58e81c No.27566 [View All]
How different would Star Trek have turned out if it premiered today instead of in the '60s? Would it still be recognizable as Star Trek, or would it just not be the same with the current zeitgeist?
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912be3 No.27574
it would be a shitty remake of a different science fiction property from back in the era where people actually created new IPs.
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306c19 No.27580
>>27574
Unfortunately true. It would be STD level rape of continuity whatever show became the alt-reality Star Trek in absence of Star Trek.
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77704e No.27594
All Star Trek incarnations would have been 10X better if capitalism had been replaced at some point in the past hundred years.
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31373d No.27595
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77704e No.27596
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ad30da No.27598
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bcfa7f No.27604
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31373d No.27607
Don't respond to the butterfly tranny.
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58e81c No.27613
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77704e No.27614
>Rick and Morty guy to do animated comedy Star Trek
I'm telling you, capitalist structures kill the arts. Business executives and producers don't know shit.
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31373d No.27616
>>27613
>failing reading comprehension this hard
I'm not the the salty one, I'm poking fun at the retarded tripfag.
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406505 No.27618
>>27613
>newfag doesn't know we like Ferengi and Cardassians here
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5357c3 No.27626
butterfag is just here because /b/ stop putting up with his shit.
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406505 No.27630
>>27626
WELL WE DON'T WANT HIM HERE EITHER!
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7372fe No.27639
>Butterfly
>Is a tranny faggot degenerate
What's with trannies wanting to be butterflies? So many Butterflies turn out to be trannies.
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1d1101 No.27640
>>27598
>space jew posting
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1d1101 No.27641
>>27566
>Star Trek Diversity
did you really have to ask such an obvious question?
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cb5256 No.27656
>>27639
probably the whole ugly caterpillar going into a cocoon and coming out a beautiful butterfly metaphor
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7372fe No.27657
>>27656
They need to be gassed. Especially the fat ones for trying to talk your ear off or spam you with a massive fucking wall of text.
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736793 No.27661
>>27640
>Implying the Ferengi are anywhere near as hate driven as (((them)))
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693dc7 No.30039
>>27594
>now is time for state-issued Space Program, in lieu of rations
>begin scene
>Comrade Kirk, Klingons are attacking glorious Soviet Federation!
>Ah yes, those Capitalist pigs shall pay. Set course for Klingon homeworld, comrade Sulu!
>[warp engines hum to the tune of USSR National Anthem]
>Comrade Kirk, we have arrived. The Klingons are hailing. They wish to sell us space toilet paper and bread.
>I miss bread.
>Security, take him to gulag! Tactical, destroy Capitalist dogs!
>[Soviet anthem intensifies as a single rocket, emblazoned with a hammer and sickle, destroys the entire planet]
>[Poor working-class people from all over the galaxy shed a tear in celebration and solidarity. The clouds part. Sunshine warms their faces. Crops bloom into life and livestock fatten before their very eyes. Men in business suits take off their ties, roll up their sleeves, and begin to toil alongside their brothers on factory floors. Nobody is ever cold or hungry again. The galaxy is now shaped like a hammer and sickle.]
>Also theater is train car. You all go to Siberia now.
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f17155 No.30064
>>27656
Did somebody mention fat trannies?
>webm related
>>30039
>Pic related
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1b6349 No.30066
>>30039
>Not ending the episode with Stalin himself transporting onto the bridge to congratulate Comrade Captain Kirk and name him a Hero of the Soviet Space Union.
Go to Gulag
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af4342 No.30077
More to the point, it would most certainly be grimdark and that would preclude any possibility of franchise development. In the 60's, space was a cultural obsession and it was common "knowledge" that by the year 2000 man would be traveling the stars. The entirety of TOS is filled with this campy optimism, which provided a foundation from which the other series took its cues and worked from. TNG explored the more realistic human element with characters that were more than just one-dimensional pastiches. DS9 went a little darker and more gritty with the war aspect and showed off perspectives from many different alien cultures. VOY explored the realities of extreme isolation and self-sufficiency you'd realistically get traveling interstellar distances.
But if you start with a super-realistic grimdark series, you can't go anywhere from there. Trying to make a sequel series that is more optimistic would come off as mere parody. So instead of being a seminal franchise, Star Trek would have been a single series that was perhaps a cult classic, but certainly not enduring. Basically Firefly, except with really bad CGI.
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31373d No.30099
>>30077
>VOY explored the realities of extreme isolation and self-sufficiency you'd realistically get traveling interstellar distances.
It really didn't though, not to any appreciable depth. They attempted to touch on that a handful of times in Season 1, but all of that got pushed by the wayside in favor of TNG-lite episodes, interspersed with ruining of the Borg and the EMH carrying the whole series. Season 3 ENT and VOY: Year of Hell were the only ones that properly emphasized isolation and what it implied. The Xindi arc even had the ship get progressively more beat up over time as well.
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f0a7ac No.30100
I think it's quite hard to imagine what the sci-fi genre would even look like, without the 50 years of development that followed Star Trek. TV in general might have quite a different form.
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c169a5 No.30104
>>27594
It did though? A post-scarcity society doesn't have any use for scarcity-based economic "philosophy". Guys like Mudd are jerks maybe just because they make a point of being jerks.
Or do you mean our shows would have been better if capitalism had been replaced IRL?
same
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2b2779 No.30112
>>30104
>Guys like Mudd are jerks maybe just because they make a point of being jerks.
