/sw/ - Star Wars

>>9624

I think it's more Anakin's dying reflection of what he should have done than anything else.

>>9622

>First of all, the Clone Wars aren't over yet. Unless Tarkin's team found the needed information, neither he nor his minions would have the slightest idea that anyone of any importance is on Mustaphar. The War continues until peace talks or annihilation. If the Jedi or 2000 want help from them, they might actually retain quite a bit of potency still.

Fair enough. I haven't actually written anything regarding Mustafar or the Separatists yet so that doesn't require much change.

>Speaking of Jedi, there's another problem: How the hell did the Clone Army get into the Jedi Temple on lockdown? The place is built like a fortress, and was tough enough to crack even with Darth Vader in command. How different was the battle without him? Did the Acclamator pull back in part of because of greater resistance? Shouldn't many more Jedi be alive thanks to Vader not being there? I realize that you're following the plan of BFII, but I don't think they'd get farther than completing the holocron objective, if there.

The Acclamator leaving wasn't supposed to be pulling back, it was just meant to represent whatever clones survived the assault getting sent to the Senate building. The rest of what you say is valid, though; even with most of the veteran Jedi spread all over the galaxy the Temple should be difficult to take. Off the top of my head, the best way to handle this would be to have the troopships start off the assault by pounding the Temple with turbolasers instead of doing purely a ground assault. Then, once the towers and upper levels have been reduced to rubble, the 501st could move in mechanized instead of pure infantry–AT-TE's picking over the rubble, supported by an infantry screen.

>On a lesser, but still fairly important note, Yoda hasn't suffered nearly enough defeat in one day to be where he was in the canon. He needed Sheev to happen to him before any of that. As it is, he should be trying to retrieve the holocrons, at the least. Skywalker may be the one to look another way, but Yoda hasn't reached that point yet.

That makes a lot of sense. Yoda is still part of the Old Guard after all, and would be a little more set in his ways. Can you suggest an event that could act as a similar catalyst to his defeat by Sheev? Or do you think it's better to just have Anakin be the only one advocating any kind of reform, while the council members all resist?

>>9629

Spoiler that shit nigger.

And if you're going to post porn at least post good porn. That picture could have been attractive if not for those deflated basketball tits.

>>9627

Good answers on the first two (if featuring about as much noise as the Battle of Coruscant days earlier). On the last, I'm leaning toward the second of those two choices. I would further posit that Obi-Wan might be a reluctant partner to Anakin, out of friendship more than belief. I wouldn't be surprised if Ahsoka shows up at some point; it might be amusing to see her reaction to the wife.

>>9633

Ah, I'd forgotten about Ahsoka. I'm only up to Season 2 in TCW, aside from a vague awareness that she leaves the Order after being falsely accused of a bombing I don't really know what happens to her. Not sure if I'll put her in or not, but if I do is there more that I should know beyond that?

>>9636

The only thing you need to know about Ahsoka is that she's the cutest, cuddliest waifu in Star Wars. The only reason there isn't a romantic subplot between her and Anakin is that the fucking feminazi state media would throw a bitchfit if anyone depicted guys going after the teen girls they want as the healthy activity it is because jealous used-up crones own the media.

You should try writing an alternate history where space Chris Hansen and his army of feminist cucks tries to chastise Anakin for going after Ahsoka because they're envious of her teenage hotness, and Anakin kills all the feminists for great justice, and then Chris Hansen comes in and he tries to say "Why don't you have a seat right over there?" but only gets as far as "Why don't - " before he gets choked the fuck out by Anakin "Gonna Hafta Choke a Bitch" Skywalker, who then lives happily ever after fucking Padme and Ahsoka while blazed out of his fucking mind on space drugs. It'd be like The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire, if it was about choking the shit out of liberal media fuckwads.

I actually wondered what it would be like if Anakin and Ahsoka had a baby together instead of Anakin and Padme, because that baby would probably be the most powerful Force user who ever lived. Also Padme is kind of a thot and every time I see that scene where Anakin and Padme return to Naboo in Episode II I can't help but imagine the picture of moot carrying the luggage for that one Gawker bitch. All the problems in Anakin's life stem from him becoming Darth Luggage instead of going after the teen qt3.14 who has no luggage because she's a pure virgin and not a Jewish princess stereotype who's somehow worse than Princess Vespa because Vespa didn't take any dick before she met Lone Starr. You should write Spaceballs fanfiction too.

>>9641

Shit son, why don't you try a bit of writing yourself?

>>9633

>>9636

I'll get on the rewrites for your proposed changes tomorrow. Can't guarantee It'll be finished the same day cause the workweek's starting up again.

>>9641

>had hope that a helpful autist was entering the thread

>touch spoilers

>be on the computer without most of my reaction images

That's not helpful, anon.

>>9636

I'm afraid I can't really say much about her, as I haven't watched much of the series myself. Someone want to help out here?

>>9644

More than fair, dubsman.

>>9644

Why, is that something you'd actually want to read?

