/aus/ - Australia

so?

you're the one watching and they're broadcasting it because you're watching it

>>144952

I found this funny because kneeling seems like a more loyal/respectful pose than standing

If they dropped and put their hands on their heads it might've been clearer

>implying the mainstream media haven't been fake news for years now.

>>145061

news.com.au/the definitive guide to the gay marriage debate

> omg how can beoble be voting no omg

> The No campaign in the same-sex marriage debate has embraced all the techniques commonly used to muddy the waters when an argument is lost. The hope when doing so is to overcome a bad adjudicator with bluff and bluster and steal the result. On this occasion it’s designed to mislead voters.

Ah, ok. Was there some big public event where no campaigners actually got to speak that i missed?

> Here are five of the best techniques to muddy the waters.

> The go-to argument against same-sex marriage is the slippery slope.

(Also known as a legal precedent, they are very common, a bit like if after the vote is over the temporary speech laws aren't lifted, similar to wwII taxes)

Voting No doesn't even negate this

> Now that we are here, the argument draws on the second debating technique: false equivalence.

Everything is the same but different!

> Which neatly brings us to the third debating distraction being used by the No campaign: deploy the red herring. A red herring tends to be a logical fallacy or a literary device used to distract an audience.

Love is Love!

> My favourite debating technique was the straw man: claim the argument your opponents are using is something it’s not and smash it to smithereens

Our views are the diverse ones! We won't tolerate bigots!

> The fifth and final technique, when all else fails, is the ad hominem attack.

Stupid bigots!

> Tiernan Brady, the former political director for the successful Yes Equality campaign in Ireland, is now in Australia as executive director of the local equality campaign. He says he saw precisely this kind of reporting before the vote in Ireland; the idea that the "no" vote had an edge.

Wow it's like irish people should get a say in our little survey

> Tiernan Brady is an Irish political and LGBT rights and equality campaigner. He is the Director of Australians for Equality which runs the Equality Campaign for Marriage Equality in Australia with Australian Marriage Equality.[1] He was the Director of Gay HIV Strategies in GLEN – The Irish Gay and Lesbian Equality Network.[2] and the political director of the Yes Equality campaign [3]

- from wikipedia

> In 2016, Brady moved to Australia to work with Australian Marriage Equality.[14][15][16][17] The coalition government led by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull had a policy of holding a national plebiscite to decide the issue. Brady designed the strategy to both prepare for the plebiscite if it happened whilst working to defeat the proposition and get parliament to pass marriage equality by a vote in parliament.[18] As Director, he launched the Equality Campaign,[19] a joint campaign by Australian Marriage Equality and Australians 4 Equality to push for marriage equality.[20] The proposal to hold a plebiscite on marriage equality was defeated in the Australian Senate on 8 November 2016.[21] With the plebiscite successfully defeated, the Equality campaign is now campaigning to get parliament to vote on marriage equality in 2017.

Can someone send him home now?

Read that closely

> . Brady designed the strategy to both prepare for the plebiscite if it happened

> whilst working to defeat the proposition and get parliament to pass marriage equality by a vote in parliament.[18]

And we are worried about barnaby's kiwi accent?

God, are the pollies holding the survey just to get this one "fag" out of their hair?

Why didn't they just say they were being harassed?

And if you want to talk about mudding the water / sowing doubt, what about bringing in brand spanking new speech laws such that nobody really knows what they aren't allowed to say, right in the midst of the debate, with hefty fines

I believe this is known as the 'chilling effect'?

> In a legal context, a chilling effect is the inhibition or discouragement of the legitimate exercise of natural and legal rights by the threat of legal sanction. The right that is most often described as being suppressed by a chilling effect is the US constitutional right to free speech.

> farce

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noun

noun: farce; plural noun: farces

a comic dramatic work using buffoonery and horseplay and typically including crude characterization and ludicrously improbable situations.

> Two can play at this game

Vote yes to declare war on ireland

The glorious defeat of the Leprechauns shall be ours! We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in Ireland, the land that raised our ire. We shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender

> Here comes the call to arms

they thought they were sticking it to trump but they were actually shitting on america

bunch of retards

Triggered the trickle detector

the circle is broken she says

Filth of the Irish

They bloody would get a vote on ssm and still vote yes

> I hope putin or one of the other old-world leaders humours the idea of giving these little lepers a taste of small-pox if a natural disaster doesn't get them first

Here's an AIDS strategy for you, vote no

Just kys IRA, you spend all this time brutalizing people for your sovereignty and you can't even keep it in your pants ffs

> BRITISH celebrity chef Jamie Oliver has thrown his support behind same sex marriage, criticising Australia for lagging behind its Commonwealth counterparts.

> “I’ve seen that a lot of my Aussie friends on social media are going nuts for this … at the end of the day good parenting is good parenting, happiness is happiness and love is love”.

And marriage is marriage as it is, get a proper fucking argument

Have you even seen so many foreigners weighing in on a barely legal, integrity poor, non-binding sovereign postal survey

You know who this really shouldn't affect?

> Vote yes to be used to further pressure little developing nations into things they do no want

Unwanted is Unwanted

Austrailia isn't Rent-a-crowd