Unless the Feddies basically have some sort of social credit system in place on all their worlds and being anything the goodest little space socialist possible can easily lead to you being cut off from all those wonderful post-scarcity services and left to fend for yourself in a cold, uncaring freemarket universe.
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693dc7 No.30118
>>30104
> scarcity-based economic "philosophy"
The fact that you say this as though scarcity isn't a fundamental fact of the Universe, known to physicists as Conservation of Mass and Energy, calls into question your ability to coherently comment on anything, let alone science fiction television programs.
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de955e No.30120
>>30112
Supposedly the Feds do have a currency based system in place but most people do not make acquiring them a goal Yeah, I know, it's dumb
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c169a5 No.30144
>>30118
You're the same guy namefagging in every thread using sage, right? I ask because all your posts are consistently awful and have the same pseudointellectual teenager tone.
"Post-scarcity" is an established term and such a well-known economic concept in both sci-fi and eco theory that it's actually pretty funny that you are somehow ignorant enough to trip over your tiny swinging dick like that.
A+ posting and gratz on paying attention the first week of middle school physics class.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-scarcity_economy
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31373d No.30145
>>30144
>in both sci-fi and eco theory
Your own kikepedia link only mentions Marx and AnComs, who have as much to do with genuine economic theory as witch doctors have to do with practicing medicine.
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c169a5 No.30147
>>30145
>A no true scotsman argument! That's the ticket!
You really got me there.
Lemme help you out:
https://www.google.com/search?q="star+trek"+"post+scarcity"
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364930 No.30168
>>27566
It would almost certainly be over-designed and action focused. Modern television watchers seemingly demand everything be an overly produced movie that is constantly fast paced. When the best Star Trek episodes were just a few people in a room talking to each other. As bad as STD is, it clearly represents what the producers think modern viewers want. Even if it's bland and just blends in.
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efbc6a No.30180
>>27566
Federartion would be all black. Klingons would look like LotR Orcs but be white. Romulans would be something like Harkonens from Dune.
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c6ce6f No.30226
>>30180
>Harkonens from Dune
Would be okay with this.
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af4342 No.30803
>>30099
>Muh torpedoes
I figured that out a long time ago. In the official technical diagrams for Voyager, there's something that looks suspiciously like a spare warp core. So why did they only ever have one? Because they took the antimatter out of the spare and used it to make new torpedoes.
>>30118
You're correct that space is finite, but compared to tiny things like humans, it may as well be infinite. A single gas giant provides enough raw resources to make a dyson swarm that can comfortably house quadrillions of people. Put another way, Minecraft is also finite, but I challenge you to even imagine being able to mine every single fucking block in it.
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68572e No.30808
>>30803
>there's something that looks suspiciously like a spare warp core
Actually that's just Janeway's coffee grinder.
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562312 No.30810
>>30803
>Because they took the antimatter out of the spare and used it to make new torpedoes.
Then why did they ever kvetch about having a limited supply of them in the first place?
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af4342 No.30974
>>30808
>Janeway's coffee grinder is powered by anti-matter
Seems legit. But here's a question: do you suppose there is any difference between coffee that is replicated directly, and coffee that is made in an actual espresso machine with grounds made from replicated beans?
>>30810
They were worried about running out of torpedoes but didn't want to sacrifice the spare warp core, until the time came when there were simply no more torpedoes (or not enough to ensure they wouldn't run out in the middle of a battle) and so had to dismantle it. It's always nice to have a backup, but surviving the current situation takes precedent because if you're dead the backup does you no good.
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94659b No.30985
>>30974
>do you suppose there is any difference between coffee that is replicated directly, and coffee that is made in an actual espresso machine with grounds made from replicated beans?
They had a whole hydroponics deck dedicated to coffee beans anon. Do you need to ask that question?
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d77049 No.31050
>>27566
The megacorps would never let another thing like Star Trek happen in a million years.
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af4342 No.31161
>>30985
>Janeway's replicator was actually a transporter that didn't make coffee, but just transported it from Deck 12 where several of Neelix's illegitimate children work as slaves growing and preparing the coffee
Seems legit.
Anyway, yes, because if they were growing the beans then the beans were not replicated. It doesn't answer the question, just renders it moot. It's still a gustatory curiosity.
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c4bf1b No.31246
>>27566
The reason why animals have spines is to prevent an even larger animal from swallowing them whole. Did no one else notice how fucking stupid this design is?
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ac2547 No.31256
>>31161
>if they were growing the beans then the beans were not replicated
Could you grow a plant from a replicated seed?
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6e8896 No.31257
>>31246
Most alien designs are stupid and this was drawn by a diversity artist, as you can see by crewmen chocolate besides the thing.
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af4342 No.31264
>>31256
No idea. Seeing how replicated food doesn't even taste like real food, it seems only capable of replicating basic chemical compounds, which DNA is not. One has to assume a replicated seed would be edible but not viable because its DNA would be scrambled.
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147895 No.31279
>>27572
>I fucking hate a subsection of fans who like making the alien races more "animal"-like. It feels like they're completely missing a major point of the franchise and want to make a somehow even shittier version of Star Wars.
This. This so much.
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7ceae7 No.31333
>>27596
>quote from season 1
>screenshot and uniform from first contact
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7d1455 No.31358
>>31333
It's mentally ill, mistakes can't be helped.
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