I actually had some serious ideas but they just got lost in the mess. Maybe I'll remember them later.

>>9646

Just describe what the reaction image contains. It'll be a good writing exercise.

>>9648

Either Thiscreaturestaresatyou.jpg or an irritated/incredulous-looking catgirl. Or maybe [Jazz music stops].

>>9647

We'll just have to see what you can do while sober.

>>9629

>Everyone, Empire and Rebels, would've died. And the audience would be left thinking, "what the fuck kind of ending is that?"

Orrrr we could have both sides team up uncomfortably, and try to screw each other over in the following war for survival.

>>9651

>Thiscreaturestaresatyou.jpg or an irritated/incredulous-looking catgirl. Or maybe [Jazz music stops].

>not wanting to drunkpost a fucking rad as hell alternate universe into being

You'll cowards don't even bite glit.

>>9651

>>9652

OK, you know what, how about writing a story about space drugs? Let's say that the Galactic Civil War turns out in such a way that both the Empire and the Alliance collapse, and crime gangs like Black Sun, the Zann Consortium and the Hutt cartels take over everything. The whole galaxy would be a narcostate, like it was space Mexico or something. Crime is through the roof, drug use is incredibly common and the government effectively doesn't exist. There are a lot of possibilities on that route.

Maybe I'll come up with some legitimate information on what you can do with Ahsoka at some point. You can always look her up on Wookieepedia, but I'd recommend just watching the rest of TCW before forming an opinion. Whatever I have to say about her characterization wouldn't mean much if you haven't watched enough of her. You probably shouldn't bother with Rebels though because it's Disney garbage.

>>9654

Sounds like a recipe for Chiss, Ssi-Ruuvi, and Nagai intervention.

>>9656

And the Yuuzhan Vong, of course. The New Republic had a hard enough time subduing them. It's terrifying to think of what would happen if all you had to fight them with was a bunch of ragtag gangbangers. Then again, if the gangs had a chance to establish themselves like that, they might be able to pose a serious threat. Some of those Zann Consortium ships are on par with what the Empire and the Alliance had. Or it could just result in the Chiss taking over everything and Thrawn leading the galaxy against the Yuuzhan Vong and whooping their asses. Of course, Palpy could come back in a clone body, but he'd have no Empire left to rule and would probably be defeated by Luke in short order, assuming the crooks didn't find his hidden sanctuaries and blast them from orbit while he was recovering. There's actually an arc of The Clone Wars that details the resurrected Darth Maul's attempt to unify the Hutt cartels with the Mandalorian Death Watch to create his own criminal empire. This situation would be very similar to that.

>>9657

Nah. Sheev Palpatine leads the Deep Core Imperial Mob, one of the largest and most dangerous remnants of the Empire. They run some of the most infamous (and successful) protection rackets in the Galaxy. Y'see, they don't just ask for tugloads of credits and refueling cheap. They want Force-sensitives, and you better not cheat 'em, cause it's a glassing for you if you do. It's good protection, but you better get your details straight when you deal with 'em.

>>9636

Anything tonight or this week?

>>10002

>Quads of the Sith does something

Goooooooood.

>>10025

You also forgot the tenses early on, and kinda botched Sheev's last thought.

On a more important note, you forgot to address the ongoing Clone Wars with Padme and Tarkin.

>>10026

I did, didn't I. Dammit. Brain's too frazzled to be writing at the moment. I'll try and do a more coherent editing run Friday night. In the meantime, if anyone takes some perverse pleasure in volunteer editing of fanfiction, raw file's right here:

https://volafile.org/r/gafjfhy8

>>10027

Hey, anon? Maybe Mustafar might see a proper battle much earlier.

>>8941

That sounds like it'd be really cool.

>>8969

I've gushed about it like three times here now but the KotOR 3 playthrough from however many years before the exodus was so great

>>10203

>the KotOR 3 playthrough from however many years before the exodus

Damn, how long has it fucking been?

>>10220

Five years or a bit under five years, I think.

>>9651

>Orrrr we could have both sides team up uncomfortably, and try to screw each other over in the following war for survival.

Won't that just be a larger scale Truce at Bakura with Vong instead of Ssi-ruvi and less qt heterochromia politicians?

>>10025

>>10027

>Friday

Got anything on Saturday, anon?

>>8521

oh, so sorry I wasn't born in 62' grandpa 😒

>>10528

>Because he can now make the argument that the Empire was right to be what it is, and that only the Sith know what they're doing with the Galaxy.

this is a major reason why I object to the Yuuzhan Vong, they subvert the OT.

>>18889

>no interest

It's because I missed quads by one isn't it?

>>8316

Not really, Anakin would've still fallen because that was his destiny.

Qui-Gon's fault was that he was so convinced it was for the good of the galaxy that he was blinded by this boy's potential without worrying about the consequences of ripping a young slave boy from his mother to live alone with Jedis.

>>18934

We want your next chapter, faggamuffin. But this is an improvement.

