No.418494 [Last50 Posts]
What's your fave weapon for when you have to get up close & personal? Knives, swords, spears, clubs?
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No.418497
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No.418498
Mace on fire is the best weapon a man can use in any situation in his life. Spears are peasant choice. Swords are alright, but nothing special. And I dont understand why anyone would use lance in real fight. Impaling someone from distance sounds good, but if you fail you cant really do anything except using it as awkward club.
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No.418502
I'm a filthy casual. I like impractically large swords. Because I played FFVII at a young age.
And recognize that pretty much all types of polearms are the better choice.
>>418498
Lances are a weird weapon. They are meant as a one and done weapon. EIther because they shatter, or because, yes, you're going more close combat after you break through a line. Which is why secondary weapons like swords, mauls, axes, etc, are good to have at hand. They are most effective when in a mounted formation. To fuck up shield walls, phalanxes, other cavalry. Using the full momentum of the charge focused on a single point. Which means you want to make sure your lance is longer then their lances or their polearms.
And yeah, if you look up reiters, cuirassiers, you see just how lances were ditched. Because that's the thing, when it comes to war, those that fail to adapt get left behind.
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No.418503
>>418494
The stick if it's a bar fight/street fight situation, a short sword or axe if it's a battle situation 9where armor is relevant).
>>418498
>Spears are peasant choice
Spears are top tier tbh.
>And I dont understand why anyone would use lance in real fight
Either for charges (after which you drop it) or spear wall/phalanx.
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No.418505
I'm a shameless spearaboo, so when decent short spears or even just properly respected polearms are an option, that's what I'll gravitates towards. The sword has its place as an iconic weapon of medieval fantasy, but the polearm is the true king. Fists are good too, I guess.
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No.418514
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No.418515
In general, I like heroic and practical looking weapons but I'm not a big fan of too much realism.
I'm a big fan of the good old sword & board. There's just something very heroic and knightly about that, so they are my prime choice. Scimitars are fine too, as are various kinds of polearms.
I also think flails are heaviely underused but then again they wouldn't be my weapon of choice either.
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No.418517
I'm quite partial to rapiers, they just seem to be very intuitive for me. I know that if I would ever try to get into HEMA, then I would choose them. They may have rather limited uses, but I still find them pretty sweet.
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No.418519
>>418494
falchions, war picks, curved swords.
if the setting permits, the idea of superheated blades really gets me going
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No.418705
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No.418721
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No.418723
Warhammers of course
>simple
>can be as long or short as you want
>greatest version of the timeless club
>fuck your armor
>fuck your meatsack inside of it
>fuck you
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No.418724
>>418721
How's that carpal tunnel treating you?
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No.418735
STHIL 660 magnum with a 28 inch bar and full skip chain. Straight cut ripper chain if possible.
Or the new STHIL 500I once it comes out. Fuel injected chainsaw with the weight of a 460 and the power of a 660? Yes please.
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No.418736
>>418494
Goedengag
When a group of pissed off peasants can run off the best French knight with the thing, it's hard to not like it.
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No.418737
>>418724
I don't have weak womanly hands like you elf.
>>418736
What makes this so good? The spear point looks really sturdy, but is it longer than the picture makes it seem?
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No.418741
>>418737
The shaft was shoulder height (avg 5 foot) and the head was a solid piece of steel with a spike on it. I was essentially a long handled mace with a stabbing spike on it. There's quite a bit f variety on how they were made too. I've seen them with spike perpendicular coming out radially from the head as well.
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No.418746
>>418741
Were they good against knights on horseback, or just infantry?
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No.418749
>>418746
According to historical accounts, yes. Apparently they straight up wrecked the french knights on horse back so badly that they were outlawed and the french military fully withdrew from Flanders.
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No.418751
>>418749
How embarrassing.
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No.418752
>>418751
I love stories about working men showing what they're made of.
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No.418771
>>418736
>>418749
>>418752
A reminder that the Flemish peasants had all the terrain advantages and the French got stuck on hard terrain with their horses.
Not long after that the Flemish peasant army got utterly destroyed by another French army around Brussels I believe where terrain wasn't as marshy.
