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Didn't this same shit happen with Rage 2? Like this exact same instance?

How in the fuck can a company fuck up everything this badly? Imagine how many fucks up the next elder scrolls game is gonna have.

wew

I'm sure Starfield will be fine on launch. :^)

It keeps happening!

How's the game? I didn't care about Doom 2016 whatsoever, but yesterday I saw some of its gameplay and nearly vomited.

>>16884180

The decisions Bethesda made with ElderScrolls , Fallout and Rage 2(AKA magenta woke Rage) seem pretty fucking inexplicably stupid.

Methinks management has their head entirely up their ass and this is some employee or group sticking it to them.

>Oh I'm gonna get overworked polishing every pixel while you get coked up the ass? We'll see about release week sales then.

I mean, motherfucking Pete Hines just now paid to have his dick sucked in an "interview" about how much of a bully everyone was towards poor old Bethesda doing their best with Fo76.

Those people are entirely detached from reality

>>16884198

They have roaming enemies now, not just arenas with spawning waves, that was my biggest complaint with WubDOOM and they fixed it.

Too much bing bing wahoo for my taste though.

>>16884261

>no such thing as negative PR XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>16884336

>everything is a shill thread

>>16884395

>everything is a shill thread, but discretely.

>>16884405

Well when you have a chronic liar as a figurehead…

>>16884445

Fake data for the encryption/decryption process

>>16884445

for the Denuvo

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Should I go ahead and redeem the Bestheda DL code?

I kinda wanted it on Steam, but found out you're locked to Beth when buying the "physical" copy.

>>16884563

Just kill yourself for buying this in the first place.

>>16884567

You'd tell me to kill myself for buying any game, so fuck yourself with a rusty railroad spike faggot.

>>16884168

I almost want to think this was done on purpose by an employee there, but knowing Bethesda, it was just a fuck up, as usual.

Still, at least this time they fucked up in a way that actually improves the game, which is a first.

This is assuming that the "fixed" EXE can connect to multiplayer, or otherwise you'd have your explanation there to all those tickets.

>>16884563

Well, if it gives you a cracked version of the EXE you need to play the game, and with better performance to boot, that's probably a good idea.

Dunno how the multiplayer will work if you do that depending on how they implemented Steamworks or something else, but at least the singleplayer will likely work, even offline and with better performance.

>>16884571

Ironically, this is one of the consequences of the "pirate every game!" attitude. If all games are equally bad and unworthy, then it doesn't really matter what you buy or what devs you support.

I gotta remenber that next thread about "piracy uber alle!"

>>16884611

>spending money frivolously means something

It means you're a fucking moron is what it means.

>>16884611

what a chump

>>16884623

hey everyone lets all get together and sell him snake oil so he'll buy it

why are you anons replying to this obvious cuckchan shitposting

>>16884625

Only if you have people who look slightly more affluent calling him a pleb if he doesn't have it.

>>16884635

>Most Aryan and Christian game of the decade

This is the lamest way you can imagine a medicore game, cuckchan tier brain-let.

>>16884168

a.k.a. DooD Soyhubnal

a.k.a. DooD 15-enemies

a.k.a. DooD the AAA platformer

a.k.a. DooD we can't make anybody talk about it so we made this news about DRM

>>16884407

Well Activision-Blizz, EA, Sony and Ubi are doing fine so it's not that.

>>16884635

Doomgoy is a jew

>>16884752

Pretty sure you're thinking of the Wolfenstein guy.

>>16884752

Christians can't be jewish, pagancuck.

>>16884452

I mean. There's tons of videos on it, but regardless, on some arbitrary Steam thread there's going to be Kalgayen and 5 other shills arguing Denuvo doesn't lower performance. I can't explain why or how they spend so much time on every Steam discussion threads slightly about Denuvo.

>>16884754

>From and average dude turned into a jew parody on par with Israel Man and Diaspora Boy

I'd expect nothing else from the swedes.

>>>/v/16884635

>bethesda game

>Nothing wrong with spending money on the most Aryan and Christian game of the decade

Go back to Reddit.

Thanks for the free copy Bethesda. Imagine paying 60 to 80 dollars for a .exe file that has no drm or denuvo. Just make the game free at this point. also the fact that you need a Bethesda account to remotely play anything and that the single player is more shit than 2016 is funny

>>16884923

No you retard I’m laughing at the fact that Bethesda fucked up royally and that they deserve it

Also only kikes like denuvo and DRM so seeing one forget to fucking have it installed and still making normalfags pay for it just seems hilarious to me.

>>16884198

If you're still around at the end of the day I'll let you know because the turrent took a while.

>>16884928

Not that guy, but I'd love to hear a dressing down of nuDoom.

>>16884792

>Jews haven't existed since the prophesied destruction of Jerusalem happened in 70 AD

Nice to know /pol/s problem is solved.

>>16884935

So keep in mind that I've never completed 2016, only reached the Thrust Boots part before quitting because I really hated it. And I only played the first level of Eternal. It's still not true Doom, but I'm actually enjoying myself this time around which is much more than I can say from 2016.

First off, what it fixes from 2016

>There are enemies, actual enemies, outside of the arena fights.

>The arena fights are very exhilarating this time around with nearly twice the enemy counts and stage hazards(there are now walls that fire big shots at you) and the enhanced vertical mobility(the pole vaulting works really well in combat really)

>The possessed no longer make sounds, meaning the soundscape is no longer dominated by loud zombies

>Glory Kills are slightly faster

>Instead of having every enemy deal a shitton of damage, Eternal seems to focus more on enemies firing more shots more frequently.

>Enemies like the possessed soldiers now have jetpacks and are more mobile

>Heavy assault rifle's scope is now a single shot sniper round which makes it very useful

What I like overall

>The vertical mobility is very enjoyable. The horizontal mobility isn't there yet but I assume it's because I don't have the dash, which begs the question why it's not unlocked from the start.

>The weakpoint system is very neat. The anachrotrons have turrets that shit out a million projectiles that you can destroy, you can aim a grenade into a caco's mouth to stun them for a fucking glory kill but it gets them off your back if you're opting out

>While it still has you getting locked out of previous sections of the map due to story, the game opens up fast travel near the end of every level so you can go back and collect the stuff you missed

>Weapon mods are more plentiful this time around, and more satisfying. The shotgun now has an auto mode(not the triple shot one) that acts like a really meaty chaingun)

>Cheats are secret collectibles. So far it's some shit like infinite lives but I hope it's more whacky stuff later.

What I dislike

>Higher focus on the chainsaw, at least with the opening level. The shotgun and assault rifle have very little ammo counts with even rarer ammo drops now(There are more health/ammo collectibles now than ammo from what I understand) meaning the chainsaw has to be used more often, which is why it has a lower cooldown. I'm not happy about this, because chainsaw still takes an hour to execute. At least it seems that some enemies like the anachrotrons are immune to it.

>This means glory kills are more needed since you save ammo with it. Why couldn't there be a melee weapon with the wristblade? Fuck knows. It's still the same limp punch as before, but you use it to break secret walls and whatnot.

>Of all the suit upgrades to have from the start, they give you the one that highlights secrets on the automap, and not the quick mod swap one since mods are very useful now.

>Also, secrets are giant yellow question marks that give off a noticeable yellow glow

>The weakpoint system is great, the stagger system is not. Instantkills are never a fun idea especially since so far all grenades arc in a way that the range you have to be from a caco is regular shotgun range.

>The lives system is shit. It just revives you instantly in the same spot you died. It might be neat for the difficulty setting that ends the game when you're out of lives but right now it simply makes fights retardedly easy

>Something about the mouse movement isn't right. It feels like there's smoothing but I can't find it in the options

Ambivalent about

>The music, it's still the same shit as before and I do not care for it.

>The story, seems to try to paint Doomguy as a biblical figure and all. He has a justice league styled Watchtower now, for some reason. Also they're still going with the LE EPIC RIP AND TEAR intro too.

I like it. I just hope it turns out to have more good than bad because I wouldn't mind this as an addition to good arena shootans like Serious Sam and Painkiller. At the very least I can say I like it a lot more than the assfest that was 2016. Pirate it and don't forget the command to skip the login after the initial one.

Again, why the fuck do companies use denuvo again?

>>16884990

so that certain people cant play it for free and pay shekels instead

>>16884198

I am two levels in, if you liked the last one you will like this one pretty much. The one thing that really bothers me are the forced jump puzzle sections.. they slow everything down way too much

Also most cacodemons just vanish if killed by traditional means, like they thought everyone would always execute them, but most likely a bug really

>>16884984

>>The possessed no longer make sounds

Thank fuck.

>Screams coming inches from my ears

>Turn around

>He's 10 meters away

>Multiply it by at least 8

Alright, second level

>You get the dash, it's excellent for combat, kind of mediocre for platforming because the cooldown put on it to avoid spamming it during combat kills the flow of platforming since if you use both dashes, you have to wait a fair bit until you can use dashes again AND you have to be on the ground

>Combat scenarios are infinitely better. You have timed combat sections that pretty much challenge you to kill enemies under specific conditions like two cacodemons over a giant pit with a couple of pole vaults, a bunch of lost souls, etc. There are also "slayer challenges" that are the arena fights on steroids with shittons of enemies and it's a blast.

>The justice league watchtower opens up and implies a lot of collectibles like that sword you see in the promotional materials, as well as a giant doomSLAYER™-styled mech. You also get to collect music from the actual doom to play in the background of the watchtower. It's cool.

I'm impressed, they put a fair amount of effort into this game unlike the previous one. Again anons, pirate it if you're interested.

>>16885104

I'll bite once I see a torrent from the fags I usually get it from.

