f83c04 No.16823760[Last 50 Posts]
Undertale, Cuphead, Bendy and the Ink Machine, Five Nights at Freddies, Baldi's Basics, I've noticed a trend. All of these have or had the same "fandoms", ie the ones that make comics for tumblr or whatnot which then get on youtube like clockwork through comic dubs and even people in Japan latch onto them. The crossover between "fandoms" is unknown.
What exactly attracts the fujoshits to these games in this specific manner? What exactly is the draw? Why do they latch onto these characters?
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a9ce2a No.16823785
No idea. I've only played Cuphead because it's decent mechanically, and I played Bendy because I thought the art style was intriguing. Actually never even heard about Bendy before and got it in a bundle, so I figured fuck it. Played it through. Mildly entertaining, but it's pretty much all lame haunted coaster ride at the fair bullshit and the puzzles are really simplistic. The only time I came close to dying was that one area where you're defending an underground base from waves of ink demons with two incredibly simple AI partners. The whole thing just felt like a waste of time by the end, and you could see the ending twist coming a mile away. And it wasn't even a novel or interesting twist.
Then about a week after that I was shopping for Nerf guns for my nephews birthday and saw a half-a-goddamned-isle of Bendy toys at Walmart and remember thinking - What the fuck. How did this lame piece of shit get so popular?
At the very least, Cuphead is mechanically sound and fun to play. Also, the mermaid porn is alright.
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9fe86e No.16823787
because theyre popular and bitches only go for things that lots of people are talking about
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7fe365 No.16823788
massive popularity and the fact that popular lets players have played them
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06092d No.16823789
>>16823760
So i'm not the only one who has have noticed the 'autistic nomads'. I call them that to emphasis that is problem is not just a single fandom problem but a demographic that moves to fandom to fandom, and they bring cringy, degenerate, autisic shit them. The easiest way to check if one of these 'fandom' fan, is an autistic nomad, if were a my little pony fan in the past, if they around before mlp got big they were probably doing sonic shit. If both of those fail check if they just hop other Flavor of the Month fandoms like they're chasing clout. which they totally are. This also applies to 'artists' as well. I haven't checked the japanese artists at all to see if a pattern emerges over there, but my gut tells me they done gacha fan art or touhou in the past.
>What exactly attracts the fujoshits to these games in this specific manner? What exactly is the draw? Why do they latch onto these characters?
Flavor of the Month with a touch of clout. Okay there's more to it than that but it's not the 'autistic nomad' artist you gotta look out for it's their fans, they're the ones requesting the autistic art.
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fc1299 No.16823791
What attracts the autistic to Sanic despite him never being in a fun game ever
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41d8c6 No.16823793
>>16823789
>Mentions MLP
Yeah, right what I was thinking, Tumblr and Twitter pretty much made these people have their own hugboxes where they attach themselves to these IPs.
And funny that you mention Sonic because despite some slight overlap the majority of the community as autistic as they are not only has gotten less autistic over the years, likely due to Sega not going full retard with their latest games.
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f83c04 No.16823795
>>16823789
That makes some sense, I found out about these guys when it hit my youtube feed for some reason and the rabbit hole goes deep. Checking back a few years later and going onto the comic sources on tumblr pretty much confirms that, people who did Undertale or Cuphead moved onto Bendy or Baldi for some godawful reason and so on. There's a few passion projects that are still going on but they tend to straight up drop comics or whatever. It's really a shame, some of them, a few at least, come up with actual interesting stories or "what-ifs" if you dig around, but they never finish anything.
>>16823791
Imprinting. Playing games at an early age and getting entranced with the characters. Note that the SANIC shit has died down and was essentially replaced by these "nomad" games in the new generation's consciousness. Sonic "art" is rarer now, and is relegated to the backrooms of the internet, but this is the new Sonic. Teens latch onto a lot of stuff to define themselves, everyone did.
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41d8c6 No.16823796
>>16823791
Colorful varied furfag characters and retarded shonen plots.
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fc1299 No.16823800
If Cuphead turns his head, do his brains leak out? Fun game but I lose sleep over this stuff, it's horrifying.
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41d8c6 No.16823801
>>16823800
It would be extremely painful
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f83c04 No.16823804
>>16823796
Not exactly "shonen" in the anime sense, since most of these are horror games, Cuphead's a 1950's early cartoon love letter, and Undertale is really the only one that fits for "shonen". The only thing they really have in common are "cute" characters, that and the fact that they're all "edgy" in some way, have a "dark side". Every single one.
Examples: Cuphead is an addict and a gambler and as such is portrayed as a carefree alcholic casino goer who rubs shoulders with the devil.
Bendy is an ink demon who mauls people but is portrayed as a tragic figure with hangups with who created him or an outright alternate universe cartoon, notable art is him actually making cartoons with the rest of his creators.
Baldi is an abusive teacher and is portrayed with an ensemble cast of other fucked up teachers for comedy. So on and so forth. It's the "rebel" aspect along with "cute" that's part of the appeal with kids and teens, but instead of an attitude like Sonic, it's being actually evil, or fucked up in some way.
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41d8c6 No.16823807
>>16823804
He asked about Sonic
Modern shit is colorful and quirky while being somewhat edgy like you said.
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a9ce2a No.16823809
>>16823795
>Imprinting.
I feel like I dodged a huge bullet growing up, and partly I think that has to do with a little resentment at Sonic for killing Alex Kidd and being responsible for never getting a proper Phantasy Star V. The way Sonic Team handled Phantasy Star Online as a cash-dump to fund more terrible Sonic games and how they kept shoe-horning Sonic bullshit into my Phantasy Star as they continually jacked themselves off to how great a franchise Sonic was - was just the icing on the cake.
I never really had a problem with Sonic games… 1-3 were pretty good. Adventures was… ok, mostly as a visual masterpiece for a very slim margin of time when played on a VGA monitor. The GBA games were competent enough. But nothing in that franchise ever hit me as being worth the sheer size and rabidity of the fanbase it generated.
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f83c04 No.16823811
>>16823800
If you go too deep into tumblr comics, you'll see Cuphead "boil".
And the way that the artists explain it away (collectively) is that they just drink shit like tea or alcohol by pouring the drinks into their heads and only keep shit in there because the bottom of the cup contains their "soul". I do appreciate the worldbuilding that the comics do sometimes.
It gets kinda gay though, but that's the price you pay.
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06092d No.16823812
>>16823793
>And funny that you mention Sonic because despite some slight overlap the majority of the community as autistic as they are not only has gotten less autistic over the years, likely due to Sega not going full retard with their latest games.
That's because nomads left sonic about the time mlp got popular. Also sonic mania was just about the game, and didn't have that LORE that attracts autism like flies to honey.
>>16823791
>Colorful varied furfag characters and retarded shonen plots.
Most of the blame of sonic autism belongs to archie's comicbook series. Which has both in spades.
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f83c04 No.16823815
>>16823812
>Most of the blame of sonic autism belongs to archie's comicbook series. Which has both in spades.
Mostly because of this guy. He got fired really, REALLY late. He has some serious sanic echidna buttlust
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16d303 No.16823816
I'm never touching a Touhou game. I see that shit fucking everywhere.
The Undertale fanbase is even worse because it has more fags and smug retards.
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02bd8d No.16823817
>>16823795
>Note that the SANIC shit has died down and was essentially replaced by these "nomad" games in the new generation's consciousness. Sonic "art" is rarer now, and is relegated to the backrooms of the internet, but this is the new Sonic.
Part of that could be contributed to the the fact that none of the original Sonic Team is working on the games anymore since the mass firing made in response to 06, and the "official" comic went through two different reboots (The first a "soft" reboot because of Penders, the second time because of Archie dropping the comic altogether in favor of promoting Riverdale); both of which caused the series to lose any amount of autism it had been building since starting in the early 90's, which resulted in the "fans" also losing interest as well.
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750da3 No.16823819
>>16823811
>>16823800
The actual game shows the liquid is alcohol. Jesus christ I see this topic pop up so many times that I wonder how many people actually played the game.
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fc1299 No.16823821
>>16823809
Phantasy Star, Space Harrier, Shinobi, Ecco, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, countless others… and at the end of day people only care about Autistic the Hedgehog, the worst SEGA has to offer
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06092d No.16823825
>>16823816
>The Undertale fanbase is even worse because it has more fags and smug retards.
