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File: ebb9a97f120672c⋯.png (19.04 KB, 993x1068, 331:356, Pikachu (female).png)

ff2e20  No.16847697[Last 50 Posts]

Which video game retcon do you have the most irrational hatred for?

For me, it would have to be the introduction of gender differences in Pokemon design specifically as it applies to Pikachu. I think the heart shaped tail doesn't fit the lightning motif of the base of the tail and tries too hard to make Pikachu cute. It seems to me that the reason why Pikachu took off with so many people was because it could be as cool or as cute as needed without looking like it tries too hard towards either end. Boys could look at it and see a creature that could zap things with lighting with a tail that communicates it clearly and girls could look at the cheeks of Pikachu or its proportions and view it to be a cute Pokemon. Female Pikachu tries to appease the latter group but tries a bit too hard towards that end and minimizes the appeal towards the former group. At least there's always Raichu. Too bad Gamefreak hates Raichu.

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8398b5  No.16847703

File: 7b5a82e85c9d11a⋯.gif (1.75 MB, 304x382, 152:191, yanderespin.gif)

>>16847697

>Sperging out over a tail

Just like Chris Chan sperging out over blue arms

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000000  No.16847708

When I saw retcon and Pokemon I fully expected a rant about the parallel universe bullshit gen6 introduced, but Pikachu tail autism is definitely more interesting.

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ff2e20  No.16847720

>>16847703

Flattering, but Chris Chan has achieved a much higher tier of tism and spergery than I can aspire to. It's like comparing your friend who is good at art to Picasso.

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dffa38  No.16847735

File: d3c248ca10c66a1⋯.jpg (105.89 KB, 600x764, 150:191, localization.jpg)

hard to choose when basically anything foreign is changed to suit westerners delicate sensibilities these days and I have to deal with it because I share a language with you fucks

I would much rather be on the other side having the forced diversity you put in all your media removed to better suit an eastern audience but instead all my media has to be feminist approved like the western version of dead or alive specifying that marie is 18 so all the american men brainwashed by feminism can masturbate to her without flagellating themselves afterwards

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db79ed  No.16847736

>>16847703

>Sperging out

This is probably the most relaxed rant I've read on this site so far.

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5fb5e6  No.16847747

>>16847697

>Which video game retcon do you have the most irrational hatred for?

The Zelda split-timeline bullshit.

Just let each major game (LOZ, ALTTP, OOT, TP, BOTW, et al) be its own stand-alone retelling of the same myth.

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df5c09  No.16847749

>>16847747

The timeline is considered unofficial and was only put out to shut up faggots that kept asking about what the "canon" timeline was, only a handful of games actually feel like they lead into each other.

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653f22  No.16847774

yes

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783dab  No.16847780

Basically any of the """lore""" in Shin Megami Tensei 4 Apocalypse. It tries to give an explanation as to why demons exist in 4/4A but it isn't even consistent with itself. Even worse, because of the fanservice DLC with the previous protagonists, faggots try to apply it to the whole series and make up Zelda timeline bullshit

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d90229  No.16847835

File: ec63a46b5bf59fc⋯.png (521.2 KB, 821x623, 821:623, 5.png)

>>16847697

>Which video game retcon do you have the most irrational hatred for?

Not "Irrational", but any and all lewd clothing retcons made in games translated from Japanese. You can show someone getting their guts ripped out all damn day long but god forbid you show some cleavage or thigh.

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e78bf6  No.16847841

Any retcon gets me mad, the more obvious the worse.

Most annoying is when they do to force a continuation to extract shekels so they simply nullify whatever have happened in the first game.

SH ends with the city being destroyed/purged/finished, it should end there.

RE the same, ends is the destruction of T-Virus, the 2 also ends with a nuclear purge.

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542535  No.16847855

>>16847747

Most Zelda games are pretty clear where they were intended in the timeline. Zelda II is a clear sequel, ALttP is a clear prequel, OoT is another obvious prequel, MM is a sequel, WW spelled out blatantly how the split timeline now works, etc. The issue comes with the three timelines clearly only existing so that one isn't far longer than the other, and the what should be separate Four Swords trilogy being shorhorned in at random places. It should have been either first or not included, but Minish Cap was put second because Skyward Sword's whole shtick is being the first one and Four Swords Adventures was placed at the end because that Ganon can't come before OoT Ganon because again, Nintendo wants that to be the first one.

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faf1f4  No.16847857

File: c23ae6ddb95db78⋯.jpg (265.98 KB, 500x1000, 1:2, b055d3dca0b944f8c64cae3395….jpg)

>>16847697

>Too bad Gamefreak hates Raichu.

Probably since Raichu is the evolves form of their beloved mascot. They'd never want to give up a Pikachu to show one off, not to mention the first Raichu shown in the anime was rough and tough and beat the crap out of Pikachu. A shame, since Raichu can be every bit as cute.

Also the heart tail on female Pikachu turns me on.

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00341b  No.16847859

File: a694433fff712e7⋯.jpg (48.29 KB, 750x563, 750:563, 1364933038623.jpg)

Oh look, another gender-issue thread on /v/.

Fuck you all, this board is now officially /faggotry/.

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73fb8b  No.16847899

File: 41926081a21590f⋯.jpg (162.33 KB, 526x422, 263:211, wargrey.jpg)

>>16847697

Female pika didn't get the fucking retarded heart tail until gen 6, which is also when they started forcing pikachu's anime cry into the games. Gen 5 was the last gen that's not literal garbage, just barely.

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29a213  No.16847913

>>16847899

Pokemon gender differences were added in gen 4, including Pikachu's. That said, most differences are minor at best and you wouldn't notice them unless you were looking for them. Except for Hippowdon whose different coloring makes you think the thing is shiny until you realize the disappointing truth.

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2ba588  No.16847926

>>16847697

X-Com being rebooted takes the cake for me.

Original:

>Aliens caught probing around Earth

>They're ramping up an 'invasion'

>Japan creates their own anime task force to deal with it but fail to catch a single UFO

>Every country throws in with a unified project

>Extraterrestial Combat Unit (X-Com)

>Defeats alien commander within the solar system

>Technological jump and a reliance on Elerium puts X-Com to the task of scouring UFO wrecks/Mars for leftover E115

>X-Com funding is over

>Bill Gates buys X-Com with the clause that the government can (and will) take it back if they feel like it

>Puts X-Com equipment to the task of salvaging E115 from sunken UFOs and general underwater research

>Dormant alien projects awaken and X-Com is put to the task of ending the aliens

>This time, alien defeat involved the destruction of an enormous 'colony ship' in the Gulf of Mexico

>It's destruction pollutes the entire planet, releasing toxic gas and radioactive particles

>Meanwhile, X-Com is putting down riots on Mars colonies because they need the money

>Cult of Sirius behind most of the discontent, believing that the aliens were divine beings and that humans really fucked themselves

>End up selling off their assets and flying out into space to protect newly discovered Elerium sources - which were adjacent to the first alien menace

>Arcologies like Mega Primus start to pop up on Earth

>Dimension gates appear and a new alien threat emerges

>Cult of Sirius gets super erect and appears en-masse to start converting people and worshipping aliens

>Government recreates the X-Com project

>Turns out all of the 'aliens' are just bioengineered husks of their former species

>True alien threat are microscopic organisms that are mindcontrolling the hosts

>Their planet is dying so they're trying to occupy Earth

>X-Com flies through the dimension gates and systematically dismantles all of the alien habitats before leaving their dying planet to rot

>Meanwhile, the other X-Com in deep space shoots a fucking atom bomb into the sun of the Ethereal home planet

XCOM Reboot

>Aliens attempted a complete invasion dozens of years before the main series and nobody remembers

>Meme-tier plot about how a rogue Ethereal was the player all along

>Ethereals perform a direct invasion decades later

>Bare minimum of preparations were made despite full knowledge of an alien invasion occuring

>The game is actually a fever dream - a retcon of a reboot

>The commander of XCOM was a mighty brain tactical genius who was captured by the aliens and put into a tank, where he commands the entirety of the alien invasion

>He thinks he's fighting aliens

>Alien-controlled Earth has regressed common technology to a disgusting level, despite advanced technology existing

>Ethereal goal is to bioengineer a super human to live inside of

The reboot had a worse story than Saturday morning 90s cartoons.

