/strek/ - Star Trek

>>32912

Because they aren't very smart. Though they do in novels and it's suprisingly effective against Borg

What the hell is O'Brien holding?

whoever drew this is not good with faces

>>32912

Because it relies on transporters that are incredibly unreliable?

Personally I think a better question is why anyone in the star trek universe ever bothers with personal weapons in the first place. Those transporters they have on all planets and ships, while unreliable as a means of getting around, would be incredible anti-personnel weapons. You don't need to do a proper teleportation, you don't even need a proper lock on, just to get at least part of the targets mass and dissolve it to nothing, to kill someone and they can clearly many targets rapidly.

If you have time, just teleport the heads off everyone you don't like, if you don't have time to do it with finese, just grab random mass, ideally organic, within a 1 meter radius of the targets center of mass and poof it out of existence, no muss with rematerialising it anywhere. The ships computer should be able to automatically do that to any boarding party that tries to beam on to your ship, or the crew of nearby hostile ships the second their shields drop.

>>32925

It's Calarts. They don't teach people how to draw.

>>32926

Funny enough just read a Romulan comic where they did something similar to just that against the Borg before the Borg ended up adapting. https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Star-Trek-Operation-Assimilation/Full?id=77941#18

>>32924

It's a gun drawn by someone who doesn't know what guns look like.

>>32926

Mentioned this in another thread. Other random things you can do: transport poison gas into their lungs; transport all the oxygen out of the room they're in; bring a random chunk of metal to 800 degrees in a fire and then transport it into their stomach; transport the contents of a pressurized oxygen tank into the room, causing a shockwave when it expands (and probably then causing an explosion when the heating ignites it). Hell, if you just want to "stun" them, transport away a sliver of their spinal cord just below the brainstem; instant quadruplegia! They can beam it back in there later after they've been captured. Or beam out everyone's brains in their entirety, press the "shuffle" button, and beam them back in and watch as hilarity ensues.

>>32913

>The borg can't against bullets

Really this was the stupidest misread of the Borg ever. The original BoBW borg adapted to anything you threw at them, so if you were shooting them with guns, they'd fabricate armor plating or energy shields against projectiles (which exist in star trek). Ronald D Moore bastardized this in First Contact to be that they were vulnerable to bullets and knives.

>>32942

To be fair, none of the Borg in FC had a chance to adapt to either of those. Picard shot two drones in the space of a few seconds, and Worf just sliced up one of them.

Although, it's rather unrealistic that the Borg have never encountered ANY sort of weapon in the history of their existence. By the time the Enterprise encounters them, they should have already been adapted to counter literally anything they could throw at them.

>>32964

Isn't that much to go on.

>>32977

About all you could do is put pictures of different species' weapons and then stereotypes about them. Especially the melee weapons because they're usually very stupidly designed. The guns are all pretty much the same.

>>32966

thats ineffective, why would you run 16 different forms or freq of energy sheilding and bulky physical shielding (for a fungible drone) when you could just wait for a few to die and then make a targeted defense. The feds are still fucked when the borg show up in enough numbers (unless it happens onscreen).

>>32964

>You guys want to make one with strek weapons?

What's stopping you?

>>33052

Also remember that an individual drone is pretty much worthless to the Collective. They're only worth protecting when you've lost a lot of them or if this particular drone is doing something important

I'm surprised you don't see more telefragging in the Star Trek universe. It's enough of a hazard that even goddamn Harry Kim had his leg shattered by it in one of the voyager books.

>>32911

>Miles

>and O'Brien

>>32924

ARK-15 TommyScar 47

>>32911

Which comic is that?

>>33167

>I'm surprised you don't see more telefragging in the Star Trek universe

It's for the same reasons that you don't see the transporter, warp speed, replicator, super-mega-space-computers, holodeck, or phasers used for any one of the few hundred things they could potentially do. Either it would break all the tension in the show from that point onwards (lots of those techs are basically 'I win' buttons in almost every scenario we can imagine at the moment), or the writers either didn't think of it or thought that the story would be better without it.

>>33214

Of course, ideally a show like strek would have some kind of master document (preferably used by every one of the shows, games, books etc that use the shared IP) that explains what these techs do, what has been established as impossible for them, the various ways you can wreck the setting with them if you're not careful, and all the rules the writers have established to keep them interesting without being OP. Any deviation from that document would have to be very carefully considered with at least a few people thinking through what it would potentially mean for future episodes.

With something like that we wouldn't have pocket nuke phasers, intelligent holo-characters (I know losing the EMH would be a blow, but it's a colossal plot hole waiting to happen), and it would probably have saved us from STD (or at least its ridiculous drive system). Then again, maybe we're just here to suffer.

>>33221

Show Bibles exist and are considered standard practice for most if not all (american) shows, but how (and if) they are enforced differs show to show and at the disgression of show writers and series execs, so the document probably exists, just nobody cared.

>>33292

>nobody cared

Yeah, I can see that being the reason. We're never going to get /strek/s autism trek are we?

>>33297

>We're never going to get /strek/s autism trek are we?

Nope. We're fucked. Everything's fucked. Can't wait for dotr.

>>33221

>ideally a show like strek would have some kind of master document

Every show has a bible, it's even easier these days for a writer to keep up with the lore and the canon with Memory Alpha.

>>33301

So they just don't care then

>>33311

Exactly.

Ha, I really want a solid take on the Stre/k/ RPG but I keep getting bogged down in mechanics. I'm watching thru TOS and trying to get something that captures that feel inside a roman legion like command structure. The federation is the human empire actually commanding thousands of worlds and working on a population of a quintillion, with literally billion and billions of people in Starfleet. The game would revolved arround the 'mostly peaceful exploration, diplomacy legion (the tenth Expeditionary force with the other legions 1-9 having their own jobs from sol system defence aka 1st legion to Station Engineering, Science, big honking space navies (4-7) and finally the logistics and expeditionary forces.

I really like the idea of a half strength legion (compard to the double strength 4-7) of 6000 ships of 1k people each just doing their best to categorize the wild world out there (and of course stripping the names and junk out of the IP as you go) before deciding which follow up legion should get it's hands on it (with all the politics that comes with that).

Basically make the terran empire but not fucking pants on head retarded or evil for the sake of being evil and see how it would actually function in the star trek universe.