480fb8 No.16879199[Last 50 Posts]
FULL SPECS REVEALED
Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation
http://archive.is/CKPOa
Inside Xbox Series X: the full specs (Eurogamer):
http://archive.vn/H6CFg
>powered by an 8 core AMD Zen 2 CPU and an RDNA 2-class GPU
>As expected, we're getting eight CPU cores and 16 threads, delivered via two quad-core units on the silicon, with one CPU core (or two threads) reserved for running the underlying operating system and the front-end 'shell'. Microsoft is promising a 4x improvement in both single-core and overall throughput over Xbox One X - and CPU speeds are impressive, with a peak 3.8GHz frequency. This is when SMT - or hyper-threading - is disabled. Curiously, developers can choose to run with eight physical cores at the higher clock, or all cores and threads can be enabled with a lower 3.6GHz frequency. Those frequencies are completely locked and won't adjust according to load or thermal conditions.
>Series X processor is actually capable of running four Xbox One S game sessions simultaneously on the same chip, and contains an new internal video encoder that is six times as fast as the more latent, external encoder used on current xCloud servers.
>4K60 and 120fps performance targets
>support for hardware accelerated DirectX Raytracing, which simulates the properties of light and sound in real time more accurately than any technology before it
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f84d7c No.16879208
Where are the exclusive games?
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fc7ccd No.16879213
>>16879208
They only bought up shitty studios, so would you really want to know what exclusive games are coming out?
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fc7ccd No.16879218
>>16879199
Also, wasn't M$ shilling that the Xsex would be able to do 8K? Did they realize that 60fps at 4k is already lying so they would be sued for claiming it could do 8k?
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480fb8 No.16879219
Xbox Series X: Making Gaming’s Best Controller Even Better (Xbox Wire):
http://archive.is/dyIgN
Xbox Series X: What’s the Deal with Latency? (Xbox Wire):
http://archive.is/gwr19
>supporting cross-compatibility between Xbox Series X and Xbox One consoles and controllers
>new Share button for Series X controller
>tactile dot pattern on the triggers and bumpers, which provides grip to improve feel and performance during gameplay
>developing brand new technology such as Dynamic Latency Input (DLI) as well as helping to shape the HDMI 2.1 specification by adding new gaming-centric features such as support for 120hz, Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) and Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM). The team has also been working with the industry’s leading TV manufacturers for the past two years to ensure the display ecosystem is ready for the features coming with Xbox Series X.
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480fb8 No.16879225
LOADING TIMES TECH DEMO
Demo uses backward compatible Xbox title to demonstrate load time technology and does not represent gameplay optimized for Xbox Series X.
Through Xbox Series X's revolutionary Velocity Engine Architecture, gamers will experience more time playing and less time waiting as loading times will be greatly decreased and fast travel systems will be just that: fast.
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480fb8 No.16879226
QUICK RESUME TECH DEMO
Demo uses backward compatible Xbox titles to demonstrate Quick Resume technology and does not represent gameplay optimized for Xbox Series X.
Quick Resume is a new feature powered by the technical capabilities and the innovative Xbox Velocity Architecture Engine in the Xbox Series X. Quick Resume enables players to seamlessly switch between multiple titles from a suspended state almost instantly, returning you to where you were and what you were doing, without waiting through long loading screens.
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74d16a No.16879232
>>16879218
I'm pretty certain all they've claimed is that they can support 8k, the same way the base XboneS can support 4k in video content.
>4k 60FPS
It's done in first party games on the XboneX.
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683fe9 No.16879245
For a moment there I thought SMT was finally coming back to Xbox
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8b337c No.16879260
>>16879225
>50 Second Fucking Loading Times
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e344a4 No.16879266
>>16879260
There's no power greater than X
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74d16a No.16879278
>>16879260
You can't really expect much out of a laptop CPU from 2012 and a 5400rpm HDD.
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2c98f6 No.16879281
>>16879199
I seriously have no fucking clue what's going on with the Microshaft console naming. First there was the Xbox, then there was the Xbox 360, and then… I'm lost. Xbox One? As in the first one? Xbox One S(hit)? Xbox One Xbox? Xbox series Xbox? What the flying fuck? Just fucking number them you retards, Sony did this correctly. PSX, PS2, PS3, PS4, PS4 Pro (small upgrade) and then PS5.
Soytendo always went with gimmicks and so numbering doesn't make sense for them as the systems were barely related to one another, the only thing that connected them was getting the same old games as ever. You got your Super Cuck Mario, Twink Zelda, Smash My Ass Bros, Pokeyman, Metroid and the rest of the 5-10 year old target audience games.
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ae289e No.16879286
>>16879281
I gotta assume it's about just fooling retards into buying up either the newest model or to get rid of old stock getting the older models.
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119e69 No.16879290
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16879260
Unless you've been playing on PC your entirely life, this shouldn't be a surprise, loading has been that way for Open World games since at least GTA Vice City.
The game has to load the entire game world, and then once that initial loading is done, any loading afterword "should" be minimal.
The only reason why this problem of long loading times hasn't been solved is because the power of better resources each generation keeps going into making a game word that is even bigger, and more detailed, which makes it even harder to load. so in terms of loading times no progress has been made, since everyone accepts that's the price you have to pay for your game to look nice. The loading times for DMC 5 aren't too bad on PC, but I'v heard they are abysmal on Console, and that makes sense given how needlessly detailed that game is, since in order for DMC5 to have been a success the higher ups at Capcom knew they needed to Graphics to be a good as possible, loading times be damned.
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224746 No.16879297
>>16879219
But does it work with PC?
>>16879199
But can it run PC games?
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410fe4 No.16879302
>>16879219
Does it still require AA batteries?
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74d16a No.16879307
>>16879302
Appears to have a latch there, so probably. I don't see what's wrong with that, if your AA batteries run dry all you have to do is just swap them out in a few seconds instead of being tethered via cable for some minutes. If you don't want to use disposable batteries you can just get some eneloops or other rechargables.
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77980c No.16879310
>>16879281
>I seriously have no fucking clue what's going on with the Microshaft console naming.
>Just fucking number them you retards, Sony did this correctly.
They can't because it's psychological. If you put a "Xbox 4" and a "PS5" next to each other, normalfags will buy a PS5 because 5 is greater than 4.
It's the same reason why Nintendo doesn't do that and went with gimmicky names.
>Xbox One Xbox?
No, XBox One X meant "XBOX".
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5a1d0e No.16879313
>>16879281
I mean this one could be Xbox sex to go with the xbone.