Undertail's gameplay is just touhou for babbys, yes even the funny skeleton, that's just early boss touhou hard. The writing is just aping off of Andrew hussie (aka Problem Sleuth, Homestuck) style of writing, because he literally did worked with andrew hussie on homestuck and lived in his house for a time. Also I feel the need to remind you fucks that /v/ did love problem sleuth.
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750da3 No.16823826
>>16823819
Disregard that, I suck cocks. It's actually shown in the trailer.
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8c66c9 No.16823828
>>16823816
I love the 2hu games (and shmups in general) but I honestly can't blame your aversion to it after how cancerous and Plebbit-tier the fanbase has become.
The games aren't really big on Jewtube or for LPs though. The characters are just weeb bait even to people that hate shmups.
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af46fc No.16823831
>>16823760
Because they're heavily marketed and merchandised beyond the game or materials pertaining to such (IE: artbooks and OSTs)? I'd also assume that the visual styles make it easy for "OC" characters, like Sanic or MLP (doesn't undertale have a similar "furshit" factor as well?).
Kind of depressing knowing that a few vidya series I like have actually decent tumblrs, to the point at times they manage to beat out booru-type art aggregates (despite being eastern developed series that are usually easy to find art for on such sites). Maybe both series being more-or-less dead means what fans are left there aren't typical tumblr trash, and from what I recall seeing before there wasn't any political soapboxing or SJW horsehit like the site's gotten known for either, but fuck if I still feel dirty on the occasion I go trawling them on grounds that decent art for either can be hard to come by. It's like they picked one of the stereotypically worst (at least to a proper anon) places to set up camp, probably just because it made it easy to dump artwork and screenshots on for posterity.
>>16823791
Easy to make OC with, simplistic plots, and speedy gameplay and a dash of edge that keeps the attention of the ADHD afflicted, I suppose. Going to be honest, while I don't doubt there's some decent fans that aren't total spergs, and my own pool of social experiences has never been especially deep, I have never met someone in person that was a fan of Sonic (and to a lesser degree, Sega in general) and didn't have something noticeably off about them to some degree. I don't mean "blatant furry" either, just that they weren't altogether there. Lack of hygiene, weird ticks, being inappropriate in public, etc. Not "where's his fucking wrangler" tier, but very much offputting, like that one kid that sat near you in school who always smell like old peanut butter and had crusted snot on his shirt sleeve.
>>16823816
2hu at least has some excuse for the sheer breadth of fan attention it gets, if for nothing else, that it's had over two decades to hone such popularity, and there's varying levels of hate that those that like the games themselves have for the secondaries and tertiaries (I don't think NISA starting to bring various games west is helping matters either). Looking at Kantai Collection though, it's fucking ridiculous how much attention artists give when it's a mobile game that hasn't even been out seven years yet in Japan. It'll probably surpass Touhou in time.
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f83c04 No.16823834
>>16823816
Touhou is actually pretty good, there's better, but don't let a dumb fandom sit in your head rent-free and cause you to miss out on something. Life is way too short and there's a reason why people congregate around things and cause drama.
>>16823825
Trust me, i've binge read through Homestuck and Problem Sleuth was a teen, had basically nothing better to do at the time and the Undertale writing is much less faggy. Also Problem Sleuth wasn't done by a single guy, it was a forum game where the answers determined what the characters would do, Homestuck was done in the same style, but was done by Hussie. As a result Problem Sleuth is actually good, because Hussie's a huge over-writer and autist.
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9fe86e No.16823836
>>16823834
Homestuck started with suggestions, actually, but then it got too popular for him to keep up or bother so he went rogue. He also has two Formspring accounts that he closed because he got too many fucking questions jammed into it. Hussie did the art both, though, and he felt like he needed to art harder for Homestuck, hence flash movies and games.
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f83c04 No.16823839
>>16823831
Most decent people who like things here and there usually don't identify as a fan to other people or display that, mostly because being a normalfag means you get actual well adjusted friends instead of trainwrecks. People who act like that are looking for people just like them, and take "being themselves" way too hard. Ultimately they're socially awkward and may have a disorder.
The irony is that everyone's a trainwreck, and hiding that gets you friends. Eventually, by hiding it enough, you learn to exhibit your hobbies as something that isn't a big deal, rather then the sheer desperation to be validated. It's the difference between being the consumer of a hobby and being consumed by a hobby.
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41d8c6 No.16823843
>>16823815
Archie Sonic was weird
>>16823816
Touhou isn't nearly as bad as it was 15 years ago.
The people who like it actually like it now and the posers usually stick to gachashit autismo.
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a9ce2a No.16823846
>>16823821
Yeah, but Phantasy Star in particular since that came out of the same internal studios before Sonic was even created, so when Sonic got big, all the titles their division had been responsible for (like PS) fell under the newly formed "Sonic Team". After the development of PSIV, Rieko's team got "restructured" into other divisions while Sonic Team kept the PS franchise despite everyone who was creatively responsible for it being either fired or shuffled off to other studios. Except for Naka, but his biggest claim to fame in that franchise is as lead programmer on PS1 & 2. Not that he didn't do good work, but not much of what he added really seeped into what could be considered core to the classic franchise. Yet he was given full control over all future sequels, which resulted in PSO - then Sakai shitting it up with PSU. Rieko meanwhile bounced into Overworks, which merged with Wow - WowWorks, and after Skies of Arcadia got stuck with shitty mobile & DS shovelware games until 7th Dragoon. Never did hear about what happened to Yoshida or Aoki after the Saturn launched. I only ever saw Yoshida's name come up as Special Thanks in games after that, and even that stopped sometime in the early 2000's.
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af46fc No.16823852
>>16823825
>and lived in his house for a time.
I'm guessing it didn't turn out the same, but that reminded of that "Final Fantasy House" thing.
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700ef0 No.16824631
I never see people mention the so called "fandom" that Yume Nikki has outside of image boards. It seems like every teenage girl with a tumblr attempted to make their own fan game. I like to imagine that they made edgy fangames as a form of coping with adolescence.
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c89aa8 No.16824782
The secret is that they are migratory hipsters that care not for the actual games themselves, but instead for the social clout they can elicit from them.
A lot of these games do have some level of intrigue of their own that manages to appeal widely.
Don't forget, Undertale was notable enough to get people to rig a gayfaqs poll for a shitty pun
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b28cf2 No.16824824
I'm not exactly sure. Coincidentally, the three games mentioned do have some ties to cartoons in general. Something to do with autists attached to cartoons?
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a8be57 No.16824960
>>16823760
>What exactly is the draw?
Pseudo-iconic character designs
>>16823795
>Teens latch onto a lot of stuff to define themselves
Teenagers are pathetic pieces of shit. I always hated them. As a kid I disliked seeming them in my cartoons, and I noticed the trend of them being in a lot of shows that were trying to be 'cool' and it was cringe inducing as hell.
Even as a teenager I still hated them. Teenage girls were fragile brats who suffer actual mental breakdowns if their parents didn't allow them to go to parties, and teenage guys were insufferable normalfag-tier dumbasses
Back in the good old days they used to beat the shit out of these obnoxious shits
>disregard that, I suck cocks
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1a24e6 No.16824977
Let's Players. That's it. Search any of those games on jewtube and you'll find mountains of let's players doing EPIC reactions when something goes wrong while they play the game.
>>16823816
At least 2hu fangames are cool
>>16824631
>as a form of coping with adolescence
Boy i sure hope that worked
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58548f No.16824988
>>16824960
Really the only one who should be a fan of deltarune is mimiga bro, considering there are Far to many coincidences to not be in reference to him.
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c4d9c3 No.16824993
>>16824960
>implying that only cuckchannel refugees participate in furfaggotry thread derailing
That's just being disingenuous. This board is known for being full of gay furries.
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3d87b3 No.16825043
>>16823793
Sonic autists seem to dominate other autists socially and physically.
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bb034f No.16825403
>>16823789
>So i'm not the only one who has have noticed the 'autistic nomads'. I call them that to emphasis that is problem is not just a single fandom problem but a demographic that moves to fandom to fandom, and they bring cringy, degenerate, autisic shit them.
It's like, they don't like the games per se, just the idea of having experienced them. A simple character design or some iconic features help a lot, but aren't necessary. I guess you just need a few dedicated autists who self insert and then the rest will come naturally. Also there's the part about the flavor of the month being more iconic than other flavors of the month, they mostly do it for the attention rather than for actually liking the series. Making memes today is the equivalent of acting like a Cool Kid in the nineties.
