/aus/ - Australia

same boat man , applied for youth allowance meme, got tricked and pulled around for two fucking months, they doubled down on jewing me 3 months of pay, but damn they own me a lot of fucking pay

They tried to jew me very hard when I started. They asked what I earned in the last 3 years of employment *before* tax. Well, let's just say that's quite a sum. Then they pretended as if I had all that cash on hand and never had to spend a cent of it. Told me it made me ineligible.

So the last thing I told them on the phone, and this was at 1pm on a Friday, was that "Fine, my kids won't be going to school next week because I won't have any money for fuel".

This was actually true. No lie.

By 6pm that same day, my first payment was in my bank account.

Somebody must have done it by hand at a branch, because I don't think you can electronically transfer money that fast even if life depends on it. Not a *first* transfer anyway.

At the end of the day lads, it is some human cunt sitting at a desk who ultimately has the power to say yes or no. "Computer says no" is not an excuse. They can make exceptions for anything.

As an aside, I can also vouch for the fact that as for getting a visa into this country, the same applies. The person on the phone actually can override all the requirements and grant the visa. The system WILL allow that. They will need supervisor approval though.

>>134338

they can do emergency payments that go in very quickly.

A normal Newstart payment actually takes 2 days to arrive in your account from when centrelink "releases" it, other payments take one day. You don't see that side of it they'd just tell you when your pay day is but when they set the current system up in the 80s or 90s or whatever they did weird deals with the banks where the banks get to hold onto that money for a day or two and make interest off of it.

source: worked for Centrelink as a casual a few years ago

Isn't the cutoff for Newstart age 25 or something? What do you do if you're over 25?

>>134358

Newstart is 22 and over, there isn't an upper limit as far as I know

Youth Allowance for studying cuts off at 24. You do get ausstudy then though which appears to be just newstart for older students.

No OP,your trying to jew us.

Any cunt who gets unemployment benifit in this country with physical or mental issue's is just lazy cunt,and part of the reason this country is sliding downhill.

Ive been unemployed for 4 months at the moment.Spending my nights watching masterchef and cruising imageboards for fappable source….but i have done so on my own SAVED coin.

No jobs in your area??…well do what humanity has done for a millenia,and MOVE to somwhere there is work.

People these days are so molly coddled by the social safety net that they would never have survived at any other time in human history.

>>134370

>SAVED coin

lol righty-oh then.

>>134370

>No jobs in your area??…well do what humanity has done for a millenia,and MOVE to somwhere there is work.

When in this country is there plentiful work? I'm not a NEET but holy fuck is it tough out there.

The economy is complete garbage and is being flooded with an endless stream of nonwhite migrants who're undercutting Australians for both skilled and unskilled work, you can go to uni but when you come out you find most of the jobs in your field are going to imported professionals with 5+ years experience who're working for 50k a year in roles that would would have once commanded 80k+ (this is in fields like Engineering and Accounting).

Most of the time there is simply no way you can compete with mid career professionals as a grad even if they're mediocre, you're going to cost money on net for at least 6+ while you're being trained up while they're bringing money in from day one.

The firms who are using these guys are not even going to advertise for grads, there's no job for you to even apply for. Top companies who're interested in getting the best people and investing in them (and working them to the bone) are still hiring but the lower end of the market when it comes to grad recruitment has taken a massive hit over the past 5 years. That's not to even start on ethnic nepotism, chinks are making big inroads, for example they bought John Holland Group a few years ago and are preferentially hiring chinks directly from China.

For unskillled work it's even worse, there are massive swaths of the labour market where whites (and particularly white men) are just outright excluded, once upon a time someone who's having a shit time of it would just get a job at a servo to tide them over but now half these jobs are filled by chinks/indians who're sourced from ethnic recruiters. These cunts "study" bullshit courses like "culinary certificates" at sham colleges whose names you've never heard of that draw courses out over 18+months so the shitskins can use their student visa as a defacto work visa. They're only allowed to work 40 hours a fortnight but work more illegally, and for $8-10 hour. The employers know they have something over them with the visa issues so they won't rat to fair work Australia so even if you as an Australia wanted to work for half the minimum wage they wouldn't hire you because they have nothing to hold over your head and you could complain to Fair Work a year later and get back pay for what you should have been paid.

Then all the payroll/admin work all goes directly to women who're just deadweight parasites.

If you get a casual labouring job through some recruitment firm you'll find you're getting charged out for as much as $50/hour and being paid $22/hour and worked like a dog, with the difference covering the layer of useless women running the recruitment firm, who're sitting around all day drinking coffee and gossiping about how many times they got pumped full of cum last weekend.

