No.14893 [Last50 Posts]
Practically speaking, what is preventing a dedicated group of artists/autists on this board from establishing a non-cucked, 8ch-approved canon? We curate a list of approved materials (either by council or community vote) from old and new canon, in addition to fanworks that capture the general spirit and follow a certain set of rules.
I think this list is a solid starting point of having good material to draw from while also giving creators enough room to play around:
>KotOR I & II + Restored Content
>l8wrtr's fanedits of the Prequel Trilogy (I haven't seen HAL9000's, but I've heard good things)
>Clone Wars (2D and 3D series)
>Rebels
>Original Theatrical Trilogy
>Dark Forces/Jedi Knight series
There are 3 big problems I can see here:
>fanedits and game mods are in greater danger of disappearing due to not being nearly as widely distributed as official material
>the whole project might be nuked by a DMCA if the Mouse feels threatened
>establishing an approval process that's resistant to infiltration and low-quality work
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No.14894
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No.14896
>>14893
Rebels stopped being good during the second season.
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No.14897
>>14894
>>14896
I think it is/was a fun adventure-of-the-week series, but cutting it out frees up a lot of space in the timeline, so I can see the benefits.
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No.14898
>>14897
>I think it is/was a fun adventure-of-the-week series
That's what it was during the first and part of the second season, but as the series went on the shit they did became more and more important and their accomplishments were almost greater than anyone else's to the point where everyone even the fucking Emperor knows Space Aladdin Ezra by name and a shit hole like Lothal became the center of the fucking universe. It would've been better off just being the story of a small group of rebels doing their part on their small world, showing that even seemingly unimportant little efforts even on no name planets can make a difference to those it impacts. Instead they became the fucking heroes of time and space.
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No.14899
I think we can't consider both the pre-TCW Clone Wars and the post-TCW Clone Wars to be canon at the same time. They contradict both eachother and the greater EU too much to be consistent. And honestly, Genndy Wars is alot better in terms of being a transition between Episode II - III for not only Anakin's character but for the surrounding lore as well.
Rebels shouldn't be canon either because it's garbage that's already filled in with the Dark Horse comic books and novels taking place during that era.
Dawn of the Jedi should be stripped out of canon, mainly because it contradicts the nature of what the Force is and promotes the Grey Jedi meme At least based on what I've heard, I haven't read it so anyone who has can they educate us?. Tales of the Jedi should be canon as it was directly referenced by KOTOR. I also think whether the Light or Dark Side playthrough of those games are canon should be up to the player and have the official records be lost to time or something. I don't like the Old Republic as they ruined Revan's character and most of it was hot garbage so I don't think it should be canon either.
I haven't seen the fan edits of the prequels so I can't comment on those. Does anyone think that some book from NJO can be removed to trim the filler off of that series to make it easier to swallow?
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No.14900
>>14899
To be honest, TCW also contradicts itself a bit and even occasionally is inconsistent with the movies. Hell even Anakin's characterization (while an improvement) is far different than the Anakin we saw in the films and other media.
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No.14901
>>14899
<The Clone Wars
>They contradict both eachother and the greater EU too much to be consistent
There's no reason we couldn't take out episodes from either series.
<KotOR
>I also think whether the Light or Dark Side playthrough of those games are canon should be up to the player and have the official records be lost to time or something.
I agree. I don't like the idea of having a person's story nullified by one person's book.
>Rebels shouldn't be canon either because it's garbage that's already filled in with the Dark Horse comic books and novels taking place during that era.
This brings me to a point about this hypothetical canon that needs to be addressed. Should we be taking a minimalist approach to the timeline for new works to build on later (like that brief moment when Disney's timeline was nothing but the films and TCW), or should official material be given priority?
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No.14902
>>14901
>There's no reason we couldn't take out episodes from either series.
The clone-centered episodes are some of the best in the series (except for the brain chip bs). Nightsister and Savage Oppress shit is also a must-remove as well as Grievous shaming. Pretty much everything in season 1 that's not clone-centered bounty hunter-centered. I do have one issue about the Sly Snootles episode though. In it she lacks the fangs of her original puppet despite having the feather headpiece of the original and no longer has the secondary mouth that should prominent at her age that was also present in her original puppet and figurines. Her characterization also seems off from what was presented in previous media unless I forgot something. Overall, maybe we should try and make a lore-friendly watch order and edited versions of episodes.
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No.14904
>>14900
>>14902
>>14901
As >>14900 said, he problem with TCW is that it fundamentally contradicts Genndy Wars and the films, where Anakin was only knighted by the end of the Clone Wars whereas in TCW he was knighted during the first year. There's also the issue of Ahsoka being his apprentice, which contradicts the point of his character as by that point he should have been as immature as he was in Episode II. I think have single episodes or a new viewing order would be very jarring because of the very different interpretations of the character.
