928136 No.20371 [Last50 Posts]
>Inventor of warp drive
More like a fraud. History is a lied agreed upon. The government already had warp drive. The elite in Star Trek planned WWIII and went underground for a few decades. When the time was right they sent their boy Zefram up to build the warp drive. How else did he get an intact rocket? The proof to prove this is the reactor of the Phoenix. There is no way a post-apocalyptic society can produce a reactor to power a warp drive even in a small craft such as the Phoenix. After Zefram pulled his little stunt the elite came out of their underground bunkers and declared a new era of humanity. From then on the march towards a globalist Masonic government began.
Star Trek First Contact is going predictive programming to tell you the game plan for the 21st century. The world is drowning in debt and the elite always use war as a way of getting out of the mess they create. WWIII is coming and all the major nations are arming up right now.
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8bccec No.20372
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4a3c3f No.20384
>>20371
/strek/'s headcannon is far too logical at times. Enterprise already established Vulcans had not only visted but were living on Earth before the 21st century. Truly we are all slaves of (((Vulcan))) influence.
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49cb8d No.20395
>>20371
>WWIII
It was all a globalist plot.
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928136 No.20397
>>20384
1 Vulcan(The one from Carbon Creek?) does not really qualify as Vulcan subversion IMO. Nice meme though. 1 Vulcan banging a single mom, big threat to Earth!
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3e5449 No.20398
>>20397
>implying one Vulcan couldn't start the fire
>implying a woman getting VULCAN'D isn't how it starts
You sound like a Vulcan agent.
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a243f2 No.20399
All that's well and good but why did he wear that goofy looking hat?
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953a06 No.20400
Khan new the deal and tried to save humanity from it. At least he managed to uplift niggers, if nothing else.
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9f8e30 No.20403
Was WW3 engineered to kill all of the low IQ, and anti-social personality types who conveniently don't seem to exist in Star Trek?
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6526ad No.20404
>>20403
Wiped out the Second Chan coalition paving the way for them.
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79c800 No.20429
>>20404
>Implies that the Fourth Chan coalition was still around
How is this a good timeline?
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49cb8d No.21340
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9a1359 No.21616
>>21340
How much spankings are at Vulcan High Command?
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805a6d No.21659
>>20384
>Implying that Section 31 can't basically control Vulcan politics if they wanted/needed to.
Literally everyone in the Federation now (since, afaik, there's been no development in the timeline since Nemeshits) is the bitch of the Federation, whether they know it or not.
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2b8398 No.21678
>>21659
Well there was development of the Nemeshits Timeline it resulted in JewJewTrek
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8bccec No.21812
let's just forget about this one
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7b14ba No.21926
>>21812
FUCK♂YOU!
That shit was good.
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cad9b1 No.21967
>>21926
>FUCK (male) YOU!
That sounds kinda gay, to be honest.
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97e781 No.22015
Did someone say "take a leak"?
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8fc5fa No.22048
>Syria gets attacked by Trump
>WWIII starts
It seems the elite are starting their First Contact plan. They are probably already in bed with the Vulcans.
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e558de No.22052
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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91b44a No.22181
Section 31 from a worse future where Earth is ruled by another race went back in time to give Earth warp drive to ensure human supremacy, but they couldn't time travel accurately and got there a bit late (post-war). They couldn't risk further incursions on the timeline, so made the best of it.
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a48b7e No.22184
>>22181
Those lazy bastards. If they'd pulled their fingers out they could have set up the Terran Empire a few decades early.
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be3db5 No.22185
>>22048
Vulcans were responsible for the gas attack in Syria you say?
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bb8408 No.24213
>>20429
What about the Seventh and Twelfth? Or the Four-hundred-and-twentieth? Or the German's Kraut Chan? The Finnish Ylilauta Chan?
Were they all lost, brother? Are we truly the last of our time?
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cfbab0 No.24242
>>20371
Why did they have to make Cochrane into a colorful drunk/homeless person, do they think Von Braun got his inspiration at the bottom of a bottle? Real geniuses don't act like that, the show would have been infinitely more popular and realistic if they had made Cochrane an autist.
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39d0f3 No.24246
>>24242
>homeless
It kind of easily helps convey the dire situation humanity was in after WWIII to make Cochrane look like a bum. You should attribute everything else about Cochrane on the fact that the movie was made by normies. Cochrane is their view on how geniuses act and behave.