Fuck you and fuck this country.

>HURR DURR THERE'S NOTHING WRONG EVERYTHING IS GREAT YOU'RE JUST LAZY

http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/chinese-korean-and-spanish-websites-advertise-illegal-pay-rates-as-little-as-420-an-hour-20170717-gxcl3h.html

>Four out of five businesses advertising Australian jobs on Chinese, Korean and Spanish language websites are offering illegal pay rates as low as $4.20 per hour, a new audit has found.

>Two separate audits conducted this year and last year found 78 per cent of 200 job advertisements examined were offering pay rates below minimum award rates.

>The lowest rates discovered included $4.20 per hour for a nanny and $9 per hour for an office clerk which were advertised in Chinese. The minimum legal rate for both jobs is more than $18 per hour.

>Cleaning jobs were advertised at pay rates as little as $10 per hour. Retail jobs offered as little as $12.09 per hour, an average underpayment of $7.36.

>Every job advertised in Mandarin and Cantonese reviewed this year had offered salaries below legal award rates.

But don't worry I'm sure those jobs which were advertised in chinese and were paying illegally low wages were totally open to Australians, all these dole bludgers are just lazy amirite?

>>134347

Thanks for that. Very interesting. I did wonder if they really did pull out all the stops for me that day, or if they had something *special* like this set up with the banks (i.e. "fuck off you greedy banks, we're the government and we get to make instant transfers when we need to").

The reality is all transfers can be instant. It's not like technology can't handle it. But yeah it's like you say, they like to hold the cash for as long as possible so they can make money off it.

I recently was eligible for "early release of super". I get to pull out a chunk of my super in order to save me from eviction from my mortgaged home (lots of fine print involved, but that's essentially it).

The portion that came from the government arrived in 24 hours. The portion that came from a privately owned super company took 2 weeks.

>>134420

Some super funds block you from doing it by imposing restrictions of their own on it.

Technically the only legal requirement is that you've been on the dole for a particular amount of time but some will force you to provide overdue bills etc.

It's possibly to transfer your money to another fund and then pull it from that one though.

>>134417

*where in this country, but whatever

>>134370

You sound like a brickies labourer with no real skills. Yep, there will always be grunt work available, but some of us are trained for greater things. I know exactly what you think of that comment, but you can go and get fucked if you think I'm going to piss all my training into the wind just because a dunny cleaner job is available. Not that they'd give a job like that to me anyway because they know I'll leg it as soon as a real job turns up.

As for moving to where the jobs are, fuck you again. I used to drive 200km in ONE DIRECTION to get to my job in a capital city. When I hear "fly in fly out" workers crying about how lonely they are I want to smash things.

>>134425

No mate not a brikie,last job was operating a Bogger.

Yeh its blue collar…but when i was earning 150k plus a yeh who gives a shite.

But like yourself i cant stand whinging FIFO boys and girls.

Its our choice to be here,so harden the fuck up and do the job,or fuck off i tell them.

>>134417

>you find most of the jobs in your field are going to imported professionals with 5+ years experience who're working for 50k a year in roles that would would have once commanded 80k+

Even if you're not young and starting out, experienced cunts like me don't even get interviews anymore because they know Indians are going to be 1/3rd of the cost to hire.

I'm supporting a wife and kids in a country where the cost of living is quite high, but they come in and live on top of each other for $5 a week so they can easily out bid you. And that's exactly what is happening.

Plus, hiring Indians scores big "diversity" points whereas hiring a white cunt like me is almost a bad thing. The best person for the job matters very little these days. I worked for CBA for 8 years in two separate areas, and both areas had a policy where project failure is okay just as long as everything is documented. So why the fuck NOT just hire monkeys? 4+ billion a year *profit*. There's plenty of cash to waste.

>>134428

btw dont mind the canadian flag on my above post's…Just my VPN at the moment ;)

>>134430

Mine does the same thing even when I use Australian servers, it's weird as shit

>>134417

> 6+ while you're being trained up while they're bringing money in from day one.

I meant 6+ months here. should have proofread that block of text

>>134421

> Technically the only legal requirement is that you've been on the dole for a particular amount of time but some will force you to provide overdue bills etc.

Trust me mate, you need to provide a LOT more than that. It took 14 months for us to get through the process.

> It's possibly to transfer your money to another fund and then pull it from that one though.