I think the goal of this should be to purify the timeline, by removing the excess and the garbage and replace it with quality novels, books, and games that make the universe richer rather than bogged down and convoluted. Since most Disney EU stuff is absolute garbage that means in the quality department, Legends stuff will win 9 times out of 10 (exceptions can be made for Tarkin).
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No.14906
>>14904
Ahsoka may have been cute (in the later seasons) but she was honestly one of the biggest wtfs about TCW. Even George admitted that he made her on the spot just to serve as a character kids could relate to.
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No.14907
>>14904
Disney's EU is garbage but the Tarkin novel was originally a pre-Disney novel and the short Obi Wan & Anakin comic miniseries is probably the only consistently good thing from start to finish to come out of that mess. Some parts of it easily fit with the day to day pre-Episode II adventures Ani and Obi had during their training. But then again, said comic is good, but by that I mean its not bad. It doesn't really bring anything new and just serves as some nice filler for what might have happened at some point back then. Otherwise, its completely forgettable.
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No.14908
>>14904
>I think the goal of this should be to purify the timeline
So you're joining me on my time traveling crusade to travel to the past and retroactively stop SJWs from ever existing?
>>14906
Ahsoka was a qt waifu from the get-go.
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No.14921
I think the better option is to pick what not to keep from the original Legends timeline (with the assumption that anything not explicitly named is kosher) for the Separatist canon, prioritizing the removal of continuity and canon-breaking media. Trying to be broader than that outside of a few universally-accepted exceptions (such as DotJ) I could see easily killing all productivity; either hang-ups on a small number of books because of personal likes and dislikes, or a clash of different people trying to establish their own respective fanfics as "true canon".
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No.14929
>>14921
I agree, we shouldn't be too ambitious when it comes to this. As such, I will list the things I want removed from Legends and you guys can yay or nay.
>Dawn of the Jedi
>The Clone Wars 2008 and all material directly tied to it
>The Force Unleashed 1 + 2
>The Old Republic
>EaW: Forces of Corruption
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No.14930
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No.14932
>>14907
the mace windu and darth maul miniseries are good as well. for some reason the prequel material disney is putting out is actually solid content and better than anything ot-based.
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No.14934
>>14904
what if we sort of re-write clone wars
i.e. have anakin still rush off to fight ventress from genndy wars, then have her return using tcw episodes? the genndy wars episode where anakin is knighted would just have to happen prior to anything in tcw where he's a knight. don't mention, or we just retcon the timeline shit, since it doesn't pick up immediately after 2's end.
on top of that, i would suggest as far as ending clone wars, use later 3d episodes, the unfinished ones as well, and then end it with genndy wars since that leads right into ep 3.
so basically, all of genndy wars that doesn't clash with tcw would be the first half, bridged with anakin's knighting and taking on ahsoka, and tcw that doesn't clash with genndy would be the second half, then a wrap up with genndy again.
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No.14946
>>14934
Rewriting TCW is a project for its own thread. It's too involved to fit in here.
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No.14948
>>14921
OP here. My concern with this approach is that if we're essentially Legends minus some stuff, but don't allow creators to fill in those gaps, interest will taper off. People will either go read existing Legends material or go to the Disney stuff since they're the only ones putting out new content. Most people already had/have their own personal canon anyway, but building up a new timeline, as opposed to trimming down an existing one, would allow room for growth where creators could submit works that fit the spirit of Separatist Canon. No purple-haired xe/xir/xim characters, presumably. Certainly no VII-IX.
As an example, most people here don't like Rebels (I'm the odd man out I guess). If we choose to throw out any material covering the time between III and IV, that's a lot for people to work with. I say we take it on an era-by-era basis and choose the very best of what each has to offer. Sometimes we'll throw out a whole era, and I think that's acceptable.
tl;dr I'm arguing for the opposite. A 'best-of' Legends with the idea that it will become essentially its own universe over time as a competitor to Disney canon.
>>14946
I'm considering making a repo on GitGud for this project (the whole canon, not just TCW). It solves some of my concerns because it's easily mirrored if something happens to it, we can link contributions to accounts, and we can (theoretically) mirror/link to mirrors of fanedits and mods like I mentioned.
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No.14949
Personally my favorite canon is the state it was in July 2008. Up to but not including the Clone Wars film or TV show.
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No.14956
>>14948
>A 'best-of' Legends with the idea that it will become essentially its own universe over time as a competitor to Disney canon.
Disney is going to shut this down.
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No.14957
>>14908
>>14930
Yes, but she shouldn't have been Anakin's apprentice. Maybe a second padawan for Obi-Wan to help mellow out Anakin at the very least. She was a good waifu before Rebels got to her but I'm not about to let my waifuism cloud my better judgement.
