d45884 No.28417
https://web.archive.org/web/20190109150438/https://comicbook.com/startrek/2019/01/08/star-trek-4-shelved-not-happening/
>The news comes from a piece by Deadline concerning SJ Clarkson. The director will be directing and executive producing HBO’s first Game of Thrones prequel pilot, but that news spells doom for Star Trek. The director was meant to oversee the next sci-fi blockbuster, but Deadline says the film has been put away.
Bad Robot BTFO
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a59784 No.28420
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179544 No.28425
The Kelvin timeline might be shelved forever but sadly Bad Robot is still at the helm of the tv shows.
STD is going to end this year but there's a Picard spin-off focused on the aftermath of Romulus destroyed by a supernova.
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4871cc No.28441
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bd102b No.28444
>>28425
I hope Picard is not a captain but an Ambassador. It's what he kinda always was and it's his endgame.
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aa50e7 No.28461
>>28444
I just want to see him in a tearoom with Q.
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a86636 No.28837
>>28461
>comfy picard and Q, with just a hint of animosity.
I would watch it.
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7f765b No.28843
the picard series is being called a limited series now, and the space Hitler gilf series seems to be completely dead.
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a4c338 No.28846
>>28417
I actually liked the first one. I recently rewatched it and it was no where near as bad as I expected it. The sequels are just awful, though.
>inb4 they make a new one that's TNG recasted
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64114a No.28853
>>28461
Umineko but with Picard and Q instead of Butler and Beatrice
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dca422 No.28872
>>28843
I don't think it's even happening at all now.
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4ad027 No.28899
>> Pitch to interested CBS execs I know read this board…
> John da Lancie in character as "Q" hosting a talk show
> at the snap of a finger he wills unwitting guests into public shaming
> instantaneous paternity results
> shitty and low budget enough for CBS All Access
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386674 No.28901
>>28846
Honestly, I enjoyed the first and third movies of the Kelvin timeline. But I've just recently started watching TOS and it's become crystal clear just how far they deviated the characters. It's also kind of amazing how inferior the Kelvin actors are to the originals, aside from maybe Bones.
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81e7f3 No.28905
>>28901
Karl Urban was the only good actor.
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0af50d No.28912
>>28905
>>28901
Urban got McCoy really right. I just wish they could have done more with the character and show off more of what made him a very interesting and likeable character in TOS.
McCoy was that weird mix of Southern coyboy, intelligent doctor, witty guy and relaxed friend who just was never, ever replicated in other Treks.
Phlox was really the only other doctor in Trek who came across as a nice person you would want to be friends with and have a conversation with about all sorts of stuff.
Bashir came across as snobby, The Doctor/EMH basically had the personality of Zimmerman, Crusher kind of came across as a competent but inexperienced doctor and Pulaski came across as a stuck-up bitch.
Oddly enough, Crusher, Pulaski and Bashir have all been the characatures of doctors I've come across IRL. Phlox, the most likeable doctor, is more like some family friends I know who are GPs (but who I've never seen as a doctor).
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216d29 No.28921
>>28901
I think all three of them were pretty okay as dumb action adventure movies. They just aren't really what I want out of Star Trek. If the first one had been a light introduction to the franchise, and then the sequels had settled into slightly more cerebral stories, I would probably rate this series quite highly. There's a lot I do like about it, such as the visual design.
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aad34a No.28930
>>28912
> I just wish they could have done more with the character
Blame their repeated attempts to make NuUhura an actual main character instead of just focusing on the Kirk/McCoy/Spock trinity
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e13701 No.28934
>>28930
>that pic
Is that supposed to be Uhura? I thought she was black.
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0af50d No.28935
>>28930
>make NuUhura an actual main character
Even original Uhura made a good main character in the movies and The Animated Series. She was incredibly under-rated as a character.
Shatner had issues with her being more than a background character "just doing their job", but it's well established even in TOS that she could also take over the helm if necessary and could also use the science scanners if Spock was unavailable.
"NuUhura" was basically a poor attempt at making her someone who she wasn't. Uhura was supposed to be a competent officer who could do her job well and also do other jobs when necessary, including being on away missions. She was supposed to be the jack of all trades kind of officer who would on top of all ship functions and could do them very well. "NuUhrura" was her being a "Xenolinguist" with "exceptional aural/oral(?) sensitivity".
As far as I could tell, Enterprise established that up until the Universal Translator became more of a thing in the later 22nd Century, having a linguist who would need to manually translate whatever language into English and back again was necessary. Uhura was never the same kind of officer that Hoshi Sato was.