My earliest experience with them was when I heard of the Homestuck fandom moving on to OFF and Danganronpa. Two games that had no reason for having that dedicated kind of userbase, and by that I mean the kind that just self insert tons of autistic bullshit in them.
>>16823791
SA2:B is one of my favorite games ever but I understand what you mean. It's jank-core, Sonic Mania is probably the only good one made by competent devs.
>>16823834
Do people even like Hussie's shit? I've read a bit of both Problem Sleuth and Homestuck and it gets boring at like the 200th page clicked.
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bb034f No.16825404
>>16823789
>So i'm not the only one who has have noticed the 'autistic nomads'. I call them that to emphasis that is problem is not just a single fandom problem but a demographic that moves to fandom to fandom, and they bring cringy, degenerate, autisic shit them.
It's like, they don't like the games per se, just the idea of having experienced them. A simple character design or some iconic features help a lot, but aren't necessary. I guess you just need a few dedicated autists who self insert and then the rest will come naturally. Also there's the part about the flavor of the month being more iconic than other flavors of the month, they mostly do it for the attention rather than for actually liking the series. Making memes today is the equivalent of acting like a Cool Kid in the nineties.
My earliest experience with them was when I heard of the Homestuck fandom moving on to OFF and Danganronpa. Two games that had no reason for having that dedicated kind of userbase, and by that I mean the kind that just self insert tons of autistic bullshit in them.
>>16823791
SA2:B is one of my favorite games ever but I understand what you mean. It's jank-core, Sonic Mania is probably the only good one made by competent devs.
>>16823834
Do people even like Hussie's shit? I've read a bit of both Problem Sleuth and Homestuck and it gets boring at like the 200th page clicked.
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d5db09 No.16825406
>>16824993
Furries a little. Faggots? That’s cuckchan bullshit.
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34a501 No.16825420
>>16824960
Who made this? this is pretty good.
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493400 No.16825544
>>16825420
Ur pretty good ;)
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5c9d2d No.16825560
>>16823815
>someone with authority looked at this guy and gave him a job instead of calling security
Daily reminder that you really can judge a book by its cover. If someone looks like a greasy mouth breathing pervert with bizarre fetishes, that means that they probably are.
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2648b4 No.16825642
>Faggots? That’s cuckchan bullshit.
Absolutely not, back to Reddit with you. Cuteboys was one of the most popular boards before the shoah.
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5bbe5d No.16826533
>>16823760
> All of these have or had the same "fandoms"
Since when does a chad game like Cuphead had the same fandom with a tumblr crap like Undertale? Cuphead's fandbase is quite normal, unlike Undertale that has one of the worst fanbases.
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cd638e No.16826582
>>16826533
Given the limited material to work with, yes it certainly is far more normal than what undertale would be like.
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1a24e6 No.16827530
>>16825642
>Cuteboys was one of the most popular boards before the shoah
It was popular in the same sense that /leftypol/ was popular. It was big but the users rarely interacted with the rest of the website, Maybe the /cuteboys/ posters that didn't ruin their own board also happened to be the ones that could keep their paints on while posting on other boards, but we aren't exactly talking about them in this situation.
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4bdbc8 No.16828174
>>16826533
>Since when does a chad game like Cuphead had the same fandom with a tumblr crap like Undertale? Cuphead's fandbase is quite normal, unlike Undertale that has one of the worst fanbases.
As somebody who enjoys torturing myself by wading around in filth looking for gems, I can tell you that you are wrong.
The Cuphead fanbase can be just as cancerous as any other, you just dont see as much of it on the surface primarily because its far smaller compared to a lot of the other retarded fandoms.
Meaning there are both less people to produce awful shit, and there are less people to spread the awful shit (weather it be out of genuine enjoyment, or in an attempt to anger/disgust others intentionally)
So while it doesnt have anywhere near the sheer -quantity- of dumb shit surrounding it, if you dig deep enough you can see awful shit on par with any other fan base.
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7dba8f No.16828177
>>16824960
That was a strange thread
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35416e No.16828222
>>16828177
The Blart protects
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2b116d No.16828288
>>16825406
I can disprove that by talking.
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3c9c8a No.16828327
>>16828222
>>16828177
>dubs and trips for blart
PAUL, PAUL BLART MALL COP, PAUL, PAUL BLART MALL COP
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75cdc4 No.16828439
What the fuck is a fandom? Do they organize? Have they started an army?
You're misconstruing "fandom culture" for a real thing. It is a facade put forth to explain certain social phenomenon, even by the people pushing them forward.
In reality, it is all driven by the creation of OC. Artistic interest is the common thread of every game or media you are considering, particularly porn. Amount of porn is typically proportional to the amount of "fandom" in a given game or media. This is not a coincidence.
Non-porn OC becomes easy with simple character designs, easily understood character personalities, and barebones character relationships. It also becomes easy when a novel premise has been put forth but barely explored. That wasted opportunity invades the minds of creatives and compels them to make art, whether music, comics, or fanfiction, filling the gap. Usually one or two iconic and quotable moments allow for uncreative but satisfying targets to anchor your art on. These are the common trends that generate OC.
Undertale has characters who appeal to several fetishes, especially furries as a general group, who are disproportionately creatives or have money to pay creatives for commissioned work. It is a novel premise (1 2 3 I declare a race war, off to underground gulag you go) with implied depth that has been left totally unexplored, probably deliberately. The characters are easy to understand with 3-5 words of explanation. Their relationships are easy to understand with 5-7 words of explanation. They can be drawn as simply or as complex as you like and still fit the official mold, given the game's simple style. As a result, astonishing amounts of OC have been created, focusing on each of these elements. Sexual interest, romantic interest. Recreating touch-stone moments in the style of the artist. Fanfiction and comics that flesh out the universe's crater-sized plot holes. Every flaw in the game that people here hate it for lend themselves to an easier second-hand experience of the game's content, and the easier creation of OC to fuel that experience.
Cuphead is the worst example of this, so it has the least appeal, least porn. It is classed with the other games and sometimes correlated due to similar release dates and indie production. Bendy is better, but the premise is written on its sleeve, so the momentum for OC died quickly.
Five Night at Freddies initially failed to generate interest. When it was revealed the murderous robots had true personalities and the endless chain of plot-holes disguised as depth began, an expansive network of fanfiction and porn metastasized.
Baldi's Basics is an absolute vortex for interest. Almost all of the content for it is OC. It does not have major sex appeal, so it has failed to expand to a true "fandom".
Franchises that hit more beats attract more creatives and therefore more "fandom culture" which is code for "I am wanking to this while listening to a related music video."
Sonic the Hedgehog, My Little Pony, My Life as a Teenage Robot, Steven Universe, etc. all fit this mold.
The internet is ruled by the same forces it has always been ruled by: autism, boredom, and horniness.
through dick, unity.
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41d8c6 No.16828449
>>16824960
>Even as a teenager I still hated them
Same, can't blame most of them though, the biggest issue is their fagot parents that can't control themselves and still act like teenagers in their 30s, 40s and even 50s
The hormones do the rest
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1933fc No.16828481
>>16824988
Whatever happened to mimiga bro?
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f83c04 No.16828530
I think people, partly, get into these games because of the vitirol and controversy that surrounds the fandom. People hype the shit out of these people, find a corner of it that isn't so bad or find the "fandom" to not be as bad as expected, and then get drawn in that way.
The best way to prevent shit from getting big is to ignore it, I think. Instead of the whole "FUCK OFF TUMBLERTALE", disinterest should be the main thing to combat this shit. There's gonna be dark corners of the internet, there's gonna be retards, there's gonna be depressed fucks who hang onto comfort food trash, but I think that violently rebuking it, while it works in the short term, only serves to make fans from your own ranks later on. Lack of attention kills shit like this. Artists move to whatever's popular, and people will do things out of spite alone.
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164f3b No.16828586
>>16825406
There have always been faggots here, and they still don't understand that everyone hates them so they should off themselves.
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f83c04 No.16828598
>>16828586
Most fags don't care if you tell them to fuck off, and you're just making it worse for yourself if you do, they'll come right back and stay out of spite. The only way to shove them out is to create a environment that they hate without making one YOU hate. They have to leave themselves.
