggle. I made my choice and I am happy and blessed for it.

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89eb09  No.845784

File: 418a20932d47614⋯.png (101.68 KB, 640x487, 640:487, blogayersfigure1_w640.png)

>>845783

>There are likely more virgin Asian women than exists white women, virgin and non-virgin, in total.

There are more christian virgin women that speak your language globally than asian christian women that speak your language. In the west the disparity is surely greater.

>Thus, the question that comes: what are you going to compromise on?

I did not have to compromise and neither does anyone else. That's my point.

If only 35% of christian women in your race and in your age range are virgin, then you need to be in the top 35% of eligible bachelors. This is the case for evangelical 20 somethings.

I'm from the south too and we both know there are great young women dying to be married in every southern church. Signaling that you value purity only raises your standing with them.

Your blog articles pessimistically look at the percentage of total population which is really not relevant.

You compromised, I did not, and you're getting mad and projecting about it. Fox and the grapes.

>Your pedestalization of white women is your own undoing.

Mgtow language and totally unfounded

>not at the cost of my foundation which is Christ and the Bible

Again where am I advocating compromising on christ? Are you even reading my posts?

>It's commonly asked to me where I found my wife, and I broadly answered that question.

Ok. I shared my experience and you called it a larp. Hence, cope. You are also generalizing.

Imagine if I came itt and started going on about how all black men are criminals. I would be just as justified to generalize as you are about white women and virginity. Is that christian charity? You have no room to condescend to me in this discussion.

I hope the best for your marriage regardless. My children are going to look like their grandparents, and that is a blessing.

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89eb09  No.845785

>>845784

>There are more christian virgin women that speak your language globally than asian christian women that speak your language. In the west the disparity is surely greater.

More white, christian, virgin, English speakers than asian, christian, virgin, English speakers.

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8b8391  No.845786

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>>845784

>Mgtow language

>accused of a married person that promotes marriage

You really are astoundingly retarded.

>I'm from the south too

>there are great young women dying to be married in every southern church

Top kek. More LARP. No white woman here wants to be married earlier than 25. They want college and a career so they can "support myself in case our marriage doesn't work out or he dies" garbage.

>if I came itt and started going on about how all black men are criminals

That would be pretty based and correct, despite being irrelevant to the thread, and not a white knighting LARP like you're doing now. My initial post was relevant to virginity.

>than asian christian women that speak your language

Irrelevant. My wife didn't speak English when we met. We conversed through translator apps. She is now fluent.

>blog articles

>percentage

It listed a total number, just barely over 500k, and did not specify any race, just Christian women. You are grasping hard.

>getting mad and projecting about it

>Fox and the grapes

Hilarious. My initial post could be seen by some as arrogance. Your initial post was butt fluster that I had married an Asian woman. Do you have any truth in you, or just misdirection and attacks?

You know, in order for rhetoric to be powerful, it has to have truth.

To complete my time in this thread, as I don't wish to derail it any further, I will end in copypasta statistics. Do please keep LARPing and making me out to be MGTOW incel manbaby, though, anon. Whatever helps your ego. My happiness seems to have taken a great toll on it.

>pasta

White women are more tigger like, as the stats show. The best women are Asian women, they are superior to any other type of women.

Statistics say that Asian Tiger Women are the superior women, and that black, white and latina women are inferior.

Lowest rate of STDs AW-WW-LW-BW

Highest marriage rate AW-WW-LW-BW

Lowest divorce rate AW-LW-WW-BW

Lowest rate of single motherhood AW-WW-LW-BW

Lowest rate of obesity AW-WW-LW-BW

Highest level of income AW-WW-LW-BW

Highest IQ AW-WW-LW-BW

Highest SAT scores AW-WW-LW-BW

Highest level of education AW-WW-LW-BW

Lowest teen pregnancy rate AW-WW-LW-BW

Submissiveness AW-LW-WW-BW (anecdotal)

Lowest rate of fornication AW-LW-WW-BW

Highest income success of husband AW-LW-WW-BW

Lowest body odor AW-WW-LW-BW

https://archive.is/iknTm

https://archive.is/WaAcz

https://archive.is/bl7XT

https://archive.is/aUU5U

https://archive.is/lfoFN

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db219.pdf

https://archive.ph/US5PV

https://archive.is/Omaav

https://archive.ph/JSM3n

https://archive.ph/xN3M2

https://archive.is/vzWlr

https://archive.is/Qe9Pu

https://archive.vn/scdpJ

https://archive.is/L0MCU

https://archive.is/XvPdD

https://archive.vn/PzYwY

The data is amazing and as you can see, the higher the IQ, the better the stats, with Asian women leading the pack. Higher IQ in women leads to:

Lower rate of STDs

Higher marriage rate

Lower divorce rate

Lower rate of single motherhood

Lower rate of obesity

Higher level of income

Higher level of education

Higher SAT scores

Lower teen pregnancy rate

Less rebellious (tigger like) behavior, more pro-family values.

Lower rate of fornication

Higher rate of husband succeeding in work

Lower body odor

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89eb09  No.845788

>>845786

I rest my case

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485fb1  No.845789

>>845788

was your case that he was correct about you? your very first post was complaining about him

>I didn't have to leave the race

your next post was more complaint

>your miscegenation

and then you kept saying he was mad while calling him names

go back to stormfront woman

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89eb09  No.845790

>>845789

Where in any of my posts did I name call or give hint that I'm a stormtigger? I admitted the permissibility of mixing and even voiced concern for painting all blacks with a single brush

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e6eb22  No.845796

>>845585

Always marry virgin. No hymen no diamond.

>>845760

>She's Asian.

Based.

>>845761

My dad works at Nintendo.