I don't think we ever saw an actual character in Uhura in any of the other Treks. Uhura was like the all-round bridge officer who was the person you needed to man every position on the bridge when necessary.
Meanwhile "NuUhura" becomes more this weird character who isn't the competent bridge officer she was, instead she serves this weird non-role of just sitting around on the bridge just saying stuff. When you think about it, she replaced both McCoy's and Crusher's/Troi's role in their respective series, yet she didn't seem to have a job outside of saying that the Romulans were Romulans in the 2009 movie.
Is it just me, or does anyone else actually reallly like the old Uhura from TOS and those movies? She was like the best officer you wanted to run your ship and was really resourceful. You could always rely on her and she could do any job you needed her to. She might not have been a specialist at any specific role, but she knew how to run a ship.
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26fb63 No.28938
>>28934
Blacks are ugly, and even Hollywood knows it, so they give you ones just black enough to be "exotic" while not being 200% Nigger repulsive. Except when they overreach and go all-in thinking they've won too much for anyone to complain, like they did with Star Wars.
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e52361 No.28944
>>28935
>Is it just me, or does anyone else actually reallly like the old Uhura from TOS and those movies? She was like the best officer you wanted to run your ship and was really resourceful. You could always rely on her and she could do any job you needed her to.
As a youngling nah, as an older man who has come back to watch TOS recently yes for some reason. Also I like TOS a lot more than I remembered.
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f15e2b No.28946
>>28935
>NuUhura
Nu-hura or nuHura would suffice
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521d26 No.28950
>>28901
>>28905
>>28912
Karl Urban showed up to the set wearing his costume from Judge Dredd and everyone was too afraid to ask him to take it off.
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a4c338 No.29003
So how would /strek/ rank the films? I don't recall Undiscovered Country or the two middle Next Gen ones, so I'm not including them. For me, I suppose:
Wrath of Khan > Voyage Home > 2009 > Search for Spock > Generations > EXTREMELY LARGE POWER GAP > The Motion Picture > Beyond > Into Darkness > Wizard of Oz > Nemesis
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4399e3 No.29007
>>29003
Why put Nemesis so low?
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d2ba70 No.29008
>>28935
>"NuUhrura" was her being a "Xenolinguist" with "exceptional aural/oral(?) sensitivity".
They thought communications officers are just operating a phone boot. Coordinating communications with the whole ship is not an easy job.
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d352ad No.29009
>>29003
Stick First Contact in between Wrath of Khan and Voyage home.
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d2ba70 No.29010
>>29003
The TNG movies are like the prequels of Star Wars. Let's just pretend they never existed.
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a4c338 No.29011
>>29007
Everything in the film was set up in such a way so that Data would have this ridiculous arc, and in the end they couldn't even commit to that. The plot was already done anyways, with 2 and 3. It's like how The Motion Picture was literally a copy of a TOS episode. Also dune buggy.
>>29009
I really have to watch First Contact. My father claims that he wrote a script and sent it in and that while he was denied, the movie borrowed heavily from it. I've seen it before, but I was young and didn't care so much.
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c2e2ec No.29013
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>29003
WoK>VH>FC=UC>SfS>MP=Gen>other trash.
>>29007
Everything about Nemesis is wrong. Plot is so full of holes and contrivances that I won't even bother listing all of them. B-4 is buried on a desert planet for no reason, the Enterprise can detect positron emissions from a disabled droid for no reason, Shinzon somehow knows and find out about B-4 for no reason. Picard is also an action hero, which subverts his character, and kills random aliens from a dune buggy for no reason. Shinzon's lieutenant mind-raping Troi for no reason. Data "heroically" sacrificing himself when there was no need for him to, then coming back to life anyways, undermining the value of his sacrifice. The only good thing that came out of Nemesis was the concept of Remans (which was poorly executed) and this masketta scene, which only existed in pre-production and never made it onscreen.
>>29009
I really want to like FC more, but the Borg Queen retardation really drags it down for me.
>>29010
Ackshually, while heavily flawed the /sw/ PT are diamonds in the rough and aren't nearly as bad as normies make them out to be. It just became trendy to hate on them because of that Hack Fraud Media review, and normies just started blindly repeating what those videos said without comprehending the words.
