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 No.425823

So preparing myself for my DnD 5e session that is supposed to start in Baldur's Gate, I begun looking through the modules for some info on the city and so I have downloaded both Descent into Avernus and Muder at Baldur's Gate. While Murder at Baldur's Gate is absolutely amazing with the amount of information that it gives you, Descent into Avernus seems just absolutely fucking bizarre to me when reading through the information provided about the city. The fucking Flaming Fist is now some brutal police force that forces the citizens to form into semi-worker unions to protect themselves from their brutality? What in the name of fuck is that? I know that Flaming Fist is not really a good organization but a neuutral one, and can be pretty brutal, but the fact is that they are still a lawful neutral organization which tries to keep order in an otherwise lawless city. The description in Descent into Avernus makes them seem far too evil.

I admit that I'm new to Forgotten Realms lore and a fresh DM, so I wanted to ask you guys for some material and explanation.

Was The Flaming Fist always like that? Or is this some retards pushing their own agenda onto them? If they are indeed like that, could you show some material that shows that? Either a book or official adventure.

Also thread for general module discussion

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 No.425824

File: ab5e80c66598d19⋯.png (32.33 KB,565x224,565:224,Murder in Baldur's Gate.PNG)

File: 4df4620438cb6ed⋯.png (386.29 KB,577x466,577:466,Avernus 1.PNG)

File: 0cb83974ee7e97d⋯.png (371.34 KB,564x422,282:211,Avernus 2.PNG)

I mean fucking look at this, somehow in Murder's in Baldur's Gate the common folk are fucking celebrating the reestablishment of the contract between Baldur's Gate and Flaming Fist. In Descent into Avernus somehow they turned into a cruel police force which opresses their fucking people. There is just a 10 years difference between those two adventures and the ruler of the Flaming Fist didn't fucking change. Murder in Baldur's Gate was in 1482 and Descent into Avernus was in 1492.

What in the name of fuck happened here? Why the fuck did the people of Baldur's Gate suddenly form gangs to protect themselves from apparently oppresive Flaming Fist?

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 No.425825

File: 848cc2bcfd5f4f0⋯.png (61.64 KB,718x446,359:223,Murder in Baldur's Gate- p….PNG)

>>425824

Whoops, posted the wrong extert from Murder in Baldur's Gate.

This is the one I'm talking about.

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 No.425829

Editing is a tool of the patriarchy.

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 No.425912

>>425823

Its always a safe assumption to assume WotC fucked up, or that 5e lore is contradictory to old lore.

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 No.425913

>>425823

More or less. An over-bloated mercenary company, mutual financial interest with the city, and also hired as BG "army" since their base is there anyway. And yes, one of the Dukes is their guy.

Take a look at "Gold and Glory", it's a splatbook on FR mercenaries:

web.archive.org/web/20040916023319/www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

Or see Old Grey Box (FRCS v.1), same deal.

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