Also some stuff I dislike

>Watchtower navigation requires objective markers on because it's not clear where you're supposed to be going most of the time

>Ice bomb is a bit too strong

>Those argent battery lantern looking things, they have the same animation on pickup and its unskippable for some reason

>The story is unintelligible at the moment and the codex entries are more confusing than anything at the moment. I'm still in the mindset of doomguy being a marine, not some member of the green lantern core

>That "mortally challenged" joke is repeated endlessly. You have UAC holograms(UAC is the badguy apparently) of cheery mall announcement types going "Don't worry your suffering will make for a better future" and what have you, in the mission select there's a broadcast of I guess a resistance fighting group referring to demons as "the challenged" and it's just silly.

>>16885113

I find it mostly alright, I'm not a fan of the sound and visual changes though.

>>16885113

Having seen people ripped to shit in real life, I find the volume of blood to be excessive, and the voice work kinda' bad. It's Smash TV level silliness, not something disturbingly (to those not sufficiently desensitized) violent.

>>16885119

>Having seen people ripped to shit in real life,

Mind explaining Anon?

>>16885125

Lived in a particularly bad niggerhood when I was a kid, because it was the cheapest rent in the city for good reason. There was always a show to see, from crackheads flipping out, to people being butchered for their meager possessions, to the unintentional witnesses of a massive drug exchange being shot to shit and run over. A human head makes an interesting sound when it's crushed. Glad the worst shit that happens where I live now is the older people dying off.

>>16885132

It's just a pet peeve when I see people (or demons, whatever) shot in shows, movies, or games, bleed a fucking fountain, and not act like people really do when they're shot. They most often scream and cry until they bleed out, and don't spray blood everywhere.

>>16885138

Damn sorry you had to live in niggerville Anon.

>>16885138

>scream and cry

sounds about right

>>16885138

Brewtal Dewm has so many different versions, some had buckets of blood and others very moderate amounts. The last time I tried it you were able to adjust how much blood there is. One of the criticisms of the mod has always been the annoying screams and cries from wounded imps. So it does actually do that right. It kills the atmosphere though and I don't like it.

>>16884754

>>16884752

>>16884761

Isn't the Doomguy a descendant of Blazkowiczs?

>>16885183

this sounds so retarded that it seems like something they can come up with

>>16884990

It's part of the humiliation play from findom fetish where you fuck over paying customers, hire a semi-literate pajeets for 1 dollar per 1500 words to shill denuvo on every forum related to your game because paying customers are a braindead niggercattle that exist to be milked and deserve utter contempt.

Now please preorder the game with season pass™ gold edition.

>>16885183

Consider supporting bethesda games to learn more about the Bethesda Game Universe™

>>16885183

>>16885188

I believe that's the case in the doom RPG?

>>16885183

Kinda? its the og Wolfenstein(not reboot cancer) though 1st reboot game is "ok rest is commie cancer" and from Doom RPG where it reference him being a Descented from BJ Blazkowiczs

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/B.J._Blazkowicz_(Doom)#Original_Backstory_.28from_original_Doom.27s_manual.29

>>16884187

>How in the fuck can a company fuck up everything this badly?

Honestly, there could be an enormous number of reasons they really sucked the big dick on this one. But I would reckon that the true reason is influenced heavily by ineptitude, from investors, to management, to the engineers. Bethesda games were never good enough to deserve the amount of revenue they generated, ergo Bethesda is a bloated carcass of a company that doesn't have high talent or good practices at any level of the organization.

>>16884198

It's a better game than Doom 2016, though I guess that has a subjective meaning to each person. It still makes itself very obvious that they cannot get out of the shadow of the original games (like every IP they own that they didn't create), but the enemies are so much better this time around that the gameplay is actually fun here and there. The game would be better if they released a patch that did nothing but disable 90% of the dialogue, and I cannot fathom why they keep insisting on trying to tell a story in Doom games. The game has no charm in any sense of the word.

I'd recommend it to people who still play 3d shooters and have nothing else on their plate, but not to people who exclusively enjoyed older shooters like the original Doom series, or games like Blake Stone: Aliens of Gold/Wolfenstein 3d. Since buying it gives you Denuvo, there is literally no reason to buy it as opposed to pirating it.

>>16885213

>there is literally no reason to buy it as opposed to pirating it.

huh so like any other game? Seriously though, the game is not that bad indeed, true about the dialogue also… I'd say try it and see if you like it

>>16885224

I could imagine it now. You enter a room, it gets locked down and you have to fight a whole eight nazi's at once while swinging from monkey bars and getting ammo and health back from doing glory kills because your guns only hold 10 rounds with a full mag and the gore nests would be replaced with pulling Jews from ovens to open a lockdown.

>>16884187

I don't think it's a blunder, they just want to harvest more personal information because >hey guys, bethesda.net™ store is DRM free, come check it out, leave your credit card information too!

>>16885233

Wolfenstein is a WOLFENSTEIN SLAYER: an unstoppable nazi killing machine fueled by philosemitism and antifascism, prophesied in the Talmud to build the third temple, destroy all nazis and protect Israel to finally bring about zionist utopia where every jew has 2000 goyslaves for his personal use.

>You can play as a revenant

Sweet

>It's only in small sections and you can't punch as a revenant

shit.

>>16885239

Honestly I would play this for shits and giggles. Far better plot than the SocJus virtue signal bullshit that was the recent games.

>>16885233

Cant wait for the OY VEY soundpack.

>>16884405

Bethesda's always been shit. The only good game they've made is Morrowind, and I'm convinced that was completely by accident.

>>16884405

Bethesda only published the game, ID are the developers.

So it's mostly the fault of Bethesda. Honestly if they weren't both owned by Zenimax, ID would be better off on their own.

>>16885213

>keep insisting on trying to tell a story in Doom games. The game has no charm in any sense of the word

It's trying to be funny and over the top at the same time, but the one thing that actually cracked a smile on my face is Doomguy's guitar and toy collection DOOM GUY COLLECTS FUCKING FUNKO POPS THE SOYBOY. Otherwise it just came off as stupidly smug and I wished it would stop.

I like the mobility heavy gameplay. I wish it'd knock it off with the glory kills and chainsaw but otherwise I'm really enjoying it. I wonder if Ghostrunner will be better or worse than Eternal, for its simplicity.

>>16885314

Yeah

https://mega.nz/#!gwlDWaZC!fOXq_S2PeZqbJxvucc24oHRKyCQvMOeOYaJihlF0-Nk

>>16885323

Very much agreed on the meathook. It's such a disappointment because I figured it would be a global movement ability but it's just on the SSG, and it's so slow. I thought it would be Attack on Titan zipping and instead it's kind of just an escalator. Also without the uranium rounds upgrade the SSG feels outright bad.

whoops not giving a (you) was an accident

>>16885334

It's not that, it's just something I found amusing like the big ass doomguy mecha. It comes with a laser guitar shaped like an axe and all.

>>16885344

Mods will-oh.

At least this will likely inspire movement ability based wads like (kind of, with the dashing) Demonsteele

>>16885344

Only published by Bethesda. I have no idea how much influence their board has on the development, but I'd wager little. So the chances of fixes still exist. The following days shall decide.

>>16885347

Game releases, end of expenses, beginning of earnings.

Game dlc means more expenses, biting into my earnings.

DLC is the exception to games.

Also I admit that "fixing stuff" means making it more like what I want with regards to movement and multiplayer, which may not be what the plebeian audience may demand.

>>16885351

You're talking about free DLC. You can monetize DLC, you know. That's why it's DLC instead of just patches.

>>16884168

Game's worse than doom 4. Who the fuck thought that color-coded enemies were a good idea, especially after the donte dmc game?

>>16885360

Wait, what color coded enemies are you talking about?

>>16885361

If you don't mind 3DM

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>>16885239

>>16885224

>>16885233

All the interviews point to Wolfenstein 3 being in development.

From what I can tell they were pretty self critical of the end result of 2, talking about both poor map, enemy design and plot presentation. Nothing has been said about the two side projects but hopefully they learned their lesson from those train wrecks as well.

I might be overly optimistic, I just thought the first one +stand alone was pretty neat and would like more.

>>16885388

Unless I hear that ID is making a Wolfenstein game and the Swedes are banned from the series, I'm not getting my hopes up.

>>16884405

>Becoming a trainwreck.

Bethesda is Centralia, Pennsylvania.

Except people never evacuated and kept tourism alive.

>>16885455

I agree that people don't think enough about how far the eyes need to go from where the action is when doing UI design. An awful lot of that is that UIs apparently look like garbage if everything isn't tucked away in the corners. Now, Valve had some great ideas about how to keep your eyes on the action in TF2: when something important happens, there's a big transparent decal that pops on the screen. By the time you register it almost subliminally, it zooms over to the corner of the screen for later reference. This is much, much better than an icon or text message way off on the side of the screen, even if it blinks or vibrates or something, and it's actually not intrusive at all because it's so transparent. The details of the thing aren't important at all, just its general shape. They really had a good idea with their focus on general shapes in TF2.

>>16885366

Well, I guess it should be fine since I'm using a clean exe. Will run shit through antivirus as per usual tho.

>>16885323

>shitty grappling hook

In my book they had one fucking job.

One fucking job.

God forbid we get good movement options like jetpacks.

>>16885504

Jetpacks are fucking stupid and boring. No momentum, it's basically just turning off gravity. Nah, swinging like Spiderman is the more fun movement method.

>>16885516

>Jetpacks are fucking stupid and boring

>No momentum, it's basically turning off gravity

What jetpacks have you been using Anon? Who hurt you?

Tribes series is almost nothing but momentum.

>>16885504

Oh yeah, we did get a revenant section. I haven't finished the game so I can't speak for if we get more, it was decent. Barebones but it did have a jetpack, its own dashing movement, missile shooting for attack and an aerial bombardment cooldown attack.

Instead of using this movement and to platform to the super shotgun, we instead fight a single room of enemies and the shotgun is lowered to the ground, whereupon you take it and kill the revenant drone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHIalb01ew&t=952s

I think the team behind it honestly loved their craft.