>>14921
>I think the better option is to pick what not to keep from the original Legends timeline
This is the best option honestly.
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No.14958
>>14949
This, however the Dark Horse comics released up until the buyout were excellent.
>>14946
This too. Its a big project that needs its own focus. Not to mention we still have that wiki that one anon never finished transfering codes for since a lot of the templates over there still don't work.
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No.14965
As the resident Ewokfag, if we go through with this, I suggest removal or heavy editing of season 2 of the Ewoks which was really fucked up by corporate meddling, turning it from the unique series with occasional drama and strong themes about responsibility and even death to a dumbed down show for toddlers in season 2 which threw out all their original personalities.
>>14932
Pretty much. Only post-PT storyline that hasn't been complete shit was the Darth Vader comic but that started losing my interest with that blood saber crap.
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No.14971
>>14949
>>14958
And of course Darth Plagueis, which was a 2012 release if I recall.
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No.15045
>>14956
>A bunch of people get together and establish a collective headcanon for a popular franchise
>Disney will "shut it down"
It's far more likely they'll ignore it entirely. If it manages to become more popular than the 'actual' canon, they'll probably just "gamergate" it, and have all the SJW news sites say it's run by nazis and harassers.
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No.15080
>>14956
we aren't making money off of it, so legally nothing is being done wrong. it's also somewhat in the realm of abandonware, which basically makes it our playground to mess around in.
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No.16137
>>14971
don't forget Maul: Lockdown. absolutely based Maul novel
It'd just be easier to say "canon up until april 2014 minus all the weird TCW contradictions". Then again, Rise of the Empire is my favourite era and I think I'm too greedy to simply decanonize TCW, so I always just turn a blind eye to any contradictions it makes. I liked the TCW comics and novels.
Is there any way you can fit TCW mandos and Traviss mandos in the same timeline?
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No.16144
>>14965
Ewoks should be written out completely, tbqh. They were originally meant to be Wookies and that's exactly what they should've been. Endor should've been Kashyyyk.
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No.16155
>>16144
Bit late for that now, m8, especially with Kashyyyk being where it's been for a long while.
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No.16192
>>16155
Maybe I'm retarded, but what significance would change? Endor no longer exists, Kashyyyk was the site of DS2.0, Palpatine's force presence remained a splotch in space for a little while, what really gets changed with removing Ewoks entirely? What actual relevance do they have in the universe outside of shitty marketing gimmick?
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No.16201
>>16192
In the old EU, a lot even if you just include The Thrawn Trilogy, which requires them to be two separate areas.
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No.16208
>>16144
If the holiday special and rots didn't exist this would be plausible.
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No.16229
>>16192
Hey c'mon now. Ewoks season 1 and the later comics were good and could have their serious moments. >>14965
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No.16452
Cast the Empire as the good side for a start.
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No.16467
>>14893
Kinda want to keep the new Vader comics
Some of the lore in it I find a bit more interesting (bleeding of Khyber crystals)
It's obvious thrawn trilogy is the actual sequel trilogy
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No.16495
>>16452
Weren't they already the good guys?
>>16201
>>16208
>>16229
Ewoks are shit and should be expunged.
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No.16499
>>16467
They'd actually be good as standalone if they didn't keep trying to tie it to the other shittier comics like the ongoing Luke ones and Dr. Aphra.
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No.16526
>>16495
They ARE the good guys, though halfchan sw disagrees and Disney insists on the only logical faction being bad.
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No.16560
>>16499
I
Well w could just keep some of the things introduced in it (sith crystals made from bleeding a fallen Jedi, sheev only using dooku as a pawn, the ancient sith armors)
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No.16561
>>16495
>tfw you blindly suck imperial cock
>tfw ewoks murdered your men
>"but empire is da bestest even betar than looke skyfucker"
>try to revisionist history
>"actually, wookies are what got the empire"
>doesn't work
>everyone will always know that you were beaten by care bear sized murder machines that eat invaders and talk to a crying mountain
Pellaeon didn't peace treaty for this.
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No.16562
>>16561
>tfw they made up the "Endor Holocaust" just to make themselves look better
<w-we lost our biggest weapon ever, our emperor, and our government's stability but at least the debris of our super weapon fell on them and it totally didn't burn up in the atmosphere or get blasted by Rebel aid! We swear…!
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No.16567
>>16562
>>16561
>enslaving a race of teddy bears to fight for you and die en masse because they think your robot is a god
Truly the Rebellion had the moral high ground.
