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Gee its nice to know that Disney and Lucasfilm picked the best and most qualified people to write and manage the Star Wars website. Remember goys, you're not customers. You are overprivileged sheep that need to learn your place.
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No.19658
>>19637
>That 40-year-old Boomer who feels very strongly about the need to put the next generation of geeks in their place.
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No.19660
I really want to shitpost but I promised I'd be genuine on here incase (((somebody))) is reading. If a company wants to excel, all they need to do is to ensure they stay the fuck away from politics and talking to fans. Every single time I've seen anything listen to it's fanbase it always ends badly, right or left. Just make the story you want to make without pandering either way, see how it goes, then move on to the next.
It's like they are allergic to money.
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No.19662
>>19653
It's mainly the "people" of California:
<large jewish population
<homosexuals
<Hippie/drug junkie degeneracy
<Boomers
<Large homeless population
<Wealth-fare state
<Large "legal" and illegal hispanic pop.
<Large nigger population
There is nothing good in California.
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No.19669
>>19662
Except for those neat cable car streets and the Chinese Theater. If the 8 or 9 magnitude "Big One" ever comes to California, I hope the theater survives so we can move it somewhere else.
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No.19704
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No.19725
>>19649
>shit is good to eat, as long as it's not political
Your generation has to live in constant neurosis due to the rise of neomarxism, so now you're starting to wander in cuckooland by idealizing anything that's not current year culture. I know you're turning into something pathetic, because you lie to yourself when you make up shit about the prequels being hated only due to some youtuber's opinion. When you start with the lies to keep up the delusion, you're gone.
But a dumb guy liking the prequels is nothing important. The problem is that you give ammo you disney, which seeks to frame all SW fans as clinical cases like you.
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No.19726
>>19725
>MIDICHLORIANS REEEEEE
You have to come to terms with the fact that it was you who caused Disney to occur. You were an implacable, spoiled gen-Xer who was angry the prequels didn’t make him eight years old again. You are the one who was used by the Hollywood system to attack Lucas. You are the same guy as Dobson, fantasizing about chopping Lucas’ head off. What you desperately want is to be exonerated for your miserable behavior. You’ll get no such thing here.
>when you make up shit about the prequels being hated only due to some youtuber's opinion
Stoklasa distilled the opinions of many useless people. People who wrote songs about George Lucas raping their childhood because he added a rock outcropping to a Blu-Ray. These people are demonstrably wrong.
The thing is, RLM became *the* definitive source of why the prequels were bad. It is the opinion of that group, which is why ultimately the Plinkett Reviews are the only indictment of the prequels that matter. I have never heard anyone say he Plinkett reviews are wrong and that the prequels are terrible at the same time.
Mike also thought invading Iraq was a good idea. So did I. But time has proven us both terribly wrong. I said the prequels were garbage. Time has proven me wrong. Admit you made mistakes. Admit the prequels were not the shitty movies you pretended they were. Apologize to George. It’s the first step in becoming free of the cuckoldry of Hollywood.
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No.19727
>>19726
I wonder if this is the reason why Mike drinks so much.
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No.19729
>>19727
no, mike just knows he's a pathetic piece of shit and waste of life, that's why he drinks so much.
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No.19730
>>19727
Mike is a giant piece of shit because instead of admitting his mistake on everything he ever thought, he just went ‘lol who even cares’ and crawled further up his own asshole when the worst Star Wars movie ever came out.
Even a dead-ender committed to hating the prequels because it had a cartoon rastafarian in it is still better than Mike.
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No.19732
>>19726
Allowing Hollywood to continue existing past the 2000s was a bad idea.
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No.19736
>>19732
>Allowing Hollywood to exist was a bad idea.
ftfy
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No.19742
>>19726
>You were an implacable, spoiled gen-Xer who was angry the prequels didn’t make him eight years old again
I remember these people clearly from the turn of the century. They felt deeply aggrieved that the prequels were not a Star Wars that had "grown up with them" and treated them as being entitled to first consideration by way of seniority. It was a betrayal to them that Lucas decided to make another set of family films inclusive of that generation's prepubescent children. The fatbeards who thought they were being cultivated and elite looking down their chins at kids who wanted to buy young Obi-Wan action figures and thought pod racing looked cool. Alpha spergs who in the same breath thought Darth Maul was the most kickass thing they'd seen since Vader.
The sequel trilogy by contrast can't even manage to stand on the appeal to a motive of captivating all ages as a pardon for losing the older fans. Kids wanted the merchandise and playthings associated with the prequels even as manchildren were signaling their nerd cred by prototyping the angry reviewer fad. They liked Clones vs. Droids. They liked Mace Windu and acrobat Yoda. They played video games with prequel content. I don't see any evidence that Current Year 8-year-olds are impressed by sequel trilogy merchandise. All of the expected and admittedly excessive branding (Kylo Ren dinner mats and Chewbacca toothbrush holders) I saw before TFA came out has conspicuously vanished without a trace. I see no kids or teenagers walking around with sequel characters and scenes printed on graphic T-shirts, backpacks, jackets, or hats. I only see the occasional 30-ish bugman wearing something with the TLJ red border text logo.