>>16885538

>Fallout is about go out, make alliances and gather resources

….What?

>>16885552

He is talking about Fallout 4, I guess.

>>16885552

Fallout is about shitty gore giblets, nukes and lolsorandumb violence

Weird how the first fallout game has the number 3 though.

>>16885538

>>16885562

The guy is a thickheaded faggot. He got so far up his own ass about 'the doom dance" which is his idealized version of playing Doom that it's the only way to play. Shoot guy for ten seconds, switch gun because you're out of ammo, shoot gun for ten seconds, switch because you're out of ammo, utilize enemy weakpoint system because if you don't they're impossible to kill, run out of ammo, switch weapon, run out of the last of your ammo, use chainsaw to get ammo. Repeat. That's the entire game now. Instead of a player balancing their weapon switching to scenarios where they would work the best, they're forced to constantly switch weapons and scramble because they were afraid of people playing it outside of their vision.

>>16885538

But the mancubus does exactly that in Doom 2016 as well, what the fuck.

>>16885600

This sounds retarded, weapons should be swapped because they fit a certain scenario/enemy type, not because ammo is so fucking scarce.

>>16885615

Do you expect devs to properly balance enemies and weapons so that each enemy has an optimal set of tools to dispatch without neither wasting too much time and ammo nor overkilling?

No, it's Current year+5 you will get 2 bullets for each weapon (upgradable by 0.05% per upgrade point spent), but if you gloryhole the enemies EPIC STYLE they'll shower you with extra bullet for every gloryhole takedown performed.

>>16885600

So are you saying he was sort of in the direction, but got caught up in his "doom dance". If you see his critique in the video about doom 2016, I think it would explain why things happen like they did. Personal I think they should have cut out alot of the power-ups (lazer sword, blood punch, flame thrower), and made the glory kills faster (or not do a canned animation). If anything they should have made the chainsaw glory kills mobile, meaning you can chainsaw an enemy while moving and not be stuck in one spot. If they loved their "glory kill" system so much, why didn't they do more to improve it. Instead of all these power-ups they could have given you the option to do more than just kill an enemy when he's flashing: throw him, quick kill. And they should have made the punch have a stamina bar in which you can stagger enemy's until the stamina is out, mainly you can punch your way out if your cornered. Also the chaingun being energy blast instead of hot lead was retarded. Also the boss fights sucked, who ever green-lit the Icon of sin fight should be fired.

>>16885615

>But the mancubus does exactly that in Doom 2016 as well, what the fuck.

Explain, manci in doom eternal is not as easy to git up close too.

>>16885627

git gud

>>16885643

>Explain, manci in doom eternal is not as easy to git up close too.

I just finished Doom 2016 like 30 minutes ago and had several occasions where manci would do the firing into ground thing when you got close. They might have upped the speed that they do it in Eternal but it was most definitely there in 2016. I played on Nightmare (bullshit difficulty, not worth it) and this made using SS on them not really viable.

>>16885627

I don't know what I expect anymore to be honest.

>>16885643

>git gud

What do you want me to git gud at you fucking retard? programming so I make an FPS that's not meant for lobotomized redittors with dopamine receptors burned out from masturbating to upboats and blacked porn that drool and cheer for pavlovian conditioning?

I did fuck up grammar though.

>Optimal set of tools to dispatch them with that neither wastes too much resources and time nor is a complete overkill.

Something like the damage types in C&C Renegade

>>16885321

Does the non-Denuvo exe work with the Steam version?

>>16884168

Make mod

Remove Glory Kills

Increase ammo capacity and pickup by 10x

Decrease enemy damage by 10x

No more health/ammo pickup from enemies, only environment, and remove their respawn

Game fixed?

>>16885710

the gay platforming sections are still there but it'd have been better yes, though on some enemies damage x-10 would be too much

>>16884984

>Pirate it and don't forget the command to skip the login after the initial one.

Doesn't it have a crack now specifically to remove the login shit?

>>16884984

After playing for a few hours I fully agree with you.

>>16885756

Stop being gay.

NUDOOM FOR NUMALES THAT LISTEN TO NUMETAL

>>16885756

>Doot memegame appeals to literal faggots

not surpising

>>16885691

yeah basically

>>16885730

Honestly I don't mind the platforming because it replaces the absolutely dismal "exploration" of the previous game. The only thing I'm not fully on board is is the pitted wall climbing, the animation and feel(The wall is like a square grid and the hazard hitboxes are poorly lined up with the visuals, not that it matters because you can tank the damage for like 1 health) of it are off, and it's much slower and less fun than jumping around in the air and dashing.

>>16885744

>Most of the other runes feel like gimmicks

Because they are. Especially the shit like mid-air slowmotion. These runes are touted as "customizing your playstyle" but instead it's pretty much slotting the two runes(Air control and Glory Kill Speed) that bypass stupid decisions. I'm very disappointed in it, and in the suit upgrades. Like before the only worthwhile upgrades are the weapon/mod switch ones and the dash refill ones, which all fit into one category.

>>16885887

Oh and even the mod swap upgrade is pointless because the speed increase is negligible but, the game has that same animation cancel as every other game where if you melee you cut out a good chunk of the animation.

>>16885922

>How different would the gameplay for nuDoom and Eternal be if the game was designed around the player having access to weapons and abilities from the start?

I suppose it would be overly overwhelming. Really at this point in the game I don't want any more mechanics(more weapons sure), just more enemy types.

>The mention of the slo-mo air attack just reminded of how F.E.A.R. gave the player the slow-motion ability from the start of the title

The slow motion air attack is pointless really. The only projectile attack you have at the moment is the slow moving rocket launcher which is much easier to lead than something like a disc launcher in tribes, for example. The only thing the game should have came with built in is the air control and glory kill runes.

>player "progressing" but none of that progression really does anything except give the player a false sense of betterment.

Pretty much. The only progression I'm feeling is getting better at the game and taking more risks like midair shots and more risky close quarters fights, and opting out the glory kills/chainsaw as much as possible.

>Doom seems to fail in being an engaging game because there's no reason to get the player to be creative with their tactics and actions or use their weapons to the fullest extent.

I suppose, but at that point why style in DMC either when you can (somehow, apparently DSP did it) treat the game as a TPS finish the game using only Ebony and Ivory, or play the latter DMCs on easy auto, or vanquish as a stock standard cover shooter. The game doesn't really penalize you for a playstyle, unlike say, Ys Memories of Celceta where the skill system implies you should be comboing various skills but you end up doing less damage overall than just spamming your strongest, or attempting to dodge and reposition attacks instead of spamming Flash Guard for the damage increase buff.

>Most other character action games have something testing the player like a scoring system, or special missions

The closest I can think of is the Arc Missions which are apparently remixed and more difficult versions of certain missions. I've yet to unlock one yet.

There's also the slayer gates which are the best time I've had with the game, really fun fights there and they're teasing Doom 64's unmaker(Unless I'm understanding this wrong) so there's an incentive for me.

>Snap maps

I can't even find that shitshow in eternal. I really worry for the game's replayablity and I doubt the perma death run out of lives mode would do that. Maybe they'll let you play as a revenant or a different character as a post game mode, no idea. I still haven't checked out Battlemode either unless it's the multiplayer mode.

The hub world feels like nothing more than a way to earn more upgrade points and secrets. Which is okay I guess, it could be more but I haven't played enough.

>Zelda clone etc

It's not that you need to return to the areas later, it's just that if you missed shit and got locked out of an area due to story bullshit, you can return to it instead of replaying the level all over again. Design could be better in cutting out the locking you out of the area all together, but it's an okay band-aid fix.

>DID BETHESDA LITERALLY JUST TURN DOOM INTO A FIRST-PERSON DARKSIDERS?!?

Kind of, yeah.

Overall Eternal isn't outright shit like 2016 is. It's not perfect either because I really wish I could entirely opt out of glory kills and the chainsaw, but it's quite a fun game. The problems is that it's a AAA game and it's designed with AAA sensibilities in mind. Neat, there's a shitton of customization options, but the game is online so you need to level up to gain customization options. Why?

Neat, exploring these locations is fun and enjoyable but every time I open up the automap to readjust myself there are secrets revealed on it and the path to the secrets for whatever reason.

Neat, I just picked up this new gadget, time to check it out. Oh, the game needs interrupt me by having a tutorial prompt plus a transport into Demon VR so I can try it out instead of letting me use it in a fight organically.

Neat, there are platforming challenges and some secret combat encounters require you to both platform and fight at the same time. Oh, platforming is very easy, you can tank the damage of the hazards no issue(especially when you can replenish health with a glory kill easily) and the simultaneous platforming/combat is (so far) rare, I've only seen it twice in the first timed encounter with the caco demons over a pit and the electrified puddle location.

The game's getting there. It's just shackled by being AAA I guess.

Credit where it's due I like how Bethesda era iD supports vulkan and well optimized games. I'm still not giving Bethesda money but it's nice seeing a AAA dev give a shit.

>>16885213

How's the optimization? I don't like the look of those system requirements.

>>16885918

>DID BETHESDA LITERALLY JUST TURN DOOM INTO A FIRST-PERSON DARKSIDERS?!?

That's not wholly a bad thing.

>>16885918

tangentally related: Is darksiders genesis okay enough to play or is it shit?

>>16885946

Did you like Darksiders 1-3 or do you like games similar to Daiblo?

>>16885948

Never played any of them, have played hades though

>>16885950

I liked it but then again I'm a fan of the series but I'll do you a solid and leave this magnet link if you want to give it a go. magnet:?xt=urn:btih:D1D6FB1414A6E6A9B1DFFD79F76B225E813798A0

I'm thinking, what if instead of glory kills, staggered enemies can be punched to be launched as a projectile(similar to the cueball enemies, those zombies with the gas canisters sticking out of them) into other enemies or environmental hazards for large damage, and do it enough and the blood punch fills up, the blood punch is the shockwave punch it currently is, but it also spawns health pickups?