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e52361 No.29017
>>29013
>Not wanting to kill everything on that ship
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9d4816 No.29019
>>29013
>The only good thing that came out of Nemesis was the concept of Remans
I liked the "uglier sub-race treated as slaves until they rebelled and took over" concept better when it was how some of the older comics and novels explained away the changes between the TOS and movie klingons. The Romulans already had plenty of shticks for writers to play around with, they didn't need to have a pet race of literal morlocks retconned into their lore out of nowhere.
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f5e33a No.29022
>>29019
You could say the Vulcans use humans as pet soldiers to do the dirty work of the galaxy while keeping their hands clean. It isn't that far of a stretch for an empire the size of the Romulan empire to have a primary sub race of grunts.
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196bfc No.29025
>>29022
>You could say the Vulcans use humans as pet soldiers
I would unironically love to see this idea get more widespread acceptance (sure, they went a little ways in that direction on ENT, but then fanboys got salty over muh flawless spehss elfs and suddenly Archer was carrying the True Word of Surak around in his head)…
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8a4763 No.29026
>>29011
>It's like how The Motion Picture was literally a copy of a TOS episode
Why do people keep saying this? While TMP's premise is clearly modeled after TOS The Changeling, it explores the premise in a very different way. The TOS episode was about uncovering the mystery of Nomad's change, and using its own damaged computer logic to defeat it. TMP was about a machine on the verge of becoming a sapient life form.
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196bfc No.29027
>>29026
>TMP was about a machine on the verge of becoming a sapient life form.
And using its own damaged computer logic to defeat it.
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0fe40d No.29030
>>29026
>>29027
TMP is proof of what a moron Gene Roddenberry is. It's faux-deep, because there's really no interesting question there.
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1652fa No.29031
>>29013
Did Tom Hardy crash Star Trek with no survivors?
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e13380 No.29033
>>29026
The real problem with TMP is that, regardless of whether or not it's a rehash, it's just a long TOS episode. Aside from some (admittedly really nice) detailed shots of the ship, Roddenberry and company didn't really take advantage of the film medium to do things they couldn't easily do in the TV series. Generations has this issue as well, it's just a long TNG episode but with the Enterprise exploding.
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55025c No.29131
>>29033
The journey aspect of the movie was nice but it was a bit too up it's own ass with very little payoff at the end.
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ccdbdb No.29141
>>29013
>while heavily flawed the /sw/ PT are diamonds in the rough and aren't nearly as bad as normies make them out to be
The prequels as a whole are pretty effectively summed up by Anakin's infamous sand line.
A good idea and good intentions but a somewhat flawed delivery Anakin's woodenness not being the whole issue, since it makes sense for the character, but more the flow and framing of the conversation, yet met with a hysterical and disproportionate reaction by normalfags parroting (often outright false) talking points they got from YouTubers (in the sand line's case, the idea that it was a superficial or meaningless line, failing to acknowledge that it was a direct display of Anakin's mental state and how heavily his past was weighing on him. Seriously, what fucking planet do you think he grew up as a slave on, and on which, he is very aware, his mother is STILL a slave while he picnics with royalty?).
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2d51b4 No.29152
>>28935
A charming negress.
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84b2e7 No.29225
>>29141
Prequels would have worked well as a high budget tv series rather than a film.
The whole problem with them is that Lucas was trying to cram in the equivalent of 20 years of character growth, political intrigue and events for dozens of characters in the space of 6 hours. He tried to do a more adult focused Star Wars while trying to retain the kids aspect of it as well which also just doesn't work. The end result is that Anakins motivations are shakey at best, the relationship between Obi-Wang and Anakin doesn't really feel natural, Sheev rise to power feels rush, Seperatists are one dimensional, and the Jedi just look like retarded assholes okay the last part might be true
In many aspects the Clone Wars cartoon is what saves the prequels as it heavily fleshes out the characters, the war, and the galaxy. There's more character growth and development in them than many dramas.
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1fe443 No.29231
>>29225
>In many aspects the Clone Wars cartoon is what saves the prequels
You best be talking about Genndywars and not Furloni's abomination, anon.
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ee559c No.29233
>>29231
>Wookies
Would you toss a Wookie?
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48591d No.29236
>>29233
Search history:
>droid attack wookies
>droid on wookie
>multiple droid on one wookie
>wookie attacked by droid
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6bb882 No.29333
>>29231
Genndywars is overstylized crap for manchildren.
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e9d942 No.29353
>>29333
ALL Star Wars is overstylized crap for manchildren. It's Flash Gordon on a bigger budget.
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4943df No.29364
>>29333
You shut your whore mouth.
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73c892 No.29456
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adeb94 No.30359
So may as well ask here. What's happened with the Picard show?
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