Last Friday I was at my local Wal-Mart and decided to go to the toy section and see if the Star Wars toy market was crashing as bad as videos uploaded to /sw/ suggested. It was almost completely barren. When I was younger, the Star Wars section even at a Wal-Mart was bloated with merchandise not just for the prequel era material but various things from the OT and EU that only a few hardcore geeks would probably recognize. This aisle, however, had almost no action figures or play sets of any kind. The majority of shelf space was dedicated to toy lightsabers and I attribute that to wagging around laser swords never going out of style among children muhRey or otherwise. There were a couple of units with soft injection molded figurines and Micro Machines style vehicle models and some electronic gauntlet tat affiliated with Soylo. There was a scale model of Darth Vader's helmet from the Black Series going for $99.00 and a couple of Millennium Falcon toys in OT and Soylo options.
The only actual action figure on sale was a Black Series Kylo Ren, which seems to be selling relatively well. The amount of unused white space was blinding.
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No.19743
>>19742
Seems black series toys always sell pretty well compared to the other shit.
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No.19744
>>19742
>Alpha spergs who in the same breath thought Darth Maul was the most kickass thing they'd seen since Vader.
That’s how you know nobody really hated the prequels. Despite the fact that they ‘hate’ them, they all will recite the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise, Midichlorians and all. They all say they want Ewan Macgregor to come back as Obi Wan. They will all talk fondly about Republic Commando and Jango Fett.
>I see no kids or teenagers walking around with sequel characters and scenes printed on graphic T-shirts, backpacks, jackets, or hats. I only see the occasional 30-ish bugman wearing something with the TLJ red border text logo.
I feel bad for boys. Something that was distinctly for them - about spaceships, knights, blasters, smugglers, adventures with best friends, rescuing princesses, and fathers and sons (perhaps most importantly) - became this ugly equivalent of a Berkeley menstrual rally where the participants started throwing xer bloody tampons and howlng death to the patriarchy.
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No.19751
>>19742
I actually finally saw someone wearing a nu-Wars shirt. It was some tiny girl in the 8-10 range (I'm honestly not sure, I find it really goddamn hard to guess how old kids are) wearing some pink shirt with Rey and a bunch of other female Star Wars characters on it.
I really wanted to ask her a bunch of questions to figure out how much of a fan she was and then find her again in half a decade and see if she still even cared.
It was weird to find an actual member of KK's target demographic existing outside of Twitter/Tumblr/Reddit.
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No.19759
>>19751
I think the closest thing to a target demographic (beyond nu-males etc) are kids too young to know any better. I have kid brother that's 7 years old, and I see him with a TFA shirt every so often.
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No.19768
>>19742
>>19759
nobody walks around with rey/finn shirts, it's all first order characters. shit, i myself was a semi-victim of this plague, a guy i follow who makes great custom shirts did one for The Farce Awakens with the iStorm helmets on it, and i loved the design of it, so i bought one. since then, i've gotten rid of it but i don't regret supporting the artist.
>>19743
the black series figures are the "end all/be all" of star wars figures at this point. despite having shitty articulation for the most part, their level of detail is what gets them the high praise they've received.
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No.21024
I forgot where all the filoni wolf shit is, but here you go for further proof.
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No.21025
>>21024
>thwolf
>that neckbeard/fedora combo
Geez Filoni, dial it back a bit.
Also who's the guy with him?
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No.21031
>>19726
Why are Midichlorians a good thing? Genuinely curious.
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No.21033
>itt: generational shitflinging
boy you guys sure are 200+ IQ rick and morty fans for sure yep even got all the kewl maymays found on le ebin redditz to back it up yessiree
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No.21043
>Shitting on your customers.
Good work there Disney, continue doing so and you won't have any left.
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No.21045
>>21025
>fedora
That's not a fedora.
>Also who's the guy with him?
Jon Favreau
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No.21050
>>21033
>thinking anyone here gives a shit about Reddit and Memey
Disg
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No.21067
>>21025
are you young or just socially retarded?
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No.21072
>>19596
The difference between a fan and a sycophant is that a fan can criticize and accept criticism about what they love, a sycophant won't and can't.
These people at Disney only want the latter.
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No.21073
>>21031
This is an odd burden of proof. Maybe explain why it's bad.
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No.21102
Well they are right, Star Wars fans are stupid, always were. But they are condemning fans for the wrong rea$on$.
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No.21105
>>21073
They demystify the force. Plus Zahn already (before TPM was filmed) created a far better method for determining potential Jedi (force sensitives will reflexively force push away if you poke part of their mind, more powerful users means bigger push) that would have been far better for film than a number being big because we're told it's big.