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No.16570
>>16561
>haha, look at all these dozens of patriots who tried fighting for what they believed in
>isn't it great that they got butchered and eaten by these little monsters
>wow, we sure are the good guys in this
THE EMPEROR WAS RIGHT
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No.16571
>>16567
>>16570
>Destroy an entire planet worth billions of lives for no fucking reason other than to trigger a princess which effectively causes your once stable empire to be full of doubt and rebellion
>bitch when a few thousand troopers get blown up on both death stars and 50 or so get eaten by pygmy bears
The absolute state of imps.
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No.16576
>>16571
>implying Alderaan was real
>implying the Organa's or their "princess warrior" were ever real
>implying you terrorists aren't built on one huge pile of lies
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No.16578
>>16571
>empire blows up a planet in open rebellion because capturing it would be too costly and ignite a war
>"oh gosh these people are so evil and horrible" -the main cast
>main cast blows up a space station full of tens of thousands of men including thousands of noncombatants probably a lot of their own people POWs researchers and droids
>"WOOOOOO YEAAAAAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!"
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No.16581
>>16578
>entire empire is just a shitty knockoff of a superior model from thousands of years ago that did the job better and had a longer reign
>couldn't even maintain control of a galaxy over 20 years
>got beat by teddy bears
>blows up billions of civilian lives then bitches about their few thousand assholes getting wrecked despite signing up while knowing the risks
>their own people POWs researchers and droids
>and droids
<THINK OF ALL THE LOST DROID LIVES!
Imperial bots are fucking pathetic.
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No.16582
>>16581
At least people didn't go hungry under the Empire, which is more than the Corrupublic and the Jedi's 15,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 credit literal ivory tower
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No.16585
>>16578
>>16581
>>16582
This is making me feel all warm and fuzzy. Reminds of the fun arguments I used to see back before the Disney mess started.
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No.16586
>>16585
I miss when we thought the worst Star Wars movie was the Holiday Special, and when people went apeshit over the photoshopped Episode VII posters in '07/'08. We were so optimistic. We didn't realize how good we had it. Feels bad, honestly.
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No.16587
>>16585
Please don't bring up the present. We're trying to recapture the memories of the fun times…
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No.16588
>>16587
I came to this thread to fight Imps, not to share feels with them.
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No.16589
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No.16590
>>16588
War ravages all sides.
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No.16592
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No.16593
>>16590
No matter what side you're on, always remember we have one common enemy.
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No.16596
>>16593
I would take everything bad I ever said about Dathomir witches and their bullshit if it meant getting things back to normal.
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No.16597
>>14893
Not Rebels, but Clone Wars is okay.
>brainlets think BF2 campaign and the implant arc in later CW are mutually exclusive
Just come up with your own bro
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No.16598
>>16597
>Disney couldn't even be bothered to give them a decent budget for planet settings or even character models
At least Lucas was never cheap with his projects.
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No.16599
>>16598
Even then, it's the obviously Disney-infested story that I have a problem with.
Especially Sabine's arc with the Mandos, ew.
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No.16600
>>16599
>Especially Sabine's arc with the Mandos, ew.
Thanks for reminding me of that garbage. Only thing worse were the FoD spinoffs based on that garbage arc.
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No.16605
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No.16765
>>16578
>Implying a small squadron of starfighters could even DENT a moon-sized battle station
>Implying the "Millenium Falcon" wasn't docked at the Death Star days before the """"attack""""
>Implying Millenium Falcon isn't the name of a light freighter known to have been docked at Coruscant when Anakin Skywalker was a well-paid (((Jedi))) apprentice
>Implying Darth "totally a (((Sith))) guise" Vader isn't actually Anakin Skywalker
Remind me who the only survivor of the Death Star was again? How much do you think that thing was insured for?
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No.16778
>>16765
>inb4 your ship suffers a "fuel emergency" at a very unfortunate time and place
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No.16781
>>14894
If I marathon Rebels, will it make me want to kill myself? the last nu-wars thing I saw was TFA in 2015
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No.16782
>>16765
>Remind me who the only survivor of the Death Star was again?
darth vader was not the sole survivor, there were at least a few deserters
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No.16784
>>16781
First season is alright I guess since it had input from Lucas, and aside from some obnoxiously needless and incredibly convenient cameos by C3PO, R2D2, Lando, Hondo, some jedi and well known high ranking imperials (all of which only help to make this once vast universe feel incredibly small and limited) it still manages to have enough original material to stand on its own two legs for the most part until the travesty that is the later seasons come a knockin.
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No.16798
>>16784
Cool, where'd you hear that? Source? I thought Lucas had zero involvement with the entire series since it wasn't even his idea.
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No.16811
>>16798
Not that anon, but all I know is that George did the designs for Kessel and dropped some advice but he really wasn't that involved, unless I'm remembering incorrectly.