That way healing isn't as readily available as it currently is, and there wouldn't be the need for a canned animation to interrupt gameplay.

>>16885963

I have thought about that and it would be way better, but could extend it even more into

>punch the head, beheads the head flying off really fucking fast with good range, but can't hit as many

>if you glory kill the torso, you push the entire demon and can kill more but has less range

>glory kill the arms, you can swing around etc.

>idea is that each body part or location serves different types of utility behind the glory kill

>>16885956

i think the shit ammo caps + chainsaw giving you ammo of all kinds equally was made to make sure players use whole arsenal

>>16885981

I've been having trouble putting how I feel about the game into words, but I think I have it. I think that the devs saw videos of people doing 'high level play' in 2016 and older arena shooters in general, quake 3 UT etc, and they thought that it would be really fun if they could have people do that. Switching through a big ass arsenal is fun in arena shooters, adjusting between your close range, long range, hitscan, projectile, and indirect damage weapons like rocket or grenade launchers is very satisfying because you're playing optimally and choosing the right weapon for the job.

But when you want to force that all you end up doing is herding your players like a bunch of niggercattle and try and force the fun of high level play. It isn't genuine, if you watch any of the interviews they're full of them saying things like 'we really want the encourage the players to X' 'this will train the players to do Y' 'if you don't do Z you're going to have a hard time so you'll learn to start doing it.' It's just artificially having you cycle weapons and as a consequence of that you have to constantly ride the fucking chainsaw which means you're going to end up running away from enemies with your dick in your hand until you find a zombie, and along those lines every time one of the buff totems is around it immediately fucks with the flow of the fight because there is no reason to kill any of the demons until you deactivate the buff totem so there is a point to fighting them. I don't understand why the fuck they put that in the game when the Archvile serves the exact same purpose but dealing with an Archvile is infinitely more engaging than running around like a retard trying to find a button to flip while you're getting attacked from all sides.

Question: Can a doom game work with vertical aiming?

>>16884990

>make game

>investors ask what about piracy

>investors talk about this new fangled denovu

>PUT THIS IN OR WE PULL MONY

ok

>>16886004

You fucking retarded luddite.

>>16885995

The more I look at this game the less I understand what the fuck they were trying to make. It's such a mix of nu-game design then with all the classic, arcadey things from arena shooters plastered on to it. At least not every encounter is a dumb killbox this time around but everything else seems worse, especially the forced weapon switching.

Let this canned shit die, don't post in the next still thread at all

>>16884984

>Pirate it and don't forget the command to skip the login after the initial one.

Could you help a nigger out?

>>16886076

supposedly it's

+com_skipSignInManager 1

as a launch option

>>16885601

I don't expect much in the way of dynamic enemy reactions to damage from a game made to fit (one episode) on a single floppy disk, but you're being a pedantic faggot.

>>16885756

>pedantic

Do you even know what that word means?

enjoy your doom, bro

>>16886100

Yes, it's not close to original Doom but that doesn't mean it has no right existing. It's an alright game.

Also there's a cheat code in the game that disables enemy loot drops. I wanna see an anon go through Nightmare with that on. Not sure if you can enable cheats on ultra nightmare.

>>16886131

It's a shit Doom game, but it is an alright game. That's the problem. Other contemporary games do a better job of being Doom than Doom itself.

>>16886100

>>16886137

DUSK is based on Quake though, not Doom. What are you talking about?

>>16886104

I think you replied to the wrong person

>>16886108

>>16886149

>>16886151

How the fuck do normalfags like this shit?

>>16886151

its Bethesda's MO: Have someone else do it. Why do you they supported modding as long as they did?

>>16886157

>think they*

help I've become retarded

>>16884259

I was slightly optimistic about it when I found out they were doing away with the arena focus, but the level design of the first two that I've seen is still worrisome. No secret weapons at all, it seems. And the wall climbing shit looks extremely jarring and unrefined. The movement reminds me of Unreal somewhat since they added dodge's. But yeah, I think they went overboard on the platforming. At least now it'll be easy to "try" before you "buy."

>>16886155

Pete hines said rip and tear also DOOT xD reventant with trumpets.

Bethesda fans are basically a cult with the following structure

Bethesda = god

Pete Hines/Todd Howard = prophets

Community managers on forums and reddit = high clergy

redittors = semi "enlightened" masses that absorb the normalfag cattle

>>16886146

Even Quake and all its derivations are closer to Doom than Doom Eternal is to its original.

this >>16886104 was meant for >>16886097

>>16886151

Don't know if it makes it better or worse, but they said the same thing in the 2016.

>>16886149

>This literally is Halo 2.

Now that is a blatant lie.

>>16886162

How the fuck does Bethesda have any more fans after all the shit they've royally fucked up in the past three years? No, seriously, show me this theoretical Bethesda fan, because I sure haven't seen a single one for years.

Then again, I haven't looked.

>>16886151

That's not the worst part.

Doomguy literally says in an angry voice in a flashback

"RIP…. and TEAR"

>>16885323

Yeah, the "gimmickyness" or "rock paper scissors" feeling of the new Doom games is what gets me also. There is a clear optimal strategy for everything and if you're not doing that you're objectively playing the game wrong. I got all this just from watching uncommentated gameplay videos.

>you could kill the cacodemon with anything

<but if you don't use the sticky bomb launcher which costs a paltry 1 shotgun shell to shoot it while it has its mouth open and instantly glory kill it you waste a ton of ammo, of which you can only carry 16 shells as opposed to 50 in Doom classic

>if you aren't flaming, glory killing or chain sawing zombies you're wrong because the game explicitly tells you they're for farming

>cool abilities like the shotguns full auto mode are dubiously useful because it uses all your fucking ammo and it's almost impossible to get the enemy in stagger mode due to the extreme DPS, denying you resources

And the game is extremely explicit with all of this. They practically included a strategy guide in the in-game tutorials. No feeling of accomplishment for figuring things out allowed.

>>16886149

>>16886168

I actually don't get the comparisons with Halo at all. Aside from the AI sidekick I guess? They are about as far from each other as two games in the same genre can get.

>Doom

<Focus on movement and air dashing

<You are the only one taking care of business and it stays that way

<Can carry all the weapons in the game, weapon rotation is central to the combat

<Big platforming focus as well

>Halo

<You move slow as dog shit, which is what the vehicles are for

<You can only carry two guns, combat focuses on target priority and precise aim

<You are a cog in a military machine and this is constantly reinforced with AI allies and reinforcements/gear drops from the sky. Solo moments are reserved for dramatic points in the story

>>16884635

Soytendo faggots are sucking this consolenigger redditshit game dry you cuckchan nigger, stay in your shithole.

>>16886177

It's the shitty powerarmour

<You are a cog in a military machine and this is constantly reinforced with AI allies and reinforcements/gear drops from the sky

Maybe in the first one, 2 and 3 are make MC into a fucking God.

>>16886179

I'd disagree, 2 actually ups the ante for Marine support. There were no air dropped rocket launchers or sniper rifles in 1.

>>16886177

><Can carry all the weapons in the game, weapon rotation is central to the combat

Yeah because the guns have amazing ammo pool of 5 shots each.

>>16886177

I was actually talking about the story, which I updated to the conclusions made here: >>16886173

>Watching it further, it's a mis-mash of the Halo trilogy, the Bioshock trilogy, and the Darksiders series.

In regards to the gameplay, basing it off of the comments made by others Anons, Bethesda's Doom games is just a first-person character action game, specifically Darksiders, with the explanation laying that all out here: >>16885922

>>16886149

>>16886177

>I actually don't get the comparisons with Halo at all.

>I thought you guys were being exaggerative when you said that Doom became Halo.

when it comes to gameplay NuDoom has more in common with Halo 5, to the point the Mutiplayer was made by guys who actually did work on Halo 5.

Yet Halo fans are able to just straight up say that shit like the Spartan charge, Air Drop, and Dash are all things that distract from what the core of Halo is, and makes it hardly even a Halo game anymore. And that is deemed okay by the people because Bungie left so that makes it easy to understand the divide it's easy to shit on 343, for not being Bungie, rather then actually understanding the problem.

Yet when you point out how NuDoom isn't all that much like actual Classic Doom your basically just called an old man who doesn't understand the games of today. The Space between Doom 1&2 to Doom 2016 is so large, people Don't consider that it actually did still do good things that aren't being done today. Since you can't just describe Weapon/Enemy priority and pain flinch chances to an idiot.

>>16886188

Well, to be quite honest, you had the Covenant breaking down into a civil war between those loyal to the Prophets and those loyal to the Elites, you had Cortana running around the city's computer system, then you had the marines that were in the prison, and the Flood showing up later on. And, that's on top of the fact that, despite barely surviving the first game, the Covenant literally saw MC as the devil incarnate.

>>16886185

>when it comes to gameplay NuDoom has more in common with Halo 5

This I would agree with, Halo 5 is much closer than Halo in general. I tend to believe it is the lack of resource management that makes nuDoom shitty.

Exploration is discouraged because you should be maintaining all your resources during fights. Your ammo capacity is shit so there is no reason to explore there because you can't build up a stock of ammo that lasts for more than a single fucking encounter. The fucking Soulsphere in the newest one is nearly useless except probably on the hardest difficulties. Health bonuses make a return, but only give you 10 health and it doesn't overheal you anymore, basically turning them into reskinned stimpacks. They had to come up with more reasons to explore and reused the gore nests for "secret encounters" that give you more RPG points to spend. There is so much nostalgia bait in Eternal, which is what I was worried about - that it was simply bait and they didn't actually make the game more old school in design.