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89eb09  No.845803

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0591e7  No.845808

>>845803

Frodo?

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1260cd  No.845813

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>>845776

>Telegony is thousands of years old.

So are the 4 humours. Are you gonna start basing your medicine off that?

But the only experiments they did were some dude in the 19th century making a zebra bang a horse, who's experiments no one could reproduce(same thing nowadays with a fruit fly experiment).

But let us see what lovely proofs our anon has brought up.

>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2003.00444.x/abstract

Unrelated to microchimerism or teleogony.

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/11133203/Could-previous-lovers-influence-appearance-of-future-children.html

>rhetorical question on a tabloid

>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ele.12373/abstract

Fruit fly experiment, as said above.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC40117/

Actual microchimerism, but functions as said above(a couple of cells floating around somewhere in the body from her kids, either living or aborted. See >>845595 ).

But if you are gonna make kids with the brood mare of the neighbourhood, you have way bigger problems that your kid's sphincter having foreign cells.

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16084184

Same

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10068676

Same.

>http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0045592

Same

>https://web.archive.org/web/20141113170929/http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.87.7.8656

Same.

>http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-discover-childrens-cells-living-in-mothers-brain/

Same

>http://blogs.plos.org/dnascience/2012/10/25/male-dna-in-female-brains-revisited/

Same.

>http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120926213103.htm

Same

>https://web.archive.org/web/20151024154921/https://kopfinstruments.com/Carrier/downloads/Carrier79.pdf

Same(seriously, this is the fourth article on the brain cells thing)

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23954393

Unrelated to the subject at hand.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3545914/

It itself says it's conclusions regarding aggravating factors are inconclusive.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3654737/

5th paper on the brain thing. Doesn't even give new info, just speculates on what questions we could ask.

>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293315/

Same.

>https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00154/full

What's this supposed to show?

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1260cd  No.845814

>>845813

*who's result

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1ffb9f  No.845816

>>845813

Telegony is not about genotype but the relation between phenotype and genotype - which is mystical.

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0b7256  No.845818

>>845813

>if God Himself told me it exists, I wouldn't believe it

What do you gain by not shaming sluts, anon? You seem very invested in sluts being ok.

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1260cd  No.845820

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>>845816

>not about genotype but the relation between phenotype and genotype - which is mystical.

What you just said is so idiotic, i didn't even know how to respond.

The relationship between phenotype and genotype is one of the most basic genetic things there can be.

It's what Mendel was doing with his wrinkled peas 200 years ago.

>>845818

Quit your /r9k/ raving.

You were talking about teleogony and microchimerism,(and you brought random studies you found online, to sound scientific)

I showed how the first is pseudoscience, and the second you don't know what the winnie the pooh it's about.

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0b7256  No.845821

>>845820

>you were talking

I've been lurking. There are IDs here. You've stated your opinion several times with some malice and and obvious bias towards not shaming sluts. You seem like a status quo NPC.

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1260cd  No.845822

>>845821

Again, i dont care about your /r9k/ neurosis.

This is about teleogony and microchimerism.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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1ffb9f  No.845833

>>845820

Don't be so quick to call others stupid. This pea example from eigth grade is oversimplified at best.

It cannot explain why environment changes gene expression, for example why domesticated pigs regain boar characteristics when released into the wild or why they lost it in the first place. Behaviour alters gene expression, classical mandelianism does not take this into consideration.

How or why our actions shape us cannot be explained, it's mystical. There could not be an explanation here.

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1260cd  No.845839

>>845833

>It cannot explain why environment changes gene expression, for example why domesticated pigs regain boar characteristics when released into the wild or why they lost it in the first place. Behaviour alters gene expression, classical mandelianism does not take this into consideration.

Yes, that mechanism is fascinating:

https://aeon.co/essays/the-selfish-gene-is-a-great-meme-too-bad-it-s-so-wrong

>How or why our actions shape us cannot be explained, it's mystical. There could not be an explanation here.

I wouldn't say it's mystical or unexplainable, just a massively complex system that makes classical natural selection valid in broad strokes.

Regardless, the thread isnt about epigenetics, it's about telegony and microchimerism.

And there is still no shred of evidence for some spooky composite sex babies(outside of, again, a couple of rogue cells for women that have already been knocked up a couple of times), nor any conceivable long-term mechanism for gene transfer from previous sexual partners.

There are plenty of valid reasons for not marrying the town bicycle, we don't need people mingling pseudoscience among them.

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1ffb9f  No.845841

>>845839

My belief is that telegony is a subspecies of epigenetics,for lack of better terms.

It is ineffable as that pertains to metalearning, since the mind could never expose how it goes about exposing things.

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1260cd  No.845856

>>845841

That idea falls under scrutiny.

How would it change the makeup of a kid that doesn't even exist yet, with the genes of a dude that don't exist anymore(the genes, i mean)?

That's telegony, not just some broad strokes epigenetics.

And if it were true, a couple's kids would increasingly resemble the father.

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1ffb9f  No.845866

>>845856

His spiritual characteristics goes to the mother, then to the child.

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1260cd  No.845886

>>845866

a)That's not teleogony;

b)Your theory isn't supported by christian dogma;

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1ffb9f  No.845895

>>845886

a) It is

b) That the lover takes the characteristics of the beloved is the basis of the incarnation, theosis and damnation. Love the world and you perish by your love. Love the eternal God and you're saved by your love.

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d0e021  No.845896

>>845803

Based.

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8f6a6b  No.845910

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>>845839

> the town bicycle

That happens to be most women in existence, at least for the West.

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1260cd  No.845922

>>845895

1)No one uses the word teleogony for spiritual characteristics. If you want to provide evidence to the contrary, show a link;

2)No.

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