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410fe4 No.16879317
>>16879307
I don't mind needing a cable for a few minutes compared to having to buy batteries, or paying for a separate rechargeable battery. You can't even use the data cable to charge the battery, it's a separate USB port just for charging it
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165ae8 No.16879318
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>>16879290
>The game has to load the entire game world, and then once that initial loading is done, any loading afterword "should" be minimal.
that's not how it works, especially with the limited ram on consoles. not even PCs could hold the whole map in memory (and if they could access would be pretty much instant outside loading calculations).
game assets got bigger both in size and sum, so more stuff to render and calculate, which means more to load from a harddrive - and those haven't necessarily become faster over the last decade. 5400 is still the go-to option because price/noise/thermals (if they even support new features, ps4 is still gimped). and with limited ram consoles even have to constantly swap more shit (if it's even set up this way, iirc battlefield still loads everything every map change, no idea if they changed it by now).
then there's also the whole multiplayer stuff, some games need to constantly check shit before getting you into the world, so even on SSDs it can take a bit before shit got send back and forth and verified etc.
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fc7ccd No.16879320
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>>16879232
Which is not that impressive since they have to use cheap tricks to keep the framerate up.
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592cca No.16879324
>>16879208
You shouldn't be encouraging that shit by asking that question you fucking fuck
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119e69 No.16879333
>>16879318
>that's not how it works, especially with the limited ram on consoles. not even PCs could hold the whole map in memory (and if they could access would be pretty much instant outside loading calculations).
I worded myself poorly. I didn't intend to say the game has the entire game world in memory at the same time. Just that the initial loading process is the longest one, and if the game is programmed well, you shouldn't be seeing the game load anything more then the beginning of mission after the initial loading process.
The example I'm thinking of in my head is Spider-Man Web of Shadow's, which will never have you see a load screen in the open world after it's first loading process, unless you dedicate yourself to getting to the max swing speed level, and even then you pretty much have to Want to make the game load purposefully.
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74d16a No.16879334
>>16879320
That video is from 2015 before the Xbox One X came out. Look at more recent games, such as Forza Motorsport 7 which runs at native 4k 60FPS.
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49ed7d No.16879345
>>16879226
>switching between multiple games frequently enough to need this as a feature
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74d16a No.16879349
>>16879345
Being able to pick up a game the exact same way you left it off in 10 seconds is a pretty neat feature, though.
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49ed7d No.16879353
>>16879349
Yeah, but it seems a strange feature to kind of broadcast. Like, maybe I'm taking this wrong way but it's kinda suggesting "Hey, games are so shit and unengaging, but don't worry we made it easy to hop around a bunch quickly."
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41c863 No.16879355
>>16879208
nogaems
Also saging a shill thread. Check em.
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eb0f89 No.16879361
So why get this when you can wait literally build a PC with 12 cores as the norm if the Ryzen zen 4 rumours are true and have free online along with piracy , mods , 4k 140HZ 100+FPS and upgradability?
>>16879349
PCs have been doing multitasking similar to this for a long ass time.
>>16879297
>But can it run PC games?
It can most likely run ports but why own this when it's an overall inferior experience?
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fc7ccd No.16879365
>>16879353
What else can the Xsex advertise? We have hit a point where the graphics don't look that different between the generations. They certainly won't compensate by making good games. So the only option left is that they can hit higher framerates, higher resolution, and things load faster. All things a good PC can do.
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d5125c No.16879371
>>16879199
>8 core AMD Zen 2 CPU and an RDNA 2-class GPU
what the fuck do all these techno runes mean?
>3.8GHz
wut?
>SMT
Shin Megami Tensei?
>4K60
again, wut?
>120fps
even if every single game that comes out is a first person shooter we all know there won't be nearly as many as 120
>DirectX Raytracing
yet again, wut?
seriously what the fuck does all this mean?
how many bits does this console have?
does it have blast processor?
will there be any visible difference in graphics between the gen and the previous? our is it gonna be unnoticeable like last gen and the previous?
what advantages does this gen have over the previous? because the quality and quantity of available games has certainly been very lack luster these past few gens
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eb0f89 No.16879380
>>16879365
PCIe 4.0 m.2 drives are retard fast and 4k gaming above 60FPS is very well going to be a thing with the next gen of Nivdia and AMD cards. So I really don't see the point of the PS5 or Xbone Cuck series XXX when you can build a PC that will be upgradable, like the only console that's kinda worth getting is Bing Bing wahoo due to it having some decent games compared to the other two, but even then you can just get the roms on PC and have it run even better with Mod support just look at BOTW.
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7ef7cb No.16879382
>>16879219
>same shitty shape
JUST
>d-pad is the same one they have on their elite controllers
JUST
>bumpers didn't get a redesign, so it's still the same fragile, "clicky" piece of shit
JUST
>STILL USES AA BATTERIES
J U S T
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41c863 No.16879384
>>16879371
>what advantages does this gen have over the previous?
Backwards compatibility is this big push this time. You know, so you can play the old games that were actually good.
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a19771 No.16879386
>>16879353
I view it more like "oh hey my buddy wants to play [multiplayer game] with me, I can play a few rounds and hop back to where I was really fast." Not like I'm holding out TOO much hope for this generation even if I do want good games.
I think the most concerning thing will be price. I don't expect a dime less than $500 for the kit. Probably $549 or $599 to retail, without tax.
>>16879361
>So why get this when you can wait literally build a PC with 12 cores as the norm if the Ryzen zen 4 rumours are true and have free online along with piracy , mods , 4k 140HZ 100+FPS and upgradability?
Because consolefags don't care about PCs, piracy, mods (Fallout 4 on console has them) and the kind of PC that would compete with the XSeX would cost about $1000 bucks right now.
>Zen 4, 12 cores
You're skipping Zen 3. Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) will probably be followed by Zen 2+ (Ryzen 4000) which will simply be improvements and cost reduction, similar to Zen+ (Ryzen 2000). AMD is essentially following Intel's old tick-tock scheme which Intel gave up on since they can't sort out new processes fast on their fabs. 12 cores is hopelessly optimistic, they said Zen 2 will have 8 cores on the 3600. It didn't. The rumour mill on AMD gear is always hopeless optimism.
>PCs have been doing multitasking similar to this for a long ass time.
Have they? I'm on PC now, and I certainly can't save my game state instantly and put it on my HDD or SSD. Definitely not without some clunky third party software that barely works. Emphasis on barely works. I think you're confusing alt tabbing and save states, two completely different things.
Fuck you and your shitty site, ron.
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d5125c No.16879393
>>16879384
>old games that were actually good.
>on Xbox
so, DoA and Ninja Gaiden? i don't remember many more excluding the multyplats of course
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eb0f89 No.16879408
>>16879386
>Because consolefags don't care about PCs,
A lot of them switched as PC game rose even higher the past few years. The lack of a fuck surrounding the new gen is very evident, consoles are dying out.
>kind of PC that would compete with the XSeX would cost about $1000 bucks right now.
You can build a rig for 600$ that can run majority of games 1080p 60 FPS and you can always upgrade to better parts latter down the line.
>I think you're confusing alt tabbing and save states, two completely different things.