They're too scared to do something like take all your guns away every 10 levels which allows the level designers to work with slightly more control and allows them to put secret weapons in the game which are exciting. The RPG points feel extra hollow and meaningless to me because the DOOOOM SLAAAYEEER can't even carry half the shotgun shells he could carry back when he was a disgraced MP officer at the wrong place at the wrong time. They kneecapped themselves severely with the awful story, but focus groups exhibit an affinity for DEEP LORE so slap it on.

>>16886184

>Character action game

That is very appropriate given the RPG elements and the constant acquisition of runes and shit. Never quite thought of it that way.

>>16886193

is that the potion seller?

>>16886172

Very on-point. Even with ammo capacity maxed (the only way to even enjoy Doom 2016), you're still given a very meager ammo count. The cacodemon problem is probably the most egregious, it's replicated for the cyber mancubus which needs a charged blood punch to make it more vulnerable to attacks, so go glorykill a zombie to charge it, then you can go out against it.

>>16886176

The levels open up much more later on., I can't really fault the level design. But Bethesda really loves to dripfeed its content.

>>16886196

Anon please

>>16886200

No

>>16886193

Is that the guy from "oh my" tranny porn reaction webm?

>>16886155

Normalfags literally have no standards or will of their own, they just buy what they are told to. That is why marketing is so powerful. The niggercattle don't think for themselves, they see commercials/ads and just consume without any thought behind their actions.

>>16886131

>but that doesn't mean it has no right existing

it really does

I'm not a fan of the totems to be honest. Just seems like a shittier version of OG doom's Archie, except it spawns demons out of thin air and it doesn't even attack you.

Also like doom 2016 this game ended up making me replay a game I dropped, Yakuza 0(in 2016's case it was Overload), and loving the shit out of it. So at least it has that going for it.

Really all I ask for is an AA, or even an indie version of this game. It would be great. Otherwise it's good. 5.5, 6 I guess.

>>16886100

Is Wrath even out yet? And Dusk I'd say is more Quake than Doom.

With all that platforming and the alien worlds it looks like they tried copying the Metroid Prime games, the only difference that Doomguy can't morph into a ball.

>>16886325

Because F.E.A.R is a horror series that had been going on for years, and if I remember right the final boss actually makes sense and ties up a few things, where Doom Eternal literally just plops him down without any sort of history or weight behind it.

>earth could be destroyed!

Humanity is practically genocided, what does Earth matter?

>he's literally sin incarnate!

And I don't know nor care if that means anything.

>look, he's destroying the city!

It's already destroyed. It literally looks like an earthquake happened.

At least in the first game there was buildup because you were chasing down that cult bitch. The presumed final boss is the Makyr lady, but her fight was simple, quick and annoying as can be, because all you did was play 'the floor is lava' while shooting her.

>>16886337

I hate to say it, but I'd actually be happier if they out and admitted they were doing something like this. For one, I liked Metroid Prime. For another, it'd let me say that this isn't even trying to be like traditional Doom and is instead some new exploration/adventure game with a Doom skin on it.

>>16886290

Yea, combat is an overgrown "Hit the square peg into the square hole." It really makes the game feel a lot shittier especially because they give you so little ammo.

How can a AAA game be more like og doom in your opinions? What 3d fps best illustrate what doom eternal should have been?

Literally all doom was:

>FPS

>No up/down look (auto aim)

>non-linear

>demons could potentially travel the whole map just like you (weren't confined into arenas)

>innovations were almost done strictly all level design / enemy placement / enemy type more so than movement, guns, mechanics.

>Skill level was set by (maneuverability, enemy/projectiles, environment/terrain, weapon/power up/secret management, perscion)

>There was no jump, yet movement around the environment was a big skill ceiling and was fun to used. You were not only really fast, but your key movement mechanics: look, run, strafe, prompt were not separate like doom eternals (climb, dash, jump, double jump, run etc.) which the levels in both gamers were built around on, this give the smooth game play.

>Multiplayer was big, fast, and smooth. It had a immediate feedback loop, due to the speed and quickness of the death. Also battle royale. To immediately get into the action and half way across the map after spawning is awesome

>>16886368

Explain / List those predetermined chain of actions

After playing it more and more this Anon's point of it being

>>16885922

>HOLD THE FUCK UP!!!

>DID BETHESDA LITERALLY JUST TURN DOOM INTO A FIRST-PERSON DARKSIDERS?!?

Is not wrong and as it really is a FPS version of Darksiders, but the question I have to ask is that a bad thing?

>>16886381

Not unless you hate fun.

>>16885922

>HOLD THE FUCK UP!!!

>DID BETHESDA LITERALLY JUST TURN DOOM INTO A FIRST-PERSON DARKSIDERS?!?

it all makes sense now

>>16886377

>How can a AAA game be more like og doom in your opinions?

Quake but with Blood-tier level design, a colour palette that's not just brown, interesting weapons and a soundtrack that's not just noise.

>>16886403

>Quake

Do you mean the original quake?

>>16886172

>reach the bosses before 2nd priest

>game INSTANTLY tells you break shield with Plasma Rifle

>die a few times getting movement rhythm right b/c nightmare mode

>game offers to start you with max armor with no penalty whatsoever

Of course, redditfags still suck dick and say "oh just turn off tutorials," which isn't the point. I don't mind quick guides here and there but it's pretty clear this game was made for retarded niggers and game journo faggots to feel a sense of accomplishment in any form.

>>16886407

Is there a reboot Quake?

>>16886368

>It sure does look awesome if your primary financial strategy is being streamer bait.

It looks awesome the same way newer fighting games "look awesome", which parallels exactly with your comment. With a lot of newer fighting games, they're based around being flashy and combo heavy so as to give newer players the misconception that they're actually "good" at the games. Meanwhile, with a lot of older fighting games, they hold no reservations about beating the living shit out of the player if you make a mistake (Which can prove to be fatal as older games are much less forgiving with matches ending within 10 second). And, all the "flashy moves" being just bonuses for the character rather than a requirement like they are in newer games.

>>16886381

>but the question I have to ask is that a bad thing?

Depends on the reason your asking:

<Is it a bad thing Bethesda made a first-person character action game?

The answer to that question is no, as there are several Anons who do talk about how there is some good gameplay elements in the title and it is well made in some respects. However'…

<Is it a bad thing Bethesda made Doom into a first-person character action game?

To which, the answer is yes. Boiling down all of id's Doom games (With the exception of Doom 3), what you get is a first-person twin-stick shooter (Or, a first-person shmup), which is something NO ONE seems to get. The gameplay of the title, and the weapons, don't change one bit in the several dozens level you play through, with each level testing the might of the player's skill and grasp of the game's mechanics. Nothing changes from the first episode to the last. Sure, you may get some "upgrades", but the game is still geared towards the player having the starting weapons. Meanwhile, with Bethesda's Doom, the game is geared towards having the player getting items that they can use to upgrade their weapons and abilities. Meaning that there actually is a drastic change in the way the game is played from the beginning to the end, with the beginning geared towards the player having no abilities, and the end geared towards the player having some abilities. And, that's on top of the previous criticisms that there really is ZERO reason to have the game designed like this, except to give the player a false sense of "betterment".

>>16886009

I don't know man, part of the original experience was the horizontal aiming. Just because you can add vertical doesn't mean you should.

>>16885995

A good chunk of players feel the same but wont admit it. The ammo solution is there but nobody likes having to find a rhythm and we shouldn't have to.

>>16886416

>only horizontal aiming

I don't know about that. Even with the old doom I can't play modded shit unless I can force full freedom of aiming.

>>16886439

Problem with nuDoom 2 is that it aint consistent, at all. The further you are in the game the more you'll notice it. It's a fucking mess, at least nuDoom was consistently crafted.

You're also forced to shoot enemies weak points with a forced gun and then kill them. Where as with nuDoom one you could just kill them even if it took a bit longer.

It's just a shitty version of Quake 2 or 3 or unReal at this point.

>>16886415

I'm torn because unlike nuDoom 2016 I'm actually having fun but on the other hand this isn't really a Doom game it's a fun Darksiders FPS game but it's not a Doom game.

>>16886451

I feel like you had a team who gave a shit and wanted to make a new IP but was forced to make a Doom game, the result is a game that has no real clue of what it wants to be.

>play doom 2016

>it's shit

>install "Weapons Mod for Doom" that turns the gameplay into the classic doom style

>have fun

Just wanted to give the mod some coverage since it made nudoom playable for me. Too bad nothing can mod out the platforming in Doom Eternal.

>>16884580

>Well, if it gives you a cracked version of the EXE you need to play the game, and with better performance to boot, that's probably a good idea

Does anyone know if the Steam exe is smaller than the Bethesda one?

>>16886455

>I feel like you had a team who gave a shit and wanted to make a new IP but was forced to make a Doom game, the result is a game that has no real clue of what it wants to be.

>>16886458

>If you looked at any of the trailers and went in expecting to find Doom well tough.

The real issue here is you had a Team that Couldn't make a Doom game, yet were still being paid to make something called Doom.

just look at When (Doom 4) was still in the Call of Doom phase. they were making a CoD game but calling it Doom, the scrapped that when Brutal Doom got Popular, beacuse they went "OH THAT IS WHAT DOOM IS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE" Despite the fact Brtual Doom Isn't what Doom is, it's just yet another mod.

You have these guys trying to make the Most DOOM LIKE DOOM GAME That's Gamey and shit. but their not actually trying to understand what makes the Doom 1 and 2 Stand the test of time.

It doesn't matter if the game actually Plays like a Doom game, only that it Looks like what people think Doom is, since the people playing NuDoom aren't actually fans of Doom.

Played it. Some complaints I would give is that its too wave based. There are some platforming sections to break up the action but I feel it's not enough. Why couldn't they have some sections where it's just enemies roaming around that you skip if you want between these locked down wave sections? Going from one wave to another felt too horde mode like. Didn't like how restrictive getting certain ammo and armor is by how you kill or attack an enemy. Those could certainly be in place but I think all enemies should have some percentage, even if low of giving ammo or shield instead of just relying on chainsaw and flamethrower to get them. You blast through the ammo quickly even from the ones you pick-up and could sometimes get into a bad match-up with certain enemies where that weapon would be useful against if you had the ammo, even if you had to fight the other minions to get more of it.

