544665 No.32891
A little something I have been meaning to take a note of for the longest time and that is the role of democracy in Trek. In particular how various races elect their leaders or people into leadership positions.
It is implied heavily that the Romulans have Senators that are elected but how or who they are elected by remains unclear.
The Cardassians could have something similar with their Detapa council but nothing is quite established.
The Klingons while ran by a High Council do have some semblance of an electoral process if only if it is a contest to show who is most fit to lead the Council.
About the only faction we see that does not has a clear established Democratic process is the Federation.
>But anon, le President and the council!
Yeah but it appears to be made up of heredity members that are clearly unelected. There also seems to be no reference to elections in the Federation at all with Presidents seemingly chosen at random. You'd think that such an important matter would be a plot point of a single episode but nothing is ever said on the subject matter.
So if I were to make a summary of my observations; Democracy does not exist in the Star Trek universe. Advancement only by sheer merit or heredity status exists.
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9f5d73 No.32893
>>32891
>have some semblance of an electoral process
Where? The Chancellor is chosen by the Arbiter of Sucession, not an election. The Great Houses are hereditary.
>Yeah but it appears to be made up of heredity members that are clearly unelected
Name the episode where Federation officials are shown to be hereditary.
>You'd think that such an important matter would be a plot point of a single episode
Why do you think it's an important matter? Even if it was, the commie Feddies probably look down on Starfleet getting involved in civilian politics, because they're scared of the very influential military subverting muh democracy.
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3efcd4 No.32899
>>32891
In DS9's Homefront the President is specifically stated to have been recently elected, and they contrast his election against the attempted coup.
The reason the Federation seems undemocratic is because almost everything we see is through the eyes of Starfleet and one vessel per series in particular, and a military vessel is not a democracy.
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b1ca58 No.32940
I doubt the Romulan government is actually fairly elected, seeing how openly corrupt their society is.
Cardassian government is basically a junta so of course those are appointed, not elected. The civilian population has zero power.
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898d0a No.32943
>>32940
Not quite. The Cardassian Detapa Council is elected rather than appointed. They just have no power of any sort, and the military gets everything done.
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ae002f No.32944
Ferengi seem to be at the point of a constitutional monarchy, and an elected Grand Nagus in a few decades isn't out of the question? Then it would be practically a republic and a representative democracy.
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74d06b No.32949
>>32944
They're probably an oligarchic republic or something
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898d0a No.32952
>>32949
It's probably most correct to say Ferenginar is a constitutional elective monarchy.
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8cde70 No.32958
>>32944
What they used to be is irrelevant. After Zek went senile and put Rom in charge they probably assign government roles through 'affirmative action now i.e. women only.
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abe9c3 No.32965
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74d06b No.33001
>>32949
>>32952
*plutocratic republic with lifetime-appointed leaders
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99fff6 No.33020
>>32944
>>32949
>>32952
>>32958
Wasn't there a board of FCA liquidators that could curb his power?
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9cafcf No.33025
>>33020
Yes, that's the Constitutional part of 'constitutional elective monarchy.'
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46db73 No.33027
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70875b No.33505
>>32891
It bothers me that we've seen the President and Federation Council a few times, but never the United Earth Prime Minister and Senate etc.
Although part of the UFP, the UE does still exist as the sovereign one world government for Earth, right?
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169ce8 No.33538
>>33505
>Although part of the UFP, the UE does still exist as the sovereign one world government for Earth, right?
That is an excellent question.
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ea1bf1 No.33540
>>33505
Almost certainly, as we hear threats of certain worlds and races leaving the Federation, they must have some sort of representative body to fall behind. I always assumed they were like American states and the Federation was the Union. The Maquis are obviously the Confederacy.
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0fe580 No.33550
>>33540
I wouldn't be surprised if some United Earth civilians living planetside joined the Maquis just as a fuck you to the Federation.
There's a unique Star Trek plot for you.
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783c64 No.33626
>>32958
I always assumed he was thrown from the top of the Tower of Commerce within his first year.
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4ce9b7 No.33630
>>32891
I somehow have the impression that the federation is a dictatorship dressed up as democracy. 2 party system without the chance of other parties gaining traction.
Also, while we are at it, peacefully uniting lots of planets and cultures and integrating them into your federation is still imperialism in my book.
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675f02 No.33631
>>33630
There's also that whole thing about " they've moved beyond petty things like greed racism and hate". Not in a "we have learned to better suppress and control these feelings now" but outright "we just don't have them at all anymore" even though those traits are so inate to the human condition that you'd need crazy soul destroying 1984 levels of social engineering to program out of people like that.
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169ce8 No.33634
>>33631
Maybe there's more to the eugenics wars than we know.
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675f02 No.33635
>>33634
It is a interesting line of thought if the augments pretty much started with full bore genetic Supermen like Kahn or if there was slow ramp up in how much mucking with genes they were doing. It's entirely possible Earth society went through a Gattica like stage prior to the eugenics wars and the early low level genetically engineered people (that were subject to all sorts of new modifications intended to make them better members of society) bred with the general populations for a few generations before the shit hit the fan, so the entire current ST human population could have at least a little altered genetic code in them.
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169ce8 No.33637
>>33635
It certainly makes more sense than a geneticist just waking up one day and deciding to make a genetically engineered overlord or whatever.
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