Ok I concede on this part.
>12 cores is hopelessly optimistic,
>The rumour mill on AMD gear is always hopeless optimism.
Not wholly as AMD has been making more cores available to the mainstream, but I do agree people are way too optimistic.
>>16879384
And most of those games you can play on PC due to ports or emulation 4FREE to boot.
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eb0f89 No.16879412
>>16879408
>PC game
PC gaming
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49ed7d No.16879424
>>16879380
Now, while I do have a pretty great CPU/GPU, and am probably shooting off my mouth for no reason.
4k 60fps is already a thing.
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49ed7d No.16879429
>>16879393
Blinx, JSRF, Voodoo Vince, Fusion Frenzy is actually an underrated mariopartyesque game.
Not to mention multiplats as a general rule, played best on the xbox since they didn't have to crunch space like the gamecube, or crunch quality like on the ps2.
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d5125c No.16879447
>>16879429
>Blinx
meh, overrated
>JSRF
wasn't this a Dreamcast game?
>Voodoo Vince
boring, but nice soundtrak
>Fusion Frenzy
never heard of it
>quality crunch on PS2
oh no, what am i going to do without those 2 extra pixels/polygons that come with the Xbox…
i never noticed any graphical improvement from PS2 to Xbox, it was clear as day from Sega Genesis to SNES or PS1 to N64 or even from Dreamcast to PS2 but from that generation onward there was barely any difference
besides, the PS has always had the best controller
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eb0f89 No.16879449
>>16879447
> PS has always had the best controller
I use a Dualshock 4 for the times I use a controller on PC.
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49ed7d No.16879453
>>16879447
You'd actually be surprised at all the corner cutting that had to be done for ps2 multiplats.
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d5125c No.16879470
>>16879453
if true, i'm actually surprised by how little anyone noticed the corner cutting
my family used to run a rental store back in the day, so i had all 3 consoles back then and a lot of vidya for all of them, we used to buy multyplats for as many consoles we could but eventually we just started buying them for PS2 only because nobody was renting the Xbox due to the controller being a big black brick, even the FIFA/W11 niggers didn't notice any difference and they all were bunch of graphix whores, i do remember the racer faggots claiming the cars looked shinier on Xbox but that's about it
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119e69 No.16879479
>>16879393
>>16879429
>never heard of it
Of course you never heard of it you can probably just look at a list of Original Xbox games and easily find hundreds of games you never knew existed, that are going to be just as interesting as equally obscure games that are on any other console, the main difference is that Xbox PC emulation isn't on the same level as emulation for other consoles, so anything on Xbox is going to be even more obscure due to needing an actual Xbox, and not just an emulator.
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119e69 No.16879484
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480fb8 No.16879501
>>16879371
http://archive.is/zimeD
Defining the Next Generation: An Xbox Series X Technology Glossary
As we enter a new generation of console gaming with Xbox Series X, we’ve made a number of technology advancements across hardware and software that will take your gaming experience to the next level. We’ve created the below guide to help familiarize yourself with some of the new terms we’re introducing to describe the tech and functionality of Xbox Series X.
Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) – As part of commitment to responsiveness for the next generation of console gaming, Xbox Series X supports Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) with capable displays. ALLM automatically enables your display’s lowest latency mode when you start playing. This functionality exists on Xbox One consoles today
Backward Compatibility – At Xbox, we’ve made a promise to compatibility: you can expect thousands of your favorite games across four generations of gaming, your Xbox One gaming accessories, your Xbox gaming legacy, and industry-leading services like Xbox Game Pass to work with Xbox Series X. Backward compatible games will benefit from the power and performance of Xbox Series X, resulting in steadier framerates, faster load times, improved resolution and visual fidelity. Fans and game creators can feel confident they will be able to play and create the best version of their games on the Xbox Series X.
DirectML – Xbox Series X supports Machine Learning for games with DirectML, a component of DirectX. DirectML leverages unprecedented hardware performance in a console, benefiting from over 24 TFLOPS of 16-bit float performance and over 97 TOPS (trillion operations per second) of 4-bit integer performance on Xbox Series X. Machine Learning can improve a wide range of areas, such as making NPCs much smarter, providing vastly more lifelike animation, and greatly improving visual quality.
DirectStorage – DirectStorage is an all new I/O system designed specifically for gaming to unleash the full performance of the SSD and hardware decompression. It is one of the components that comprise the Xbox Velocity Architecture. Modern games perform asset streaming in the background to continuously load the next parts of the world while you play, and DirectStorage can reduce the CPU overhead for these I/O operations from multiple cores to taking just a small fraction of a single core; thereby freeing considerable CPU power for the game to spend on areas like better physics or more NPCs in a scene. This newest member of the DirectX family is being introduced with Xbox Series X and we plan to bring it to Windows as well.
Dynamic Latency Input (DLI) –Another innovation we are making to reduce latency for Xbox Series X is Dynamic Latency Input (DLI). With DLI, developers can more accurately synchronize the player’s input with the game’s simulation and render loop, even further reducing input latency while playing the game.
GPU Work Creation – Xbox Series X adds hardware, firmware and shader compiler support for GPU work creation that provides powerful capabilities for the GPU to efficiently handle new workloads without any CPU assistance. This provides more flexibility and performance for developers to deliver their graphics visions.
Hardware Accelerated DirectX Raytracing (DXR) – From improved lighting, shadows and reflections as well as more realistic acoustics and spatial audio, raytracing enables developers to create more physically accurate worlds. For the very first time in a game console, Xbox Series X includes support for high performance, hardware accelerated raytracing. Xbox Series X uses a custom-designed GPU leveraging the latest innovation from our partners at AMD and built in collaboration with the same team who developed DirectX Raytracing. Developers will be able to deliver incredibly immersive visual and audio experiences using the same techniques on PC and beyond.
Hardware Decompression – Hardware decompression is a dedicated hardware component introduced with Xbox Series X to allow games to consume as little space as possible on the SSD while eliminating all CPU overhead typically associated with run-time decompression. It reduces the software overhead of decompression when operating at full SSD performance from more than three CPU cores to zero – thereby freeing considerable CPU power for the game to spend on areas like better gameplay and improved framerates. Hardware decompression is one of the components of the Xbox Velocity Architecture.
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480fb8 No.16879508
>>16879501
Intelligent Delivery – Microsoft’s developer facing technology to reduce the size of game installs. Intelligent Delivery empowers developers to only install the pieces of the game you need, thereby minimizing the amount of content that needs to be installed or downloaded to the SSD.
Latency – Latency refers to responsiveness of the console and controller, including the time it takes for your input to be registered by your console and then displayed on your screen. Reducing latency results in a more connected and immersive experience. Xbox Series X will be our most responsive console ever featuring ultra-low latency with advanced technology that minimizes latency at every stage of the gaming pipeline so that you instantly see the impact of your actions on the screen.