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ac03c9  No.16847945

>>16847926

>tfw Xpiratez has less retarded lore than the reboots

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d01564  No.16847956

File: 2bc5781fed7ab4d⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 732.98 KB, 1700x1700, 1:1, 2bc5781fed7ab4d4596d0af1e7….png)

>>16847857

imagine if they also gave her heartshaped pupils

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7e7e4a  No.16848005

Diablo. Every goddamn time it comes up I hear some retarded fanfic nonsense like

<did u kno that dekard kin was acually a diablo all along!?!?!1

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edc498  No.16848102

>>16847926

>reboot

What in the seven hells of fuck? When does that happen? I remember barely paying attention to the gay ass story, but I don't remember any of that.

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872bb7  No.16848114

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>Nobodies can regain/regrow their hearts, turning their goal to create an artificial Kingdom Hearts pointless

>destroying a nobody and its heartless reforms it back into its original self, meaning nobody's ever really gone

>all OrgXIII deaths mean nothing now

Kingdom Hearts should have ended at KH2FM.

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a1fbfe  No.16848116

>>16847697

Dragon Age retconning teleportation from being impossible to every enemy mage teleporting constantly (maybe not technically a retcon since in DA2 the book outlining teleportation's impossibility can still be read, but they just ignore it).

>>16847720

Ironic, considering Picasso wasn't good at art but was a huge autist.

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2e5e38  No.16848122

>>16848114

I never took the story in the games seriously so I find it fun how Nomura tries to explain shit usually making it more convoluted in the process. Probably why my favorite story is from Coded.

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8d7145  No.16848126

>>16848102

That includes the second game as well.

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60d12f  No.16848128

>>16848116

He's a meme artist that got memed so hard that people began to think he's popular for being a good artist rather than just being a strange one. Kids saying they want to be a great artist like Picasso is painful though.

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2d4e3e  No.16848141

>>16847859

pretty much, yeah

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d01564  No.16848143

>>16848116

>>16848128

was picasso the shadman of its era?

>audience: Picasso, Nay!

<Picasso: "Picasso, Aye!"

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22996d  No.16848153

File: 7da75bf5d75397a⋯.jpg (157.7 KB, 1364x768, 341:192, vance motherfucking stubbs.jpg)

DoW3 snatching the canonical victory of vance stubbs.

If you make it so the orks win DoW soulstorm, then DoW2, and therefore 3, cant happen, you incompetent, fake fucks, give the IG back its glory!

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ec5670  No.16848158

>>16847835

Don't you know anon? The only nudity allowed is in ""mature"" movies where it feels like a horny 14 year old's first foray into porn and Netflix interracial porn art.

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45148b  No.16848175

Retcons don't really bug me too much, it just gets me to ignore the story from that point on. Might be different if I played for the story.

>>16847708

>parallel universe bullshit gen6 introduced

Explain this, I pretty much stopped after gen 3.

>>16847747

>stand-alone retelling of the same myth.

That's pretty close to how I always viewed it.

>>16847703

>a well worded and explained paragraph of text

>this is just like Chris Chan attacking a gamestop

Go back.

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df5c09  No.16848212

File: 76b0b49a1f92411⋯.png (360.76 KB, 600x642, 100:107, Ork mug.png)

>>16848153

Well ya see 'ere, dem gitz just retroaktively waaagh'd 'istory so da orkz won while not breakin da time line, ya git.

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22996d  No.16848222

File: fa5da130d94db6f⋯.png (235.08 KB, 716x716, 1:1, concerned comissar.png)

>>16848212

Its in times like this that the ordo chronos suddenly exists and then doesnt.

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1669be  No.16848280

File: 9a4f1e0dd17c058⋯.jpg (315.45 KB, 1250x1126, 625:563, dubskull deffchekka.jpg)

>>16848222

>the ordo chronos suddenly exists and then doesnt.

cuz deyz got krumped

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75f4af  No.16848301

MGSV retconning Peace Walker, MGS1, 2 and 3 and MG1 and 2

Peace Walker

>undoing development of Big Boss and Kaz as well as Cancelling outer heaven and offering worse/no story in return

>lol real big boss fucked off for 11 years and built da reel outer kevin offscreen post-credits

>Kaz became an edgy cripple with a prolapsed anus whose first radio call is literally seething groans

>Huey became a cold-blooded sociopath, and everyone on mother base suffered a stroke

>let's just disarm invite inspection that wasn't planned, Big Boss and his Second in command can't do shit

>Let's memoryhole Metal Gear zeke, it sunk to the bottom of the ocean nobody ever found or recovered it ever

>Let's fish out magnetic-tape based electronics from Lake nicaragua long after they've been sunk, let's fish out the bandana too, after a decade

Metal Gear 1

>lmao it was a blow up doll of big boss all along you got baited and bamboozled

Metal gear 2: Solid Snake

>But wait, Big Boss, how did you survive previous gaem?

>I barely did, but I got out with some of the guys and kids during the NATO bombing

>it was a blow up doll lmao, 20 years old retcon

MGS1

>Genetics don't real Big Boss' DNA doesn't matter lmoa who gives a shit, any hobo off the street can become big boss with plastic surgery and audiobooks+coma

>Big Boss Huge Decoy hated me, and did all those things like trying to give me a normal life and not treating me like a test tube goop abomination

>Mantis used to be a literal god of destruction phasing matter and summining flaming whales but 20 years later he just throws furniture at you and reads your controller input

>wasting money on a non-0 amount of clones of big boss for muh soldier genes that apparently are nothing special compared to coma, plastic surgery and audiobooks

MGS2

>no need for S3 plan because they knew in LE 1984 that you can sell a lie of "u r big boss" to any retard meaning any other less extreme bullshit can be sold to society as a whole

>Emma Emmerich didn't write the AI's, Strangelove did, but she wrote them on the AI pod from peace walker, but the pod was with diamond dongs, and the pod had schizophrenia from functional compensation and being in lake nicaragua for too long

MGS3

>During either operation snake eater or virtuous misson there was a hungarian gypsy zombie who picks up your shit one screen behind you except

>Virtuous Mission was a complete failure and that was supposed to be 0 traces

>during Snake Eater Snake was supposed to leave traces of his presence like the plane, presumably casings and/or shit so KGB/whoever soviet has proof that boss didn't pull off another stunt betrayal and didn't kill all of them herself then faked her death/run away or anheroed

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143851  No.16848436

>>16848175

>Explain this, I pretty much stopped after gen 3.

He's a retard, it arguably has been something since the start of the franchise, started coming in more during Gen 3 (notably the differences between Ruby and Sapphire, and the differences between Gen 1 and their remakes), and is first explicitly brought up during a sidequest in Gen 5. The complaint he has about Gen 6 involves a crazy person and the plot setup for the first PMD so that's just bullshit, Gen 7 is way more explicit about it given there are actual wormholes you can actually travel through.

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143851  No.16848455

File: b0c81ce70b44fc4⋯.png (716 B, 160x80, 2:1, 025_Pikachu_Female_Back.png)

File: 088b27827d12d79⋯.png (646 B, 160x80, 2:1, 025_Pikachu_Female_Front.png)

File: 13d3a692cb197e2⋯.png (745 B, 160x80, 2:1, 025_Pikachu_Male_Back.png)

File: 4885faffcfc668c⋯.png (684 B, 160x80, 2:1, 025_Pikachu_Male_Front.png)

Also, OP, did you know about these sprites that might be from early in DP's development?

https://files.catbox.moe/te75ep.7z

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611c2a  No.16848457

>>16847697

The Surge 2 turned Jonah Gutenburg to some Muskesque super tech businessman out to change the world from the first game into a dumb nerdy know-nothing plot moving device in the second game. who looks like a jew. They changed the voice actors from a confident, probably aryan sounding guy too and gave him a half-nigger granddaughter, fugly as shit sin and has a full CGI cutscene to show it all off in, though at least she has his name so the jungle probably comes from her mother's side.