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No.418800
>>418771
>Not long after that the Flemish peasant army got utterly destroyed by another French army around Brussels I believe where terrain wasn't as marshy.
This is all of history. Still, for one important moment in high middle ages, regular men beat some of the best military units in the world at the time. "Do not be sad that it is over, be happy that it happened at all."
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No.418804
>>418737
>Flail-fag
>still can't find a pic with a flail user
How sad.
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No.418816
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>>418497
One and done, everybody go home.
Although sword bayonet and rifle butt is also a good choice.
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No.418870
>>418804
All my flail wielders are skeletons. What now?
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No.418881
>>418870
>All my flail wielders died
Seems to prove his point to be honest.
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No.418926
>>418723
Doubling warhammers.
As for improvised weaponry, kama looks sweet.
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No.418935
>>418881
>implying they weren't the only ones worth bringing back
Maybe the archers can be brought back as guards for a low rent inn.
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No.418955
Spearfags never done SCA bullshit, let alone other fighting trash.
Spears are good for outfitting a large force and they're easy to train, but a good sword + board user can beat out any other melee weapon type at no less than 60/40, assuming equal competence on both sides. Mass unit tactics are a bit different, but once you know what you're doing, you can block and counter against any other attackers. And that's even considering that groups like the SCA tend to nerf shields like hell by not letting you just beat the shit out of plebs with your shield.
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No.418969
>>418955
Historical records and modern research contradict what you say. A solitary spearman can stand one on one with a sword and board.
There's a recent video of this being demonstrated (using SCA participants) by Lindybeige.
I will say that skill matters more than any weapon and more often sword users are better trained. Often times, spear wielders weren't trained at all but when they were they dominated melee on the battlefield.
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No.418970
I enjoy practice with a staff, but I'd probably choose to go with a pilum and tower shield.
From experience, I was once challenged "go ahead and hit me" from 10 feet away with a guy holding his kite shield and comically oversized sword. I shrugged and threw.
He wasn't happy.
We must have been about 8/9 years old and were using metal pieces of car wrapped in tape for a sword, the "pilum" stand in was a plastic tent pole and it went straight into his sternum and knocked him down, winding him.
I miss getting scars on our hands as we genuinely try to get past eachother's guard to score a stupid potentially and deadly hit with our underdeveloped muscles and heavy swords.
I still remember this Jonathan
Wielding a kite shield and a two-hander without a handguard was never going to end well
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No.418971
>>418970
>stupid potentially and deadly hit
stupid and potentially deadly hit*
I can't be bothered to delete and repost it corrected.
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No.419001
>>418935
There are no dead archers, they were still alive.
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No.419005
>>419001
>there are no dead archers
Now you're not talking any sense.
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No.419006
>>419005
I meant in the context of your story that the flailers died and were the only ones worth resurrecting.
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No.419013
Take any kind of ancient weapons, like rhomphaia, falx, kopis or falcata. Falx was a weapon that forced the Roman legions to change their armament. I wish people remembered that European Ancients weren't all Greeks and Romans, and there were more distinct peoples out there like Thracians, Dacians, Scythians or Iberians.
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No.419049
>>419013
This, Falcata's are especially cool
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No.419081
>>418494
>look how much of a special snowflake i am, so unique and different!
The only difference is the word you use to describe what you smack your enemy with. It has no effect on the mechanics. Why is it there in the first place other than to show everyone how special and unique you are.
sage for cuckchan tier thread.
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No.419088
>>419081
Look who plays boring RPGs everyone.
Point and laugh at the person who's GM does nothing to add flavour.
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No.419089
>>419081
>no effect on the mechanics
Play better games faggot. Fantasy Craft has entire feat trees that change how weapons work, unique to their category, and every weapon type has unique features. Genesys and the other rules lite garbage games you seem to think make up the whole industry are just that - garbage.
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No.419093
>Kanobo
Fat fucking stick with studs on it that breaks bones and was traditionally, mythologically, used by Oni because it was a cruel thing to do to someone. The idea of a weapon that is just a fancily engineered club just always appealed to me.