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d85d3e No.24253
>>24242
>>24246
The thing is, none of his supposed genius is shown. At all. Every one of his accomplishments is an informed ability. A portrayal of a genius as a stumbling drug-addict is okay as long as they also do genius stuff. All Cochrane did was fly the Phoenix (and it's a fucking spaceship, so it basically flew itself) and flick some switches. His biggest on-screen contribution was playing Steppenwolf and ignoring a fault with the second intake valve (or, more probably, a fault with the sensor).
Oh yeah, and he invented the usage of the term "engage", in context with going to Warp. So impressive!
But for all else, he's portrayed as a retard. Checking if the Enterprise crew stuck a paper cutout of the E in front of his telescope; waving off Geordi's questions about the repairs to his OWN FUCKING DESIGN, in such a way that made it obvious he didn't know what the Hell Geordi was talking about; not having any realistic concept of the possibility of alien life. If you ask me, he was simply miscast. Cromwell is a superb actor in type, but he simply can't portray a scientist. No scientist can be a country bumpkin, at least one that is purported to be a revolutionary of nuclear physics. Did the writers seriously think this fucker could have modified an ICBM and manufactured dilithium in his backyard while making moonshine??
Really, this begs for a series about Earth during WW3. It would be SO. FUCKING. GOOD. Cover the Eugenics Wars, the nuclear wars, elaborate on the whole West-vs.-ECON thing; center on Cochrane's entire life and backstory (how DOES one get a university education in a post-apocalypse?) and get into why he's so fucked in the head; then the last season can be about the reconstruction and founding of Starfleet after the Vulcans show up.
The entire series of Trek makes references to this period of time, and some of its best work has been directly tied to it, but it has literally never shown it. Star Wars got a animated series about the Clone Wars; why can't we get a fucking series about the Eugenics Wars…? instead of endless reboots and retcons that everyone thinks is shit. Motherfuckingcockmonglingfaggotniggers; is there at least a novel series about this floating around, that I can pick up??
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39d0f3 No.24256
>>24253
Everything you say is kind of easily dismissed. There is an old steorotype of the eccentric genius scientist who can't tie his own shoes. I think that is what they are going for. Also, the country bumpkin thing is a matter of perspective too. There would have been no city life in the aftermath of WWIII and its only in the last 200 years where the cities have over taken the countryside in Western civilization. Its not a real complaint.
>modify an ICBM
Lily was the engineer and that would have been her responsibility along with tying the shoes while Zefram does the warp drive.
>university education
I still think Zefram came up from the deep underground military bases. You guys realize we are only 65 years from 2063 now? It's not hard to imagine that some boomer could have educated Cochrane inside a deep underground military base.
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cfbab0 No.24263
>>24256
>eccentric genius scientist who can't tie his own shoelaces. I think that is what they are going for
That's not at all what comes across.
He comes across as a very socially capable guy, who can tie his own shoelaces, just not build a warp core.
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412610 No.24269
>>20371
>ever trusting the (((Federation)))'s history at all to begin with
Fucking humans.
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d85d3e No.24272
>>24256
>Lily was the engineer
Except nothing we're shown makes that clear, either. She did literally nothing except carry his drunken ass out of bars and offer encouragement. And whether HE did it or SHE did it, there was nowhere they could have done it. That underground bunker was just the launch controls for the ICBM. No laboratory, no clean room, no centrifuges, no nothing. As I said before, the writing implies that if you're enough of a genius you can tinker with nuclear physics and build spaceships in a garage somewhere. Yes, there could be some place that's not shown where they did that stuff, but it's NOT SHOWN. The movie spends so much time fucking around with the Borg that everything to do with Cochrane and the first warp flight is barely important. There's just too much in the movie; it tries to accomplish too much in too short a runtime.
>You guys realize we are only 65 years from 2063 now
>TFW it's still 1998
>TFW I'm back in eighth-grade
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312c8e No.24287
>>24253
How old was Cochrane during WW3?
I think he's supposed to be 30ish in First Contact but they say he looked older due to "radiation sickness" (good one writers).