In some cases, maybe. But we went to incredible lengths to make sure every "i" was dotted. We supplied the ABNs of even the most squirreled-away companies that actually held our funds. Once DHS supplies that miracle letter, any super fund or affiliation Co have gov't approval to release it.

Notice I didn't say "ordered to release it". The wording in the letter is a joke. It's pretty much "it's up to you, but we're okay with this now".

>>134429

>I'm supporting a wife and kids in a country where the cost of living is quite high, but they come in and live on top of each other for $5 a week so they can easily out bid you. And that's exactly what is happening.

Yeah and it fucks up the rental market too

These vermin are normalizing room sharing and it's become built into rents in some ares, eg: inner to middle ring suburbs in areas close to public transport.

eg: take an older 3 bedroom townhouse or queenslander in an inner suburb, if it was filled with uni students it might net say $150/week for each bedroom, so $450 a week all up. (you can tell I'm not from Sydney here using rents this low)

Some indian will come in and get the lease, then sublet it to fresh off the boat indians for $100/week and put 3 in every room. Suddenly he gets $900 a week, pays the $450/week rent and keeps the rest for himself.

And of course if there's upwards pressure on rents, he's going to be totally fine paying $500 or $600 a week to lease a place where he can do this because there's so much cash involved. If he gets caught and kicked out at most he loses his bond which is going to be less than $2000, and he could easily pull this off for 6 or 12 months before the lazy cunt real estate agents notice.

As more and more of the housing stock in an area is used in this way lower income whites end up being ethnically cleansed from the area and are pushed toward the outer suburbs where there's fuck all work and poor public transport.

Some owners do it too in the houses they own but that's often chinks subdividing rooms or putting in extensions and renting to chink students, and typically they'll live there or nearby and keep an eye on the place.

Of course rich chinks also buy houses and leave them empty as well.

>>134433

>Trust me mate, you need to provide a LOT more than that. It took 14 months for us to get through the process.

It took me one month when I did it and most of that was transferring it to a fund that would let me do it.

>>134433

>Trust me mate, you need to provide a LOT more than that. It took 14 months for us to get through the process.

I'm telling you mate, you had a cunt of a super fund that was trying to make it hard for you to access your own money. Some funds are just like that. A lot of the (union run) Industry funds are really bad for that kind of behavior. REST (who you're forced to use if you work somewhere like Coles) and Hostplus are both notorious for being fucking cunts over this sort of thing.

Dole bludging cunts

>>134435

>It took me one month when I did it

And that was years ago, right? I got told from SO MANY people who had done this before "all you need to do is…" Turns out every single one of them had done this more than 3 years ago, and shit changed into October 2016.

The hardest thing was getting CBA to provide the "3+12 letter". I'm assuming you know what that is since you did this with such ease.

>>134466

>and shit changed into October 2016.

It was before then but I don't see that anything substantive has changed with DHS.

The requirement for severe financial hardship is still that someone has received a payment for 26 weeks, provided that requirement was met any further hoops you had to jump through were put there by your superannuation fund and not the law. Maybe they bullshitted you and told you that it was the law, it wouldn't surprise me, the whole industry thrives on dirty tricks (like signing people up to life insurance they don't want or need automatically).

>The hardest thing was getting CBA to provide the "3+12 letter". I'm assuming you know what that is since you did this with such ease.

Why would someone need a letter about mortgage defaults when they meet the severe financial hardship grounds? I didn't have a mortgage at all.

You claimed it took 14 months, which would put your start date somewhere around May 2016, months before the time you claim the rules changed so I don't get what the problem was, the "rule change" shouldn't have affected you.

Get a job ya dole bludging cunts.

The country would be better of without you and the muslim hourdes.

>>134473

>>134466

I should say, severe financial hardship isn't the only ground on which it can be released, the 'compassionate grounds' relating to mortgages would be different, but I reiterate that it's generally the super funds that make things difficult for people.

ie: the fund I was with initially wanted overdue bills and shit before they'd release anything, just bullshit roadblocks, the one I transferred to didn't care as long as they had the OK from DHS.

>>134474

>>134465

>>134370

>working and paying taxes to support a jew government which imports 3rd worlders which make your life worse.

>>134519

good attitude ya idiot.

so i guess you suggest not getting a job and letting the 3rd world cunts take over?

Do something about it you wankers if you want change

>>134552

Cunts these days wouldnt know how to make a change mate.

All they do is whinge about Ma Dole…give me Ma Dole!!

>>134543

>>134552

>>135022

t.AFP

Paying taxes (working) = subsidizing shitskin immigration and Jewish government

Don't feed the beast.