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bb034f No.16828615
>>16828222
>>16828177
Nice digits. Can we get a sequel to this?
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f3314f No.16828623
>>16828615
Is this an invitation to Ralseipost?
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70d4a6 No.16828627
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f83c04 No.16828631
>>16828623
No, but no one can stop you.
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432805 No.16828652
>>16828623
How big is Ralseis cock
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564321 No.16828662
>>16828652
About ye so.
Also holy shit I can post again, it is a miracle, though not for this thread I fear.
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432805 No.16828728
>>16828662
What's gayer, calling Ralsei a girl and feminizing him, or using magic and forcing him to have girl parts?
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16d303 No.16828813
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f6952c No.16828820
>>16828439
So the secret to having a big fandom is wasted potential?
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0c182f No.16828860
>>16828820
your game also needs to have some sort of appeal to it beyond its potential
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9a2848 No.16828887
>>16824960
>>16828222
>>16828177
I'll take it one step higher
>>16828623
>>16828662
You fags are amateurs when it comes to posting shocking shit
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cd638e No.16829019
>>16828481
He mostly quit the internet and got /fit/, at least that's what I heard from one of his friends. He's apparently he's still a gay crybaby.
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df9812 No.16829029
>>16828887
Call me when the cheese graters start appearing.
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12a96f No.16829160
>>16823760
The characters are cute and interesting to draw. different from the boring traditional human characters
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12a96f No.16829164
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16823791
Triple Trouble was fun, especially the train boss
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274537 No.16829258
>>16828623
How about we just Gaster post instead?
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274537 No.16829264
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a6b406 No.16829266
>>16823760
>loved Undertale and Deltarune, and even met some people I'm friends with for an entire year now because of a shared love for Susie
>hated Bendy because of retarded gameplay shit in Chapter 2 and dropped it harder than a bad habit, but was not surprised one bit when it turned into popular casual Jewtuber shit
>I liked Baldi for what it was: a GameJam thing someone whipped up with their own creativity and hard work within 48 hours IIRC
>played a little bit of Cuphead but was able to appreciate the art for it at least
>liked FNaF before it got stupid (Ultimate Custom Night is actually pretty good though)
>too young to have actually experienced the Sonic shit firsthand beyond casually watching Sonic AM and Sonic Underground
As someone who has been a massive Undertale/Deltarunefag for quite a while and has touched most of these fandoms in one way or another, I detest the rabid autists that give their respective fandoms a bad name. I don't openly say I enjoyed any of these things in public because I don't want any guilt by association. I just want to read anon-made fanfiction, listen to fan-made OST remixes, occasionally discuss game lore with friends, etc. man. I refuse to be lumped in with Asriel/Ralseiniggers that spam gay porn everywhere they go.
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274537 No.16829270
>>16829266
I agree with this whole post 100%. Only differences is that: I like Bendy even if the games suck, and I never liked FNAF. Besides that, there's so much to enjoy, that It's rather sad that a lot of people won't give it a chance because of the few fags that will not stop shitting up everything with their dicks.
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f83c04 No.16829276
>>16829266
I get it, actually, since I threw myself into those kinds of forums because I like speculating on possibilities between characters, filling in blanks, making post-game lore or speculating on the direction Deltarune is going to go. I like writing and coming up with fiction, it's fun.
I was more of a Gaster guy, like the poster above you, mainly because based on what info we had of him and his "kids", he turns out to be a very airheaded as hell scientist with potential, namely how much autonomy he has as a void being and what his motivations are. I wrote a few short stories on Flowey and his whole monster issues thing, instead of trying to fix him, I wrote him as a character who learned to live with his new standard of sociopathy and his forced depression, mostly stuff about how after he picked himself up and got his bearings, how he'd contribute to his society with his intellectual start due to all his his self education (read every book in the underground), how he'd study his condition to find a cure, and who he married, his interactions with Alphys as he steadily forgave her and started working with her to solve his condition, had kids with, etc.
It was very comedic and even somewhat nice when the posts were rolling. But inevitably the posts run out and the porn fuckers show up to spam the thread in the off hours and bully the sensitive types out of the thread, making it really hard to get a good old pure conversation going.
It's a damn shame, honestly, that it's actually very hard to have a pure fanbase without it falling apart and getting rent apart by masturbation obsessed porn enthusiasts.
I had a little fiction corner and everything, then life hit me and I come back to the forum and what else is waiting there but retards? It's infuriating.
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274537 No.16829280
>>16829276
You want a good old pure conversation motherfricker? How about the fact that it's more likely that Gaster is simply the brother of both Sans and Papyrus rather than their father.
One piece of evidence is a tweet by Toby himself. It indicated that Papyrus had another relative and the third one is censored. However,"a father"named "Gaster"doesn't fit with the censored part instead "another brother named Gaster" does.
Although the idea of him being the father is also a good idea
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f83c04 No.16829287
>>16829280
I feel like having him as a father cements a dynamic somehow. Like, what if Sans and Papyrus, in an exceedingly dark and brutal twist, are risen skeletons created from corpses using the skeleton monster version of procreation (necromancy or something) during that big war in the past? Or maybe he created them as lab experiments and he originally didn't have a smooth face? Or maybe he was a normal skeleton, had a wife and a normal family, but she got yeeted into the void along with him, and transformed along with him?
Having him as a brother kinda removes the drama a little, but in the brother case, maybe you could give him a personality similar to an ADHD scientist type? It's like that. I think a little artistic liscence is key for this stuff. It's why he's depicted as having holes in his hands, despite not even having that in his original design, because it was misinterpreted.
It's stuff like that, that makes for good conversation. Part of the enjoyment of what are ultimately shallow-ish games is discussing it with others, socializing. It's why forums exist, honestly.
Having that degrade into porn hell is just disheartening.
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274537 No.16829298
>>16829287
While the whole necromancy angle is good, I think they simply come from another world, perhaps something akin to the world of the dead. Since it is mentioned that both Sans and Papyrus sort of "appeared" into the world of Undertale. Not to mention, Papyrus can't recognize humans. This tells me that the three brothers have the ability to travel through worlds, and simply established themselves in the Undertale world, same how Sans and Papyrus are now in the Deltarune world, with Gaster close behind.
>Having him as a brother kinda removes the drama a little, but in the brother case, maybe you could give him a personality similar to an ADHD scientist type?
Their personalities are tied to their fonts, Sans is a comic because "Comic Sans" and Papyrus is an ADHD loudmouth because of the style of the font he's named after. Gaster's font clearly is supposed to evoke mistery, so I'd see him as more of a shut in, a person far more complex than his brothers, creating a well balanced trio.
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bb034f No.16829334
>>16829266
There's only one thing I don't get about the Nomadic Trannies UT faggots:
Why do they always rush on to make fanart of whatever concept art or character they find in things they like, but I mean, not as tributes or whatever, just as self inserts for their degeneracy or to parody every single goddamn funny frame or scene from movies and cartoons from the 1940's to today's shows?
Any time some new "thing" is announced there's this rush to make the same stupid Star Wars or Seinfeld jokes over and over again.
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db3d2e No.16829352
>>16828439
That's a very enlightening explanation. Thanks anon.
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90c444 No.16829373
I cannot fucking stand how goddamn much the entire fucking community worships Sans. He was a neat character but what the fuck is up with all the fanon shit that turns him into the ultimate Gary Stu? And if I have to see one more goddamn SansXReader fic I'm gonna fucking lose it.
By the way, read Ebott's Wake. It's amazing and hilarious and full of tons of great character moments. Don't read The Golden Quiche, it starts good but quickly turns into yet another Sans dicksuck.
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227876 No.16829388
>>16829334
Because they don't actually care about the piece of media in question, hell that's why they can't get basic knowledge of the game right.
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4bdbc8 No.16829389
>>16829373
Sans is alright, the issue is that people tend to write him absurdly out of character.
eg:
-99% of his diet consisting of ketchup when in canon he drinks ketchup as a gag once, and then its never brought up again
-The whole fucking retarded fire eye thing whenever he gets mad, when in canon it doesnt go on fire it just flashes blue/yellow, and only happens when using his telekinesis shit
-Going berserk if Papyrus is even in the slightest amount of danger when in canon he's too apathetic to take action until the entire universe is on the line
-Sans being tall/big, because apparently the SansxReader writers cant handle the idea of their precious husbando canonically being a literal child-height manlet
> And if I have to see one more goddamn SansXReader fic I'm gonna fucking lose it.