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df5c09  No.16848460

>>16848455

>ears down too

Thankfully they stopped at the heart tail

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143851  No.16848476

>>16848460

I genuinely think lop-eared Pikachu is kinda cute, but as like a different breed. Like you can't tell me people haven't tried making their own inbred abomination Pikachu in attempts to make them cuter.

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7a42bd  No.16848484

>>16847697

Why not just give them big hairy cocks and cunts? Or Poképoles and Pokéholes

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68ba75  No.16848486

File: 59a2ca211f35e2d⋯.jpg (46.33 KB, 320x486, 160:243, 1405450675467.jpg)

>>16848476

>Pugachu

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143851  No.16848488

>>16848486

They did it to Persian in Gen 6, although real life persian cats are just the pugs of cats, so I guess it's at least on theme.

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143851  No.16848489

>>16848488

>>16848486

Gen 7, I'm fucking retarded, not even dubs can save me

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7a42bd  No.16848495

File: 089ce7f6a209bdf⋯.jpg (202.58 KB, 1091x1600, 1091:1600, brugga.jpg)

>>16848484

check my sweet 84s

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0d42ef  No.16848510

Orcs becoming noble savages in WC3.

Qunari in DAI. Not nearly the unbending commie cunts they used to be from DAO/DA2.

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83228e  No.16848512

>>16847735

>…anything foreign is changed to suit westerners delicate sensibilities…

That's idiot SJWs virtue signalling and trying to get their narcissistic claws in anything that gives them a power-high.

Real westerners just want fucking fun games.

Furthermore, I have the opposite problem.

>Lazy translators or weebs leaving in dialogue in-jokes that nobody but the people who live there would get, rendering jokes and some puzzle clues require a guide or trial-and-error to get.

>Not giving dubs the time of day because of irrational weeaboo hatred towards anything not spoken in the language they fetishize- even if they're as faithful as possible to the old script.

>japanese game companies who try far too hard to appeal to western demographics and yet clumsily reveal just how japanese the game is.

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379e6b  No.16848527

File: 07a5c78986fb91a⋯.png (229.28 KB, 912x818, 456:409, yotsuba cumming.png)

>>16848455

>lop-ears and heart tail

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05b0c4  No.16848537

My hatred for retcons is not irrational

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d46d06  No.16848539

>>16848510

Everything after DAO was a mistake anyway. DA2's only slightly less shit than DAI because at least it has less pozz.

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dfd3a7  No.16848560

>>16848512

are the people here not examples of real westerners?

because I have to walk on eggshells all the time making sure anything I say suits your narratives to avoid getting banned and having all my posts deleted

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d166e5  No.16848573

>>16848569

not sure what that has to do with anything even if it was true

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92147a  No.16848583

>>16848512

I'm pretty sure weeaboos are the ones who consume dubbed media.

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34fda2  No.16848590

File: b3edf10d79d5e81⋯.png (35 KB, 184x208, 23:26, Cyrus_portrait.png)

>>16848153

Cyrus wasn't kidding when he said that Kaurava was a mistake.

Ignoring the "canon" of DoW3 Terminator armor can apparently do backflips now? Fuck off this game isn't canon, it makes perfect sense for Stubbs to be the canon victor.

>DoW2 Bluhd Rehvens are suspected of heresy for killing Lukas Alexander and his guardsmen on Kronus during Dark Crusade.

>Stubbs' regiment, hearing of the Blood Raven's potential treachery, prepares his regiment to deal with the Bald Ravens.

>Magpies are slapped by Stubbs, clearing the 257th's name by not only purging mad heretic and xeno ass, but slapping the shit out of Indrick "Peter Principle Incarnate" Boreale and in doing so, giving "proof" to the high lords that the Kleptomarines might be going rogue.

>Stubbs shoving a lighting claw up the Raven's collective asses would also give Cyrus extra cause to be bitter about Kaurava since he could see it as "karma" for what the Yoink Birdies did on Kronus

Gorgutz winning Kaurava would add next to nothing narrative-wise since it would make the whole campaign one big joke. Baldreale gets a third of the chapter krumped and the greenskins just demolish the fuck out of the rest of the sector, Necrons and all? tbh I could kind of buy that since every force commander in that expansion save for the Necron Lord seems to be short a few chromosomes, but still Eat shit, Relic.

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0d42ef  No.16848591

>>16848583

>I'm pretty sure weeaboos are the ones who consume dubbed media.

Haha.. I watch dubs, and mostly mainstream shit (not a weeb). I'm just lazy and like to have stuff in the background. Anime is decent and there's an endless pool of things to pass the time.

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611c2a  No.16848592

>>16848583

I'm a weeb that I've been watching subs for so long that once I forgot to enable them and I was still following most of the conversation. subs vs dubs is an ongoing debate but most people getting their feet wet with anime will be watching a dubbed version. The more obscure stuff doesn't even have official subs, much less a dub.

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5d4abf  No.16848609

File: 7aae31c30c1577e⋯.mp4 (213.93 KB, 988x720, 247:180, 7aae31c30c1577ef4b504e6be0….mp4)

>>16848590

I would have loved for DoW 3 campaign to have a different chapter than the klepto marines. I actually do like the blood ravens, but seeing them in most expansions I think Winter Assault had ultra smurfs? I don't remember too well, but even then, really, fucking ultra smurfs makes them really indigestible.

That being said, Soul Storm was a fucking train wreck on top of the little to no sense Dark Crusade campaign. I wish there were better reasons to have imperial factions killing each other, or making fucking friendly factions that you could turn and having a system on it, like being deemed heretic if you friend xenos. I don't know, both Dark Crusade and Soul Storm are very stupid lore wise, they feel lazy, they are somewhat good as "board domination" kind of deal, but I wouldn't consider ANYTHING after the original DoW canon, and that's very sad.

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9bef9b  No.16848614

>>16848476

It's inevitable that they'll resort to "breeds" of popular pokemon at some point. We already have regional variants. When they run out of creativity even more, we'll have greyhound Pikachus and retriever Pikachus and mastiff Pikachus or some shit to inflate the dex. This will probably coincide with the release of a "Pokemon Fancy" type of mobile game where you just breed pokemons for shows and agility competitions and shit.

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74553d  No.16848628

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>>16847697

should've just given pickachu boobs

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398ae7  No.16848633

>>16848614

They already had spiky eared Pichu that can't do fucking anything like the genetic dead end it is.

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5d4abf  No.16848660

>>16848633

I've been curious, how is spiky eared pichu handled in new pokemon games? Or special versions of pokemon like Eternal Flower Floette?

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ff2e20  No.16848664

>>16848455

I saw images based on that during my search for a good image to open the thread with, but was not aware of it prior. I think the whole ears down thing actually makes it look a bit less bad because it doesn't clash as hard with Pikachu's male design, but I still don't like the tail.

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34fda2  No.16848668

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>>16848609

Dark Crusade did have a reason for the Guard and the Mreens fighting one another though. The Ravens were on a mission to bury some dirty laundry of theirs Magnus daddy says hi that was on Kronus, but they needed every fucker there to get out first. Lukas had his orders to fix that shithole up and wouldn't leave. To withdraw from Kronus on orders of the Blood Ravens would look horribly on him. He abandons his post while some nobody chapter purges the place in order to hide some secret, that in Gabby Ann's own words, would get the chapter excommunicated on the spot if it got out? Alexander would end up before a firing squad before you could say "grimdark." Hell, it gets kind of emotional if you assault either of their strongholds as either faction, with both Thule and Lukas having utmost respect for one another and both basically pleading with each other to stand down before any more loyalist blood is needlessly shed and both men being too dedicated to their objective to quit.

