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Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre Will Soon Be HyperbolaBSD - Based on OpenBSD Anonymous 12/23/19 (Mon) 23:09:09 No.522

https://www.hyperbola.info/news/announcing-hyperbolabsd-roadmap/

archive.li/7D2eJ

>Due to the Linux kernel rapidly proceeding down an unstable path, we are planning on implementing a completely new OS derived from several BSD implementations.

>This will not be a "distro", but a hard fork of the OpenBSD kernel and userspace including new code written under GPLv3 and LGPLv3 to replace GPL-incompatible parts and non-free ones.

Here's their reasons:

>Linux kernel forcing adaption of DRM, including HDCP.

>Linux kernel proposed usage of Rust (which contains freedom flaws and a centralized code repository that is more prone to cyber attack and generally requires internet access to use.)

>Linux kernel being written without security and in mind. (KSPP is basically a dead project and Grsec is no longer free software)

>Many GNU userspace and core utils are all forcing adaption of features without build time options to disable them. E.g. (PulseAudio / SystemD / Rust / Java as forced dependencies)

Will you make the switch? This isn't the first Libre BSD - there's LibertyBSD, but there's very little info about it.

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Anonymous 12/24/19 (Tue) 00:38:58 No.523

Is there a reason they are forking OpenBSD besides GNUtardation?

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Anonymous 12/24/19 (Tue) 00:53:59 No.525

>>523

I like the idea of someone forking OpenBSD and OpenBSD getting more attention in general, but why does it have to be under the fucking gpl?

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Anonymous 12/24/19 (Tue) 01:00:00 No.526

>>525

Same, I definitely don't mind OpenBSD getting attention (provided it isn't the "let's port systemd, it's 2020" type of attention), but forking seems like a massive waste of resources for a project that could really use those. If there is a major technical disagreement between the two so that the work of one wouldn't really be usable by the other, okay; but if this is 100% license wankery they can fuck off for all I care.

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Anonymous 12/24/19 (Tue) 05:56:38 No.534

>>526

it doesn't *look* like license wankery, based on

> new code written under GPLv3 and LGPLv3 to replace GPL-incompatible parts and non-free ones

so they're not just relicensing BSD to GPL. They're focused on GPL-incompatible code, which BSD ain't.

…

There's still likely going to be a lot of license wankery, though, which is a shame. Taking someone's code, improving on it, and then poisoning the improvements so that they can't copy them back, is not good behavior.

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Anonymous 12/24/19 (Tue) 11:23:54 No.557

>>522

>Will you make the switch?

Lmao no: windows is actually useful and still has issues after billions of investments and decades of work, some randoms forking a whole OS with basically zero resources aren't going to deliver anything stable and usable within the life of the project.

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Anonymous 12/25/19 (Wed) 12:07:25 No.581

>>557

OpenBSD is already stable and usable.

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Anonymous 12/25/19 (Wed) 17:07:19 No.593

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Anonymous 12/27/19 (Fri) 22:07:14 No.677

Lots of good ideas there, except the GPL shit.

Just play nice with upstream instead of splitting efforts…

>>526

That really depends entirely on if the reddit masses will get a stranglehold on the community. Any surge in popularity could make it hip in the common eye and flood it with normalfags, to the project's demise.

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Anonymous 12/27/19 (Fri) 22:48:55 No.679

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Kek I just looked at their webpage for a minute there, because although I was aware of the distro, I had never even tried it.

>Derived from Arch plus stability and security from Debian

So it's not like they care about the quality of the software, this is just fanatics appearing to be right for a moment with a bunch of software politics cancer to it. Don't expect anything from a distro that walks the extra mile and doesn't just use one shit distro as its upstream, but TWO(2!) of them.

The best part is that with their GPL autism any proprietary component they replace with a free one will never make it to OpenBSD, which calls proprietary software a security flaw and would be glad to take it in.

Yay, no freedom! What's next? Are Christian priests going to forsake the word of Jesus and start working for the devil in the name of god? Oh wait, that already happened a long time ago with protestants.

>operating system that is stable, secure, simple, lightweight that tries to Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS) under a Long Term Support (LTS) way.