>Urumi
On the other end of the spectrum is a weapon that is so impractical and dumb that I have gone full circle into loving it. The amount of effort and training it requires to just not slice yourself whipping around several metal slicy strings is incredible. It is the epitome of a weapon that some jackass noble invented because only people with money and free time could learn to use it and its not even THAT good at the whole killing people thing. The only thing going for it is how cool it looks and how many fights you'd just flat out avoid by using it because enough showmanship with a sword made of metal whips should deter most people.
>Macuahuitl
A great example of making use of what you have and how weaponry and warfare is heavily influenced by what you have available (like katanas but thats a whole rant) is this fucking stick with obsidian stuck to the sides. Its a hard to work with material but its very sharp, sturdy, and in supply so those jaguar-skin wearing maniacs used it. It doesn't require any special training and it uses a lot less raw material than a metal sword, while being light weight and easy to handle. Thrusting is sort of off the table though so it doesn't work as well for some things (although you can put blades on the front too obsidian cuts better than it pierces.) Plus you've got all this decorative space to make cool carvings, top tier aesthetic warfare choice.
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No.419095
>>419081
>It has no effect on the mechanics
I honestly don't know any games besides the lightest of rule lites where this is the case?
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No.419101
>>419093
>this fucking stick with obsidian stuck to the sides. Its a hard to work with material but its very sharp, sturdy
Lol. Its not sturdy even if you never use it. Glorified spanking rod. Even minimal protection turns it into a fancy breakable club. Stick with sharpened end is probably more effective weapon than this.
>a lot less raw material than a metal sword
So is fucking axe. And guess what? Axe is a better weapon in every way.
The only usage for it is gladiatorial combat with naked fighters. It will spill blood and combatants will be able to fight for a while before dying.
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No.419104
>>419093
> It doesn't require any special training
But anon, they did have special training, aztecs were a caste society, so the warriors trained all the time, like men at arms.
>Stick with sharpened end is probably more effective weapon than this.
Not for what they wanted it to do, wich was taking valuable slaves.
>So is fucking axe. And guess what? Axe is a better weapon in every way.
I think they did have axes (either them or the inca).
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No.419107
>>419104
>Not for what they wanted it to do, wich was taking valuable slaves.
Fair. But were there any valuable slaves?
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No.419116
>>419093
absolutely exquisite taste
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No.419118
>>419093
>Urumi
>noble's weapon
You can't be serious. That's the last weapon taught in kapalanitetu (no, i'm not gonna bother looking up the spelling) with the only remaining training past it, of becoming a doctor and learning every pressure point in the human body (which only gets taught to the most trusted of students, since they can easily kill their trainer during the practices). Sure, maybe a handful of masters came from wealthy backgrounds, but getting to that degree of skill level isn't based around your money.
The weapon itself is really intended on leveling the playing field when it's one person against many. You get surrounded, and their numbers instantly mean nothing when you bust one of these fuckers out of your waist belt. The rumor is a master can separate limbs like a hot knife through butter. Since it's using whip movements but slicing, you can arc and spin with it for full 360 protection, spear reach, and the multiple blades means there's usually a blade recovered from the last target and able to get the next person in line.
>>419101
Retard, or just pretending to be retarded?
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No.419119
>>419104
They did train a lot with their weapons but it isn't an especially complicated one that needs it like an urumi does just to wield it. Same as most weapons - an amateur can get some use out of it and you don't need to know a lot to make it work but you would benefit greatly from practice. Anyways I remembered another weapon that I REALLY like but it isn't a melee weapon so I guess its not proper but some character use a really big one for melee (even though they shouldn't) so I'm posting it anyways.
>Chakram
Sharp circle, spin it around your finger (if it has an interior edge you need to use gloves or something similar to not cut yourself, or get REALLY good) and then hurl it. Chakrams are probably not as effective as just using a sling or throwing daggers and the like which take much less time to prepare, can be easily stored and transported, etc. but what you really want is coolness right? So fuck it, scale up the projectile until its a big blade I guess. Every fantasy thing on planet earth does this and I don't understand because a chakram is a projectile, you throw it at things, but you would be forgiven for not knowing that based on the number of giant, useless, fucking hoop blades people use. There is no reason to do this besides it being cool to swing hulahoops at people and make them dead, Amalur did it half right by having them be both melee and projectile weapons but thats a half more than most.