I would enjoy seeing a about him starting out as some mathematics prodigy and becoming a professor at a young age, the kind of guy that was ambitious and had a bright future, but then lost all of that because of the war….maybe this led him to alcoholism? Once the world goes full on Mad Max he retreats into some sort of Brotherhood of Steel like organization with his skills being of obvious use to them. We can see Lilly venturing out to retrieve supplies, parts, equipment etc. and trying to keep Cochrane focused and sober as much as possible. The one thing I can't quite figure out is in First Contact he said he wanted to sell warp drive and be rich, who the fuck would he sell to? Nearly all government had become either been annihilated or remained only as destitute rump states and I'm guessing the value of their currency was nonexistent at this point so even if there was somebody to sell warp drive to were they going to pay him in Spam cans, MREs, or bear pelts?
The one possible solution I like is early space colonies. Maybe on Mars, or like the Lunar one depicted in the last season of ENT; if you were trying to preserve some tiny bastion of humanity in space in colonies now cut off from the ruined govs that started them FTL would certainly be a better way to keep them supplied rather than waiting days or months. Maybe they could pay him in crypto currencies and he could buy a yacht and fuck off to Fiji.
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312c8e No.24288
>>24272
> it tries to accomplish too much in too short a runtime.
I'm not sure enough people would want to watch Cochrane on screen for 90 mins working out equations or whatever, but he does have a scientific unit named after him so if he did steal the design or something he did a good enough job convincing everyone that the work was indeed him to grant him with that honor.
>Except nothing we're shown makes that clear
Lily said it took her months to scrounge up enough titanium to build the Phoenix cockpit, that's all we have, but we know she was working on something
>You guys realize we are only 65 years from 2063 now
I pay no attention to this shit. Every now and then Star Trek tries to convince us that they're part of our time line, and in our future. Whatever, at this point I just say call it an alternate universe and stop worrying about the conflict between predicted events that never happened. For example the Eugenics wars was supposed to be in the 1990s and when that obviously didn't happen I read somewhere that it was a covert war that took place between shadow governments out of the public eye–yeah? and they somehow managed to launch a submarine into space without anyone noticing that either? Fuck off. I think there's original TOS material that says we visited mars in 1989 and should have manned missions to Jupiter right now. Rather than changing this stuff to seem less absurd, just call it another timeline.
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d85d3e No.24289
>>24287
>The one thing I can't quite figure out is in First Contact he said he wanted to sell warp drive and be rich, who the fuck would he sell to?
The Eastern Coalition, I suppose. Which maybe he did in the Mirror Universe, which was what kickstarted the whole darker and edgier timeline?
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39d0f3 No.24290
>>24272
For all you know the garage/workshop were the warp drive was built was in a barn 3/4 of a mile to the east of the missile silo. NASA does not fucking build launch vehicles on the launch pad. What you are saying is kind of silly.
>>24288
Alternate timeline is the only correct answer at this point. But for fun you could just imagine the Metal Gear Solid franchise as the Eugenic Wars.
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cfbab0 No.24293
>Lily was the engineer
I'm supposed to believe a creature less evolved than a gorilla was an "engineer"?
I would literally accept that gorillas evolved during Eugenics wars and helped build the warp core over this explanation.
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39d0f3 No.24299
>>24293
>political correctness
Yes you are.
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cfbab0 No.24328
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39d0f3 No.24329
>>24328
You are supposed to believe that Lily is Zefram Cochrane's chief engineer.
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7bda99 No.24332
>>24288
>Lily said it took her months to scrounge up enough titanium to build the Phoenix cockpit, that's all we have, but we know she was working on something
All that tells us is that she did some dumpster diving for parts. It seems like she's just Cochrane's personal assistant/fuckmeat.
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e6a82d No.24333
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e65b74 No.24335
>>24333
Yeah. That is gross.
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39d0f3 No.24339
>>24332
>fuckmeat
Oil drilling really is the thinking man's fetish.
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cfbab0 No.24342
>>24332
>fuckmeat
Fucking gross.
I guess the apocalypse dries up pussy supply real fast.
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d85d3e No.24358
>>24290
And for all you know, Cochrane just shits pure dilithium after drinking that bar's best moonshine, but the point is IF IT'S NOT ON SCREEN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. The first rule of writing is "show, don't tell", but they couldn't even get that far; they couldn't even TELL us about some secret laboratory where they built the most advanced machine humanity has EVER DEVISED. They didn't do jack shit. Just expected us to believe a paranoid drunk and an angry negress built it. Somehow. Someway. Somewhere.