Mesh Shading – Mesh shading will enable developers to dramatically improve the performance and image quality when rendering a substantial number of complex objects in a scene. As an example, mesh shaders could enable the player to experience asteroid belts and fields of flowers in more pristine detail without seeing a loss in performance.
Native Resolution – Native Resolution is an Xbox Series X backwards compatibility enhancement for select Xbox One games that allows them to render at native 4K even if they weren’t originally designed for 4K.
Optimized for Xbox Series X – Games built using the Xbox Series X development kit and designed to take advantage of the unique capabilities of the Xbox Series X. These include new titles built natively using the Xbox Series X development environment as well as previously released titles that have been rebuilt specifically for Xbox Series X. They will showcase unparalleled load-times, visuals, responsiveness and framerates up to 120 fps.
Parallel Cooling Architecture – Parallel Cooling Architecture is the name of the innovative system design used to cool Xbox Series X. Building a console that delivers four times the processing power of Xbox One X in the most quiet and efficient way – something that is critically important with all the extra power of our next generation console – led to its unique vertical design.
Project Acoustics – Incubated over a decade by Microsoft Research, Project Acoustics accurately models sound propagation physics in mixed reality and games, employed by many AAA experiences today. It is unique in simulating wave effects like diffraction in complex scene geometries without straining CPU, enabling a much more immersive and lifelike auditory experience. Plug-in support for both the Unity and Unreal game engines empower the sound designer with expressive controls to mold reality. Developers will be able to easily leverage Project Acoustics with Xbox Series X through the addition of a new custom audio hardware block.
Quick Resume – A new feature powered by the technical capabilities and the innovative Xbox Velocity Architecture in Xbox Series X, Quick Resume enables players to seamlessly switch between multiple titles and resume instantly from where you last left off.
RDNA 2 – The custom designed processor in the Xbox Series X leverages RDNA 2, the latest next generation graphics architecture from our partners at AMD. RDNA 2 provides a significant advancement in performance and efficiency as well as next generation graphics features such as hardware accelerated raytracing and variable rate shading.
Sampler Feedback Streaming (SFS) – A component of the Xbox Velocity Architecture, SFS is a feature of the Xbox Series X hardware that allows games to load into memory, with fine granularity, only the portions of textures that the GPU needs for a scene, as it needs it. This enables far better memory utilization for textures, which is important given that every 4K texture consumes 8MB of memory. Because it avoids the wastage of loading into memory the portions of textures that are never needed, it is an effective 2x or 3x (or higher) multiplier on both amount of physical memory and SSD performance.
SDR to HDR Conversion – With Xbox Series X, existing Xbox games, including recent titles within the ID@Xbox program, that don’t already have native HDR support will get the next-gen treatment. Xbox Series X is able to leverage an innovative HDR reconstruction technique to enhance existing SDR games with no work from developers and no impact to available CPU, GPU or memory resources.
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480fb8 No.16879511
>>16879508
Smart Delivery – Smart Delivery is a new technology introduced with Xbox Series X that will ensure you always play the best version of the games you own for your console, across generations. All Xbox Game Studios titles that are optimized for Xbox Series X, including “Halo Infinite” will support Smart Delivery, providing the best available version for whichever console you choose to play on. For example, this means if you purchase the Xbox One version of a supported title, we will identify and deliver the best version of it to your Xbox One, as usual. If you decide to jump into the next generation with Xbox Series X, we will automatically provide the Xbox Series X optimized version of the game at no additional cost if and when it becomes available. Smart Delivery is available to all Xbox developers.
Spatial Audio – Spatial Audio delivers deeply immersive audio which enables the player to more accurately pinpoint objects in a 3D play space. With full support for Dolby Atmos, DTS:X and Windows Sonic, Xbox Series X has custom audio hardware to offload audio processing from the CPU, dramatically improving the accessibility, quality and performance of these immersive experiences.
TFLOPS (Teraflops) – TFLOPS (or “teraflops”) stands for Trillion Floating-point Operations Per Second and is a measure of raw mathematical performance of a GPU. While Xbox Series X delivers 12 TFLOPS of 32-bit float performance, two times that of the Xbox One X, the architectural efficiency improvements brought by AMD’s RDNA 2 architecture plus our next generation features such as Variable Rate Shading (VRS) and hardware accelerated DirectX Raytracing means that Xbox Series X will deliver well over twice the effective graphics performance of Xbox One X for games.
Variable Rate Shading (VRS) – Variable Rate Shading increases GPU efficiency by concentrating shader work where it’s most needed and reducing shader work in areas where it won’t be noticeable. With minimal developer effort, VRS significantly improves GPU performance resulting in more stable and higher resolutions and frame rates with no perceptible loss in visual quality.
Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) – Variable Refresh Rate is a new addition to HDMI 2.1 which enables capable displays to refreshed as fast as the console can render images, thereby eliminating tearing, increasing smoothness, and reducing latency. We have been working with the industry’s leading TV manufacturers to ensure the display ecosystem is ready for the features we are bringing with Xbox Series X.
Xbox Series X Storage Expansion Card – Built in partnership with Seagate, this 1 TB custom storage solution expands storage capacity of Xbox Series X with the full speed and performance of the Xbox Velocity Architecture Previous generation Xbox titles can still be played directly from external USB 3.2 hard drives. However, to receive all the benefits of the Xbox Velocity Architecture and optimal performance, Xbox Series X, optimized games should be played from the internal SSD or Xbox Series X Storage Expansion Card.
Xbox Velocity Architecture – The Xbox Velocity Architecture is the new architecture we’ve created for the Xbox Series X to unlock new capabilities never-before seen in console development. It consists of four components: our custom NVMe SSD, a dedicated hardware decompression block, the all new DirectStorage API, and Sampler Feedback Streaming (SFS). This combination of custom hardware and deep software integration allows developers to radically improve asset streaming and effectively multiply available memory. It will enable richer and more dynamic living worlds unlike anything ever seen before. It also effectively eliminates loading times, and makes fast travel systems just that: fast.
Xbox Wireless Protocol – One of the first points to reduce latency is within the communication between your controller and your console. By bringing our existing high-bandwidth, low-latency wireless protocol on the Xbox One family of devices to Xbox Series X, we’re able to not only reduce latency in your gaming experience but also ensure all of your existing Xbox One gaming accessories will be compatible with Xbox Series X.
Zen 2 – The custom designed processor in the Xbox Series X leverages AMD’s latest Zen 2 CPU architecture. Zen 2 provides a significant advancement in CPU performance delivering more than 4 times the performance of an Xbox One X.
120 FPS – With support for up to 120 frames per second (FPS), Xbox Series X allows developers to exceed the more traditional 60 FPS in favor of heightened realism and more precise controls for fast-paced action.