Autism complaints aside, its another strange eastern weapon that I just think is neat.
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No.419122
>>419118
>Sure, maybe a handful of masters came from wealthy backgrounds, but getting to that degree of skill level isn't based around your money.
Yes, it is.
Getting trained in combat beyond the absolute simplest fucking blade on a stick is a luxury. You're getting memed if you think otherwise.
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No.419333
>>419101
Shut up for everyone's sake.
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No.419391
>>418800
> Still, for one important moment in high middle ages, regular men beat some of the best military units in the world at the time.
Its actually quite a common story that European swamp people murdered the shit out of cavalry if they encounter them on their home turf.
Swamps were serious business in the Medieval Age and could kill entire armies on their own, if the army didn't have people who know the right path.
Sometimes the swamp people who expected that they would be invaded went undercover as a guide, then guided the army into the middle of the swamp and ran away.
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No.419602
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Grass-cutter? I want the bullet-splitter katana.
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No.419603
>>419602
>Manage to split the bullet going for your face
>Create two shrapnel shards flying to your face instead
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No.419606
I like flails but they tend to be incredibly underpowered in pretty much all games they are used in.
It is a fucking SOLID METAL BALL OF SPIKY DEATH THAT IS SWUNG AROUND AT TERMINAL VELOCITY AND THUS POWERED BY CENTRIFUGAL FORCE.
And usually it deals a bit less damage than swords, are you fucking kidding me?
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No.419663
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No.419664
>>418505
>spear
I used to be indifferent to them until I started being bombarded with spear propaganda from the east, now I'm going spearaboo too.
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No.419666
>>419664
For me it was playing lacrosse. I realized the length of a lacrosse stick, and the techniques closely mirrored spear and staff techniques, and I had quite a few hours already in it so liking short spear was a very simple transition. Before that I was a sword and board fan.
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No.419669
>>418737
That's not an elf. That's a human female with ki-based superhuman strength.
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No.419671
>>419664
>see fellow spearaboo
>'spear propaganda from the east'
>i.e. twirly whirly slomo japcrap nonsense
PEAK
PLEB
You know in your heart that there is only one acceptable way to use a spear, and it is not by yourself.
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No.419675
>>419671
Pike and shot?
>no fucking macedonians
speaking of pleb tier taste.
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No.419676
>>419675
Am I misunderstanding this or are you blind?
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No.419705
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No.419706
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>>419675
>no fucking macedonians
<First Pic
<"The Macedonian phalanx, here shown in its fighting formation of 256 men, the syntagma"
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No.419773
I'm intrigued by some Glaive-Guisarme-Fauchard monstrosities but at the same time a heavy hitty bit is a must, so until I find something that satisfies my needs I'll have to be a poleaxe man.
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No.419784
im a falchionfag... sorry
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No.419822
>>419784
...
Why would you do that to yourself?
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No.420443
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No.420451
>>420443
Sorry cap, we already have one max level blessed shield hero, no dupes.
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No.420458
Something like the NRS-2. It's a survival knife that has a single shot gun in the handle. The bullet it fires is specially made to reduce sound.
Alternatively, a bayonet.
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No.420459
>>420458
>shotgun in the handle
because both objects should fly at the same speed in opposite directions. it's like a trick nerf gun, except the trick is to blow your hand up.
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No.420460
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No.420462
>>420460
>I can't use my words goodly, and it's all your fault.
I assumed you're our local slav, or you're retarded.
>that link
Evidence points to slav, but still on the fence. Thinking about it more, slavbro is legit retarded.
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No.420466
>>420462
How is that hard to understand?
Is your anerimutt "education" really so fucking terrible?
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No.420508
>>420466
There’s a reason we don’t have flags, please return to /int/.
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No.420509
Bayonet, because it is attached to best ranged weapon.
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No.420534
>>420508
>mutt assblasted over being called a mutt
Like pottery. Flags would help this board be better. Every other board that has flags turned out great. Look at /k/ for example. Of course, a mutt like you would be the only one butthurt by flags, lel.
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No.420542
>>420460
>There's a space between shot and gun, retard.