>stable

Debian and Arch are 2 of the most broken distros out. Unless this is a typo and he meant stale, I suppose Debian fills that role well.

Debian just this year disabled syscall emulation in an unnanounced minor kernel version update for instance. All their enterprise customers certainly had a field day with this. Arch is Arch.

>secure

One distro they base themselves off had broken OpenSSL for 2 years because first they don't have anybody competent left there since the trannies have taken over, but second because they tried to patch a non-bug they didn't understand, and did not even attempt to send the patch upstream so they could be laughed off by the also incompetent people at OpenSSL and spared a severe security flaw.

The other didn't have reproducible builds until recently and ships with easy access to hidden bitcoin miners by default. Given how insane their solution to package management is, one can only wonder what's hiding in there.

>simple, lightweight, tries to Keep It Simple Stupid (KISS)

There are very few distros more complicated and heavy than Arch. Primarily anything a tech company is the creator of, like RedHat or whatever distro Microsoft is producing now. Its fame is entirely based off of Reddit memes and now you already know where anyone who says otherwise about this distro comes from.

Arch ships debug symbols with everything, compiles everything they can possibly compile into the kernel, has practically no package separation (so /r/unixporn can wank over installed package numbers), can't switch root shell away from bash, package maintainers need to do pretty much every aspect of package management by hand, and much much more.

Debian. Oh Debian. I suppose it doesn't matter how shit it is in this aspect, because whatever it does it's still an improvement on Arch.

Hyperbola is buying a Prius because it wants to start taking part in semiprofessional racing events and eventually join some big league or something. They're fighting so hard against their supposed goal they might aswell start purposefully trying to fuck it up, maybe then they'd get it right

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Anonymous 12/28/19 (Sat) 12:32:40 No.700

>le gpl is bad meme

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Anonymous 12/28/19 (Sat) 14:22:41 No.709

Both Debian and Gentoo attempted this years ago, but the projects were discontinued not shortly after.

A GNU system with a forked BSD kernel that is licensed under copyleft would be a very good thing to have and I hope this project succeeds, but unfortunately I fear it won't.

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Anonymous 12/28/19 (Sat) 22:55:05 No.721

>>679

You're confused, Parabola is all about user freedom.

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Anonymous 01/10/20 (Fri) 19:22:22 No.962

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>>523

Because computers suck and OpenBSD makes them marginally less horrible.

https://telegra.ph/Why-OpenBSD-is-marginally-less-horrible-12-05

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Anonymous 01/10/20 (Fri) 19:29:40 No.963

In my humble opinion forking OpenBSD is extremely niggerlicious. You could just use OpenBSD. There is no point to importing the problems of GNU/Linux (ie: endless distro forking).

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Anonymous 01/10/20 (Fri) 21:14:23 No.964

>>522

>Linux kernel proposed usage of Rust

Good god, I did not know about this. Sad.

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 00:59:41 No.965

>>557

Niggers, women and children use Windows. Shouldn't your needs be different?

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 05:23:02 No.967

>>964

(((greg kroah-hartman))) approved the usage of (((rust))) in the linux kernel in the form of a module manager, only with the condition that it is not enabled by default, even with a make allyesconfig (or whatever what it was).

It's not implemented, though, and it likely won't be for some more kernel releases.

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 05:25:12 No.968

>>965

Niggers, women and children also breathe air, you stupid faggot.

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 05:25:29 No.969

>>700

It is. Gpl is a cancer. It's better to use BSD/copyfree.

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 05:26:26 No.970

>>679

What do you think about Void?

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Anonymous 01/11/20 (Sat) 17:45:19 No.973

>>968

Comparing windows with the necessities of life. You might be too far gone mate.

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Anonymous 01/14/20 (Tue) 16:11:14 No.1001

>>969

>copyfree

LMAO stop shilling the newest corporate buzzword.

"Copyfree", MIT and BSD-style licenses are cuckoldry, period.

The only reason you hate copyleft is because you want to take existing free code and close it. You know this, but you're going to deny it.

This means that you're an entitled leech, which copyleft was precisely created to counter.

Keep seething.

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