Soulstorm, you could also make a case for loyalist infighting, but only for Stubbs. Stubbs has a reason to stop the blud ravens since they are suspected of heresy due to the Victory Bay massacre on Kronus and that the 257th Conservitors are on a shitlist for letting Kaurava get as bad as it did, so fighting the birdies is basically them protecting themselves from some misguided purge that, for all he knows, could just be the Ravens trying to heretic it up again, and clear his regiment's name in the process. Similar story for the Sisters. The Sisters are a bunch of batshit insane dick-deprived 3DPD who are there to burn Kaurava to ash due to all the aliens and heresy. Stubbs had every reason to protect himself and his men from a bunch of perma-menstruating Salamander-wannabes, doubly so since the Sisters start on the same planet as you in the campaign, therefore need to get removed first. Spess marine campaign was basically a campaign to get their strained honor back, led by an incompetent baldo fuck with a speech impediment. He has no reason to purge the guardsmen other than "THEY WEHR DERE WHEN HERESY STARTED THEAHFOAH THEY ARE ALSO HERESY" and lacked any of the manly sadness that Lukas and Thule had, his campaign being entirely self-serving and egotistical. Sisters however are utterly inexcusable. They are Khornate heretics in denial. They are in the unholy trinity of "Cancer that is Killing the Imperium" alongside the Inquisition and the AdMech. Fuck them; both figuratively and literally.

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5d4abf  No.16848694

File: f864c1d23bf2a42⋯.jpg (78.07 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 1437855559210.jpg)

File: b21f92d5366a315⋯.mp4 (2.56 MB, 640x360, 16:9, 1439557734494.mp4)

>>16848668

>Stubbs had every reason to protect himself and his men from a bunch of perma-menstruating Salamander-wannabes

Anon, I like Stubbs as much as anyone who played Soul Storm, but the guy was fucked. If you defy the sisters you were going to be deemed an heretic anyway. I'm bummed they didn't say what happened to Stubbs in DoW2 either. In fact, it's true that DoW2 says the space marines lost, but it didn't really confirm it was the IG that won the conflict, because even if he did win, he would become an enemy of the imperium, even if he opposed the klepto marines despite their heresy suspicions, it's just against the imperial cult rules. That's why I think Soul Storm is even more of a mistake, it doesn't only fail to provide a good excuse to have these 3 loyalists factions to fight one another Because even if I like Stubbs, even if he "wins", he'd lose, it wouldn't have any satisfying conclusion no matter who wins, because even if factions like the Sisters or the Orks wins, then what? The most intelligent thing Stubbs could have done was just fucking leave, there was no reason to stay in that shit hole of a system, specially when you have the likes of Boreale and Selena Agna in the same system. AND EVEN THEN! I'm sure the inquisition would somehow persecute him for leaving the system.

>They are in the unholy trinity of "Cancer that is Killing the Imperium" alongside the Inquisition and the AdMech

No shit. It also goes against everything the Emperor himself believed in. I love the theories that says that if the Emperor ever comes back, he is going to obliterate all this bullshit. But in a way, I understand why this is happening and I defend it, without the nonsensical belief of the Imperial Cult, it'd be easier for human kind of fall prey of chaos fuckery, because chaos IS lurking, but at the same time that same belief also feeds chaos and the emperor himself into becoming a god, and if the Emperor ever dies, there will be a new chaos god born from him and people's belief.

You can't type grimdark without "Catch 22".

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0d9f25  No.16848713

File: fd581c37ec8edca⋯.jpg (26.12 KB, 800x356, 200:89, operator.jpg)

File: 3a1473ed2668502⋯.jpg (273.43 KB, 1284x2047, 1284:2047, D0lvXNVX4AA1TRM.jpg)

File: 142f49e18c4b729⋯.png (2.82 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 142f49e18c4b729a56519ef3ab….png)

File: 0f0ba2304253a01⋯.jpg (316.12 KB, 1920x1017, 640:339, Warframe0189.jpg)

>i go the idea from guyver so you are just a human adult in a symbiotic suit made from metal that moves like flesh

>no wait you are a type of energy, a race of warriors lost to time, that control perma comatose flesh mechs

>no you are a child now cause i watched eva and that was pretty cool have fun with shitty coming of age shit for the next 5 years

>warframes are just a type of biosuit

>warframes are actually nothing but mentally dead humanoid flesh golems through extreme experimentation

<alright lets work with this

>makes a twin style warframe that can split and change between 2 different forms

>could have been a really cool concept for it's time

>unfortunately around this time bruce jenner was a thing

>devs back tracked so hard since they are moose fucking leafs they call both forms pr stated "female" despite the art teams efforts to clearly make the 2 forms sleek feminine and bulk masculine

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4e3f6f  No.16848731

>>16848660

spiky eared pikachu cant be transfered from HG/SS at all and eternal flower floette was never released but it doesnt matter because regular floette cant be transfered to SW/SH

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143851  No.16848743

>>16848614

I know there's some dumb Magikarp app that's that.

>>16848660

Eternal Floette hasn't been released yet, but I'm sure it's probably still in Home somewhere. There's dex entries for "omega_nx" and "alpha_nx" so who knows what that is.There's a goddamn pitch shifted Jynx cry that could really be anything. Home can even accept data from your PC if you know what you're doing (so for only the guy who's basically in charge of the Switch hacking scene knows what he's doing). Back to things that exist though, the only bullshit random Pikachu related form that can be transferred is the ones with the hats, probably because it was super easy to do compared to, say, Cosplay Pikachu (and the only reason Libre still shows up in anything is because it's basically just a texture).

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7df93a  No.16848745

>>16848713

Well they were kind of establishing the backstory for the first time so its not like it was a retcon. Besides doesn't the name warframe imply that its just a suit from the get go?

Mediocre story aside though I just like the idea of playing as an all powerful space loli kicking ass and didn't expect to see it come out of a western developer thats for sure. Its just a shame they completely forgot about them, like those hoverboards that you get from a clan of kids yet your operator can't even ride it, or the shawzin to play your own music that your operator can't use, beyond the plains bosses that plays out exactly the same every time theres just no reason to use the operator at all.

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5fb5e6  No.16848747

>>16847749

>The timeline is considered unofficial and was only put out to shut up faggots that kept asking about what the "canon" timeline was, only a handful of games actually feel like they lead into each other.

The timeline is "official" in that it's in the Hystoria, but the very next game with BOTW Aonuma admitted they didn't even bother thinking about the "official timeline" when they were writing the story.

So it's official, but it doesn't matter one fucking whit.

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edc498  No.16848749

>>16848745

>Well they were kind of establishing the backstory for the first time so its not like it was a retcon.

Don't entirely agree, but there is a 100% definite retcon in Warframe's lore, and it has to do with Dark Sector. Originally, Warframe was a direct sequel to Dark Sector, and that obviously implied some things about the inested/technocyte virus, the tenno, the reason they're even called the tenno, how warframes were created, etc.. And then, around the time the space lolis were becoming a thing, all of a sudden, Dark Sector was removed from Warframe's lore.

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0d9f25  No.16848751

File: 60d13347bb6c036⋯.png (1.71 MB, 1920x640, 3:1, darksector ship asset.png)

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>>16848749

>Dark Sector was removed from Warframe's lore.

and yet they keep reusing assets from it like its nothing. absolutely annoying. its fine though the game wont last a few more years at the rate its going. maybe god fall or anthem 2.0 will be a proper replacement.

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5fb5e6  No.16848756

>>16848751

I have no faith in Anthem 2.0, but there's Outriders I saw on Steam coming from Square Enix that looks like it fits in the same genre. Made by People Can Fly, so it could go either way.

I used to be so into Warframe but the game just got increasingly schizo with changing fucking everything and adding superfluous shit and dicking around with the lore from "space ninjas" based on the Dark Sector bad-ass to "child autists playing with dolls".

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efa368  No.16848989

File: 7ba6408672f088b⋯.png (349.39 KB, 360x450, 4:5, swole leon.png)

Resident Evil. Fuck Resident Evil. Fuck my life for being such a diehard fan faggot piece of shit. Fuck Capcom. Fuck whoever actually wrote Resident Evil, because it had to be 20+ people at this point.

Resident Evil in general has suffered so many fucking rewrites, heaven forbid you're in Latin America or China. You got a completely different set of Officially Licensed Resident Evil shit that doesn't even make sense when you put it into context with the official shit. The first set of Rewrites came with Code Veronica, when they changed Wesker's report. The original report had a lot of information about Nicolai and shit but no, they had to leave it ambiguous to his fate.