Another minor complaint would be boss build-up. Obvious example would be the Doom Hunter. You go through the level seeing this boss being build and finally face him at the end but immediately after you go down the hole you fight 2 of the same boss you just fought before at the same time. I know that RPGs have reused bosses and made them regular enemies with a different color later but this game didn't even wait 10 seconds before doing that to you which kind-of ruins that previous build-up. Would've made more sense to see them again later and how easy it would be to handle them once you've gained more weapons and powers to deal with them instead of shortly after your first encounter.

>>16886463

>>16886464

Say what you will but it doesn't change the fact that I just completely ignored weak points halfway through the game and chainsaw aside I played nothing like what >>16886410 is describing and was better off for it.

And yeah, not EVERY SINGLE WEAPON is good FOR EVERY SINGLE ENEMY but it isn't the opposite either. It's not one good weapon per enemy or two for that matter.

As I said the real issue stems from the low ammo count and being forced to chainsaw. Probably because why everything feels like a bulletsponge

I watched half the cutscenes with some gameplay and it looks boring and messy. It seems like its ideas don't mesh internally and also seems at odds with the first game on certain points. It seems like a different studio made it.

The fonts are ugly and all the UIs feel fake and shitty, with no connection to the previous title. That includes game UI and ingame usage as well (screens, etc.). Some things look like they're trying to be ironically 90's looking in palette and design and some things just look like a mediocre 00's era EA UI job where noone really cared and nothing feels well crafted.

The plot looks incomprehensible, it's not clear why the UAC did what they did in the first half of the game, the public messages are too on the nose and annoying and tbh the mortally challenged stuff just isn't resonating. It's like the unitology church in DS2 if written without subtlety, but also the world apparently? The areas don't feel real or varied in spite of the expressed interest in new locations. It seems they picked the most compelling visuals of crumbling sky scrapers for trailers and everything else looks like nothing. It also feels like The Last Jedi in that plot threads from the last game are trashed; where Hayden is now basically dead with no primer and there's a bunch of un-hinted-at bullshit like Hell Priests that just appear which we didn't have before. Also, the text files are constantly jerking off how good doomguy is and how powerful and plentiful the demons are but there's still not that many.

Lastly it seems like just about everything is just an excuse to get in the way and impede the player's unstoppable might, and there's a mountain of busywork.

Would say 5/10 feels like a bad movie sequel to a decent first film.

>>16886490

>it seems like just about everything is just an excuse to get in the way and impede the player's unstoppable might

That's the only thing that matters to sell the game to people.

The "DOOMSLAYER" is a huge meme character now. The game only exists to hype up the Doomslayer, and people play the game so they can feel like an "unstoppable badass"

The thing is that there is a complete misunderstanding of what actually makes someone feel badass when playing a game. If the focus is only on making the main character and the player feel "Badass", then the only ones being impressed are going to be the easily impressed.

but if your someone who Actually "Plays Video games" then you'll know that You actually need to "Be challenged" if you actually want the satisfaction of overcoming a challenge. All the "You are the Doomslayer the most badass coolest kill dude ever" is overcompensating, since the gameplay itself apparently can't convey that on it's own.

>>16886490

>The plot looks incomprehensible

It really is so dumb. They even retconned where spectres come from for some reason. In 2016 they're an escaped UAC experiment, in Eternal it's about warlocks or some dumb shit. I've been watching the cutscenes and reading the dialogues but I honestly have no fucking clue what's going on. At least the Sentinel shit kinda made sense in 2016, now it's just retarded. Also

<RIP AND TEAR

Fuck you Id, I doubt more than 10% of your dev team even played the original Doom games you fucking faggots.

>>16886504

Yeah that's the other thing. I generally felt that Shadow Warrior 2 had bouncing between enemies in a horde mixing melee and gunplay far more effectively than this and never got why ID were so up themselves about it.

>>16886439

>You're still forced to run around like a madman.

how is this a bad thing?

>>16886518

In Classic Doom you were given Speed sure, but that speed was just another tool you had, you could run to the other side of a room if that was a good tactical decision, based on the enemies you were fighting.

NuDoom doesn't make your Speed a singular tactic you can use. It's the only Tactic. Enemies aren't around the level for you to deal with at your discretion, they are in arena's and they will spawn where ever you aren't looking, so it's not a matter of Standing still being a bad Tactic. Standing Still literally just kills you since it's not possible to know if you have killed all the enemies behind you since they can just appear out of thin air.

>>16886504

>Fuck you Id, I doubt more than 10% of your dev team even played the original Doom games you fucking faggots.

Did you? Did any of you still play vanilla doom (and not the brutal doom shit)?

>this game isn't doom

I am not defending the game as not being not shit, but people saying that it's "not doom" are just complaining to complain and they don't know what their talking about for they never provide any supporting points. The REAL reason it doesn't feel like a doom game is b/c of what >>16886494 said: it's too messy and complex and not straight to the point simple. What AAA fps has gotten that down? Has any?

Furthermore why is it only here that I find genuine criticism of the game? Is there any genuine game reviewers?

>>16886538

>people saying that it's "not doom" are just complaining to complain and they don't know what their talking about for they never provide any supporting points

>>16886415

<Boiling down all of id's Doom games (With the exception of Doom 3), what you get is a first-person twin-stick shooter (Or, a first-person shmup), which is something NO ONE seems to get. The gameplay of the title, and the weapons, don't change one bit in the several dozens level you play through, with each level testing the might of the player's skill and grasp of the game's mechanics. Nothing changes from the first episode to the last. Sure, you may get some "upgrades", but the game is still geared towards the player having the starting weapons. Meanwhile, with Bethesda's Doom, the game is geared towards having the player getting items that they can use to upgrade their weapons and abilities. Meaning that there actually is a drastic change in the way the game is played from the beginning to the end, with the beginning geared towards the player having no abilities, and the end geared towards the player having some abilities. And, that's on top of the previous criticisms that there really is ZERO reason to have the game designed like this, except to give the player a false sense of "betterment".

>Furthermore why is it only here that I find genuine criticism of the game?

Because no one here is under a gag-order or being sponsored.

>Is there any genuine game reviewers?

Christ Centered Gaming, ironically, is the first to come to mind.

>>16886461

What all does that mod do? Maybe I'll give it another shot if it fixes a lot of the bullshit

>>16886622

That's not a MOD. That's a WAD

>>16886622

>off-center crosshair

but why

>>16886637

Because he's right-handed.

>>16886632

I get the feeling that's either futa or prostate stimulation

>>16886637

whole video was cut off, didn't check my settings before recording

>>16886634

my bad

>>16886606

>>16886622

>>16886634

Yes this anon here >>16886461 is implying he found a Mod of NuDoom that made the gameplay better. not a Mod for DOOM that gives you NuDoom weapons, The base of Classic Doom works so well you can add pretty much any set of weapons to it, and it will work.

I'm only cuious about the NuDoom mod due to the fact I was under the impression that NuDoom didn't get very many mods due to Snapmap replacing mods, rather then there just being fucking Mod Support. in a DOOM game.

>>16886641

If there's one thing I've learned on /v/, it's that if it's cropped it's gay.

There's a goofy decorking sound when I kill through headshot.

Oops. I forgot some other complaints about the game. Every once in a while I seem to forget how far the doom slayer can jump. Things seem so far to reach at times until you have to remember that you get a momentum boost once you launch off a wall or the added jumping options you get like double jump or dash. Doesn't happen often but it keeps popping up every once-in-a-while that it seems bothersome. Might be the problem with first-person platforming but I never had this occur while playing Mirror's Edge (1st game, not the reboot). That game told me visually how fast I'm running and if something was possible to reach something, barring some glitchiness that can happen.

Being that it has a story focus, I think the pop-ups for enemies that tells you how to deal with them is mismatched. For a fast-paced game, I would think they'd gone with a GTA approach and just have a message tell you what to do and not pause the game to tell you what to do. Even better is if they weaved dialogue to hint at what you should do or how dangerous is something and not have the developer say it in plain text before the battle. Could be a random NPC or AI hologram that does that job. Very minor stuff but I think they could've done better in these areas.

Also, I guess nobody notice this but there is a totalbiscuit reference in the game. Should be in the super gore nest along some wall in one of the big open areas. I wouldn't have know it was a reference until somebody told me. It have some guy or seat with a bucket on it (it was hard to see on my end) with a monitor that says "Slay Cancer". Never really cared about his content since it was the same lazy barely-edited gameplay while talking over it review that other youtubers have done. The only other thing I know about him was that he told someone to get cancer and he died because of it which is ironic. Seems like an overblown youtuber like Roger Ebert is to film reviews to me.

Oh also theres invisible walls that at one point prevents you from reaching a platform despite being in range. Infuriating is a very mild descriptor.

>>16886732

yeah, I've died trying to jump into ledges that were there just for display.

pt. 3

>>16886769

>story line

most of it is given in the info dump level as collectible lore pages and other scraps you collect.