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No.16878
>>16784
welp just finished season 1. It was pretty gay, with the only highlight being the Lando episode and Ahsoka at the end of episode 12. I also just pirated the Kanan comic because I'm a masochist and I was happy to realize Shatterpoint evidently happened in the disney canon.
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No.16882
>>16878
>welp just finished season 1. It was pretty gay, with the only highlight being the Lando episode and Ahsoka at the end of episode 12.
Pretty much. But if you think that was bad, it gets much worse. Only reason season 1 gets more praise is because its the least foul smelling turd.
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No.16894
The furthest I'm interested in exploring nucanon is to finish the various character related threads started by TCW, and perhaps treating the nucanon material that deals in this area, as something akin to the concept of "Legends"–in other words reversing the roles so that the presumption would be that the old continuity/eu is the definitive canon and that these stories (rebels, dark disciple, ahsoka etc) would be a mishmash of unverified alternate continuity that exists in its shared post-cancellation TCW vacuum, but can fit in the pre-disney continuity should it work for the reader personally. (I.e chunks of Ahsoka might work whilst Dark Disciple might not work at all but maybe you want to read it anyway since it's based off of canceled TCW episodes etc. You get the picture ) The whole point of it being, that the reader gets some half-assed form of "what if?"-type closer for the material they want, without commiting to disney canon. It's a very meta way of looking at it. In fact, it reminds me of this idea some people had that TCW was actually an in-universe holovid series and none of it actually happened. All the dumb retcons aside, I was personally never THAT judgemental towards TCW, so it's all legit to me wherever it fits. (I'm greedy and like to have my clone wars timeline as expansive as possible). This is also why I feel like I have some kind of obligation to check out everything that's even remotely connected to TCW, even if I don't consider the nucanon portion of these stories legit.
So, what kind of nucanon material is there that fits this criteria? There's Rebels (incl 3 tie-ins: New Dawn, two Kanan comics and a thrawn comic or book), Ahsoka, Dark Disciple (as well Sons of Dathomir, but this is also an official EU comic). A big chunk of the actual TCW connections are apparently merely guest appearances/character arcs from Rebels. The thrawn book is entirely skippable as well. Would it even be worth it to compile some kind of mini-canon/quickstart guide for people that find themselves in this scenario? E.g "I've just finished TCW, but don't give a shit about nu-canon, what are my options?" Such a list should probably include those unfinished TCW animatics as well.
..On one hand, maybe additional closer is unnecessary. Maybe Ahsoka just leaves the order and disappears? Maybe Maul just disappears too until he shows up in Old Wounds again? Anyone here had similar thoughts regarding this all this stuff?
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No.16895
>>16894
>A big chunk of the actual TCW connections are apparently merely guest appearances/character arcs from Rebels.
One of the main things that killed Rebels for me was the obnoxious amount of cameos. Its like the show couldn't even stand on its own two feet without constantly relying on guest appearances which only made the nu-setting feel incredibly small.
>The furthest I'm interested in exploring nucanon is to finish the various character related threads started by TCW, and perhaps treating the nucanon material that deals in this area, as something akin to the concept of "Legends"–in other words reversing the roles so that the presumption would be that the old continuity/eu is the definitive canon and that these stories (rebels, dark disciple, ahsoka etc) would be a mishmash of unverified alternate continuity that exists in its shared post-cancellation TCW vacuum, but can fit in the pre-disney continuity should it work for the reader personally. (I.e chunks of Ahsoka might work whilst Dark Disciple might not work at all but maybe you want to read it anyway since it's based off of canceled TCW episodes etc. You get the picture )
That's pretty much how I handled it initially, but there's just so much mediocrity within the new stuff that its hard to really get invested in it. So far the only stuff that felt like it may fit this kind of criteria for me was some of the Vader comics, a bit of nu-Battlefront's campaigns (the Duros character would've probably been a good addition to the old lore) and some of the Anakin and Obi-Wan comics of their training days. I heard that the little material covering TOR is actually consistent with the old lore, but that's just what I heard. Anyway, its hard to set up a proper mini canon honestly at this point in time. Too much stuff relies to heavily on ties with the nu-Trilogy.
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No.16897
>>16895
>I heard that the little material covering TOR is actually consistent with the old lore
What material is this? Are you talking about the SWTOR eu MMO that's still running?
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No.16899
>>16897
No idea. Like I said this is just what someone told me
>the little material covering TOR is actually consistent with the old lore
That's all they said to me and I haven't bothered to try and look it up. He might've been talking about SWTOR which isn't even in Disney canon (except for those obnoxious crossguard sabers and the dianoga ripoff from TFA being mentioned in it).
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No.16909
>>16878
>happy to realize Shatterpoint evidently happened in the disney canon.