Then Resident Evil 0, while it gave us a funny in-joke , 5 games later. It introduced Billy while fucking up Rebecca's timeline. The logistics of Rebecca being powerless by the time she meets Chris is stupid if 0 is to be respected.

Ironically, Resident Evil Remake didn't fuck up the timeline and the new shit they added fit right in without any problems. Resident Evil 2 remake on the other hand, shits all over the timeline, redesigns a lot of the characters , completely fucks up the plot of Outbreak and messes with the timing completely.

The outbreak shit is simple.

>There are no giant insects or giant plants blocking anything in RE2 Remake because it's not realistic.

<Meanwhile, there's an entire G-nest and shit maze in the spacious sewer system.

>The Giant Plants and Giant Insects were the entire reason the Hive was locked down.

>In the original Leon and Claire had to fight their way through to get the keys they needed.

>In Outbreak, you had to fight your way through a moth's nest to pry a key out of a cold dead hand.

>If there are no giant plants or giant insects blocking shit, there was nothing to stop and encase dead workers.

Operation Racoon City, while not canon, actually let us witness the US Army setting up the railguns, why City Hall was on fire and other fun shit that we never got to see in Resident Evil 2/3/Outbreak. It even respected the fact that the Racoon PD blew up streets in Outbreak.

>We're the new Delta Team.

<What happened to the old Delta Team

>You didn't play Resident Evil 0.

<How the fuck did Sherry survive the sewers in Resident Evil 2 before she met Claire?

<Outbreak revealed the sewers were absolute hell.

>The Spec Ops guided Sherry to safety in the sewers before losing her.

It's stupid fan pandering that made me like ORC.

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b61f2b  No.16849003

>>16848989

Yeah, op racoon city wasn't a bad concept, just a mishandled mess. At least someone liked it, I guess - good for you

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22996d  No.16849052

>>16848590

The IGs ending is the only one in wich the blood ravens survive (atleast the ones in kaurava), all ofñthers have them wiped out.

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6ce8f1  No.16849093

>>16847697

>For me, it would have to be the introduction of gender differences

go back to playing temtem, tranny.

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2f90fa  No.16849120

>>16847697

>pikachu

any anon's here from where pikachu had the tip of its tail black?

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d01564  No.16849158

>>16849120

kantogang rise up

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6ce8f1  No.16849166

>>16848745

>>16848713

>>16848751

the worst part is that it retcons it game mechanics

something that felt good to pull off had to be downgraded and easier to pull off for fucking casuals.

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1627c7  No.16849182

File: 2a6d4692fb818f7⋯.png (225.74 KB, 622x494, 311:247, cyrodiil.png)

Cyrodiil not being a jungle and probably a lot more elder scrolls shit

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75f4af  No.16849241

>>16848512

>>Not giving dubs the time of day because of irrational weeaboo hatred towards anything not spoken in the language they fetishize- even if they're as faithful as possible to the old script.

I sure do love the vast roster of Yuri Loventhal, Nolan Baker, Troy North and Ashley Burch assaulting my ears, forever.

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359ab8  No.16849248

>Which video game retcon do you have the most irrational hatred for?

The tranny supposedly being responsible for the Rokkenjima murders. No, fuck you, r07, thats bullshit and you know it

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33a581  No.16849257

>>16849241

Isn't the ironic part about all that is that 4kids actually had a dozens of actors they did pull in due to being based in New York and having access to all the stage actors in the city?

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22996d  No.16849301

File: a97c2a5ea6e2cdc⋯.jpg (7.42 MB, 3541x5016, 3541:5016, rebecca RPD.jpg)

>>16848989

Anon, its a capcom game, the story its just there for fun, dont pay it too much attention and just enjoy as the world goes to shit due to constant bioterrorism that only the main characters can survive, also the constant no sex.

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2cf7ec  No.16849330

File: 7a491bb6bb5f2c1⋯.png (162.35 KB, 356x504, 89:126, 1494096360528.png)

>>16849182

Originally I kinda liked the idea of Talos literally retconning his own country to be a nice forest because he was sick of the jungle. Unfortunately with ESO Bethesda couldn't even be assed to make it a jungle in the before time, despite Daggerfall being around for their classic medieval needs.

What really pissed me off was how much they fucked over Morrowind and the Dunmer in later games just to keep the Empire still alive.

>oh you beat Dagoth ur and brought back unity to the factions in Morrowind?

>lolno Baar Dau crashes into Vivec and makes red mountain erupt despite the city being on the fucking coast

>you just fucked off to magical weeb country after the game so no leading the Dunmer into a golden age

>also morrowind gets raped by treenigger lizards because muh slavery metaphor

>dunmer are now just a rapefugee metaphor in skyrim

It's like they were givinng the finger to every person who ever enjoyed Morrowind.

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a9e3f3  No.16849342

File: 3a14030f978e7aa⋯.png (165.31 KB, 1600x1200, 4:3, doomguy.png)

File: 4d1ddc5ec84c8d1⋯.jpg (215.92 KB, 1200x744, 50:31, doom-eternal-4.jpg)

Doomguy going from "hard-knock marine with a sense of right and wrong, too fucking stubborn to die" to "unstoppable tryhard demigod in power armor endlessly sperging out in autistic rage". Bethesda's just making everything as dumb and masturbatory as possible.

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b85b2e  No.16849344

>>16847835

Not the same, unless guts being ripped out gives you an errection

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6e2d2f  No.16849652

File: f0d118cae111c26⋯.png (359.19 KB, 650x366, 325:183, doom slayer pc.png)

>>16849342

gaming pc lmao

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2cf7ec  No.16849664

File: 714effe9dabd878⋯.jpg (20.9 KB, 312x312, 1:1, 1459565509866.jpg)

>>16849342

How do you get "sense of right and wrong" from being more pissed off about his pet rabbit dying than humanity getting invaded by hell?

The problem with nuDoom, aside from the gameplay, was that they gave it a fucking story and said lol if you don't like it just ignore it.

Nobody ever gave a shit about Doom's story, it was the basic yet effective "you're a space marine go kill demons" setting that helped make it memorable. nuDoom shits on even that and tries to tell a story. You're not technically a space marine and the demons aren't technically from hell. It's just moronic.

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0d42ef  No.16849690

>>16849664

There was more thought on "story" originally, but Carmack hated it. He threw it out. He was just going for a vibe (Aliens meets Evil Dead 2).

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cd7da3  No.16849701

>>16849690

You're talking about that background lore about the reason for doomguy being sent to Mars was because he disobeyed orders to fire on civilians, right? Or is there more to it?

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0d42ef  No.16849708

>>16849701

I don't know the details. There was another dev (not Romero) who proposed some story.. and Carmack threw it out. All I remember is his quote about it.. where he mentioned something in an interview and compared to games to porn..and that stories were pointless.

Apparently, he still holds to it, as of 2018:

https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/1030511549688016899?lang=en

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e7ba0c  No.16849733

>>16849708

That guy was Tom Hall. The "Ideas Guy" of the Doom dev team.

He had some convoluted plot with multiple main characters and several set piece battles that would be impossible to do in a freaking 1993 FPS with an anemic 3-86 machine as it's target platform.

He managed to make some pretty neat levels before the other guys got enough of his bullshit a kicked him off the team.

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4004d6  No.16849773

File: 7ad4e4fa03ade84⋯.jpg (385.27 KB, 1600x1038, 800:519, Guts fanboy.jpg)

"MUH CYCLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!"

This horse shit ruined Dark Souls and subsequently any other game by FromSoft. You get these fucking "lore theorist" faggots that absolutely ruin any discussion about the games because all you will hear is "MUH CYCLES." Dark Souls 2 fucked everything over when they added that garbage along with Manus somehow having an emo daughter. Miyazaki running with it so hard that Dark Souls 3 ends up being muh cycles: the game is the shit flavored icing on this landfill cake. It even infected Demon's Souls which had a pretty cut and dry ending and story.

>Old One goes to sleep forever but humanity loses the soul arts and you lose your waifu

>you become Super Demon Lord with a hot waifu and destroy the world

Dark Souls was the same way.