No there isn't. Calling people names AND being wrong just makes you a turbo fag.
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No.420543
>>420534
>flags would help this board be better
All flags do is turn it into pointless national shitflinging if you start to lose an argument. admittedly I’m part of the problem since I imemdiately dismiss any European’s opinion on firearms.
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No.420545
>>420542
>No there isn't.
Are you fucking retarded?
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No.420547
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No.420562
>>420545
>Single shot gun
<A gun with a single shot.
>Single shotgun
<One, solitary, shotgun.
It is still possible that this is just garden variety retardation rather than /int/, in either case though you're clearly some kind of turbofaggot who needs to lurk moar.
Also flags would be a mistake. It has no bearing on the board or subject discussed. I can't think of a single board that has been improved by the addition of flags, it just leads to spam and people throwing off topic national insults when they have nothing of value to add to the thread.
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No.420574
>>420562
I was the guy who meme replied shotgun knowing what the other anon meant. Fairly certain the preferred explanation would have been "single action" gun, but whatever.
Sounds like the other anon attacked based on the assumption it was a spelling argument, not a definition one.
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No.420579
>>420574
>”single action" gun
A single action would be a single pull of the trigger releasing whatever kind of striking mechanism it employed requiring you to manually cock it back. If you really want to avoid any confusion single shot firearm would remove most of it.
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No.420581
>>420460
>>420459
>>420545
>>420562
>>420574
The way it should be written is "single-shot gun."
It would have to be a very low power cartridge not to rip the knife out of your hand and drive it into your chest. This is a really stupid idea.
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No.420585
>>420579
Realized that after I wrote it out. I was following the logic of break action, lever action. I decided the best name for it would be "knife derringer"; because it's gay.
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No.420586
Staff and knife. Simple as.
>walk down street with katana
embarrassing and you’re gonna get v&
>walk down street with polearm
wtf are you doing
>walk down street with club
you look like a felon and you’re gonna get v&
>walk down street with a walking stick and knife
who’s gonna care
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No.420609
>>420586
Get on my level, peasant.
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No.420610
>>420609
Beautiful, it speaks to my soul.
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No.420739
The axe.
Especially the kind that can cleave, pierce, hook and bash without turning into a mess like the billhook/glaive/whatever they call it.
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No.420750
>>420586
Fokos axe is better. You can larp as a mountain man.
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No.420764
>>419089
Hell, even Genesys has tags on different weapons that specify things like how much stat investment they need, if they inflict more grievous crits, how much armor they pierce, etc.
The only games I'm familiar with that don't differentiate between weapons are 2nd edition warhammer fantasy roleplay's hand- and great-weapons that represent anything from sword to mace to axe and some OSR-type stuff where the only difference is price. That being said, WFRP later introduced rules to differentiate those weapons and OSR stuff is usually detail oriented enough in problem solving that whether or not you have a sword or axe may actually come up.
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No.420772
>>420609
What's to keep someone from grabbing it when you swing it at them?
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No.420774
>>420772
Have you ever tried to catch something someone is swinging at you?
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No.420778
>>420739
>not using chaos tainted weaponry
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No.420814
>>420772
The sharp edge, probably.
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No.420816
File: edd12aa22c1fdc3⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,248.85 KB,1685x970,337:194,Anima__Scythes_set_1_by_We….jpg)
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>>420778
wE hAVe SUcH sIGhtS tO sHoW YoU
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No.420817
File: e7665f39cf467e0⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,120.82 KB,1310x794,655:397,anima Pole_axes___not_real….jpg)
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No.420819
File: e0c9f978fa886d5⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,151.36 KB,1024x1325,1024:1325,100_swords__1_20_by_lucien….jpg)
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No.420840
>>420816
>>420819
>>420817
>All this pleb tier weapon design
I bet you like the Bat'leth too, don't you. Pic related is the pinnacle of personal melee weapon design.
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No.420843
>>420840
That sword's handle isn't designed to allow you to bend the wrist for a forward thrust when you grip and hold it firmly, your wrist gets locked in place and it's hard to bend it. It's also very short since you'll be wielding it with one hand while you're right beside someone to your left and someone to your right and on guy behind you with the spear. Since it's supposed to be used in formation with those huge ass shields that design choice is deliberate, but actually makes it a poor choice when you have more freedom of movement.