I take that back lol, I was wrong and got baited hard. Just got to the sequel comic (kanan first blood) and they backpedal on the Shatterpoint events (instead of Haruun Kal & Kar Vastor they changed it to some incident with Grievous). Not that I care I either way since it's disney canon, but still it would have been a pretty cool reference.
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No.16910
>>16909
The Thrawn book also supposedly references the Vong, but I'm sure that's just a load of empty nostalgia wank for Disney to trick oldfans into liking their shit.
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No.16912
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No.16913
>>16912
now jax I can get into
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No.16915
>>16913
I'm currently working on converting all my Pepes into Jaxxons to commemorate his induction into Disney's shitty canon and ending one of the most persistent pro-Disney arguments about why the old EU sucked, ie:
>AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE STUPID MARTIAN RABBITS!
And now you do. Sweet blissful irony.
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No.16918
>>16915
pretty good, but for it to be effective, the facial expression should be 1:1 with all the pepe variants. Have you converted nu-pepe yet?
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No.16923
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No.16924
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No.16925
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No.16926
>>16925
Fuck I messed up the ear.
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No.16927
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No.16931
This one took longer than expected.
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No.16948
>>16926
>>16927
>>16931
amazing
here's some inspo
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No.16964
>>16931
>>16918
>>16915
>>16948
While this is indeed a very noble endeavor, I suggest you take it to the Photomorph thread so as not to derail this one too much. >>13563
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No.16966
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No.16985
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No.16987
>>16983
Are you having a seizure?
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No.18388
>>14893
Do you have links for I8wtr's fanedits? I've been meaning to watch them.
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No.18469
>>18388
>fanedit.info
>search for L8wrtr
>download archives for the fanedits
>open the contained .dlc file in JDownloader
I think he's in the process of remastering them in 1080p, since the Episode I archive has a Blu-Ray link while the others don't. AVCHD still looks good though.
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No.18471
>>14929
>The Clone Wars 2008 and all material directly tied to it
Given how it contradicts pre-existing EU material pretty heavily, I agree it probably shouldn't stay. That being said, I'd like some of the characters and events kept as it wasn't too bad of a show. Something like rewriting the highlights of it fit better with older material would be a good idea. >>14934 has the right idea. It'll be quite the daunting task though.
Most of the other stuff doesn't really contradict to the same extent, so I say keep the rest. The Zann Consortium could use more fleshing out though- IIRC they were only in EaW. I'd be interested in seeing how they were affected by the Yuuzhan Vong invading. As for TFU, just retcon the part where the Rebels were supposed to be controlled opposition for Vader if you need to.
>>14902
That's more a special edition issue than anything else.
>>14957
This seems like the best way of reconciling the Ahsoka issue I've seen so far. We do need to get this project off the ground, or else we'll all just be ideas guys that didn't get anything done.
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No.18472
>>16144
a wookie insurgency would've been much better and far more believable than a bunch of teddy bears. RotJ could've had Chewbacca negotiate with them, instead of the Ewoks worshipping c3po as a god (and even as primitive sentients, they should recognize a droid in this galaxy). RotJ would still be the weakest of the OT, but a battle on Kashyyyk would close the power gap quite a bit.
>tfw wwn get a superior RotJ
Ewoks have Lucas' moronic fingerprints all over em.
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No.18527
>>18472
to add on, I thought of yet another reason why ewoks are retarded. in IV, when Chewbacca is pretending to be a captive, the Imperial officer asks
>where are you taking that… thing?
so it's established that the Imperials underestimate Wookies and barely consider them sentient. that would've been the perfect setup for the Empire to underestimate them as combatants.
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No.18528
>>18469
Apologies for being tech-illiterate. But what am I supposed to do from here?
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No.18577
>>16985
>>16987
What did I miss?
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No.18583
>>18577
I think that was just the kino shitposter sperging about Rian Johnson being a genius.
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No.18625
What parts of Filoni's Clone Wars should keep and disregard? I don't mind the idea of the 66 chips because the story made me cry like a bitch, but it's sort of hard to fit Battlefront II's campaign, though I can see how it would work. Trying to fit Genndy's Clone Wars seems a bit more difficult, but then three-years is Coruscant time.
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No.18629
>>18527
Weird that he said that due to Wookie slave labor being used to build the Death Star, but I'm sure that was added after the movie. Then again, the officer probably wasn't around during construction.
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No.18662
>>18625
have you read the republic commando books? the chip thing suddenly seems awfully dull in comparison
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No.18673
>>14921
I disagree. I think it would make sense to start from a core of "Separatist canon" material and build up from there. For example, we could establish the movies and the Thrawn books as canon, and then start evaluating games, books or comics in a chronological order in either direction.
There's a lot of erratic and sometimes conflicting content in Legends and I believe a more cautioned or systematic approach would work best.