>flame is extended and nothing is explained about what happens afterwards

>flame is extinguished and you become Darth I mean Dark Lord strength build

Lamest excuse they could come up with so they could shove in as much fan service as possible and ruins your journey in the first game. A game of delicate chess where you are either the pawn or the King, saving a society in entropy or letting it dissolve turns out to be an annual Special Olympics event.

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0d42ef  No.16849787

>>16849773

As much as I like some lore in RPGs, I never care about it in Souls. It's kind of like the Doom discussion we were having above. Sometimes just good level design is all the story I need.

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e3de49  No.16849814

>>16847697

Wasn't Kiryu retconned into being a 40 year old virgin?

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6726a1  No.16849825

>>16849773

DS2 has the best plot, retard. The rest only has lore, most don't even have lines.

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287e19  No.16849845

>>16849773

>Old One goes to sleep forever but humanity loses the soul arts and you lose your waifu

Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't the implication that the Old One would wake up eventually, and you became the new Monumental? I may be wrong, but I think the idea was that the setting itself was quite fatalist, so good endings are more akin of just delaying the inevitable end. It was always a choice of prolonging life and avoid the doom, or join in on the fun and end it all. Which Dark Souls kind of taking the same route but maybe a little more ambiguous.

I agree though, that DS2 and DS3 were a mistake and the cycles shit beyond stupid. From's "souls" games work best as standalone stories, the reason why Demon's, Dark and Bloodborne work pretty well. The story was never meant to go beyond the boundaries of the first game.

>>16849825

>DS2 has the best plot

As far as I remember, DS2 is the same shit as DS1, you arrive at a dead kingdom, kill the last remnant of heroes of old, but this time you don't even have the choice to end it all, and they put a "good ending" behind 3 DLCs, which is both stupid and doesn't fit with the fatalist tone of its predecessors, and doesn't even matter once DS3 comes out and ignore most of the "plot" of 2.

>most don't even have lines.

Did I get baited?

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0d42ef  No.16849852

At first I believed there'd be a lot more to complain about, but on second thought, there are more egregious examples in other mediums. Hollywood being the worst. We just saw three major franchises completely shit on plot points they centered on before: Skywalker and John Connor killed off, and Marvel writing out the Mutants. I'm now looking forward to Neo not being the One. I'm struggling to find shit that pisses me off as much about games.

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6726a1  No.16849855

File: e3da9f182019ed6⋯.jpg (438.34 KB, 891x1170, 99:130, 825d83d4c4eedc07999f8b1e04….jpg)

>>16849845

>Did I get baited?

Bosses and plot NPCs have no lines in other Souls, neither the world has any progression, there is only mere item description or some obscure shit.

Compare it to DS2 where you see and fight the giant wars, where you talk with Nashandra, the king, Aldia, the other queen in the dlc and so forth.

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287e19  No.16849865

>>16849855

>Bosses and plot NPCs have no lines in other Souls

What about the Serpents, Gwynevere and Gwyndolin in DS1? The Monumental, the Maiden in Black, the real King Allan and Maiden Astrea in Demon's Souls? It actually is more of a attest of the quality of writing of DS1 and Demon's that they actually tell so much with so little dialogue. Furthermore, I fail to see how DS2 has plot and the others don't. Is just that DS2 fails to communicate its story on the same way and its much more in your face. Both Demon's and Dark had numerous NPCs that were missable but had the keys to explain what happened and what is happening and what is going to happen, the few scant lines of dialogue, as you say, were more significant and what is say and no was more important. The plot in DS2 is pretty much like DS1, it already happened, is little more than lore, you are just there to clean up. You don't fight the giant wars, you just go to a memory of it, all the DLCs are just the ruins of the kingdom, and I fail to see what makes DS2 have plot, and Demon's Souls and DS1 just lore. I can understand you preferring DS2 storytelling, but I cannot agree on your assessment about plot.

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0d42ef  No.16849870

>>16849865

>It actually is more of a attest of the quality of writing of DS1 and Demon's that they actually tell so much with so little dialogue

I was always got a kind of Ico/Colossus vibe from it.. except in hack n slash form. You can't say they're bad stories either..and they're explicit with even less.

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0d42ef  No.16849871

>>16849867

I think Duke was meant to get his dick sucked right off the bat. Same with Lara's titties.

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adac80  No.16849873

>>16848510

>Orcs becoming noble savages in WC3.

It felt like a reasonable plot development, tricked a whole race into drinking the demon kool-aid and getting the mad cunt disease. Turning WC from a neat war story into some fucking hero teen drama is another matter tho.

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6726a1  No.16849888

>>16849865

>it's a feature, not a bug the fact that you are forced to use wikis and "game theory" correlate random item descriptions to make some sense of what is going on

No.

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74f2da  No.16849889

>>16849733

nah they kicked him out because he kept making stupid fucking mazes with blue bottles and an imp at the end of each and every single fucking windy corridor, on top of being a massive fucking spergazoid with his idiotic """lore""" ideas

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593097  No.16849905

>>16849248

Wasn't it battler parent's in the end? Or do you mean the idea that granny got introduced at all?

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593097  No.16849913

>>16849773

Yeah I agree

"The world is running out of energy and getting FUCKED because of it and the only thing you can do is to let it die or burn yourself despite it being pretty much unfixable by now." is far more interesting and tragic than "same shit but if you burn yourself it gets reborn."

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38f495  No.16850042

>>16849888

What, cannot piece the plot together yourself? Its not fucking rocket science, just explore and speak with the npcs and you can get the gist of it. I mean, the plot of these games is already little more than an excuse to have cool dark fantasy adventures. If a bunch of retards want to make up "game theories" about a plot that is, by all means, a simple apocalyptic story, it is not fault of the game. You have to remember that, a vast amount of what is considered "canon" are just bullshit fan theories, and many got mad or were wrong once DS3 released. If you still cannot piece together shit, maybe improve your reading comprehension.

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a1fbfe  No.16850104

>>16850042

This. The "plot" of the Dark Souls games is like the plot of a long-running show or anime, it's just a continual creep of elements that the writer pulls out of his ass just to keep the series going, nothing was ever meant to be considered beyond the scope of what it directly dealt with.

It's like trying to get a coherent picture of the plot of Dragon Ball as a whole. What meaningful relation does the grand zeno, hit, or buu have to Goku's adventures fighting pilaf so that Bulma could wish for a boyfriend? None, it just got so popular that Toriyama couldn't let it end after he ran out of decent ideas.

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9bef9b  No.16850114

>>16849120

I somehow never noticed that they got rid of that. I thought the yellow tip of the heart-tail thing in the OP was just part of the new design.

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fdeb26  No.16850151

File: 2e1bd1162c647ba⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1810x2889, 1810:2889, epic doot goy, bazinga.png)

>>16849664

>and said lol if you don't like it just ignore it.

You mean like the doot goy smashes the tablet with the story in a fit of manchild rage in the beginning but then you're immediately forced to listen to exposition in an elevator ride?

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fb8b1a  No.16850152

>>16850114

For what I heard, Pikachu never had a black tip, despite numerous people remembering it having so. Mandela effect and all of that. for what its worth, I remember Pikachu having a black tip too

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a9e3f3  No.16850210

>>16849664

I more mean the bit in the manual about how "Three years ago you assaulted a superior officer for ordering his soldiers to fire upon

civilians. He and his body cast were shipped to Pearl Harbor, while you were transferred to Mars, home of the Union Aerospace Corporation."

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4e1fdd  No.16850305

File: e112a38a2ab3534⋯.jpg (40.85 KB, 233x300, 233:300, Hideo_Kojima_Newsflash_02.jpg)

>>16848301

Did u rike it?

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d82843  No.16850310

>>16847697

Current year Mortal Kombat. Pathetic as fuck that NRS allows trannies to work on it.

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a3d11d  No.16850313

File: bd43ba1c97cbc1e⋯.webm (1.39 MB, 395x424, 395:424, Pika!.webm)

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6455b0  No.16850342

>>16849120

I've still got old toys of blacktail pikachu sitting far far away. When I get the chance, I'm going to check if they're still black.