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No.420845
>>420843
>but actually makes it a poor choice when you have more freedom of movement.
While a polearm or spear is superior in most cases, do not underestimate a short sword in combination with a shield.
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No.420895
>>420840
That's a cringe collage, retard.
>muh ebin gladius
The Romeaboo pigsticker has no real purpose outside the Gallic-inspired heavy infantry block tactic of the late republic/early empire, and it's decidedly inferior as a personal melee weapon go.
Out of formation, the spatha was their preferred weapon.
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No.420911
>>420840
>>420895
>sees all these Romans measuring their dicks
>grabs the falx and gets ready to chop off some arms
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No.420929
>>420911
>MUH THRACIANS!
Did 168 BC not happen then?
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No.420934
>>420845
I wasn't talking about all short swords I was talking about that specific sword, it's not good in an open environment because it's designed to lock your wrist. To be unable to stab forward which is the easiest and most basic move is just not good outside a tight formation.
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No.420950
>>420934
>To be unable to stab forward
Wasn't stabbing forward the main technique it was used for?
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No.420961
>>420929
>Pydna
What does it prove except that maniple formation is more flexible than a Macedonian phalanx? The outcome doesn't change that the existence of the falx has forced the Romans to adopt another change to their equipment and that it was an extremely effective weapon in attack.
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No.421010
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No.421026
>>420961
>forced the Romans to adopt another change to their equipment
They did that all the damn time though. While the Romans were beautifully autistic their autism wasn't focused on one weapon and one formation (the sarissa and the phalanx respectively) the way the Greeks and Indo-European tribes were. What you're saying there is basically "I like this weapon because the Romans designed something better that beat it".
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No.421027
>>420950
The stabbing motion you can use is an upwards motion, so instead of a forward thrust it was diagonal. Since their formations centered around crushing the front line between the weight of their forces from behind pushing against their own forces as a counter force the guys at the very front were practically pinned to those huge shields. Que stabbing those guys within immediate reach just from the side while you're keeping stance to not break formation nor get in the way of the spearmen stabbing guys over your shoulder.
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No.421043
>>421027
Alright. Thanks for clearing that up.
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No.421497
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No.421504
>>421497
>shorter than a pike
>1000 times harder to wield
Shit taste
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No.422217
>>420586
People just don't see the hidden knife...
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No.422228
>One whole thread
>Not a single mention of the apex of personal melee weapon design
No armour can save you from the lunge mine.
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No.422232
>>420816
>>420817
>>420819
I don't know if I've ever seen more over designed crap weapons, but nothing comes to mind at the moment.
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No.422261
>>422232
The first two posts are from a Korean artist who gets payed to make over-designed weapons for a Korean mmo. On his twitter he says he specifically makes weapons "too impossible to use".
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No.422632
A weapon fit for a god, nothing but pommels. You can END HIM RIGHTLY twice!
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No.422642
>>422632
"End him rightly" is such a shit meme
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No.422708
>>422642
it was moderately funny before hema eceleb faggots and their lackeys have started to use it constantly.
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No.422711
>>422708
It wasn't a meme until the "was too fat but now is too dying of aids reviewing weapons" e-celeb started forcing it.
It was never a good meme.
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No.422719
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No.422734
>>422719
Pretty sure he's talking about Skallagrim
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No.422739
>>422711
I wouldn't really say he forced but his fandom did.
>dying of aids
Wait, what? Really?
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No.422740
>>422739
Hopefully not, but it fits the symptoms he's showing.
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No.422741
>>422740
>symptoms
Like what? I don't watch most of his videos so maybe I didn't notice.
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No.422762
>>422741
Quick deterioration of his weight that can't be explained via exercise; random coughing while streaming implies a weakened immune system; random bruises showing up in places that make little sense for bruising.
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No.422766
>>422232
Maybe they aren't more over-designed, but they definitely are more impractical.