Doom guy fights demons in hell so much he eventually get spat out into argent dnur. He is found by these crusader looking dudes and is taken to the arena where he communicates by shouting out "rip and tear kill demons", It's basically fight club with all the shirtless men you can ogle but don't kill because that's a no no. He's so badass that the people who are now the hell priests start looking a doom guys delicious ass while licking their lips, so do the makyrs who are a group of ancient ayylmaos that the people worship as gods. Demons start pouring in because a hell priest touched him self or something, doom guy is the only one that has a lot of experience fighting them. Eventually he gets to fight and becomes somewhat famous for his fighting prowess. Shit starts getting real because the night sentinels are getting their asses kicked enough that eventually they promote doom guy to their level and this is special because arena prisoners only get to fight as the regular soldiers and doom guy is the only one in history to rise above to that level. At first the NS don't much care for him but eventually they get along and people recognize his ability especially after a big ass demon attacks the place and doom guy kills it with a glowey crucible sword after a rogue makyr gives doom guy a power up and the praetor armor. Makyrs figure out that they can use hell energy combined with the wraiths energy (those things in 2016) to make argent energy and so they use it to make glowey spears and swords that kill more good. But hell energy is made by torturing peoples souls, but they need more energy so the makyrs snatch some people away into hell and create a soul torture factory using SLAVE LABOR. They create more energy and eventually things start to get better for argent dnur. Hell energy corrupts though and the priests become the hell priests along with regular people. Some in the NS don't like argent energy and try to stay off it, others keep on keeping on. The NS find out about the makyrs true motives and the torture factory and try to bring it up, this starts to cause a split in the NS. The good NS plan an attack on the factory with the help of a hell priest who claims to be able to make a slip gate to the factory. It's actually a trap and the NS get scattered in hell because the betrayer snitched when he tried to make a deal to bring his son back who then becomes the icon of sin. Doom guy and the NS are trapped in hell battling demons the icon of sin gets killed by doom guy. Doom guy gets entombed and 2016 starts. Sam hayden returns to earth and brings a bunch of hell fighting technology to the people of earth. Eternal starts with a massive fucking gap of no info. Doom guy kills a hell priest to stop the hell invasion which causes the others to hide using some kind of scrambler. Doom guy goes to hell to find a holy gps that the betrayer has. The betrayer is a mopey faggot and just gives it to him (that's it for the betrayer no death no redemption thing just sad brains and sitting in a hell cave). Doom guy open up his holy gps app on the fortress of doom computer and finds out that a hell priest is in the arctic and then proceeds to kill him. The head makyr says fuck it and hides the last hell priest someplace he'll never look and now doom guy needs to find the robot faggot sam hayden. Doom guy finds a half dead sam hayden (fucking how) and installs him on to his fortress and then uses him to find the last hell priest. The last hell priest is on argent dnur of all places and then goes to the arena to kill him which is a no no because killing a member of the ascended class means a death sentence and is now banned from that gay place. The head makyr says fuck you and tries to revive the icon of sin to attack earth. Doom guy then needs to kill the makyrs but has to destroy the torture factory first because it has the only portal feeding energy to their home world which is dying. Doom guy stabs a heart that the makyrs were trying to use to control the icon of sin which then gets loose and fucks off to earth anyway. Doom guy kills the head makyr then heads to earth to kill the icon of sin. Doom guy kills the icon of sin and you are a winner you are so cool. didju rike it.

I wanted fast paced shooting, moving, bouncing, and lots of ammo I should have played quake 1 or dusk instead

sorry for the wall of text

>>16886765

Yeah, the game does seem to try to force you to use specific ways to kill specific enemies. I have to use the stupid chainsaw all the time because I run out of ammo.

>>16886769

>doom guys own GAMER room complete with funko pop looking collectible wall of toys and comics

Aww, fuck.

>>16886770

No, thank you for the wall of text. This game puts me off every time a cutscene happens. I don't know if I will even want to finish it at this point. I also thought that the beginning was a glimpse of the final part of the game. Where did the space castle come from? How did doomguy get free? Now I know there are no answers, only awful backstory.

Anon, tell me at least what does Sam Hayden say? It might be the only piece of story continuation from nudoom 1.

>>16886802

>I also thought that the beginning was a glimpse of the final part of the game. Where did the space castle come from? How did doomguy get free?

LOL, since when did you want to play Doom for the plot? Just play the fucking game and don't ask any questions because we cannot right a cohesive story if our lives depended on it.

>Anon, tell me at least what does Sam Hayden say?

"The Icon of Sin gets stronger the longer that he spends on Earth."

Honestly, watching all the cutscenes ruined any interest I had towards the game because it feels like there ISN'T any meaning to it at all. In fact, I'd actually say that Doom Eternal comes off like it's trying to be edgy in the most out-of-touch way possible. You remember that one episode of Walker, Texas Ranger where he's trying to take down a Satanic cult, and how over-the-top that episode was the cultist being evil faggots? Yeah, take that and dial it too 100 and that's the type of tone that Eternal seemed to be going for. There's nothing fun or interesting about it.

>>16886802

>Where did the space castle come from?

The space castle is an ancient Sentinel battle fortress that Doomguy probably went and reactivated using Vega after Sammy ditched him in hell at the end of 2016.

>How did doomguy get free?

Space castle utilized slipgate tech so I imagine he rode it out of hell.

>Now I know there are no answers, only awful backstory.

You don't even know.

>Anon, tell me at least what does Sam Hayden say? It might be the only piece of story continuation from nudoom 1.

Roboman becomes your narrator during the final leg of the game because you plug him into your ship and take vega which is used to interface with the Makyrs tech to use their portals to get to earth to fight the Icon of Sin. During the last leg of the game it turns out Sam has known a bunch of background lore shit like who Doomguy was, the Sentinels, the way demons transform human souls into Argent energy, he knew about the Makyrs and why they need Argent, all of that shit. Which leads one to possibly believe that Sam wasn't even human. During a flashback cutscene when Doomguy is interred into the Night Sentinels a mysterious hooded figure who has the same voice actor as Hayden plugs Doomguy into a machine which gives him the superhuman abilities that he has in 2016/Eternal, which apparently the hooded figure wasn't supposed to do. When you arrive at the Makyr homeworld Urdak, as you enter the building the building's intercom says "Welcome home, Seraphim." Later in the game when you plug Vega into the Makyr tech on their homeworld and he is able to interface flawlessly Vega says. "I understand now. Mr. Hayden, am I the Father?"

After a night's sleep and a stiff drink I went and poured over the lore tab in game and it turns out that the Makyrs worshiped some kind of intelligence called the Father which gave them all of their knowledge and allowed them to reincarnate making them immortal. At some point X years ago the Father vanished from Urdak and somebody called the Seraphim possibly stole it. With the lore scraps from 2016 that said that Vega possibly was built out of alien technology because of how advanced it is and how Sammy seems to know everything, put all of that together and you get this: Samuel was/is a Seraphim which is some third party that worked within the dynamic of the Makyrs, Demons and Sentinels. When Doomguy got interred into the Sentinels Samuel wanted to fuck over the Makyrs so he turned Doomguy into a Seraphim with that machine and gave him his lmao xd rip and tear jesus powers. After that Samuel probably stole Vega/The Father from Urdak and then fucked off to wherever during which in this period the Makyrs realized they were all mortal and couldn't reincarnate/reproduce, so they decided to puppet Hell into rolling over the Sentinels to steal their energy producing tech to combine it into an engine to create Argent energy, which is created by torturing humans in hell and then absorbing and refining their souls into Argent, which is then used to extend the Makyr's lifespan.

Oh, did you not pick up on any of that while playing? Did the game seem like a disconnected shitpile mess where you move from set piece to set piece while random narrators make vague references to bullshit that makes no sense? Guess you should have collected all of the lore pages and read the codex lmao.

And this leads to the main question: Why the fuck did Samuel do any of this shit in the first place? Who knows, just milk and meme until it is done. Fuck sake. Instead of having a barebones story that doesn't matter in 2016 this is what they can come up with when they actually try and do a story.

>>16886377

In the classic Doom games, despite the fact that the game seems much simpler mechanically because you don't have as many features, the gameplay in Doom Eternal is actually dumbed down in comparison because you quickly realise there is only one valid way to kill a given enemy type. This isn't just rose tinted bullshit. To use the cacodemon again, if you kill it in any manner but "Step 1. Shoot sticky bomb in mouth, Step 2. Glory kill" you are disadvantaging yourself significantly. Enemies don't drop goodies if you shoot them to death unless you use the flame belch, so you need to follow their "weak point" strategy or use a particular weapon to get them to stagger. It makes the combat encounters seem a lot more like following a laundry list of steps that never changes as opposed to making any real decisions.

In the classic games your weapon choice was either tied to what ammo you had available, or what enemy it was and how many of them there are. The ammo availability part is also missing from new Doom due to being required to use glory kills all the time.

>>16886882

The Glory kill for Health, Fire Kill for Armor, and Chainsaw for Ammo, really makes it seem like they are just too fucking lazy to actually create item placements in the levels, and that's going to be a determent on the entire games level design, their can't be points of interest to influence the players decisions if it's impossible to run out of anything. Resource management is probably one of the big things that prevents dominant strategy.

If you see a ton of ammo for a certain weapon you will lean into using that weapon for the sake of knowing you wont run out of ammo easily, that is a way to encourage the player to keep trying different weapons. but if you can just cut open an enemy and get ammo for everything when ever the fuck you want, what is going to prevent the player from just killing the same enemy the same way over and over again, once they find the one way that works?

Final impressions is that it's still 5.5/10 or a 6/10.

I like what it tries to be, I hate the chainsaw and glorykill focus and it's near impossible to opt out of both and there's no getting around that it's a AAA game made for mass appeal instead of a niche game so a lot of the more interesting stuff like weapon upgrades, mods and whatnot are relegated to casual shit like revealing secrets through wall(implying that the function isn't already excessive by default) and lower cooldowns, more armor, more health, etc. In other words these systems are nothing that allow you to get creative and see a weapon in a new way(even weapon mods) but are simply ways to increment the player's base strength, which really I felt was good solely by introducing new weapons and weapon mods after you get the dash.

Anons, I say try it if you're slightly interested and be prepared to ignore or opt out of a lot of shit if you want to not be annoyed. It's still not true doom.

Also I cannot for the life of me remember any of the music outside of the menu music and the classic tracks in the JL watchtower(I really forget the name they have for it but it has Doom in the name, doom fortress or something). The over the top aesthetic felt really try-hardy(Like naming the practice area "Ripatorium" and was more annoying than amusing, especially the UAC announcements.