>>18625
> I don't mind the idea of the 66 chips
I think it would be a lot more interesting and believable if the clones were conditioned from conception to obey certain commands. To me it's a little silly that master genetailors like the Kaminoans would have to resort to electronic hardware to control their clones.
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No.18675
>>18673
Yeah, that makes sense.
>>18662
No, I really ought to.
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No.18688
>>18625
I say we disregard 'The Clone Wars 2008' series completely, and replace it with the 'Star Wars Multimedia Project'.
It introduced many interesting characters and concepts that the 2008 TV series completely bastardised. Much better quality content and has little to no continuity errors. Unlike TCW which is absolutely riddled with errors and lore-breaks.
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No.18691
>>18688
I really do enjoy some of the story arcs of Filoni's, though, and I think many also do as well. Can't we take the best bits and leave the rest?
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No.18694
>>18691
You see even ashoka's existence causes a continuity error. IT gets the date of anakin's knighting wrong.
Also the nightsisters arc butchers the dathomir lore, what were originally a cool community of witches that use both sides of the force became le ebil dargsiders.
Not to mention Asajj Ventress being almost completely different to her badass portrayal in the Multimedia Project.
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No.18697
>>18694
>reddit-spacing
:^)
How many episodes did you watch m9? There are plenty of arcs besides the ones that really rape previously established canon.
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No.18698
>>18694
There's no point in arguing against Ahsoka. She has too many waifufags who will defend her to death because they grew up with her. Also, reminder that little kids who grew up squirting their peepee mayo to the sight of Ahsoka are old enough to post here now so there's no way to escape the Ahsokafaggotry. Honestly, only time I actually grew to like the character was when she began to question if the Republic were really the good guys and started sympathizing with the CIS and possibly fucking one of its members. Of course even that arc goes to shit when Dooku is dumbed down to Palpatine's patsy who is just using the CIS to further his master's plans instead of genuinely believing in the CIS cause and hating the Republic due to seeing it as corrupt like in his expanded media.
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No.18699
>>18698
Are you implying Ahsoka is my waifu m8?
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No.18700
>>18699
No, u git. I'm saying that trying to say shit about Ahsoka always results in her white knights showing up in droves to defend her. Even anti-Disney and pro-EU types who got out of their way to shit on Disney will never stop reminding us how Ahsoka's portrayal in Rebels is the only good thing to come out of nu-canon and that "she's the fucking best and proof that Disney can do things right and that Rebels is the best piece of SW media" and whatnot, even though her "revival" in Rebels was a literal asspull as she was extracted from the anus of time and space.
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No.18701
>>18700
Alright m9, but in the context of the discussion it only made sense right
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No.18704
>>18694
The best way to deal with that is rewriting it so that Plo is still her master until close to ROTS and Plo leaves her with Anakin or Obi-Wan/is assigned to work with them, or make it so that she's a friend of Anakin's from when he was a padawan. That way you still get a similar dynamic, but less continuity fuck-ups assuming Plo Koon training her isn't one.
>>18698
I like the character, but it's clear the show has series continuity issues in regards to legends. it even contradicts some bits of the movies. That and you can see nu-Canon's obsession with "kyber crystals" starting in some of the later/unfinished episodes. it's spelled Kaiburr, and there's only supposed to be one
>>18700
She should have died/stayed dead or have returned in a better show to be honest.
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No.18705
>>18698
>She has too many waifufags who will defend her to death because they grew up with her.
>Also, reminder that little kids who grew up squirting their peepee mayo to the sight of Ahsoka are old enough to post here now
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No.18708
>>18705
>Clone Wars premiered 11 years ago
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No.18710
>>18708
>>18705
Pic fucking related.
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No.18713
>>18710
Cry me a fucking river, you goddamn weebs.
I can't wait till the day or the rope so we can get rid of you cumgurgling knobgoblins.
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No.18714
>>18713
I love imageboard culture, I love Internet subculture. But I hate what it's become. Yet, everything ends in entropy, if it doesn't die prematurely, and so it is with this virtual space.
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No.18727
>>18713
Trust me, weebs will just grow in number if anything.
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No.18743
>>18727
>>18713
What's wrong with anime?
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No.18753
>>18697
I watched the whole series. Loved it, I just think that the Multimedia Project is superior.
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No.18754
>>18698
>possibly fucking one of its members
>Anakin letting a guy who got Ahsoka kidnapped by the Death Watch fuck her
He'd get choked the fuck out.
>>18700
This is bullshit, I adore Ahsoka and Rebels is still crap.
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No.18759
>>18754
>He'd get choked the fuck out.
What he doesn't know won't hurt him. Also, two teens alone on a ship, shit went down whether Ani likes it or not.