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eb0f89 No.16879518
>>16879501
>>16879508
>>16879511
Yet all of the big names will be on PC including fucking Halo infinite.
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41c863 No.16879520
>op only posts press release blurbs
This is obviously a shill thread, why is it still up?
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480fb8 No.16879524
>>16879518
<m-mu-muh exclusives are on PC why waste money on Xbox
<Winblows 10
What will you think of next?
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49ed7d No.16879527
>>16879520
>Thread about upcoming console has posts about specifications quoted from official press releases
<GUISE IT'S A SHIIIIIIILL! HELP! BAN THIS THREAD!
Are you retarded
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4cc107 No.16879534
>>16879447
>wasn't this a Dreamcast game?
that was JSR
JSRF is the sequel
>i never noticed any graphical improvement from PS2 to Xbox
largely this
there were some games where the PS2 port was lazy as fuck compared to the XBOX but for most multiplats the best version was frequently on the Gamecube or PS2
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d5125c No.16879536
>>16879508
>>16879501
>>16879511
>replying to someone who is clearly tech illiterate
>with 3 fucking walls of text
>mfw
green text a tldr nigger, and make it easy to understand for someone whose understanding of console power never progressed past the 90s bit wars
this looks like the kind of shit some corporate shithead would write for a meeting, plebian consumers like me don't understand jack shit of all this techno mumbo jumbo
i got a headache from just the 3rd post and no way in hell i'm even trying to understand the other 2
the only things i got were improved NPC AIs and better textures and ligthing, and to that i say
show! don't tell
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0e07ec No.16879541
It'll never come out. These are the end times. The rapture will happen before the xbox series X releases.
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03dec9 No.16879546
>>16879310
>They can't because it's psychological. If you put a "Xbox 4" and a "PS5" next to each other, normalfags will buy a PS5 because 5 is greater than 4.
I can understand that, but then I never understand why MS didn't just go with Xbox 360 > Xbox 720 > Xbox 1440 or something like that. Sounds completely retarded but at least it makes sense and it's consistent.
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119e69 No.16879552
>>16879518
You underestimate just how much some people don't want to bother with using an actual computer to play games, and prefer a dedicated system.
Halo MCC came out on Steam, and in order to get my brother to play with me and my other brother, we had to dust off his tower PC that we built out of parts we weren't using anymore due to getting better ones, and booted it for the first time in over a year, aside from us all getting to play Halo, he was fine just playing whatever multi plats are on Xbone since Xbox Live is where all his online friends are.
The Xbox Series X could be exactly the same as a "Steam Box" but it will likely be far more successful since people who know Steam and want to use Steam have an actual gaming PC, and no need for a gaming only dedicated box, but people who don't want to deal with setting up and using a PC, they know Xbox so they are going to buy whatever the Series X is regardless of how comparable it is to PC and Steam. Objective quality isn't as important as familiarity.
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eb0f89 No.16879555
>>16879524
Again there is literally no invective to own a fucking xbone cuck series, If the games go on steam like they've been doing so already then there is no point of owning it since
>You don't have to fork over shekels for Xbonelive since other then your service provider you won't be paying for playing online
>The base on PC is much larger then xbone these days since the dumpster fire that was 2013 killed much of the brand's momentum
>Mod support
>PC's hardware upgradability
Even ignoring Windows 10's cancer what is really the invective to the Xbox platform/Brand at this point when M$ themselves pretty much sabotaged it with all of the PC ports?
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49ed7d No.16879563
>>16879552
Y'know speaking of, now that Proton plays nearly fucking everything that developers go out of their way to fuck up specifically, now would be a pretty good time to relaunch steam boxes.
Well, either now or when they finish Steam Controller 2
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1b4a34 No.16879564
What I find the most interesting is how proud and out there Microsoft is with this shit.
>Hey, here's our fucking console, it's cool, it does cool shit, buy it.
Whereas Sony has been hush-hush. They might be confident but I'm more inclined to believe they're just scared of something. There were rumors that they were struggling to pick hardware and a price point that would rival the Series X, so I wonder if that, alongside Coronachan shortages, have something to do with it.
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eb0f89 No.16879568
>>16879564
You have a very good point Anon Sony has been quiet as a mouse.
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49ed7d No.16879573
>>16879564
Considering how lackluster the ps4 has been, especially considering how much worse consumer wise compared to the ps3 (no backwards compatibility until they realized they couldn't use it as ransom for PSnow and even then they only put out a tiny few ps2 games, paid online for no fucking reason even though they were already guzzling down shekels on ps+ subscriptions anyway iirc double dipping if you wanted to play a PS3 game online despite ps3 online play being free, removing Directinput controller support meaning you're straight up fucked if the PS4 controller ever goes out of production, nearly the only games worth playing on it being remakes), it's probably best they keep quiet. Even if they announce tomorrow they're backpedaling on most of the garbage they did last gen it'd probably fuck them up.
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77980c No.16879576
>>16879546
>I never understand why MS didn't just go with Xbox 360 > Xbox 720 > Xbox 1440 or something like that.
because those are retarded names. They could have kept the codenames (scarlett, scorpio, etc.).
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a19771 No.16879577
>>16879408
>You can build a rig for 600$ that can run majority of games 1080p 60 FPS and you can always upgrade to better parts latter down the line.
That's beyond the point. This console could easily run just about anything at 4k 60 FPS since the Xbox One X already can do that now thanks to optimization. Try to fit a Ryzen 3700, RX 5700 and 1tb NVME SSD under $700 (what I imagine is the top end of what this thing will cost, although I am still set at $549 or $599.) This is just a quick PCPartPicker I tossed together of mostly the cheapest parts. You can be a bit more liberal and remove up to $100 with sales and by choosing the actual cheapest, then add that back again when you count that I didn't add everything else you need like the case, monitor or power supply. You're still forgetting beyond that, that people who buy consoles aren't people who would know or care about how to build their own PC either, and if they went the prebuilt route you can add on an extra $100 or $200. There isn't much overlap in markets.
>Not wholly as AMD has been making more cores available to the mainstream, but I do agree people are way too optimistic.
"Ryzen made 6 and 8 core cheap" is just a false statement when Intel was going to release 6 and 8 core chips anyway in the same year in similar price categories. Fair enough that they're putting major punches in the HEDT space.
>And most of those games you can play on PC due to ports or emulation 4FREE to boot.
Not Xbox or Xbox 360 games, you can't. Or Xbox One games, but no one cares because that has so few exclusives.
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77980c No.16879582
>>16879564
>Whereas Sony has been hush-hush
Sony follows, that was always their way of thinking. The PS4 was supposed to have a Kinect-like device but it got scrapped at the last minute during E3 after they saw the poor reception of the Xbox One conference.
The fact that they're so scared of talking about the price says a lot.
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eb0f89 No.16879588
>>16879577
>This console could easily run just about anything at 4k 60 FPS since the Xbox One X already can do that now thanks to optimization.