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2cf7ec  No.16850351

>>16850151

The only thing I don't like about that write-up is that they forgot about Doom 64. I still meant what I said about story but the ending being that you stay in hell to keep demons from escaping for all eternity was nice.

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000000  No.16850411

>>16850152

I'm pretty sure that was a thing in spinoffs like Pokepark. Probably just made sense to some modeler who added it because why not.

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935dfd  No.16850595

>>16848102

The second game starts with the now-underground remnants of X-COM pulling an op on their alien overlords to break "the Commander" out of some genetic lab because it turns out they were using him as some kind of weird "psychic hub" for the Ethereal's "psychic network." It has a bizarre emphasis on the self-insert player character who never says anything or has any concrete identity that you can change and it comes across as extremely forced. I thought the second game might have been interesting story-wise because it canonically ends the first game with humanity losing, but it's worse.

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935dfd  No.16850613

>>16849664

>This faggot didn't even know about Doomguy's backstory

There's nothing on the Mars colony except UAC's research facilities. Mars is the shit post, it's the dead-end job that marines get sent to because someone up the chain of command has it out for them. Doomguy was on Mars as an what is effectively an MP because he disobeyed an order to fire on civilians during a riot on dystopian Earth and punched his NCO. Coincidentally, the reason he's only carrying a pistol is due to this demotion to MP post.

It's not an amazing story but one that makes the character more relatable than most FPS protagonists, including Gordon Freeman, which is fucking sad. And they threw that out for a completely unrelatable "YOU ARE A DIVINE BEING WHOSE ONLY EXISTENCE IS SLAUGHTER NOW MILK AND MEME UNTIL IT IS DONE" and then proceed to insult your intelligence by trashing on unskippable cutscenes, during unskippable cutscenes.

>>16849733

Tom Hall was fucking insane and most of his ideas were retarded. He was rightly let go in my opinion. You can look up the "Doom bible" he wrote online now and the immediate first impression is "Yeah this would have never worked." However, I was pretty sure the backstory blurb was kept in the instruction manual or something.

>>16850210

Yeah, this guy gets it.

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9bef9b  No.16850627

>>16850595

I think perhaps they misunderstood what "immersion" means to most video gamers.

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f8aa76  No.16850633

>>16849120

you mean pichu?

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ca3d68  No.16850900

>>16847780

Demons aren't born from the collective of humans and reincarnate within the primordial sea anymore?

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359ab8  No.16851363

>>16849905

>battlers parents

In that one game that Bernkastel holds, yes.

>granny

I don't know what you are talking about.

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ec353a  No.16866733

File: 364c13a78f37d41⋯.gif (19.71 KB, 96x96, 1:1, deckard.gif)

File: fd214d494cf84b3⋯.jpg (11.87 KB, 474x315, 158:105, deckard2.jpg)

deckard cain

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1ad7e2  No.16867411

>>16847956

>tubchu

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5b807d  No.16867413

>>16851363

I meant *tranny, fucked up key

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2ddf89  No.16867463

Penelope being revealed to be an amoral sociopath who was only ever in it for the money in Sly Cooper Thieves in Time. It doesn't really fill me with rage, mostly because I never cared for Penelope in the first place, as much as it fills me with me confusion. Why did they think it was a good idea have her do a 180 like that? That seems like the last thing you would want to do if you're trying to revive an old franchise. All it did was piss off the fans of the old games. On top of that the reveal was executed in a very clumsy way. That being said it is just about the only thing I remember from Thieves in Time, if for the wrong reasons, so I guess it has that going for it.

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762a19  No.16867473

File: 2891a76044b143c⋯.png (53.66 KB, 256x256, 1:1, Saxton_Hale.png)

File: 8548e6e48f3bcf4⋯.jpg (62.02 KB, 680x766, 340:383, 17991084_787458551406274_5….jpg)

>>16848512

>Not giving dubs the time of day because of irrational weeaboo hatred towards anything not spoken in the language they fetishize- even if they're as faithful as possible to the old script.

>(1) and done

>Bring the whole MUH TRANSLATION shit that fucked up a previous thread already

<Ignoring the fact that most of the time the only dub that exists in games, especially jap games is the american one

<Ignoring the fact that only western games get an alternate language dub anymore these days to spread the pozz, like with Ass Effect 3

<Ignoring the fact that after the grand fuckery of 2005 the few jap games that used to have a sub and dub of their countries language are now fucking extinct to the point of only cc2's Narutard and DB games having them

<Ignoring that after the release of PS4 your regional dubs are locked behind your PS4 setting which is highly retarded

<Ignoring how some countries just plain don't have dub studios anymore and don't want to hear shitty burgerfag dubs either

>Throws in a MUH REAL WESTERNERS

Gigafaggots like you are the absolute worst.

>>16849342

Isn't the new lore that it's Doomguy from N64 that kept killing demons and the demons started fearing him so much they worshipped him as their Satan?

Unless N64 Doomguy is the same Doomguy as the originals.

>>16849773

Miyazaki was assblasted that a dinky company like Falcom could pull off the western RPG feel better than them and King's Field, so he decide to make up for it by making the Souls series and making it for adults because

>MUH BERSERK

without understanding Berserk beyond cool swords and something about a dragon and Lovecraft shit.

The failed english majors that call themselves Lore youtubers are just the biggest cherries on top of a mildly annoying aspect of a series of games, that is now more synonymous with them rather than the godawful combat those games have because Miyazaki is a retard and didn't want to rip off Xanadu Next until the third game. And even then, he fucked it up.

>>16849814

Where? I remember that the dude never indulges about his love life but the gameplay always inferred that you could potentially have a kind of love life, the one a Yakuza life offers you with the various seedy shops. And since the side quests are wacky and fun, they were wise not to bring it up as much in the main story.

If anything, the only time I remember any main character getting cannonically cockblacked in the story right as he is about to have sex is Tatsuya from Kurohyo, where two horny aras from a Cabaret actually do dig you but since you're underage they surprisingly turn you down and Tatsuya is disappointed. And in the enxt game one of them isn't there anymore they couldn't afford the likeness of the model or something? and the other just has a boyfriend or something now or since she was also present in other mainline RGG games, she now crushes on Kiryu or something? so you don't get none.

>>16850613

Tom Hall's quote was in the manual? Always thought it was a concesion between Carmack and Romero as to how to describe the "story" found in Doom1

>INB4 someone cries about muh story in games before the SNES

Yes, I remember how manuals often contained 90% of the story in games from '91 and before if their names weren't FF, DraQue or Wizardry. Or Ultima. But some of us started with the free version and never thought to open a manual when we got the complete version out of sheer impatience.

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76bead  No.16867478

File: e6ec014551112b2⋯.jpg (266.11 KB, 1280x960, 4:3, 1445912235706.jpg)

File: 1063c0f166fbb23⋯.png (470.67 KB, 600x773, 600:773, 1063c0f166fbb237f24fc6fd17….png)

File: 146edee47fecf84⋯.jpg (270.05 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, 146edee47fecf845a5d90cade5….jpg)

File: 4914fd9fa6240cf⋯.jpg (68.04 KB, 350x447, 350:447, 1446127143628.jpg)

>>16849773

>"MUH CYCLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!"

;_;

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d90229  No.16867490

>>16849344

Why is one extreme ok but the other isn't? Nudity is on par with violence, if not milder.

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605fab  No.16867498

>>16849330

Did Toddy Retcon "FUCKING NWAH" Dark Elves who hated ANYONE sitting on their land?

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bf65ee  No.16867591

>>16850313

Why would someone do this?

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6bd85d  No.16867664

>>16867498

ESO retconned Vvardenfell being offlimits to outlanders before Tiber Septim conquered them. Probably retconned more but every time I tried playing the game it just made me want to play Morrowind instead.

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472008  No.16867677

File: 641730fb066caf3⋯.png (1.06 MB, 4500x3375, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 7fc894a888c3e9c⋯.png (8.91 MB, 5200x2500, 52:25, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16847780

timeline memery has been around longer than 4 and SMT 4 never actually figures into said memery as a central piece.