>>8478

>>10584

>"muh spoilers"

The fact you get so assblasted about it is what makes it so fun to spoil movies for you. Do you faggots need to see a psychiatrist when someone tells you the ending or something? How fragile do you have to be?

I swear, normal people never act like that- especially before the internet came out.

>>9641

I think a story where Anakin and Ahsoka develop a legitimate romantic relationship could potentially rise above the level of fanfic, irrespective of the level of feminist triggering it generates. I'm sure fanfic writers have written many such stories, and equally sure that almost all of them are terrible. It'd have to be firmly couched in the politics and characters of the Star Wars universe to work. The most plausible option that would result in this would be Anakin deciding to leave the Jedi at the end of TCW along with Ahsoka out of both resentment for how they treated her and a growing disillusionment with the Republic. The Republic is obviously corrupt and beholden to the will of corporate powers, and the Jedi are corrupt by extension for serving it and condoning its various crimes such as the use of the clone army. There could also be another point of divergence that happens earlier or later in the timeline. Anakin's loss of faith in the Republic may drive a wedge between him and Padme, adding to his reasons for leaving. He may come to see Padme as an enabler of corruption, like how abolitionists viewed slave masters who were kind to their slaves, or even as leeches who are just using him and other warriors like him as cannon fodder to prop up a system that only benefits the rich and well-connected. Even if it doesn't become that extreme, he'd see her efforts to save the Republic as useless and misguided, which wouldn't sit well with her because she's devoted her whole life to politics.

The real question is what Sheev would do if his prize turkey just up and left. He may let Anakin wander around for a while in hopes that he'd be useful at some point, but he'd have some measures in place to at least attempt to deal with Anakin going rogue. Anakin would also need a new career that he and Ahsoka can do together, which opens up all sorts of interesting possibilities.

>>18939

Destiny and prophecy are just memes. There's no good reason they have to come true. Besides, I don't think there's a Jedi prophecy of "Anakin Skywalker, the slave boy from the land of sand and raiders, falling to the dark side as Darth Vader."

>>19056

One thing that would need to be talked about in a story like this is whether it's really right for Anakin to be in a relationship, not only with Ahsoka but with anyone, given that he slaughtered a bunch of kids. Padme married him knowing this, which is more than a little weird. This is one of the problems I have with the writing of the prequels. It ruins a lot of the impact of what happens in ROTS because he's already gone on a youngling murder spree before. As a story of the fall of a hero, it makes sense to have Anakin be heroic enough not to indiscriminately kill all the Sand People to begin with. Padme probably should have predicted that Anakin would fly off the handle like that if Shmi turned out to have been killed by the Sand People and done something ahead of time, because she's supposed to be a prodigy who would think of a possibility like that. Why didn't she pursue or accompany him to the Sand People camp? Ahsoka has Force sensitivity enabling her to read his emotions, so it's hard not to see her performing better in that situation. She would definitely have followed him, or insisted on going with him, and possibly have been able to talk him down. Supposing Ahsoka became Anakin's apprentice earlier, things might have turned out very differently. Still, it doesn't make sense for Padme not to do something about that, because she's generally pretty proactive. A good point of divergence in any Star Wars alternate history stories might be before or during AOTC because that would allow some of the prequels' biggest writing flaws to be fixed. In the case where the divergence point occurs later, I think it also would have made sense for Ahsoka to ask Anakin to leave the Jedi with her at the end of TCW.

>>19061

This would be an idea worth exploring in any alternate universe story.

What if Anakin Skywalker became Emperor, after killing Obi-Wan and Sheev in this alternate ending?

>>19083

He'd have brought balance to the force?

>>19083

Obi-Wan was only defeated because he willingly sacrificed himself.

the Emperor was defeated because he was busy attacking Luke with force lightning and got blind-sided.

I have a hard time believing that Anakin would've defeated both of them as easily as that ending shows, especially given his relative inexperience at the time.

>>19114

Obi-Wan could not defeat Vader. His last-minute ascension wasn't indicative of martial prowess or power. At the end of the fight on Mustafar Obi-Wan defeats Anakin because Anakins judgement had been clouded by betrayal, loss and a host of other emotions. He was a legendary warrior even then; It is entirely possible that Anakin could have defeated Obi-Wan there, being that he was empowered by the dark side. It didn't happen that way, mind you, but to act as if it couldn't have been any different is silly. The Emperor is a different story, being that he was a wise and powerful monster of a man who demonstrated his capabilities on several occasions. A direct confrontation with him might be difficult or impossible to win. Treachery is how he died, that's how he died in that video and that's likely how he'd be killed any other way too. His master also died that way and so did his apprentice. Seems like that's just how it goes for Sith lords.

>>19356

you make good points on Obi-Wan, and he could not have plausibly defeated Vader in IV. however, he was strong enough to hold his own for awhile.

as for the Emperor, he could be killed by treachery, but not that easily. I think he would sense an attack coming and avoid/block it. not saying he's invincible, but the way that video just brushes him aside is not believable.