b604a5 No.30181
What does /strek/ think about its premise and concept? I know that the movies weren't particularly good with the last two being particularly egregious, but is it fundamentally flawed to begin with or worthy of continuing under different direction? What would you think if it continued with a Kelvin Picard rather than Kirk?
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e4e59c No.30182
I don't hate it. I don't particularly like it either. The movies are fine for what they are.
I think the most fun that could be had with it is it's potential to remix the Star Trek we know. Would be kind of fun to get "what if" scenarios, like what if contact with the Borg had been made during the TOS era. I think it's disappointing they passed up their chance to make Khan an ally of Kirk's rather than an antagonist. It felt like Into Darkness was going that way for a moment, and that would have been a legitimate twist.
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e4e59c No.30183
One of the things I was most looking forward to in a potential fourth movie was seeing how the crew adapt to the death of Chekhov.
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83456a No.30185
>>30183
I'd say they hit a wall with that one.
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9074a8 No.30189
I honestly just wish they'd have the balls to just do an alternative universe. Without the weird time travel to tie the JJverse into the original and pretending that it makes even a tiny bit of sense for the kelvin incident to act as a point of divergence between the two. Or STD's insisting that it's in continuity with tos.
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ff412c No.30190
>>30189
But if they did that, they wouldn't have been able to bring Leonard Nimoy in for some cheap nostalgia bait.
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641835 No.30193
2009 and Into Darkness were between a "meh" and a "ew" for me. From how dumb Nero was to the really stupid Khan stuff along with the other fucking bullshit about how Section 31 apparently has a massive ship which farts as it goes to warp.
Beyond actually was a film I enjoyed and really liked. The characters had actually good interactions with each other and the premise wasn't totally ripped off from something else. The villian was dumb, but we expect that from Star Trek films at this rate. The only Trek film villians which were good were Khan from Star Trek II and Shinzon from Nemesis.
Eh. I can at least take solice in the fact that the quality of writing was better in Beyond than it has been in Discovery on average.
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9074a8 No.30194
>>30190
They can though. Just instead of playing time traveling universe splitting Spock, in our Star Trek AU he can play an old admiral or something. Why does Seth fucking MacFarlane of all fucking people seem to understand that you can have nostalgia bait casting without reusing characters? Why in this era where people go to see all the latest capshit rebooted billions of times and understand that different continuities can exist side by side, are the people in charge of Star Trek convinced that the difference between trekies liking or hating new shit in based on it being in continuity with the old shit?
The mere existence of the Orville is proof that people will give a show a chance based on it being sold as "basically Star Trek" despite obviously not being in any Star Trek continuity. Why can't the CBS/Paramount jews make the obvious step of "Star Trek but not in continuity"? They'd then have to make something actually good to get fans on board, but declaring it openly a separate canon would even give them more freedom to blow shit up in their generic action schlock.
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49536e No.30199
>>30183
I was looking forward to seeing the kelvin timeline's enterprise-a.
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7d9005 No.30200
>>30193
>>30182
Apathy is death.
>>30181
To me, this was the start of 'nerdom' dying. Yeah, Big Bang Theory and than the like had been out since 2007 but the 2009 film? It's sacrilege on an unprecedented scale. They don't try to adhere to canon, they make it the most broad movie possible to normies. JJ and his fucking lens-flare and fuck him for wanting to make SW but he only had the ST license at the time.
The movie itself I find horrendous but what it's done for ST is still being felt today, with STD.
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ff412c No.30214
>>30200
>Yeah, Big Bang Theory and than the like had been out since 2007 but the 2009 film? It's sacrilege on an unprecedented scale
That actually fits the timeline perfectly, when you think about it. Brapp Bazinga Theory wasn't complete trash when it first aired still overwhelmingly mediocre though, it only got real bad around Season 2-3 (so around 2009), when normies jumped on it en masse, characters with vaginas were introduced, and pop culture references were abound.
>JJ and his fucking lens-flare and fuck him for wanting to make SW
You of all people should know that JJ doesn't have the slightest idea of how to make a SW movie either, Traya.
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ff959f No.30225
>>30214
>Bazinga Theory
Bazinga Theory anyway is just a poor knockoff of the IT Crowd.
>JJ doesn't know how to make a SW movie
No but he knows how to copy one scene for scene.
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