I highly doubt and if it is it's checkerbox rendering.
>just a false statement when Intel was going to release 6 and 8 core chips anyway in the same year in similar price categorie
No they fucking weren't! If AMD didn't drop the bombshell it did in 2017 intel would still be selling us fucking quad cores with us maybe seeing six cores now.
>Not Xbox or Xbox 360 games, you can't
Yes you can and it's been a thing for years due to ports and while not 100% emulation has been a thing for 360 games.
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d5125c No.16879591
>>16879582
>Sony follows
THIS
>SNES had shoulder buttons
<PS1 had 2 pairs of shoulder buttons
>N64 had analog control and rumble pack
<PS1 had dualshock
>Wii had the Wiimote
<PS3 had sixaxis and PSmove
>Xbox had a modem and Xbox live
<PS3 had a modem and PS+
>Nintendo DS had the touch screen
<PSVita had that touch screen on the back
>Wii U came with an extra screen
<Sony began talking about linking the Vita and PS3
i could go on but you get the point
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a19771 No.16879592
>>16879582
>Sony follows, that was always their way of thinking.
I'm pretty certain Sony announced the PS4 first. I think their current showing is a bit out of fear, the PS4 Pro was a piece of shit compared to the Xbox One X. Microsoft can, and clearly does, beat Sony in the hardware game now.
>The PS4 was supposed to have a Kinect-like device
It did. It was called the PS4 Camera.
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77980c No.16879604
>>16879592
>Microsoft can, and clearly does, beat Sony in the hardware game now
I agree. Now it's all about the philosophy behind making the games that will run on their console. They've acquired a bunch of studios, I hope they don't turn them into Rare clones with all the poz ("diversity" crap) that has infected 99% of their studios.
On Sony's side, we know what they want to do: cinematic experiences.
If only Nintendo would grow a pair and make a proper console, that would be nice.
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fc7ccd No.16879606
>>16879564
Wouldn't surprise me that Sony's specs are near 1:1 the same as Microsoft's. It will be funny to see retards on both sides try to claim their company has more power when both may as well come from the same factory.
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49ed7d No.16879607
>>16879604
I'm not super into the idea of nintendo making a "proper console" I think the handheld niche thing is one of the few things that makes it worth having along side a pc.
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03dec9 No.16879610
>>16879576
They are, but still less retarded than naming the third generation console as Xbox ONE. If normalfags bought into that, I don't see why they wouldn't buy into retarded numbering schemes.
The codenames would've been better, I agree.
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a19771 No.16879612
>>16879588
>I highly doubt and if it is it's checkerbox rendering.
See any number of Xbox One exclusives for yourself, Forza being the most notable. 4K native with 60 FPS can and is done very easily. Even more easily now with the upcoming gen having effectively twice the power.
>No they fucking weren't! If AMD didn't drop the bombshell it did in 2017 intel would still be selling us fucking quad cores with us maybe seeing six cores now.
First gen Ryzen was no bombshell, Intel had slated mainstream 6 cores for late 2017 for a good while.
>Yes you can and it's been a thing for years due to ports and while not 100% emulation has been a thing for 360 games.
Xbox emulation barely exists, 360 emulation is shit. Claiming ports is a dodge, and many games were never ported. Xbox 360 emulation is buggy as hell and can't struggle through 90% of games.
>>16879604
>On Sony's side, we know what they want to do: cinematic experiences.
That's a nice way to say walking simulators. The only good game Sony has is Gran Turismo. I guess normalfags eat up cinematic experiences like hotcakes, and that's all that matters.
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1b4a34 No.16879613
>>16879606
Most likely, but I assume the Series X might be cheaper, that's Sony's problem. Microsoft can sell it at cost and eat the loss, they're fucking Microsoft. Sony can't do that. I assume Microsoft might also give away Gamepass with every Series X, or sell it for a dollar again to incentivise people to buy it.
>>16879610
Numbering scheme reminds me of the Atari 2600 -> 5200 -> 7800.
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d5125c No.16879628
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>>16879592
>Sony announced the PS4 first
but did they show any specs before Microsoft did?
i remember that E3 when MS shot itself in the dick with the mandatory DRM, always on Kinect and all the kikery it took to borrow a game leading to Soyny making one of the most epic burns in the industry
>Microsoft can, and clearly does, beat Sony in the hardware game now.
the PS3 was the only time this wasn't the case but the only noticeable difference is that the PS3 didn't had anything like the RRoD but it was harder to code for
>>16879604
>If only Nintendo would grow a pair and make a proper console
the only reason why Nintendo makes gimmicky consoles with weaker hardware and a metric fuck ton of jewery like the Miis is because they hate piracy like /pol/ hates the jews
besides, they know they can't compete with 2 corporate giants like Soyny and Microsoft in hardware development budget so they go for cheaper price and exclusive games instead
if they ever made a console similar to what Soyny and Microsoft do, not only would they not sell nearly as many consoles as they are currently selling but they would also have to deal with PCs eating all their exclusives either through multyplat deals or emulators
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77980c No.16879633
>>16879613
> Microsoft can sell it at cost and eat the loss, they're fucking Microsoft.
Yeah, I think they're going to sell the console at a lower price and get the money via the peripherals like the SSD memory card thing made by Seagate.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if one day they decide to make the Xbox Live free and put everything on the Game Pass system.
>>16879610
>but still less retarded than naming the third generation console as Xbox ONE.
I guess they called it the Xbox One because it was a media center.
>>16879628
I'd like to play Nintendo games but I don't want to play them on a fucking tablet.
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eb0f89 No.16879635
>>16879612
>See any number of Xbox One exclusives for yourself, Forza being the most notable. 4K native with 60 FPS
It's called Checkerbox rendering it's not true 4k gaming and you're making a lot of excuses for Xbone.
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fc7ccd No.16879637
>>16879633
That Switch emulator, Yuzu, is going along pretty well that you will never need to touch a Switch.
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d5125c No.16879640
>>16879633
>I'd like to play Nintendo games but I don't want to play them on a fucking tablet.
isn't the tablet thing just a gimmik? i don't own neither a Switch nor Wii U but for what i know the tablet is mostly used to display menus and shit, i don't remeber seeing many games where you had to use the thing
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1b4a34 No.16879645
>>16879640
For the Switch, the tablet is the main console. You put it in a dock and it outputs to a TV, or take it out and play it portably. There's tablet-exclusive features (the touch screen, mainly) and this means there are tablet-exclusive games (like Brain Age) but it's mostly entirely avoidable, you can dock it and play it normally.
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77980c No.16879650
>>16879640
The tablet is the console.
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119e69 No.16879660
>>16879640
>>16879650
The tablet came with the Wii U, but most developers just used it the same way they used the DS touch screen. as a Map or Quick item select, the main gimmick is if someone wanted to use the TV you can just use only the Wii U gamepad screen.