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No.18769
>>18759
>implying knocking someone out, taking their weapon and getting them kidnapped gets rewarded with sex
If just being alone on a ship with someone attractive was enough to ensure sex, Anakin and Ahsoka would have banged dozens of times because he's a dashing, handsome war hero that all the girls love and she's a sexy teenage babe.
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No.18774
>>18769
<implying knocking someone out, taking their weapon and getting them kidnapped gets rewarded with sex
Stockholm syndrome, anon. Plus who knows, maybe she's into that.
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No.18781
Well, the nigger was edited out of the poster, so that's at least a slim improvement.
For the poster.
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No.18785
>>18781
That's the poster for the Chinese market, anon. He's still there by the way, just much less prominent.
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No.18791
>>18785
At least he's in the back, where he belongs.
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No.18792
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No.18793
>>18791
You're funny, we'll Death Star you last.
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No.18812
>>18528
Use 7zip to extract the archives yourself. From there, you'll get some disc images. Either burn them to a DVD or use Handbrake (and probably something like Daemon Tools Lite) to make video files out of them.
I don't think you're really done with those downloads, though. There's no way the Blu-Ray is only 976 MB. Or have you been clearing the files from your download list as they finished? That might be why the extractions failed.
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No.18813
>>18812
>>18528
Also, are you downloading all three versions of the same edit? It looks like you are. You don't need them all, just pick a format you're happy with.
sage for doublepost
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No.18858
>>18388
>I8wtr's fanedits
this guy did edits of all the movies or just the newer shit?
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No.18859
>>18858
also i should add, what is it about his edits that gained attraction? are they pretentious dogshit like adywan's a new hope revisited, or something more like darthfan or w/e his name was that made a better episode 1 edit by reducing jar-jar and anakin?
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No.18883
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.18892
>>18859
>>18858
He's only cut the prequels. I like his edits because they follow the story (some edits make big changes like having Padme live), cut away what doesn't work, and add deleted material that benefits the picture. You can click the 'Changes' tabs on these pages for specifics.
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/sots/
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/trd/
https://ifdb.fanedit.org/dote/
l8wrtr hasn't done anything for the new films. Some people have, but I'm waiting until the trilogy is done so I can be reasonably certain the editor won't paint themselves into a corner by cutting out something important.
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No.18893
>>18859
>pretentious dogshit like adywan's a new hope revisited
is there a consensus that adywan is trash?
I've been relying on harmy's despecialized for my viewing needs.
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No.18900
>>18893
it's my consensus, and trust me, if you're the kind of fan i think you are, you'll hate it just as much as i do. also even he admitted he fucked up with it.
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No.18902
>>18900
I believe I am, and I'll take your word for it.
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No.18903
>>18892
these sound interesting, does anyone have all three? i'd like to give them a watch.
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No.18947
>>18903
Follow the instructions I left here.
>>18469
>>18812
Don't add every .dlc file, though. Just pick the one format you want. AVCHD is a good balance between quality and file size. At some point I might share them as MKV files.
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No.18948
>>14893
>clone wars 3d
>rebels
Sorry OP, I know you grew up watching them, but they're shit.
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No.18962
>>18948
This. Rebels only has about 3 decent episodes which are all in the first season and Clone Wars is a really messy hodgepodge with many making lists that already skip more than half of the episodes of that series.
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No.18976
>>18947
i don't torrent though, so if someone can upload them somewhere it would be better for me.
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No.19062
>>18976
.dlc files aren't torrents, they're link containers that can be read by JDownloader. All of the links for the fanedits are Mega files.
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No.19122
>>19062
oh, i got rid of jdownloader because it was messing my shit up.
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No.19439
>>19122
There are sites where you can upload the .dlc and just get the links, if you prefer to cut JDownloader out of it.
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No.19635
>>18727
>>18713
You idiots realize you're no better? Do you know where the fuck you are?
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No.19636
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No.19674
>>19636
>45rd
This bugs me more than it should.
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No.19686
>>19635
Hey, I wasn't knocking weebs- just acknowledging that they'll always be here, and in greater numbers in the future.
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No.19703
Some actual suggestions:
-Some sources have the Death Star 2 so large, it's superlaser is the size of the entire Death Star 1, which is pretty retarded, both in terms of completely needless extra power and crew requirements, and of how they'd built around 80% of it so quickly. It should be the same size as the first Death Star, if not a bit smaller. And the smackdown on his officers the Emperor had to lay to even get another one built would make an interesting story.*
-The hologram of Endor and Death Star 2 is representative, not to scale!
*-We're adding our own stories to the Seperatist Canon, right? And tagging them as such on big sites like Fanfic.net? The butthurt / blanket bans it would cause would be hilarious.
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