It's fucking bullshit, and you can't pretend that it's not.
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39d0f3 No.24376
>>24358
Everything you wrote is nonsense and such a minor point to quibble about at that.
>muh show don't tell
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d85d3e No.24420
>>24376
It's not a minor point. Cochrane inventing warp drive and being a huge genius and historical figurehead was his entire character. But there was nothing to support that "fact" in the movie.
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cfbab0 No.24427
>>24376
> such a minor point
Warp technology is based on dilithium, nothing else is powerful enough to go to warp except maybe a spinning singularity.
The problem with "Cochrane invented warp" story is how many hundreds of other discoveries would have to be made to get close to inventing warp.
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4e564c No.24433
The movie isn't about the design and engineering of the warp drive, it's about ensuring the maiden voyage happens so first contact can occur. They don't show any of the engineering or go in depth on it, because that's not what the movie is about. The movie is about correcting Borg interference and getting Cochrane's ass in the seat.
Ultimately, it's not even the A plot. The A plot is the Borg taking over the Enterprise. Cochrane and first contact are the B plot.
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f5854e No.24494
Why would an Alpha Centaurian decide to live in post-apocalyptic Montana anyway?
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bb8408 No.24495
>>24494
That's some non-canon bullshit and you know it.
>Implying they even had proper colonies or a way of traversing that distance in a lifetime pre-warp
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39d0f3 No.24496
>>24433
Cochrane was much more interesting than the zombie queen and Picard's revenge.
How long until the homeless are rounded up into camps like in Past Tense? California has been over run. The real 21st century seems to be unfolding too close to Star Trek. It's like they knew in advance.
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312c8e No.24507
>>24496
>How long until the homeless are rounded up into camps like in Past Tense? California has been over run.
6 years according to the show.
Given SF's out of control homeless and drug problem I can see something like this happening but thanks to Star Trek any propositions similar to Sanctuary Districts would probably be called a form of "class segregation" and such laws would never be enacted.
Now that net neutrality is dead who knows, we might just get approved web 'channels' instead of individual web sites you can browse too.
So are you a gimmie or a dim?
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39d0f3 No.24510
>>24507
>>24507
If you see any homeless niggers claiming to be from the future you should probably take them seriously.
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505eca No.24535
>>24507
>Sanctuary Districts would probably be called a form of "class segregation" and such laws would never be enacted.
We have Sanctuary Cities already.
>muh net neutrality
How retarded do you have to be to think that an expansive government agency having control over the internet is anything approaching "neutral?" Especially considering that state bureaucrats are overwhelmingly leftist, something reflected in their actions.
>but muh oligopoly
The FCC and its regulations are almost single-handedly responsible for stifling competition in the telecom sector, giving them more power is a way to make things worse, not better. Also, the correct term is cartel and not oligopoly.
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39d0f3 No.24538
>>24535
>government agency
We already have that and its called the FCC. But what agency will net neutrality create?
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80b3fb No.24541
>>24538
>We already have that and its called the FCC.
That's the point you mongoloid, that using the state's bureaucratic apparatus to maintain (((neutrality))) is a contradiction in terms. The best path towards the internet staying free and unregulated is, surprise surprise, dismantling the agency regulating it and allowing the free market to determine operation.
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39d0f3 No.24542
>>24541
There is no free market. Google tried to offer people 1 gigabit per second fiber and were either blocked at the municipal level or the ISPs quickly rolled out their own fiber. The ISPs must be forced by government fiat at this point to do anything.
>muh free market
KYS.
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312c8e No.24543
>>24535
>We have Sanctuary Cities already.
Sure, but there's a big difference.
A sanctuary district is a designated block or group of city blocks where the homeless, jobless, and destitute are registered than kept of sight from the rest of the people living in the cities.
A sanctuary city is just a city where illegal immigrants can get arrested, but not automatically deported. Present day San Fran is a sanctuary city, but it does not have sanctuary districts because if it did you wouldn't see as many hobos on the streets as you do today. These two concepts just happen to have the word 'sanctuary' in them..