For the Switch, the Tablet is basically just a bigger more powerful Gameboy that you can plug into your TV. The Switch is basically just what the Wii U should have been form the start, Since you can use the Wii U the exact same way as a switch if you just have a potable power source, in a backpack or something.
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f0f1a2 No.16879673
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a19771 No.16879977
>>16879635
>It's called Checkerbox rendering it's not true 4k gaming and you're making a lot of excuses for Xbone.
It's not. Forza Motorsport 7 runs at native 4k 60 FPS. There's plenty of native resolution 4k games on One X, the hardware is plenty powerful enough.
Checkerboarding is no longer regularly used. There's other more complex forms of resolution scaling used these days.
I don't get why people are butthurt about dynamic resolution scaling to begin with, I wish PC games had it more often and I could just toggle a driver-level box to scale my game's resolution to hit a target. You don't really notice the difference in actual gameplay in decent implementations and it's a very simple way to save some cycles.
>waah waah it's less detail
Yeah, know what else is? LOD models, culling and shadow resolution scaling. Yet those are extremely common, well accepted and have been done since the late 90s.
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eb0f89 No.16879999
>>16879977
>It's not. Forza Motorsport 7 runs at native 4k 60 FPS. There's plenty of native resolution 4k games on One X, the hardware is plenty powerful enough.
>the hardware is plenty powerful enough.
>He is seriously trying to pull the Xbone x can play "actual 4K" when it's just dynamic resolution scaling and other trickery
It's not actual true 4K gaming just like how the PS4 pro doesn't have true 4K gaming. Like did Phil give you a check to shill? Because good lord you are defending and making some hardcore excuses for it.
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8e36b6 No.16880000
>>16879628
>the PS3 was the only time this wasn't the case
This meme's gone on long enough; the massive amount of third party games that ran worse on PS3 than 360 is enough to show what nigger rigged piece of hardware the PS3 was.
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8e36b6 No.16880006
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>>16879447
>>16879447
>>16879470
>>16879534
I'm sorry you're fucking blind.
>most multiplats the best version was frequently on the Gamecube or PS2
lol sure they were nigger.
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a0629f No.16880009
>>16879199
What the fuck is the point of buying another Xbawks at this stage?
>>16879355
Nice fucking dubs. Now check my singles
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6cc716 No.16880010
>>16879628
Ps3 had equivalent YLoD issues until they moved to the slim models. The only difference is that it got less media attention so it seemed like a lesser issue. RRoD was also acknowledged as a product defect so which entitled you to renumerations in the form of console repairs/replacements which for the PS3 if you were out of warrantly, YLoD would leave you SoL.
>>16880000
good quads
>>16880009
Faster loadtimes? Otherwise, who cares. Consoles will always lag behind PCs when it comes to performance.
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8e36b6 No.16880025
>>16880009
Impressive, very nice.
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a86eed No.16880034
>>16879534
>there were some games where the PS2 port was lazy as fuck compared to the XBOX
such as?
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5933aa No.16880046
>>16879199
Great hardware by the looks of it, one wonders how they will fuck it up like RROD or online only milking hijinks. With Sony going the way of the soy, Xbox could stand to get raunchy as possible to signal they aren't trying to socially condition their "player$". Then, all that would be left to be assured profitable would be to release at least one great game that doesn't depend on servers and dlc.
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b72bb3 No.16880068
>>16880046
RROD seems unlikely due to how the system is built with cooling in mind. That's the main reason why they can have the GPU clocks at near PC speeds. They'll get greedy and pull some post launch fuckery though, that much is assured.
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f81165 No.16880091
>Year of our Lord
>2000 fucking 20
>Giving a flying fuck about cucksoles when everything is either getting ported or emulated
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49ed7d No.16880108
>>16880091
Let me know how well, xbox emulation is going nigger, and how easy of a time it is getting a full iso set. You sand chewing retard.
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d95ce1 No.16880113
>>16880108
>Not chewing sand to sharpen the teeth
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998edc No.16880190
>>16880091
>playing videogame
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447364 No.16880193
>>16880108
Is there even one bawks exclusive worth emulating? Serious question
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f0a2c8 No.16880196
>>16880091
We can't expand the list of incidents from the past century. Cover up the 'during the 20th century' part, it's a stupid mistake.
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1a2ba8 No.16880225
>>16880193
JSRF
XBOX's Splinter Cell Double Agent
Breakdown
Kung Fu Chaos
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8cffd6 No.16880232
>>16880225
>Steel Battallion
>Mech Assault 1 & 2 (2 mainly for the multiplayer, it had VTOL aircraft that could carry small mechs and power armor, stealthing tanks for causing mechs to trip by shooting them in their legs, a bunch of other shit I forget)
>Brute Force (maybe)
>Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball
>Blinx: The Timesweeper
Pretty much only original xbox's stuff.
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edfe74 No.16880238
>>16880232
Dont forget Idolm@ster games on both the Xboxhueg and 360
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480fb8 No.16880240
>CTRL+F Phantom Dust
<Phrase not found
Good grief, what happened to this site? At least two people mentioned Breakdown on the OG Xbox
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84f5c0 No.16880312
>4k in 60fps
<with those specs
Not in a million fucking years.
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8e36b6 No.16880402
>>16880193
>>16880225
>>16880232
Really niggers are you even trying?
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
>Otogi 1 and 2
>Gun Valkyrie
>Crimson Skies
>Ninja Gaiden Black
>Amped and 2
>Dead or Alive Ultimate
>Ghost Recon 2 + Summit Strike
>Midtown Madness 3
>Phantom Crash
>PGR 1 and 2
>Quantum Redshift
>ToeJam & Earl III: Mission to Earth
>Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x
>Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
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49ed7d No.16880409
>>16880402
TJ&E 3 kinda sucked, plus the only way you can play the whole game now is to find a disc that has the "DLC" on it.
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238c3b No.16880461
>>16880312
upscaled 4k output is 4k ;^)
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f81165 No.16880463
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f81165 No.16880465
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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eb0f89 No.16880478
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49ed7d No.16880482
>>16880463
>UWP
>Literally the shit microsoft shit out to try and regrasp at their monopoly.
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49ed7d No.16880485
>>16880402
>That fucking guy that got so mad at that picture
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f81165 No.16880490
>>16880485
Anyone have the one with the Japanese cosplay whore and her crooked tooth?
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1a49ca No.16880502
>>16880490
gotchu fam. extra bonus screecaps incoming
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f81165 No.16880503
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8e58f0 No.16880521
>>16879199
nVidia gets a lawsuit over RAM with different clock speeds, but Microsoft gets a pass, huh?
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1b4a34 No.16880528
>>16880521
EIther Microsoft's really nickel and diming to cut costs or it's just that the six gigs will be specifically dedicated to the OS, making clips, network features and that suspend feature. Probably both.