The only thing worse than SansxReader is AUSansxReader.
God I fucking -despise- underfell/underswap/similar shit.
If you are going to change a character's personality, they might as well be another character entirely.
You might as well just pull OCs out your ass at that point.
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4bdbc8 No.16829391
>>16829388
This is another issue, yeah.
If you like to enjoy tormenting yourself reading trash fan fics, you can pretty easily tell a lot of vidya fanfic writers haven't actually even touched the games, just absorbed info from other fanfics and fan art.
Maybe at best they watched a lets play of it by some obnoxious dipshit.
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ce9ccb No.16829476
>>16823816
That makes no sense. Why would you care what type of fans a game has? They dont affect if the game is good or not. The fanbase might be awful for Undertale but its a great game.
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fc1299 No.16829498
>>16829270
for me Cuphead lacked only two things
>Tex Avery slut fappable for people who are only semi-total-degenerates
>bootlipped banjo-playing nigger secret final boss
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1933fc No.16829539
>>16829498
>Tex Avery style animation directly juxtaposed to the work of Max Fleischer
You dumb dumb.
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574158 No.16829558
>>16828860
And that would be? Your argument is solid once "the fandom" has enough traction to begin but what generates that initial traction?
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c44459 No.16829615
>>16823760
I don't know what Ink Machine or Baldis Basics are, or that Cuphead has a large tumblr fandom, so you might be the issue.
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c44459 No.16829625
>>16829276
This faggot and the shitty ass bunny from the first Zootopia draft, I swear to god…
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c44459 No.16829627
>>16829498
You don't need banjo-playing nigger final bosses in games full of niggers colored white to avoid controversity.
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1a24e6 No.16829659
>>16828439
That's a good explanation, but i feel you're missing a few details.
>Undertale
What helped Undertale gain a fandom was that the author had been previously involved in a similarly autistic project which shared a lot of its "quirky" writing and characters (Homestuck)
>Cuphead
Came out at a time when tumblr had started taking an interest on oldass animation, particularly rubber hose animation.
>Bendy
Similarly to Cuphead, its style became trendy at the time around tumblr and other fanart websites, and it combined this with a creepypasta-ish appeal.
>FNAF
The porn began rolling around the second game, which had featured more cutesy animatronic designs.
And again, all of these saw an influx of people thanks to jewtubers. Undertale's multiple endings and the several ways it fucked with the player made it popular with let's players. Cuphead's difficulty made it a popular let's play game. FNAF, alongside being a horror game based on jumpscares, also came along the time where Gaym Theory was becoming a popular channel.
>>16828887
>Boogie
Yeah that's some shockingly bad taste lmao
>>16829389
>AU
Now this is something that boggles my mind
>>16829615
Yeah anyone who knows of this shit to begin with is clearly knee deep in the mud.
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c44459 No.16829680
>>16829659
Here's >>16829615
I never gave a fuck about Homestuck, or who was involved with it. I was only pissed that MS Paint garbage gets that much attention and that noone cares about actual quality anymore. I refused to play Undertale for exactly the same reason, but then I gave it a chance, and it managed well to transport emotions. The game got me from the moment the home-theme played and goat-mom gives you cake, which got me teary eyed, because my childhood was trash and I get that odd nostalgic feelings when I see a childhood I never had, but wished I had.
The ending was incredibly cheesy and too much, but still, the way the game uses its music kept those moment last in my head.
But then, every game tried to be that, tried to be deep and gamers felt "clever" for understanding the "deep" (in your face) meaning. See e.g. Celeste. After Undertale, those games felt old and bandwagon-y right away. And then, fandoms who claim cut content is canon (as they always do) tried their best to make me not care about Undertale. And yes, Undertale was years ago, people should get over it. They are like bronies, clinging to their "friends" they had for a short time, because finally they knew people with the same interests.
Regarding FNAF, it's not even a friggin game. And all artists copy the style of Hotdiggedydemon now, showing shitty the actual style of the butt-ugly game is. People know it from retarded Youtubers, nothing else.
The other games… I don't even know what the hell they are. I know Cuphead, and I know its the next game everyone tries to rip off. If Bendy is that Cuphead-ripoff game, I think it looks extremely shitty. Like a low budget China version.
Whenever I see threads complaining about the next gender shit, fandoms, shit games, I wonder "Why are you bothering?" If you didn't hang around in those shitty communities, or most likely Leddit, Kotaku or Cuckchan, you wouldn't know that shit.
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c7c80e No.16829702
>>16829659
Are there any good western porn artists out there?
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f83c04 No.16830179
>>16829702
Not really. And look at enough porn and you start to see that all of it looks the same, and has about the same value as anything else. It's just a distraction to get you off, and eventually you'll just become tired of all of it a your yearning for an ethereal goal even you don't understand wrenches itself into your brain.
What do you want, success? People? Social interaction? You don't know, because you've never had it, but are left wanting for something you can't identify. And maybe you'll go to weird places you swore you would never go and kick yourself, wondering, is this really alright? Should I be here? This is retarded. But you'll become entranced with something that appeals to something wholesome that you've lacked all this time. You'll start looking at fake, made up relationships and yearn for the impossible, what you can't have, what you desperately need.
And life passes by, not giving a shit. You get older and older, your old hobbies fall away, your brain begins to change with age and suddenly you wake up sore for no reason. You don't regret your life. Not one bit, because it was out of your control anyway. What you "could have done" was simply impossible for you. Any slights you might have made fade with time, as do your childhood dreams as you become more and more "mature" and lose the jubilance of your youth. Things just don't make you happy anymore.
Why? That's a question you'll ask from time to time. But there are things that drown those thoughts out. But even they stop working after enough time. And you face your worst fear, confronting your inner monologue, running from yourself. It's not like you're the only one who does that though. But that worries you. There's no idols to turn to to figure out ways to deal with your pain. You're not alone in your pain, but because everyone else feels the same, they too cannot escape it.
And in that way you realize you're alone with the broken sufferers. They can't escape it either.
And then you wonder, is this Hell? I hope you decide to spit in the face of it and continue on with your life.
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274537 No.16830187
>>16830179
That Sans needs Gaster in his life.
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f83c04 No.16830199
>>16830187
A little bit, yeah.
I'm just so very tired.
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9f4651 No.16830273
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37c69c No.16831331
Redpill me on Danganronpa.
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f83c04 No.16831345
>>16831331
It turns from a slightly interesting slaughterfest into an anime meme where despair and hope are pushed harder then the power of friendship and the heart of the cards, to the point that they become meaningless words.
It is essentially deviantart. You know those badly drawn comics where sephiroth or shadow cries about being super edgy and everyone acts like a dumbass for no reason?
That's the game. Even the devs got burnt out on it really quickly, it was just supposed to be a stylized detective whodunnit with teenagers but the internet edgybois from low rent art sites started jacking off.
The 3rd game exhibits this, where the "audience" is the enemy, and the last act of the game is a un-subtle metaphor for how the devs view their audience and none of it takes place in the original universe. Even the devs didn't want to make it.
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0ceaa3 No.16831356
>>16830179
You sound like you have depression anon. You probably feel dead because you act like a semblance of a corpse. I'm only presuming, but given you browse image boards you're more likely to not like leaving the house, probably don't exercise much, just sit in front of your monitor and twitch your wrist while clicking, and you don't talk to anyone either. I would suggest that if you want to stop feeling like a corpse you stop doing a fine impression of one.
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a4597e No.16831381
>>16831331
Only the first game is worth playing. The writing takes a nosedive as soon as the second game and it somehow gets worse as it goes on. If you play the first game, its best to assume that anything that didn't get explained isn't going to get a good explanation.
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f83c04 No.16831390
>>16831356
I've been told that before, but I don't know what other people do, and few things really appeal to me. What do other people do with their time? What else is there to do? That's what the vicious cycle here is. What exactly do YOU do to keep yourself busy? It's hard to comprehend much else when all you know is all you've been doing.
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c8f4b4 No.16831392
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f83c04 No.16831396
>>16831392
is it me you're looking for
I can see it in your eyes
I can see it in your smile
yo what's up
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ae04a5 No.16831413
>>16831396
Just trying to post.
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54de1e No.16831461
>>16831331
Most of the characters are actually interesting to speak to. The first game was great and even though I wouldn't believe someone when they said the second game's cast were better, I think they're at least as good. The translation does have a FAKE NEWS reference, but I think that was it.