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No.422768
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No.422785
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No.422792
>>422708
It literally started with an e-celeb faggot
I mean, he's not the worst, but, he's never been that good
Plus, to be honest, I have a tad of issue with the whole declaring it to be nonsense thing. In high stress situations where vision is incredibly limited, distracting movement or sensation could be highly effective at lowering your adversary's guard.
Chucking a pommel isn't going to do damage, but, it might force a guard up, leaving you the chance to go underneath.
Instead, faggots think it's a joke.
Just cancer.
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No.422800
>>422792
He thought it was a joke for a pretty good reason. In the manual he found it in, it was presented as a joke making light of dueling rules and how to score points.
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No.422806
>>422800
>>422792
Here's the whole story, as far as I know:
He found this technique in a dueling manual that he just couldn't make any sense off.
>Completely unscrew the pommel of your sword and throw it at the opponent. Then charge in and finish him. Do all this while also holding your shield and spear being only a few feet away from your opponent. Both you and your opponent are also wearing full heavy armor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jETLCm7k3sU
This then became a joke in his comment section and slowly spread to other sword e-celebs. Some games even included this reference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d2fwin7Mlc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5TZizbPFJ0
ThegnThrand made a good reply to it, with one of their trademark "only dangerous testing is good testing" videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzLfQ-xVY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xah719fm8Ek
Skallagrim later made a followup in which he mentions that video and states that it makes more sense than he first thought.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCRE0Wk4F2o
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No.422812
>>422768
Fuck you with a fucking anchor. Don't you even dare.
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No.422838
>>418494
Lance and Great Sword. Go big or go home!
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No.422845
>>422768
That filth is already more than decade old.
Nice reminder that I spend third of my life on fucking imageboards.
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No.422849
>>418494
It's not practical, it has almost no range, it's flimsy, it's awkward to carry and stow, it doesn't have many non-battle uses either. But it does look pretty cool.
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No.422860
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No.422866
>>422768
>>422860
But who would draw such atrocities?
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No.422870
>>422866
An obese transracial lesbian who used to be a big lolcow back in the day.
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No.422878
>>422870
I can believe obese, but "transracial lesbian"? Who is this?
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No.422885
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No.422893
>>422768
>stainless steel and gold
G A L V A N I C A C T I O N
>>422766
The X-Blade while top heavy is not overly offensive to look at, it's surprisingly to the point considering how KH Ultima Weapon looks.
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No.422910
>ctrl+f "stapler glued to board"
> 0 results
Why bother with you plebs?
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No.422918
>>422893
Stop thinking too much, it's the ultimate material of STANLESS steel. No "i".
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No.423693
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>>418816
>Although sword bayonet and rifle butt is also a good choice.
Indeed. It's so god tier that a modified version of this is still in use today.
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No.423722
>>422910
>stapler glued to board
So wait, you smash someone with it, and he gets stapled?
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No.423723
>>423722
Poor man's gunblade
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No.423725
>>423723
It's simple, it has the vibe of a shank, it might even be effective.
So far I like it, someone per chance have one?
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No.423766
>>423725
Could you take a one handed mallet, and fix a shotgun shell to the striking surface in a way that would force the shell down onto a firing pin when it's struck against an object?
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No.423773
>>423766
I remember something about a makeshift gun someone made by using a metal tube, putting in a bullet and smashing the backside with a hammer.
If you put a small pebble behind the backside of the bullet and then paste the whole with cheap glue (so that the bullet pushes through it when force is applied) the bullet will go off...in theory at least.
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No.423876
Alright, someone sell me on the billhook. What makes it so great? I can see a decent thrust and I'm certain the hook can pull mounted combatants easily, or just yank people by their armor.
What else is there? Why are so many people here crazy about it? I'm genuinely curious since there are quite a few polearms capable of this, but maybe this one is special somehow?
As for my own pick, I'd go for a ranseur, but a folding spetum seems extremely tempting for style and an incredibly destructive thrust alone.
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No.423879
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No.423888
>>423876
>Alright, someone sell me on the billhook
You get a poking bit (that pretty much functions more or less like an arming spear), a hooking bit (that is very useful in formation use as it lets you open an opponent up for a strike from the man standing next to you), and a cutting bit (that will fuck up anyone not wearing top tier armour). You basically get three weapons on one stick. That flexibility is a huge selling point, and particularly English heavy infantry used it very well creating a bit of a meme about it - especially as it was fairly unusual in a time when polearms were dominated by various types of spear/pike.