Also the game should have ended Douk style where it turns out the ARC is full of hot ladies and Doomguy(Sorry, DoomSLAYER™) takes the organization as his harem. If only this game were moddable.

DoomSLAYER copyright xXxT1mmyR3@p3rXxX and Bethesda

>>16886686

There's a goofy glory kill once you get the speedup rune where you hammer fist the heads of zombies like it's whackamole. I like those sorts of amusing animations like the caco's expression while staggering.

>>16886606

>Weapons Mod

Basically it all does, for anons who are curious, is that it removes glory kills and replaces it with a buffed siphon grenade with a long cooldown so healing isn't readily available, which is nice

It also tightens the spread on weapons and increases damage so it's more powerful and the gameplay doesn't revolve around staggering and glory kills. You also get the maximum ammo count upgrades from the start(I assume it's buffed too).

Honestly I still hated 2016 with it. The levels are still barren outside of combat arenas and the game isn't designed for it since there are no additional pickups in the maps and your movement speed is still ass.

>>16886546

>Christ Centered Gaming

Actually I find them a bit too lenient on the gameplay side of things. Like for example, Ys Memories of Celceta getting a 92.

>>16886901

Another near identical sequel, except with edgy pretend-lore replaced by even worse HFY reddit lore and with gameplay about as complex and oversatured as Guitar Hero?

No thanks.

>>16886887

I have seen retards praising the game because the has a low ammo count, especially for the shotgun and claiming it somehow makes the game more strategic because you are forced to switch between weapons and then use the chainsaw to get a piddly amount of ammo back from enemies. The original two games, 64, and even DOOM 3 didn't have to gimp the play for ammo. The strategy of the games lay in using the right weapon for the job. So, pistol for grunts, shotgun for imps, chaingun for crowds, etc, etc. It amazes me people actually think being forced to use glory kills or the chainsaw to get ammo back is a positive just because nuid are fucking lazy and do not want to place ammo packs around the map or even up the amount of ammo you can carry.

>>16886914

HFY is from /tg/, no fucking shit, but it's since been horribly tainted by the internet at large, as all things old and good do. It's another pseudointellectual fandom movement now. Only the obscure survive. You kill yourself in turn, faggot.

>>16886914

Yeah. /tg/ on 4chan over five years ago. And do you know what happened? After a while it got so cancerous and masturbatory that after being told to fuck off the HFY fags dove into the embrace of reddit.

>I did the things the dev set out for me to do aren't I so gud don't think just consume

Maybe on 4chan you'll get praise for jumping through hoops like the good little pet you are, but not here. Fuck off faggot.

>>16886641

>>16886654

Nah it's straight But does have optional "loving" CBT with magical healing, the guy loves having his balls crushed.

>>16886825

The next game should be a remake of original doom except all enemies are reskinned to look like dootslayer

>>16886921

>>16886924

Even I think this degenerate shit is disgusting, go away.

>>16885946

>>16885950

>>16885948

Here's a quick rundown, anon

>Darksiders 1

Basically a Zelda and God of Ward(Lite) hybrid. Bibilical aesthetic where both angels and demons have their fair share of dicks and hate humanity(It's like Valdis story, they're both cunts and the God of the story likes Humans more than either of them so they're both envious too). You play as the four horsemen(Pestilence/Famine and Conquest are now Fury and Strife) in the series, in DS1 you're playing as War. Big sword, big guy, "honor and loyalty" and all that. Liam O'Brian voices him and he's pretty good. There's also mark hamill as a voice actor and he's the standout. It's a neat Dark Zelda game but if you're not a fan of that you won't find much to enjoy, the combat is a very watered down version of God of War with very little area to experiment outside of crossblade cancelling.

>Darksiders 2

Is more of a cuhrayzee game, but it's also clearly rushed and unfinished. Has more fluid combat with a primary weapon(Scythe) combo and a secondary(Basically heavy(Spear, Maul, Hammer) or light(i forget what they were. Daggers I think?)) combo and crossovers, with some charge attacks and parries. Also like Nioh has a diablo-style loot system, unlike Nioh it's completely fucking worthless and once you get weapon lifesteal you've practically won the game, if you wish for challenge you'll be wanting to rock loot a few levels below your current.

Also has a lovely aesthetic and music(By Jesper Kyd, I hesitate to say it but I think it's among his best because there isn't a single track that I disliked)

Also, Michael Wincott voices Death and he is wonderful for the role. He's basically Discworld's Death but less comedic. Slightly sarcastic and whatnot but he really wants to save his brother so there's a kind side to him.

>Darksiders 3

I really disliked this. It's clunky and it tries to be a hybrid of Dark Souls and Darksiders 2 but all that means is that it's the combat of Darksiders 2, but slower and there's far less room to experiment, you die in two or three hits and it focuses heavily on dodge counters. fury is a shit character, never outright and the femwatcher is basically there to very limply jerk off Fury's ego in an unsatisfying way. The music is also shit outside of the ending music and like 20 seconds of Illusions of Glory, the 20 seconds that keep playing whenever fury teleports somewhere in a cutscene. I like how weapons are hand crafted this time around, with the weapons giving you both visual changes in fury's hair(the flame weapon has her flame hair) and in combat/gameplay(Movesets, also the flameweapon gets a triple jump, lighting gets a glide, frost gets The World and wall climbs(but it's certain walls) and the void gets on rails movement on specific walls and sinks underwater). Mediocre at best to be honest.

>Genesis

I haven't played much of this because my brother's a faggot and he keeps lazing out of playing it(Even if he keeps bothering me saying that we should play it). What little I played as War and what even littler I played as Strife, I like it. War plays like a top down version of his DS1 counterpart, but with a heavy attack string, and there are sword enhancement that while give a passive effect(like lightning arcs) they also give a charged heavy attack like a shockwave or a lightning bolt.

Strife plays like a fast twin stick shooter with dashes. You aim and fire, and you have a bar called hotstreak that charges up when firing and then gives your ammo type a special effect. You have ammo types like regular(fast firing,hotstreak is super fast), charge(hotstreak

Both characters also get abilities like the other games(hold R1 and then a face button) and they're neat. Strife gets doubles acting as turrets, War gets a stupidly powerful ground pound from DS1.

The graphics are quite good, the banter between Strife and War is good(if a bit rare), the music is excellent(so far, apparently the Ori composer is the one doing it for Genesis, speaking of which how is the second Ori?)

I'm not sure how it's like in singleplayer but I really enjoyed the first two levels I played.

Also very much like Spiral Knights after THAT update the game in co-op has an issue where every player has to individually collect certain items(boatman coins and monster cores) despite the item being cloned for both players. So if your co-op partner sucks dick at platforming you can be waiting a couple of minutes for them to collect a key you've collected in 5 seconds.

>post is too long

My dick is too long. Fuck you.

>>16886901

I really want the next games to avoid gameplay interrupts with canned animations.

It's like someone makes a new Mirrors Edge game and they think "Okay, lets add a canned animation for door opening and it will be super cool™ and let us then have doors everywhere."

>>16886912

It's not even there. There are some neatly placed pickups in arenas, mostly health and armor(But it's not nearly enough compared to Glory/Flame belch), but very rarely is it ammo.

Which tells me there is someone on the team that knows what they're doing, but glory kills so badass™ was the focus.

>>16886924

Reminder the coomer meme is 100% accurate and porn addiction will lead you to stuff like this, the only reason people rage against it so fucking hard is because they don't like a meme that directly insults them.

Don't be like d88b48, have at least some self-control.

>>16886929

Didn't DS3 sell like shit as well? I remember hearing it was one of the reasons THQ ended up going bust.

>>16886932

Darksiders 3 was after THQ went bust(apparently it was due to a handheld THQ made that bombed spectacularly but I wasn't paying attention, really) and Nordic games became THQ nordic. It's made by Gunfire Games which is supposedly ex Vigil employees.

It's just clunky as shit and feels like an amatuer's team's first try. I had hoped they would really take their time and deliver on what

The issue is from Darksiders 1 I really wanted to play Strife because it implies a cool, cuhrayzee TPS game and so far(the games, besides DS3 and Genesis have an utterly shit third person shooter section on a ruined earth and it is super shit) I have no faith in either Vigil or Gunfire to deliver. I liked playing Strife in Genesis though.

>Don't be like d88b48, have at least some self-control.

I'm trying but it's difficult. Slowly increasing my no-fap streak time by time but it really sucks to wank to stupid, digusting shit and then feeling terrible about it afterwards, all the while your inner voice is telling you to stop wasting free time and go do something I actually like

>>>/v/16886932

Reminder the coomer meme comes from cuckchan.

>>16886935

>apparently it was due to a handheld THQ made that bombed spectacularly but I wasn't paying attention, really

Not a handheld, but rather a drawing tablet called the uDraw. They made it for the Wii and it sold really way, so they made copies for the Xbox and PlayStation as well. Way too many. They vastly overestimated the demand for more hardcore consoles and as a result the thing was on clearence within the month. It cost them millions upon millions.

Interestingly enough, it's also cited as one of the many reasons for the Wii U's failure. It has a similar and and is visually very similar. Pared with Nintendo's awful obtuse advertising for the Wii U caused a lot of people to think the Wii U was just Nintendo's own version of the uDraw

>but it really sucks to wank to stupid, disgusting shit and then feeling terrible about it afterwards

Fuck me, do I know this feeling. I've tried nofap a few times but can never last more than 9 or 10 days. Thankfully I've never gotten into shit like gore or castration like that other faggot did, but I hate how porn occupies my mind 60% of the time. I don't like how I've been into the habit of randomly watching porn as a hobby now. It doesn't even feel good anymore and I always feel like such a loser when I finish.

>>16886942

He's still absolutely right.

>>16886944

*similar name