Really fucking long to play. Essentially VNs, but still neat to see who gets killed next and find out what's really happening, but you'll have to play both games, read a light novel, play the spinoff (this one has actual gameplay and was semi-fun), and watch DGRP3 to get everything.
You can romance every character, even the guys, but it doesn't get raunchy.
Also easily spoiled so you shouldn't even be asking that question here if you gave a fuck. You've been warned, faggot
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f83c04 No.16831493
>>16831331
>>16831461
Oh, right, I forgot to spoil it.
Junko Enoshima used a body double and she's the killer in Danganronpa 1
In Danganronpa 2 all of the classmates are in a VR simulation and all of them were brainwashed into becoming murderers so the purpose of the simulation is to "reset" them into better personalities. Your main character was the worst out of all of them, and the main villain is a Junko Enoshima AI who was planted in the program to ruin it.
Danganronpa V3 takes place on a gameshow that's based on Danganronpa 1 and 2's universe, and everyone there had their personalities totally erased to play the characters of the show. The cosplayer girl is the final villain, and was planted there to move the story along, she's one of the show writers. The robot kid is the camera that the audience sees through. The last execution has the robot sucide bomb the whole set, with the last few players escaping out into the real world, unsure if it's even real or not, or if it's still part of the show.
The danganronpa shooter has no real spoilers, since it's not a mystery game.
The anime is shit.
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48bba5 No.16831585
>>16824960
I unironically love Undertale, but this is great. Most of the threads attracted /v/'s biggest fags and I dont know why they have to force their shit fetish on everyone.
God I hate fags.
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54de1e No.16831617
>>16831493
>The danganronpa shooter has no real spoilers, since it's not a mystery game.
You could have at least made an attempt. I bet you didn't even play it, faggot. The only DGRP game with actual gameplay.
>The anime is shit.
True, the one that was based on the first game was, but DGRP3 was a little fun. You even get to see a faggot get skewered.
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9f4651 No.16831626
>>16831493
>You will never date Mukuro
>Monaca will never fuck you or with your mind
I must admit, though, I really liked the idea behind Super Despair Girls, and it was overall an enjoyable game And to this day I still cry the death of Asahina's brother and how she could felt when she found out he died.
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f83c04 No.16831650
>>16831585
I bet you play VRchat with an anime girl avatar ya faaaaag
No, but seriously, I think the reason it gets so faggy is because anons don't have a fag outlet on here.
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cd638e No.16831659
>>16831650
Honestly bottling the gay isn't a good habit to have, it just makes a big mess everywhere once it finally goes off
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22ac56 No.16831675
>>16831650
That used to be the niche /cuteboys/ or /trapshota/ filled, and as cancerous as they were, id rather have them around and ignore them then have to deal with
THE GAY COMMUNITY
while talking about vidya
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6439ef No.16831677
what happen with 8chnl.net guys?
why it was hack by "archive.today" ???
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48bba5 No.16831751
>>16831650
I don't play VRchat but I do have a anime avatar.
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f6952c No.16831788
>>16831461
>Also easily spoiled so you shouldn't even be asking that question here if you gave a fuck.
Well that is too bad because I want to know if the hope/despair thing was a allegory for something but I'm not going to tumblr for that.
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5d6367 No.16831819
>>16824977
>Let's Players. That's it
This. Let's players are friend/nice older sibling simulators for kids (especially of the lonely or autistic varieties), so they emotionally attach after hours of watching them to the shit they watch through.
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cd638e No.16832601
>>16831819
You know, it's kinda sad that's a "market", even worse so, a lot of them know they're exploiting lonely kids. Everyone should have a big bro in their life.
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1ee27d No.16832863
>>16823760
>fujoshits
you answered your own question.
shipping characters, creating oc, creating oc babies of shipped characters, it's all just young women playing with the idea of children and playing house
it isn't married mothers or young men doing this stuff
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1f0e9e No.16833731
>>16832834
Actually, the whole adhd thing is because a lot of it was mistaken for simply poor behavior.
Hell the name for the condition is fucking awful at describing what goes on since it's a genetic disorder that numbs the fuck out of the nerves in your brain making you understimulated as shit which results in the "hyperactive" behavior since the brain throws a gigantic fit since it isn't being stimulated (or more accurately, is not being stimulated enough to feel stimulated). Shit adhd is ridiculously comorbid with BPD and Depression later in life if you aren't treated, and more to a general point the social isolation that has resulted from social media bullshit has left people socially starved.
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3b94fe No.16833753
>>16830179
>all that gay shit you wrote
.webm related
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3437d5 No.16834029
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60faca No.16834214
>>16832601
>>16831819
>>16832834
This is true, but I think has been so ever since television, perhaps even music to some extend.
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12a96f No.16835059
>>16832834
What's interesting is in the Harlow monkey experiments they did tests where they put baby monkeys with fake parents, no real monkey parents were present and the testers didn't socialize the babies
The babies with no mother or soft substitute to seek emotional reassurance with ended up developing severe autistic like behaviors such as rocking back and forth, increased screaming, not being able to overcome surprises as well, and even showing increased levels of fear and aggression toward others
Being that monkeys and humans are both very social creatures, I believe a big part of the rise in autism and other similar disorders is due to a lack of appropriate socialization during their young developmental stages, so really outside of actual genetic retardation being the cause, it's the parents fault their children are autists
When they chose to have one kid and raise it alone with a vacant nanny while both parents work, it's no wonder the kid turns out with stunted emotional and social growth
The face-to-face time children are getting with parents is steadily shrinking due to social media being a cheap substitute, who knows how bad this emotional void will be in future generations
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1f0e9e No.16835142
>>16835059
It's even worse now, considering actually socializing, which was something you could roughly do in the past over the internet is at best actively discouraged because leaving any sort of trail behind that someone could point to as any sort of bad behavior by some standard is likely to have you isolated from your peers instantaneously.
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849453 No.16835143
a bit late, but i'd say it comes from having extreme characters that are relatable and have very open ended stories (eg: bendy, cuphead, monika).
it makes a good thing to base comics off of.
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9448ce No.16836183
>>16829266
>Played the Undertale demo years ago because someone made a thread about it
>Loved it and followed the development for like 3 years, occasionally having the odd twitter convo with Toby
>Explore Toby's other work, it's good
>Game comes out
>Love it, beat it day 1
>Threads are good
>I am happy
>3 days after release Tumblr latches on, becomes a "fandom" game and all discussion of it
>Threads go to shit because of tumblr/furfags and autists that want to "fight" them by shitting up the thread
WE HAD 3 FUCKING DAYS
IT'S NOT FAIR
IT WAS TOO QUICK
WHY CAN'T I HAVE NICE THINGS?
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1f0e9e No.16836335
>>16836183
If it makes you feel any better. The tumblrites (that weren't here) and the autists shrieking at them don't have any real connection to the game, and inadvertently it led to a suicide prevention.
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12a96f No.16836824
>>16829258
Gaster is a cool dude
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12a96f No.16836835
>>16829498
>bootlipped banjo-playing nigger secret final boss
Who?
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6adee9 No.16836874
>>16832834
You were spot on until the second paragraph.
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750da3 No.16836918
>>16835059
>The babies with no mother or soft substitute to seek emotional reassurance with ended up developing severe autistic like behaviors such as rocking back and forth, increased screaming, not being able to overcome surprises as well, and even showing increased levels of fear and aggression
Really makes me think. Also reminds me that I'll never let anyone beside my wife and myself raise my kids.
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2e6699 No.16836992
These games are made for teenagers and even younger kids. What do kids and teenagers have in common worldwide, including Japan? That's right, the majority of them are fucking stupid. When you're making fun of a Tumblrina's yaoi fanfics, you're making fun of a kid. When you're making fun of some faggot who thinks Undertale is the best game ever made, you're making fun of a kid.
Stop taking what kids think so seriously. I mean sure, make fun of them since that's what helps them move on from kid stuff, but don't think for a second that their dumbass kid behavior is some sort of worldwide phenomenon that needs to be studied.
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4caec2 No.16836998
>>16836992
You're not wrong, but it really isn't going to do any good to preach at kids about how what they like is shit. Even if it's the music of the Gorillaz, or if they like some shit game.