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a18cf5 No.16880539
I won't care unless I can take any original xbox game and run it off the disc without any problems.
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56660a No.16880610
>>16879479
Holy fucking fuck anon, I´ve been looking for this fucking Breakdown game for 15 years +, only remember some really intriguing stuff about it I read in the xbox zine back in the day. Only specific thing I remember is the name of that sidekick chick Alyx, one of my first boners IIRC
Thanks so much mate, didnt think Id ever see the day of finding this shit.
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119e69 No.16880631
>>16880610
You can thank other anons for keeping games memory alive too, since I only played Breakdown due to the fact it was frequently brought up when there was a discussion about God Hand.
Like I said there are probably hundreds of OG Xbox games that hardly anyone remembers. Grabbed by the Ghoulies, is only remembered due to the fact it's the Rare game infamous for the fact Nobody played it. The only reason I actually did play it was just because I was going though Rare Replay, and Playing Every Rare game in the collection just for the hell of it. Grabbed by the Ghoulies ended up being the game in the whole collection I the most surprised by how fun and charming it actually was, since my expectations were almost in the negative due to the box art just not looking great imo.
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eb0f89 No.16880729
>>16880631
>Grabbed by the Ghoulies
I actually saw this game at Zeller's Any fucking leaf here knows that store. back in the day.
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72da30 No.16880899
>>16880528
2.5gb for OS, 3.5gb for general use at limited speed with 13.5gb total available for games. Honestly surprised they kept the bloat at the same level as current gen without expanding further.
>>16880539
Won't happen. Better keep your HUEG in top condition or you'll be left with 360s mediocre emulation for more obscure gems like Phantom Crash which runs like shit on 360
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3bf9ac No.16881138
>>16879225
What if you put an SSD on the Xbone?
>>16879260
You haven't seen shit yet, my cousin's xbone has 4-6+ minutes loading time to play GTA V online
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98ea93 No.16881241
jokes on all you consolefags, Coronachan is going to ensure you never get any of them. She's destroyed the part supply chains. Even if they do go ahead I doubt they'll be able to do it for the price point.
Consolefags BTFO.
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fc7ccd No.16881250
So Sony is apparently finally going to reveal their specs today at 9am pacific time in a livestream. Maybe finally see what it is supposed to look like. Doubt they'll talk about price since it'll be the thing that kills the system.
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1d530c No.16883860
>>16879208
Like you would have bought one if there were any to begin with
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f6387e No.16883874
>>16879382
>opinion of people with tiny cuck hands
>only balding gen Xers play side scrollers, shmups and fighting games
>factually incorrect
>I also love non-replaceable proprietary things
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4bb0be No.16886869
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18306d No.16887424
>>16879199
>16GB GDDR6 for both system and VRAM
Why do they keep doing this? Doesn't this just create latency and cripple the GPU?
>7nm enhanced
Interesting. So I guess this confirms 7nm+ for Big Navi and the seXbox Zen 2 is an updated version compared to the desktop Zen 2?
>1TB expansion
Pathetic. That'll only be 8-20 extra games for probably 200-250 dollars if it's also a PCI-E gen4 NVMe like the PS5.
>Target performance 60fps
So console plebs will finally have games that run at playable framerates. It only took them 2 fucking decades.
>No hyperthreading at max frequency but is available if 200MHz lower
Why? Why not just have it opportunistically boost to 3.8GHz and sustain at 3.6GHz? Turning SMT off just so you can get hihg speedz is fucking retarded and will kneecap performance.
>hardware accelerated DXR
Guess this means ray-tracing in Big Navi is pretty much confirmed although I don't think it will be mind blowing until the generations after. The only major concern I have for ray-tracing is that visuals will become more homogenized than "ultra realism" rat race has done already with lazy devs using it just so they can have free lighting.
>>16879208
>>16879518
>>16880091
Hardware and service homogenization is the reason consoles need game exclusives. Instead of asking what new games you can add to the growing list of Xbox games you'll never buy because you're on PC or never be able to play again because you're a stupid fucking cunt that spent 60 dollars to never be able to play it after the platform dies, ask instead why they can't add in interesting hardware acceleration or some innovative and compelling service.
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA
NINJA GAIDEN SERIES
FABLE SERIES
KINGDOM UNDER FIRE SERIES
LOST ODYSSEY
GEARS OF WAR SERIES
JET SET RADIO FUTURE
BLOOD WAKE
DINO CRISIS 3
it's a guilty pleasure no bully
FUCK YOU STUPID CUNTS AND YOUR (((EXCLUSIVES))) I WILL NEVER STOP BEING MAD ABOUT THIS
>>16879386
>Zen 2+
They have confirmed it's a straight up Zen 3 with TSMC's 7nm+ EUV Lithography (3d stacking). It will also feature a new Epyc generation so expect the same binning strategy as this gen where you're getting a mediocre CPU at top shelf pricing.
>they said Zen 2 will have 8 cores on the 3600
No one at AMD said that. The only people saying that were people either speculating or one of the people reporting on/releasing leaks like AdoredTV. AMD may have been thinking of it originally but probably decided that there's no need for the R3 sku which are now APUs , mainstream doesn't need 8 cores, and M A R G I N S.
>12 cores is hopelessly optimistic
nigger there's already 12 cores on desktop for 400-500 bucks
>b-but who will pay for it
the same retards that payed 400-500 bucks for Intel's i7s for the last 5-6 years
>hopeless optimism
Ryzen since gen 1 has had Intel playing catchup by
>pulling the ConLake Conjob to make 7th gen look much better than it actually was
>releasing i9 to compete with the new core counts
>upping core counts on i5s and i7s
>reducing prices on older CPUs to get more sales
>nigger rigged a server CPU that required a 1600 watt cooler just to have something to compete for bulk buyers only :^)
If you're referring to the GPU side I'd agree, but the CPU optimism is based on clear and recent successes in the last 2-3 years. also AMD could have easily done all that stuff if they weren't a company currently focusing on margins and share prices. Never trust a corporation.
>>16879588
He's not entirely wrong as Intel was apparently already getting software devs to utilize multi-core since the stone of single core IPC and frequency gains was bled dry long ago.
>>16880631
>Grabbed By The Goulies
MY. FUCKING. NIGGA
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5a53fc No.16887478
>500+ dollarydoos for a shitty pc
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18306d No.16888380
>>16887478
>shitty pc
>1tb NVMe SSD
>R7 3700X equivalent CPU
>3 tflops more than 5700xt
>shitty pc
They'll still be well behind pcs once rtx 3000 series and big navi comes out but this is the closest the performance gap has been in decades.
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9fe34c No.16888413
>>16887478
>personal computer
a computer isn't personal if you can't change the OS
>>16888380
a cheap computer that only runs games is way less valuable than a PC that costs maybe $200 more.
cost != value
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