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No.423889
>>419093
I'd like to point out a kanobo is just an old fashioned bat with nails stuck in it.
At no point in time has a heavy stick with nubs not been a great weapon. Always just fucking works too, you can add all the padding you want; A bigger stick's still gonna break you.
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No.423891
In all settings that allow it I have a long-standing love affair with halberds, if I have to go something eastern then I go naginata, but it's just not the same. If I can't get away with polearms, then the good old-fashioned fuckoff sword fills the void until I can wrap both of my hands around the meaty shaft of my polearm once more.
>>420816
>>420817
>>420819
Whatever we did to piss you off, we're sorry already. I'm pretty sure this violates some kind of international law.
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No.423897
>>423888
It's also a very good weapon to equip your levies with, as because it's basically a military version of a common farming tool they'd likely be very familar with it.
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No.423920
>>420586
Nobody's going to bother asking questions to the guy dragging a billhook through town. That guy's clearly not going to give a fuck.
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No.423922
>>423920
>>423876
Seems to me like it's the new /tg/ kool kidz weapon. Just like halbard was before.
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No.423930
>>423922
It could be worse, someone could have asked about the Lucerne Hammer.
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No.423932
>>423930
If you think about it a walking cane with a metal handle is pretty much a hammer. You could walk around with that as long as the head is decorative.
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No.423942
>>423932
Which is why it has been a meme weapon more then once.
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No.423983
>>423942
>There is no OC, there is only copypasta
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No.423991
>>423876
More or less what >>423888 said. The primary advantages are that you can use it for just about anything. Whether that be fighting standard infantry, unseating cavalry, or hassling armored types.
It's a classic "jack of all trades" weapon. And, it doesn't really suffer too much in the lack of a specialization.
Gives you a massive heap of options in any given fight, with really the only weakness being that it's easy to catch on something. But, then, that's also an advantage if you have mates.
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No.425843
I like the two-handed jian, the Patton sabre, the Pattern 1796 light cavalry sabre, the Woodsman's Pal, and the kunai.
Knifewise, I like the Jim Hammond Flesheater, the Tom Brown Jr. Tracker, Joe Kious' Stormbringer subhilt, the Iron Mistress Bowie, the Mike Echanis Warrior knife, the smachet and the Massad Ayoob Spyderco folder.
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No.426123
Plenty. Awlpike/Ahlspiess, Messer, Maces.
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No.426144
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>>426123
There was a Messer in the Steven Seagal movie, Out Of Reach.
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No.426210
>>419671
I do full contact sword fighting with proper armor and normal humans (no edgelords, everyone is okay with taking a hit).
Its extreme fun, don't let anyone stop you. Just the feeling of finding your own sword (a real one, we use rockwell21 (yes, kinda soft, but since we all have around that strenght its alright) without sharp edges and we don't stab towards the eyeholes, everything else goes.
I train with many people, but even the guys that do various material arts and have years more of expierence lose to a spear.
Spear [untrained] > [2h Sword, trained, 1h Sword Trained, 1h+shield, 1h+kiteshield]
We do the 7 point system, you want 7 points to win, a 3rd person judges, hit on the head is worth 4 points, body 3, legs 2, arms 1 - if the enemy hits you back withhin the same sec, you even out. (hit chest vs counter-hit arm = 3-1 = 2 points)
The spear is easy to use, the range is GODLY and thats all you need. Honestly, you feel 3-5 cm (A inch) of lenght difference in sword fighting and you will always feel the fucking spear before you reach that motherfucker.
Personally, I'd avoid fighting a fucker with a spear, but when I have to I usually use a very silly combination - a kite shield and a parrying dagger (with many catching points) to establish a point of contact (you feel a lot of movements during the contact - they go hard, you go soft, they go soft, you go hard) - and once you feel the spear you can rush in and keep the contact.
Sadly rushing in is also when the injury risk is huge, cause 2 moving objects are more ouchy then 1 and my kneecap is usually one of them.
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