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>"He answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.'" (Matthew 15:24)

Looks like those filthy goyim animals aren't even supposed to be Christians in the first place.

>"For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, to confirm the promises made to the patriarchs" (Romans 15:8)

Self explanatory.

I've always used this bible verse when trying to show that even by gods own voice there are other gods.

>For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: (Exodus 34:14)

Theres a few in exodus like this actually.

>I would assume that 90% of this board does not think highly of Christianity

I don't think about Christianity much at all. I know Christians and like them, but really nothing about is original or insightful.

To take just two examples. First off, most of it's metaphysical ideas come either from Roman-Greco paganism or Germanic paganism. For instance, the concept of hell is a combination of two concepts in Germanic paganism, Hel, which is the underworld where the souls of the dead that didn't die in battle go, and Muspell, the world of fire where Surtr, the being that will enact the final judgement after Ragnarok. There's also a very important Egyptian influence, since the founder of Judaism, Moses, was probably from Egypt (Moses is very clearly an Egyptian name)

Secondly, the moral themes are clearly a combination of Jewish ideas and Persian ideas. The main influences are Zoroaster, who first put forward the idea of a cosmic battle between good and evil in the Middle Eastern religions, and rabbi Hillel, who was the first jewish thinker to put forward the Golden Rule.

Now, Christianity takes all of these established ideas, puts them together, and then pretends that what they have is completely unique and sigular, when in fact, as you can see, none of these ideas are original or innovative (or very practical, but that's another issue).

Also, I'm a convinced localist and want nothing to do with universal paradigms that pretend to be able to solve all problems everywhere forever. My experience is that this leads to nothing but chaos and the very opposite of what it tries to achieve

>"However, I admit that I worship the God of our ancestors as a follower of the Way, which they call a sect. I believe everything that is in accordance with the Law and that is written in the Prophets," (Acts 24:14)

Effectively states that Christians still worship the God of the Jews, and that their worship is still in line with Jewish teachings, along with the fact that Christianity is basically a Jewish sect.

>"If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters–yes, even their own life–such a person cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)

Basically you have to hate your family and yourself to be a Christian. How interesting.

>"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise." (Galatians 3:28-29)

Spiritual communism, basically. Everyone is equal before God, and if you're a Christian, you are a Jew (an heir to Abraham).

Fuck, I keep finding new ones after I post.

>"For the promise that Abraham would be heir of the world was not made to him and his descendants through the Law, but through the righteousness that comes by faith." (Romans 4:13)

The Bible says that Abraham (a Jew) and his descendants (Jews, and Christians) would be the heir to the world. Nice.

>>15661

Letters to the Romans is believed to have been written from the year 50 to 55

The temple in Jerusalem wasn't even destroyed until 70

Jews who believed in Jesus weren't Christians yet and still worshipped in synagogues with other Jews throughout that century

The text there refers to both Jews who did and those who did not believe in Jesus as a messiah.

There's things in the Bible to point out that aren't good for those who follow xtianity, but making really rebuttable and ill informed meme images isn't how to do it.

The Council of Nicea alone, which was the defining moment of Xtianity, wouldn't happen for another 200 years after that book was written.

You can't just make points based on the text alone without the context and zeitgeist of the image. You have to be smarter than that.

>>15775

I understand that, but all Christian teachings have come from or are influenced by the Bible in some way or another. Whether it be a specific interpretation of a Biblical scripture that has been labelled as heresy, the concept of the sacraments, etc., all of it leads back to the Bible in some way.

So while attacking various Christian beliefs that happened well after the conception and spread of Christianity may be useful, if we attack and defeat Christianity based on Biblical evidence, one of the core pillars of Christian values will have been broken and shattered. Furthermore, Yeshua-boys use specific scriptures and passages of the Bible out of context for their own use (best example I can think of is a specific verse from Matthew chapter 10 which is used to say, "muh Xtianity is ackchually alpha male and allows violence", even though the immediate following versus are Matthew 10:35-37. which are pretty fucked up), so I don't see an issue with us doing to same, and when many Biblical verses are taken into context, well, it yields a lot more fucked up shit.

So yes, attacking Christianity outside of the context of the Bible is very good, but if we can turn the Bible against hardcore Yeshua-boys, we successfully fracture and break one of the most important pillars of Christian beliefs.

>>15662

D.R. MacDonald convincingly argues that the passages in Matthew and Luke of Jesus directing a mission to the gentiles was a direct contradiction of his words in the original text, which was the basis for Mark, Matthew, Luke and a few apocryphal texts. Another good quotes is

>Cast not thy pearls before swine.

This directly references us goyim as unclean, non-kosher swine.