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No.21106
>>21105
>They demystify the force
You could almost argue that's an advantage when you consider how the Jedi were supposed to be portrayed in the prequels. The Order was somewhat demystified itself, at the height of its power, Jedi becoming more and more politically involved while simultaneously more and more detached from the galaxy at large. There wasn't a lot of heart left in the Jedi by that point, and using a sterile, scientific blood test to look for Force-sensitives is a microcosm of that.
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No.21107
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No.21109
>>21105
No, that would be retarded. Qui Gon what, puts his hand on his forehead and suddenly Anakin knocks him over? Stupid. Given how people reacted to a little kid in the movie, having him do something like that would cause as much sperging as midichlorians.
Midichlorians don't matter much. All they are are little creatures that live in people and give you access to the force, and Lucas had a reason for including them. They aren't the force.
What really happened is gen-Xers believed midichlorians meant not everybody could be a Jedi, but that had already been established in the EU.
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No.21110
>>21109
If midichlorians are what connect us to the force do they exist in everything? What connects a rock to the force? Do midichlorians exist in the blood of all species? If midichlorians give a biological connection point, then theoretically a poison that only effected them could be designed to disconnect force users. When it was just a mystic force that flows through all life that wouldn't have been possible without using some kind of force technique. Now it just takes a talented biological weapon designer.
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No.21113
>>21110
>When it was just a mystic force that flows through all life that wouldn't have been possible without using some kind of force technique
This was never true even in the EU. Ysalamiri evolved a biological ability to disable the force within a bubble around them, and more ysalamiri meant a larger region.
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No.21116
>>21113
That only blocks the connection to the force, not a permanent disconnect. Once the force user is out of range of the ysalamiri bubble their connection returns. By targeting their midichlorians and whatever their reproduction cycles are a force user could be cut off from the force entirely. The only blocking like this had been Ulic-Qel Droma done by Nomi Sunrider, which is what I would prefer that it takes a powerful force user to deny access to another.
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No.21117
>>21109
> Qui Gon what, puts his hand on his forehead and suddenly Anakin knocks him over?
No, Qui-Gon tells Anakin to hold still, concentrates a bit then is
a: suddenly thrown across the room, showing off some Jedi agility as he lands on the wall safely
b: (if you wanted to throw away any subtlety) he gets force choked and Obi-Wan gets a bit of heroism by tackling Anakin to stop it.
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No.21122
>>21116
It could very easily be written that a distillate of ysalamiri made you disconnected from the force. The point is biological methods to block the force already existed. What you are concerned about isn't a problem.
>>21117
That is fucking dumb. Midichlorians was way better. Lucas knows best.
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No.21123
>>21117
Yeah, I'm gonna have to say that this sounds stupid.
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No.21126
Re: midichlorians
They're just Ysalmiri in reverse. Midichlorians are attracted to the force (as a food/energy source, I dunno; maybe they use it for "forceosynthesis" like chlorophyll does with sunlight), and so thrive more successfully in force users. Poof, problem solved. Force still mystical, force still applies to rocks and inanimate objects.
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No.21127
>>21126
Midichlorians are based on mitochondria, so it's like arguing that eating is demystified because mitochondria store energy for the cell and oh noes someone could starve you by killing your mitochondria.
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No.21128
>>21127
Sort of like mitochondria, but I don't think killing off midichlorians removes force ability. I think it's more like using moss to find the north side of a tree; an indicator, not a critical element of the equation.
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No.21129
>>21128
Lucas said Anakin lost a lot of power because he lost a lot of midichlorians when Mustafar happened. He eventually compensated by honing his technique but he didn't reach his full potential.
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No.21131
>>21129
So size does matter. Should've just fattened up to get more midichlorians then.
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No.21133
>>21131
It still isn't very clear what the relationship is between midichlorians and force usage, just that having more gives you more potential. But Obi Wan supposedly had a low or unimpressive count but was still a powerful jedi.
It's a bit like the difference between skill and talent. Midichlorians are natural talent but you can still compensate through skill. Anakin leaned on his raw talent a bit too much but as Vader learned to develop skill with the force to surpass his previous ability.
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No.21134
>>21129
I thought what Lucas said was that Anakin lost some of his connection to the Force because he'd lost so much of his humanity by becoming part machine.
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No.21136
>>21134
But would losing his humanity be due to having to have limbs replaced or because part of his soul died having to live with killing all his former friends and allies and believing he murdered his wife and unborn child.
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No.21137
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No.21143
>>21105
>They demystify the force
this isn't due to george's movie, it's due to your misinterpreting the movie. obi-wan said the force was the life energy of the universe, that already puts it into a semi-realistic and scientific scale, basically magic dna. it was implied from the get-go that jedi were just folk who took their time to learn to wield it. not to mention the "guardians of peace and justice" had heavy political implications as well.
maybe george didn't realize it back when he wrote the film, but he definitely setup the prequel era then just as much as he did when he started developing the backstory and worldbuilding when writing empire.
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No.21144
>>21143
>basically magic dna
meant to write magic atoms, my bad.
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