>>135211

Who cares if people are brown? As long as they're decent and contribute to society (note how a lot of whites dont contribute.) See : this board.

>>135268

None of them contribute to society. They take what they can from the institutions Australians built and degrade those institutions in the process but they don't give a shit because the only reason they come here is to get wealth.

>>135268

Hello jew

>>135269

>None of them contribute to society.

Objectively false.

>They take what they can from the institutions Australians built and degrade those institutions in the process but they don't give a shit because the only reason they come here is to get wealth.

[citation needed]

>>135338

Not an argument.

>>135352

>Not an argument.

Can't you tell an argument from an insult you limp wristed faggot ?

Why are you whining on /aus/ anyway ? Has leftypol got too shit even for leftypolfags ?

>>135352

You don't even know what society is you faggot. If you think "paying taxes" is contributing to society you are a clown. Their very presence here undermines society. Multiracialism destroys social trust and social capital.

stop replying to this communist troll for fucks sake

>>135357

I never paid a lot of tax, but I know I contributed. when your work mate says "you don't know how many lives you have just saved" you know you have contributed.

But now the pajeets took over IT (using nepotism and immigration scams) and now all of those IT systems are falling to pieces. Sure they may be paying more tax and pissing their money around, but this place in crumbling due to their presence.

Eventually the pajeets will fuck up big time and plunge a city into chaos. In the ensuing rioting I wonder if the pajeets will realize it was their own fault.

>>134474

How is anyone going to get a job if you are being under cut but 50% ?

>>135508

Simple…be better at the job than the cunt trying to undercut you.

Works for lots of us mate.

>>135533

You are so, SO wrong on that score.

I already was better than those cheap imports. CommInsure, for example, decided it wanted all it's IT contractors to be based in India. How do you keep your job in that situation?

EVERY cunt in the office knows how useless they are too. But no-one speaks up about it because "omg racism!" Their solution to everything is just to chuck more people onto it and split the profits even further.

I shit you not, CommInsure ended up with a policy that it's okay for projects to fail as long as everything is documented out the arse so we can "learn from it". Yay!

CBA's profits are so fat they can actually afford to shoot themselves in the head, day in day out, and still make 4Bn a year.

>is the government jewing me lads?

No, you are Jewing hard working tax payers. Get a job you lazy fuck, or join the Army and make a man out of yourself. Or if you like gay sex (which it sounds like you do) join the Navy.

>>135647

>CommInsure, for example, decided it wanted all it's IT contractors to be based in India. How do you keep your job in that situation?

THIS

>EVERY cunt in the office knows how useless they are too. But no-one speaks up about it because "omg racism!"

THIS

Fuggin gubemens thinks it's great to allow cunts to export jobs to India, jobs that cunts like me could do

At least they cunt-punched that 457 shit. Least now you don't have to look at the little job stealers earning 20k a year and stealing all the fruit from the fruitbowl

>>135022

I look fwd to the day your job gets outsourced to Mexico or a computer program, cunt

>>135533

I rather just stab the cunt

How much money do you get on Newstart? Is it enough to pay to rent by yourself?

>>134419

I've love for this sort of thing to actually be pursued criminally - by that I mean warrants and handcuffs.

Heck I'd make it so the most common day for police chasing down hiring managers and HR would be Friday, really but the fear-of-god into them all that the earliest they'll see their lawyer is Monday, so enjoy a weekend in the lockhouse.

The government stands alongside this and approves this - would be marvellous to see someone actually chasing these things down.

>>192183

Thanks for the informative answer. I'm in WA, and Newstart looks to be about $270 a week here. I was thinking that I could get Newstart and find a place under $270 a week to rent in by myself. I found a place for $230 a week but then I'd only have $40 left over for utilities and petrol. And yeah, pretty much the only way to get a job is through lying or nepotism.

>>192183

>you cannot live on the dole on your own UNLESS of course you goto a boarding house or rent with others which to be honest i have been there and done that and i can honestly say u have 0 privacy and fuck that shit.

Yeah there are some places I found in WA that are only about $120 a week to rent, but they're all shared with other people. I want to rent by myself, not with any fuckwit roommates around me. I need privacy.

>>134420

>The reality is all transfers can be instant. It's not like technology can't handle it. But yeah it's like you say, they like to hold the cash for as long as possible so they can make money off it.

Rolling out soon. It's called PayID for us plebs.

>>192202

Not that anybody can get DSP applications approved anymore.

>>192312

shit, thats not encouraging

>>192311

Why are you posting facebook memes?