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0b5a5c No.16837409
>>16823760
>>16823789
Yea man these people will totally just follow trend to trend. I've noticed this in many artists. I think they're just going along with the culture. Like how normalfags do except with normalfag shit
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0b5a5c No.16837410
>>16837409
Forgot to mention. They're the people that will actually say "fandom." Like bang on about "I'm in the fandom" and this gay shit. For comparison anybody else would say "I'm a fan of X"
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77c217 No.16837511
>>16829558
Usually the first hook is something that the original medium does par excellence. While many other aspects of the game or property have fatal flaws that lead to a desire to improve upon them, this aspect is so good that it draws attention and defies derivation.
Undertale's initial draw has always been its music. Radiation spent years immersed in touhou, earthbound, and fighting game autism and produced music that appealed directly to that audience. They are compositionally sound and even professional musicians rave about the clever ways motifs and momenta were reused and redefined throughout the game. Rarely does the music come up when criticizing Undertale or questioning its success, and when it does, the person is usually thoroughly outnumbered, even when alone with fellow critics. Most fan OC changes many things, but not this. Few dare even make new songs mimicking his style, fewer still or none (I am no expert) fully depart from it.
Musical excellence is a common initial draw because it is easy to convey and easy to share. Music spreads fast by word of mouth. That isn't the only way, however.
FNAF drew attention and longevity from Cawthorn's unique background and style in modeling and animation. The gameplay and plot are much more rote, but they are carried by how he conveys them to the player. The odd, almost 'Japanese PS2 tech demo'-like CG he used is the first thing many people see from the game, and makes just watching it (where let's plays get their traction) stand out from the horde of flat unity3d horror games of its time. Now that I think about it, his CG really does remind me of Moon RPG. In any case, most fan OC changes many things, but not this.
I think you get the gist. One good idea and a slew of bad ones capture the imagination and start up the momentum to build a lively portfolio of OC and interest.
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04fc49 No.16837548
>>16837511
Both of your examples were also enormously popular almost from day one with furries. I'm not saying that all you need to do to get popular is to pander to that crowd, but it can't hurt to have a gaggle of clingy autists welded to you.
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6a18ed No.16837722
>>16837548
Well if you want to be that blunt about it, both were immensely popular on /v/ as well. of course that immediately leads to the discussions involving half of /v/ being furfag, and additionally every game you like being Fandom shit, except when it isn't
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04fc49 No.16837813
>>16837722
There's also the fact that both Undertale and FNAF each have a fangame or two due to their relatively easy-to-copy gameplay. Many fangames including a porn game in the latter case. I have no idea if any of this is relevant or not, and neither Cuphead nor Bendy have any fangames as far as I know. I'm kinda just spitting out facts at this point.
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e278e6 No.16837872
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>16823760
hollow knight got a decent fandom in japan
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091375 No.16837973
>>16823760
I have a theory that games/shows that have those "art styles" tend to attract these sped fans. Most notably its the calarts look or similar to (oversimplified western styles). Its more common in western shit like Steven Universe or Undertale, but Japan experienced it as well with Osomatsu-san (yes I know its from some ancient manga artist who made Bakabon, I'm more focused on the recent adaptation). Osomatsu fujos were such notorious spergs that even other fujos couldn't stand them. There were a fuck ton of them who made up fairy tales and posted it on twitter, like how the teacher is a friend of one of the VAs. Pic related is an incident of a fujo making up a story about how she epicly pwned the bullies at her school, as well as an accurate redraw of what actually happened.
I think Boku no Pico Academia has this symptom too, its close but I don't think its quite there yet.
Its just something about that specific, round-shape art style that brings the worst kind of fans. And the 'more accessible' to mainstream appeal, the worse it gets
https://invidio.us/watch?v=_ztUPb2MCNA
tl;dr though cuphead got a fair share of its shit, it was less compared to FNAF due to, again, inaccessibility.
I fucking went all over the place but yeah
>>16823789
Japs call those trend hoppers "inago" (イナゴ) which just means 'locust' , but I love "autistic nomads" much more.
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eb39e3 No.16838008
>>16837973
That sounds more like Chūnibyō.
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311969 No.16838010
I always assumed it's because they are unintentional Let's Play bait(But there are some games that are obvious LP bait) the audience for that shit is children or women. Still can't see why they'd want to fuck some stupid looking shit like Baldi, or Cuphead.
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eb39e3 No.16838043
>>16823791
>Faces are not proper faces
Because they cannot look at people in the face. Sonic characters are cyclops, fun fact the gene named after Sonic also is related to cyclopia as well as causing slow muscle to from instead of fast, and so are Osomatsu-san's to an extent, as they are touching. Sonic and Undertale characters have face shapes that are not at all face shaped
>Characters can be identified by a specific colors
Not sure about this one, I think it has to do with their difuculty dealing with change, in that kids are shown bright monocolor characters early on and they just can't do without it. Is in Sonic, FNAF, Undertale, and from the looks of it Osomatsu-san.
>Same basic character shape
Related to insistence on sameness, Osomatsu-san's main characters are pallet swaps and Sonic has this as well to an extent.
>Catchrpases
Autists like to repeat statements. Sonic has a few of them, Your too slow, come on step it up.
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eb39e3 No.16838047
>>16838043
Also on the concept of being introduced into them at a young age and sticking with it, its probably not a bad idea to give kids, regardless of sex dolls/action figures of "humans", rather then human characters. Lego don't count becuase they are not humans.
Also how the fuck did I forget about fucking Lego, and how they meet the criteria from above.
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eb39e3 No.16838048
>>16838047
>its probably not a bad idea to give kids, regardless of sex dolls/action figures
its probably not a bad idea to give kids; regardless of sex, dolls/action figures
Woops, that was a pretty bad punctuation error
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fed295 No.16838237
You know maybe it'd be more practical to ask someone who likes these games why they like them?
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02b7e2 No.16838418
>>16823760
Are we having this thread again? Okay, let me explain to you why all the series you've mentioned become big with the fandom crowd.
It's because there's a lot to talk about. It's a social vehicle to these people. It's become a joke to call plot information or backstory details "deep lore" because of these people. These people treat these video games with a book club mentality.
Undertale, Bendy and Five Nights are games that people can socialize nigh endlessly over theory crafting and lore digging. They can make friends with people over a shared interest that has a lot to discuss. That's all they care about. They want lore, implications and characters that are easy to make funny and/or erotic fan-art out of. And it's all for the hope that they can talk to people, maybe gain some internet clout and feel less alone.
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02b7e2 No.16838432
>>16838418
Now, what would make this thread actually worth having, is discussing how the fuck do these people seem to have a magical ability to detect these kinds of games? Because I've already told you the WHY. But the question that I don't think anyone has figured is the HOW. How did people who are 99% the same end up all flocking to Undertale? You could say the game just knew it's audience really well. You could say that things about it's simple art and presentation were attractive to the Tumblr crowd who like to draw but aren't good enough at it to draw art of something more technically impressive. Endless reasons one could think up as to how.
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0b602d No.16838458
I'm of the opinion that the phenomenon people are talking about this thread is mostly in peoples' heads. Each of the fan communities for these games is annoying, which makes them stand out in the first place or we wouldn't be talking about them. Next, they're annoying in the same ways, and so people assume it's the same assholes in each of them rather than different assholes behaving similarly. Then they autism up pet theories as to why the games are connected in some deep way so they can complain about society. You can probably explain crossover between SOME of the fan communities by other preexisting communities with strong central influence (youtube personalities, streamers' followers, etc.) being led by the nose from one game to another, and you can probably explain crossover between SOME other communities by pointing to very strong external factors like cartoon porn, but there probably isn't some central identifiable human defect connecting ALL of the communities mentioned in the thread. Sometimes five separate crowds of assholes are just five separate crowds of assholes even if a few of the assholes show up in more than one crowd.
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2be962 No.16838461
>>16838432
I still think it'd work out better to actually ask someone who likes these kinds of things.
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000000 No.16838475
>>16829659
>The porn began rolling around the second game
Fucking bullshit, the first game is the one that got (and still gets) most porn by far, and quite a few of it was immediately after release.
>>16829680
>And all artists copy the style of Hotdiggedydemon now
Is this bait?
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a8be57 No.16838746
>>16829659
>CupheadCame out at a time when tumblr had started taking an interest on oldass animation, particularly rubber hose animation.
We all agree that cuphead is better than the other games right?
