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e0f52f  No.837147

What exactly is this book? I know it's the foundational text for Kabbalah but what does it teach and what exactly are its contents? What should Christians think about it? I don't really have any particular opinion on it so I want to see what you guys think. I guess not all Jews accept it just the super esoteric ones like the Hasidim.

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528a35  No.837148

>>837147

As you said, Kabbalah. It has more to do with Plato than anything Jewish. i.e. Gnosticism for Jews.

They'd sooner sing the praises of a bunch of uncircumcised Greeks than their own Messiah.

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bbd346  No.837152

>>837147

its esoteric interpretation of the tanakh, or atleast that is one aspect of it, as if its compatible with christianity? probably not, although some have tried to retrofit it into a christian context 'christian kabbalah' or Cabala as its called, we christians have our own mysticism so we don't need it other than a curiosity, check out Jakob Boehme or William Law for a Anglican mystic.

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528a35  No.837164

>>837152

It's not even close to Christian mysticism. Which is orthodox. It's Gnosticism. It sprung up at the same time as Gnosticism, but among Rabbis. It draws on all of the same neo-platonic texts. It's use of the Tanakh is merely tangential. Right from the beginning even on Genesis, it spouts Gnostic heresy. For example, it teaches the preexistence of souls (same as Gnostics) and that Adam and Eve existed in heaven first. That the material world of flesh are the very "skins" God clothed them with in their fall. That material reality in and of itself is a mark of sin.

No Christian, mystic or otherwise, would have taught such nonsense. Those who do have been formally anathematized since the 7th Council at least.

Anathema (3)

To them who undertake Greek studies not only for purposes of education but also follow after their vain opinions, and are so thoroughly convinced of their truth and validity that they shamelessly introduce them and teach them to others, sometimes secretly and sometimes openly,

Anathema (3)

To them who of themselves refashion creation by means of mythical fabrications and accept the Platonic ideas as veritable, saying that matter, being self-subsistent, is given form by these ideas, and who thereby clearly calumniate the free will of the Creator Who brought all things into being out of non-being and Who, as Maker, established the beginning and end of all things by His authority and sovereignty..

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bbd346  No.837167

>>837164

Gnosticism isn't necessarily bad as there is heterodox and orthodox versions, but I'm not going to defend kabbalah.

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34a2b1  No.837168

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>>837167

>orthodox gnosticism

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528a35  No.837169

>>837167

Even calling it heterodox is being nice, let alone thinking there is an orthodox gnosticism. It's absolutely Satanic. Not merely heterodox.

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e0f52f  No.837244

>>837167

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "orthodox gnosticism"?

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ee9d49  No.837882

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>>837148

>than their own Messiah

YAHshuah was never their Messiah. They are Edomites, cursed forever by Yahweh, as well as a mixture of Canaanite, Hittite, Hivite, and Kennite, Amalekites. Literally all the adversaries of Israel.

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1b88f2  No.837919

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>>837147

Jewish take on Christian influences within the work.

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