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The truth of Jesus is so true that it can be seen everywhere

>>835933

Maybe but I'm thinking if there is some specific meaning in this because it's said that Jesus was a Jew. It's also said that all nations will rise up against Israel, which also seems to be similar to Jesus on the cross. I'm wondering if it could be that one's outer world is an illusion and all one's enemies are "the nations" because I read in a book that the story of the Jews in the Bible is metaphor, and "Jew in Israel" has a certain meaning, as well as "Jew in Egypt", "Jew in Babylon" etc. Maybe also history is an illusion. I think it said the pharaoh was the ego or something. I really struggle to forgive my enemies and myself but I'm thinking if we're born with sort of a shell separating us from God and enemies really only hack away at the shell and bring us closer to God or something then it might be easier to forgive, also if enemies are an illusion created by God.

In all the countries jews were expelled, they were rich. Christ lived with very few belongings.

>>836146

Ok interesting. Not sure what to make of that. What do you think about it? I don't think Jesus necessarily is exactly like the Jews in every way. Also not sure if you view Jesus as a historical person or as a metaphor.

One could perhaps flip it and say Gentiles are tortured by Jews like Jesus on the cross just as well. Or maybe that Jews are a kind of elite and they are manipulating the masses of Gentiles, and at the other side if you will of the masses is a low Jew, who is then directly tortured by Gentiles but indirectly by Jews and perhaps by God. I mean as in the elite is manipulating the masses, and one person is alienated from the masses, and in that alienated state there is a connection established between this person and God, perhaps a connection between God and this person directly or perhaps with the elite Jews as God's tool which is an intermediary, the masses of NPCs also being a type of intermediary.

>>835907

I don't care. Just follow the Church teaching and stay away from Jews.

>>836189

well this is a discussion forum, we're here to discuss

I'd have to disagree, OP. Christ was without sin and never harmed a soul, and yet he was lashed and crucified for calling out the hypocrisy of Jewish leaders and performing good works. Jews, on the other hand, have been expelled from over a hundred countries for undermining the practices of every host nation kind enough to take them in. The Church established Sicut Judaeis to protect the Jews from being harmed by Christians, and in turn the Jews were enraged because it meant the Jews could not harm Gentiles with practices such as usury. If the Jews really were simple followers of the Torah who wanted to live their lives in peace and not bother anyone else, as we're so often told, then we wouldn't be having this discussion… and our coins wouldn't have ridges.

>>836206

Why are you saging? Are you the same guy saging almost every thread?

It's an interesting input. I'm not sure what to make of it, I'm not feeling very creative or smart, but rather dumb and tired. I don't know what to make of the fact Jesus was without sin and yet was lashed and crucified. Anyway I've heard that in the Torah there is this idea that either you yourself walk the path of the Torah or the world forces you to walk the path of the Torah. People might only have Jews as enemies when they themselves aren't totally sinless. That's one idea.

Another idea is that Jesus being sinless might be a metaphor meaning that our higher self is sinless, while our lower earthly self is not and therefore has both an enemy within (sinful nature) and enemies without (other people). Also I've been thinking of a similarity to autism. In a situation surrounded by normies the autist might on a surface level be committing sins against the normies, being unforgiving etc. This results in what the normies view as his weird behavior, and they punish him for it. But really maybe the normies are committing the same sins and are being punished less for it.

Maybe Jesus's body represents our own lower self which is a kind of a shell separating us from God, and our enemies are hacking away at this shell, apparently punishing us for sin, but in reality bringing us closer to the dissolution of the shell and closer to union with God. The Jew being in exile, at first a slave and then later the passover, and eventually reaching Israel. Just metaphor or reflected in the actual Jews I don't know. Enough of my retarded incoherent rambling.

>>836199

Okay, let's discuss:

God says obey. You obey and stay away from the Christ killers. If you defy Christ, then you're not really Christian because you don't believe Christ is God.

>>836217

Pardon me for being presumptuous but to complain about someone saging, in my eyes, would be because one sees "saging" as a kind of "downvoting" i.e. a way to stop others from discovering the thread by pushing it deeper into the catalog.

On that presumption, I'd like to take a moment to clarify that saging is merely a means of posting in a thread without "bumping" the thread i.e. placing the thread at the front of the catalog.

While you seem offended by saging, I want to mention that imageboards are actually a Japanese invention and that the idea of posting in a thread without bumping it was an expression of one's belief that their post wasn't worthy of attention, an idea I'm sure you'll find to be very compatible with the Japanese focus on humility.

There's no need to be upset at someone saging. It literally does nothing.

What is it you want to know really? If Jesus would approve of your disposition towards Jewish people? "Love thy neighbor as thyself." -Christ Jesus

>>836250

Also Christ: Synagogue of Satan.

Also Christ: Uses a whip to drive the money changers out of the temple.

If you love your neighbor, you won't let the jews corrupt his culture with porn, usury, corrupt banking scams, pushing sodomy and sexual degeneracy, and tearing down God's true Church.

>>836237

Nobody likes middleman minorities, mate.

Especially when they are of a different religion.

>>836217

Maybe you're making it up on the fly and any semblance is because you use Christian terminology for your own teaching.

>>836267

>>inb4 the Jews of today aren't the Pharisees

>ok boomer

They aren't. Talmudics and Zoharists are much worse.

>>835907

>I was just thinking about how Jesus on the cross with all the people that are torturing him and killing him seems to be similar to how Jews have been persecuted and expelled from many countries.

There's no similarity at all. The jews were expelled from over 100 nations because of the organized crimes the jews were committing in those nations. Aside from that, Jesus wasn't a jew ethnically.