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458cc5 No.16838761
lmao @ all the armchair psychology and sociology in this thread
like >>16832834 for example
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69b367 No.16838770
>>16838746
Strictly on a technical level, sure.
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0a8811 No.16839178
>>16838761
Post your degree, faggot, if you think you're hot shit
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34944b No.16843623
>>16823816
I will never understand the appeal of any game or anime where every character is a "cute" girl
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700ef0 No.16843862
>>16838761
Those fields are jokes anyway. Its why people love coming up with their own bullshit. Its so easy to pass off as "real" psychology/sociology.
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97823c No.16844071
>>16843623
What girls do you prefer?
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0c018e No.16844083
I keep fucking reading this thread's title as "femdom games"
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07a43a No.16844249
The catalyst for all of this is Homestuck. Everyone I know who likes stuff like those games was obsessed with Homestuck.
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1f0e9e No.16844901
>>16844249
Yeah, but when you say "obsessed with homestuck" that could refer to several things.
People that actually sat down and read the whole fuckin thing?
Some gaylord that heard it was neat and skimmed any number of wikis?
Someone who just wants to stick their dick in Vriskabot?
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a8be57 No.16845053
>>16844901
Trolls are trash
You can't knock them up. Their reproductive system is designed specifically to allow for faggotry, and frankly it makes no sense that they even have two sexes in the firstplace giving how their reproduction works
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12a96f No.16845090
>>16845053
Sounds kinda stupid
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1f0e9e No.16845133
>>16845090
Oh, it's totally stupid.
Honestly, going into any of the extra lore that isn't on the main line of Sburb is pretty retarded.
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04fc49 No.16845154
>>16845053
Smarmy shit like that is the reason I couldn't get into that citadel of faggotry in the first place.
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d2ce23 No.16861188
Can anyone that likes undertale explain why he likes it?
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f83c04 No.16861222
>>16861188
Gameplay wise, It's a good, short game with unique elements to it, namely the bullet hell stuff weaved into the talk system, where you can influence what happens based on what you say.
Storywise, the characters are legitimately funny at times but aren't one note, with lore and one-off comments implying parts of their personality that you don't directly see, like Sans' depression and awareness of the time loops, Papyrus actually being stronger in a fight then Undyne but too kind to actually go all out like she does, Mettaton's whole ghost brother thing, etc. Really fleshes the characters out and draws interest into speculation, since some people like to lore-dive and figure out this stuff, which is fueled by random events that only happen once per playthrough and creates a vauge myth arc that requires serious digging, with some of the events being foreshadowed by other smaller events so you can tell what's going to happen. Even though it's been datamined to hell, the fact that it got people to datamine with it's whole meta plot makes for a good discussion.
Outside of that, it appeals to people with depression or minor social problems with it's whole positive message, save for that whole thing with Asriel being unable to be saved, which essentially fueled every fanfic possible.
In other words, it appeals to people because it knows it's audience and didn't pretend to go after anyone else. He took his knowledge of the whole Homestuck fandom thing, boiled it down into something less "toxic" (Homestuck had this huge relationship chart weirdness made out of autism alongside some other stuff, this doesn't have that and is way easier to talk about) and sent it out into the public.
Essentially what Homestuck did by accident, Undertale did intentionally, which was to cultivate a fandom to keep it going in the minds of people for years despite not having much due to the indie scene. Intentional or not, it hits the right notes for some people.
It helps that it's an actual game, though.
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88ae49 No.16861451
Is there any fandom that isn't cancer?
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71f216 No.16861472
>>16861451
Kinda depends on what you'd include in a "Fandom", but as a rule, no not really.
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a8be57 No.16861718
>>16861222
>it appeals to people with depression or minor social problems
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d3707b No.16861742
>>16861718
To be fair, depression doesn't really have that much of an impact on your objective presented social skills. Coping is both an assistant and a hindrance in that aspect.
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6c4389 No.16861809
>>16861188
It's a geniuently well portrayed story about obsession that uses it's meta-elements in a way that actually furthers the narrative. It isn't perfect but it is really original and interesting.
The game basically goes like this: It starts you out as a player set in a world with fun characters, that all seem to have a problem with letting go of something.
Toriel with literally letting go of you.
Papyrus of letting go of his dream of becoming a Royal Knight.
Undyne letting go of the war with humans.
Alphys of her regrets but fuck her, she deserved to regret everything and kill herself
Asgore of the death of Chara as well as his wish for revenge/hope.
All those characters commit some form of evil because they can't let go of something. As the protagonist you go and help them come to terms with all those things, and grow attatched to them, while also knowing that you can experiment with your choices. The game is made so that you feel attatched to the characters, replay the game until you reach the good ending, and then, the game tells you to stop. It tells you to leave behind all of those characters that you've grown to like and move on.
But you don't have to, the idea is that you will repeat everything out of either attatchement or curiosity and then finally get to genocide ending, where the game starts talking about obsessive behaviour by introducing you closer to Chara and Flowey. Flowey is even used as a stand-in for the player as he talks about constantly repeating the events until he broke his suspension of disbelief and started looking at the characters as just text boxes and numbers, just like someone who plays a game over and over again would feel.
It all culminates with the fight with Sans where he keeps telling you that you should finally give up, and if you don't, you will destroy the world and characters you liked because of your obsession over the game.
It's not perfectly done, but it's a very cool structure, you basically won't need to see the lesson if you don't need to learn it in theory.
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e746ef No.16861839
>>16861188
I've asked an authority on it, he said "Mr. Asgore makes me happy".
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85e526 No.16861922
>>16830273
This comic is actually kind of funny.
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405506 No.16861925
>>16861839
That sounds absolutely faggoty.
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57b54b No.16863771
>>16861839
How exactly do you become an authority on something like that
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b96152 No.16878462
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fa28fe No.16878988
would you classify these as "fandom" games? I notice they tend to share the same audience.
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2637a7 No.16879012
>>16838432
Games with easy to digest elements that aren't too difficult and have a modicum of story if you do more than the bare minimum of game play.
>>16838461
Personally I played Undertale because it was fucking everywhere and it didn't look like your typical RPG. I was interested in Cuphead because I like Fleischer Era cartoons and Contra style games but I never played it. The other three I never gave a shit about.
A healthy dose of GOTIS and faggotry is probably what carried a few of them considering the cutesy art styles.
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35416e No.16879037
>>16878988
All but Hotline Miami never took off and didn't get the OC factory or the obsession the OPhad. There was very little lore autism for them to latch on to, or at least the kind that attracts the autists that become the lifeblood of the thing.
My theory is that Lisa is too unpleasant and Katana Zero was generally unknown and is too incomplete Where the fuck is the second half.
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07d59f No.16879091
>>16878988
LISA has a pretty fucky fanbase. I remember exploring the pointless wiki and coming across a bunch of vore shit
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27a314 No.16879106
>>16878988
I've literally seen noone talk about these games, and Hotline Miami isn't some emotional hipster shit trash. Maybe you are the problem and Steam's dick is too deep in your mouth.
Pff. PC master race.
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27a314 No.16879107
>>16879012
You didn't give a shit about the other three because like a sane person, you don't touch any shit that wants to make a buck by ripping off the current hype.
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d8df2f No.16879814
>>16879037
Hotline Miami has "lore" especially when you get into the second game and you actually see the American-Soviet War and go a little bit deeper into 50 Blessings. But as you said, its not the right kind of lore. Everything is obvious if you look hard enough. The game outright tells you things, Like Pardo being the Miami Mutilator or Beard being dead all along. For "lore autism" things have to be somewhat obscured for that "DEEPEST LORE!!!11!1!!!1!" factor.
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774593 No.16880332
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618bf2 No.16880726
>>16880332
well don't leave us hanging, Anon.
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4aa94a No.16881333
Your favorite game now has shitty fandom. What will you do?
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6d9581 No.16881378
>>16881333
Nothing, because I'm not a retard swayed by opinions of others on something I enjoy.
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292a8e No.16893457
>>16823789
I've never heard about the concept of the autistic nomads and it's like something has clicked in my brain now holy shit.
Also F for Danganronpa
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97823c No.16893538
>>16881333
What would Sin and Punishment suddenly having a shitty fandom be like? Earth-chan jokes being run into the ground?
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25ef86 No.16893593
>What exactly attracts the fujoshits to these games in this specific manner?
Gay shipping.
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