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c629b3  No.16867691

hating pokemon isn't irrational. it and Square both killed the JRPG genre just as it left the gate. thanks to them, only two actually good JRPG's exist or ever will exist (Wizardry 8 and SMT Nocturne.) they casualized a genre while it was still in its infancy.

imagine if the first successful FPS ever released was Call of Duty Black Ops III instead of DOOM. yeah, that's pokemon.

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e17940  No.16867727

>>16867691

>Pokemon 1996

>Pokemon is JRPG in its infancy

<Final Fantasy VI 1994

<Breath of Fire II 1994

<Chrono Trigger 1995

<Dragon Quest V 1992

<Phantasy Star IV 1993

<Shin Megami Tensei II 1994

<Ys V 1995

<Secret of Mana 1993

<Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem 1994

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c629b3  No.16867735

>>16867727

>it and Square both killed the JRPG

>and Square

conveniently left out that part and then listed a bunch of easy baby game JRPG's lol. chrono trigger is literally a pioneer to the cinematic experience games we have now. press A to watch your hero do an epic anime animation on the enemy!

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73fb8b  No.16867740

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>16849342

I always imagined him like this. Beth doomguy is still faggot shit though.

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e17940  No.16867741

>>16867735

Listed Enix, Nihon Falcom, Capcom, Sega, Intelligent Systems, and Atlus titles in established franchises.

>i ignored the square part

Fuck off.

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45148b  No.16867742

>>16849845

>wasn't the implication that the Old One would wake up eventually, and you became the new Monumental?

You might be able to see it that way. The monumentals had previously lulled the great on to slumber, but I don't think it's implied that becoming a monumental is mandatory afterwards.

But yes both of them definitely involved the idea that whatever you do is only temporary. I think the people you responded to are just idiots.

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e17940  No.16867743

>>16867735

And my point was the bit about "JRPGs in its infancy".

JRPGs had a fucking decade faggot before Chrono Trigger and Pokemon.

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98b8b3  No.16867756

>>>/v/16867735

>having your character actually attack an enemy instead of swinging his sword at the air and it magically doing damage fifty feet away is equivalent to minute-long cinematic animations for every attack

Now that's some autism.

>imagine if the first successful FPS ever released was Call of Duty Black Ops III instead of DOOM. yeah, that's pokemon.

<Pokemon was the first successful JRPG

Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest don't exist. Hell, there were at least several dozen of successful JRPGs before Pokemon. "not Pokemon" does not mean "not successful" when Pokemon is Nintendo's second most profitable franchise in games alone.

>>16867735

>whining about easy baby games while loving Nocturne

That's what I call "acceptable shit taste". It's shit taste but people here convince themselves that it's not so they allow it to spread. Kinda like liking Wind Waker.

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2c42f7  No.16867994

>>16847697

Shut the fuck up, nigger.

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db79ed  No.16868082

File: fdbe2f3733d9c79⋯.jpg (80.36 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 118774a07c5f100daa5490cc5b….jpg)

>>16848436

>>16848175

Yeah but the parallel universe stuff was always between sister games (Ruby/Sapphire, Black/White, etc.), not between an original game and a remake. And it's really more of a timeline split this time around, since its implied to bundle together multiple games into two separate strings.

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3a3d57  No.16868204

File: f4160b2402d2553⋯.jpg (41.72 KB, 960x471, 320:157, dafuck.jpg)

I am not crazy, I do not believe in the Mandela effect and I believe that the conspiracy theories are mostly a lot of shit, but sometimes it takes my sleep away from thinking that the change to the pikachu tail from black to yellow has been made and MOST people think it's a false memory.

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9bef9b  No.16868219

>>16868204

I dunno, though. Around when would that change have been made? Maybe early anime Pikachu had the black tip, but Pikachu in Yellow (who was still fat and round, right?) had no black tip. You'd think there'd be some definite answer, but maybe it's collectively more interesting to perpetuate the confusion.

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d829ad  No.16868248

>>16868204

That's called a redesign and being fucking retarded, the same way the Berentaien Berenstien name changing shit is.

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3a3d57  No.16868271

File: d47b0d6001a5506⋯.jpg (105.61 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, capture.jpg)

>>16868248

>>16868219

Even from a design point of view a black tip tail makes a lot of sense.

I found pic related that is a unedited screenshot from the first pokemon movie.

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a2a4dc  No.16868322

File: 1d7861ff3008042⋯.jpg (70.13 KB, 400x400, 1:1, YAlZthn.jpg)

>>16868204

It was more like this

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b745d2  No.16868342

>>16868322

I thought it was more of a dark brown colour, not actually jet black. Back when he was fat pikachu.

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73fb8b  No.16870641

File: 447c946234c0267⋯.gif (1.13 MB, 600x300, 2:1, ezgif_7_568442409a05.gif)

>>16868204

You mandela effect niggers need to commit suicide. The original pikachu sprite had a little black on the tail due to shitty spritework and a hazy memory of this from a young age made you think it's a conspiracy or something.

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fc2d0a  No.16870667

File: a02e08b3d0c4f8d⋯.png (3.65 KB, 56x56, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>16870641

I mean to be fair, pikachu was meant to have coloring on his tail, just not black.

The RB sprites shat the bed a few times.

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fc2d0a  No.16870678

File: 99c63777a267f60⋯.png (1.33 KB, 56x56, 1:1, Spr_1b_026.png)

File: 0221f1e8d748821⋯.png (4.05 KB, 56x56, 1:1, Spr_1g_026.png)

>>16870667

I meant to say its clearly based on how the ears were redone.

The tail got hit with the same recolor for some reason. More notably though, thats clearly raichus tail whereas the green one had a mesh.

In actuality, i think its not an error but a redesign to make him mesh with raichu more. A lot of mons were getting redesigns even by the blue stage. But eventually got replaced with anime crap anyway.

RBG raichu clearly showed he was meant to be a midstage by looking like shit. A fun thing basically nobody realized as a hint towards the whole gorochu thing.

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db79ed  No.16870693

>>16868204

>>16868322

>>16870641

I think people are just more likely to color the end black when drawing from memory because it matches the ears which are more prominent. And since the brown coloring was at the base of his tail, and usually covered in some kind of shadow, it's always been one of the least prominent features on Pikachu. While I could imagine the tip of the tail being dark, actually seeing it depicted just looks really wrong to me.

>>16868271

Wouldn't really prove anything as it could always be attributed to error, though in this case I'm pretty sure it's just shading.

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8dedcf  No.16871009

>>16847697

>Which video game retcon do you have the most irrational hatred for?

There is no irrational hatred for retcons. Retcons are a cancer that kills art. They fully deserve all the hate they get.

>>16848116

>>16848128

I was just about to say the same. Picasso's an overrated hack artist for sure.

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143851  No.16871840

>>16868082

Oh, you're somebody who doesn't understand the concept of a continuity family. I'd call you retarded but it's not obvious, so let me try to explain it. Basically imagine if, instead of everything in Pokemon existing in one canon, there were instead different groups of canons that are technically all valid to themselves. To go into more detail here, I'd say that while the animes, mangas, and arguably side games fit mostly with that general definition (if you want a more detailed explanation of this concept look it up on tfwiki.net or don't because it's run by David Willis and I'd respect you for not wanting to do anything related to him) the main games go even further with this concept, where every individual's save file is it's own universe. This covers up every conceivable plothole that has been raised as early as Gen 2 (for the record, the Red in those games is possibly from Yellow) or even Gen 1 which seems content with both players being essentially the same person yet still able to trade with one another. Now we can argue how fine grained we want to define what each continuity family is, and how transferring Pokemon between generations relates to it, but that's an argument for another time.

>>16870693

I don't remember the black tail, but I also vaguely remember some small Pikachu toys that might have had a tail end fade to brown, but I'm probably mixing up the direction of the shading.

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53dac4  No.16872986

>>16847899

I like that comic, thanks

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727f9d  No.16886883

File: cd549acd4e600d4⋯.jpg (3.63 KB, 128x112, 8:7, 20200313.jpg)

File: c31a31ddab955b1⋯.jpg (80.45 KB, 800x803, 800:803, 20200314.jpg)

>>16847697

jobbing M.Bison to Akuma. That kills a lot of his threat…

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