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312c8e No.24544
>>24543
kept out of sight*
In the show I think they were actually walled off.
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80b3fb No.24545
>>24542
So many non-arguments in this post…and all of them circumventing what I said before instead of responding to to it, too. Hmm, how convenient.
> blocked at the municipal level
So government regulations and dock-waving got in the way of business. Please do continue making my points for me, it makes this much easier.
>ISPs quickly rolled out their own fiber
That's called competition, dearie.
KYS leftist.
>>24543
>A sanctuary district is a designated block or group of city blocks where the homeless, jobless, and destitute are registered than kept of sight from the rest of the people living in the cities.
Bit of a shitpost to be honest family, I was implying that San Francisco as a whole is a DESIGNATED dumping ground for assorted degenerates and undesirables that no one else wants to deal with.
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39d0f3 No.24546
>>24545
The reason net neutrality is gone is because if Trump uses anti-trust to go after silicon valley it will blow back on "republican" industries next time the dems get into office. Anti-trust is a cans of worms American business would rather not open.
>competition, ISPs
I don't have gigabit fiber and nobody wants to sell me any either. That is a market failure because we know it is possible because of google.
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d85d3e No.24548
>>24541
>Monopolies, Great Depressions, zero worker rights, government controlled by oligarchs, no industry regulations, no laws preventing boldfaced lies in advertising, no laws banning deadly/carcinogenic chemicals in products, no laws preventing dumping shit into the environment, addictive drugs sold directly to children, and a Jew meme mutilates millions of infants to sell their tissue to skin cream manufacturers
This is just a small sample of the things your "free market" has created. Are you sure you're on the right side of rationality, here?
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39d0f3 No.24673
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3ab1f3 No.24676
>>24546
>The reason net neutrality is gone is because if Trump uses anti-trust to go after silicon valley it will blow back on "republican" industries next time the dems get into office. Anti-trust is a cans of worms American business would rather not open.
This is your brain on leftism, gentlemen.
>That is a market failure because we know it is possible because of google.
For the last goddamn time, the FCC's regulations are almost entirely responsible for creating the telecom cartel by preventing companies from competing with one another.
>>24548
All right, one at a time:
>monopolies
Created and facilitated by the government giving special treatment to one company over another in every instance. For more info see here: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=-VA9VZeox3g
>(Great) Depressions
The business cycle is a product of fiat money, and centralized fractional-reserve banking. More detail can be found here: https://mises-media.s3.amazonaws.com/Economic%20Depressions%20Their%20Cause%20and%20Cure_4.pdf?file=1&type=document
>zero worker rights
You don't say it but I'm assuming this is an appeal to 'muh unions.' Unions have been shown to stifle leisure time and decrease real wages. If you'd like to see what "workers rights" were like before capitalism came along try being a serf subsistence farmer in the Middle Ages. More info can be found:
https://mises.org/wire/no-unions-dont-increase-everyones-wages
https://mises.org/library/markets-not-unions-gave-us-leisure
>government controlled by oligarchs
See section on monopolies. Also, I must point out that if government weren't so large and invasive who controls it wouldn't matter in the slightest.
>no industry regulations
Industry regulations serve to destroy small businesses and stifle competition, as well as slow down growth in general, because they're always tailor-made to hurt large businesses the least.
https://mises.org/wire/how-regulation-protects-established-firms
https://mises.org/wire/our-huge-hidden-tax-government-regulations
>no laws preventing boldfaced lies in advertising
The merchant courts of Great Britain were created and run entirely by private entities, not government, to very successful ends. Further, fraud lawsuits and simple competition nullifies any kind of misinformation in advertising more effectively than your precious advertising ever did.
https://mises.org/library/enterprise-customary-law
>no laws banning deadly/carcinogenic chemicals in products
See points on advertising and regulation.
>no laws preventing dumping shit into the environment
Without government intervention, all of the places that are "dumping grounds" would be private property, and dumping anything on them would clearly be trespassing. But because government laws have demanded that rivers, lakes, and the oceans remain public property this possibility is removed.
> addictive drugs sold directly to children
This is a retarded meme-tier argument and bears no response.
>Jew meme mutilates millions of infants to sell their tissue to skin cream manufacturers
You know why circumcision is so prevalent outside of Judaism? Because the hospital offers to do it for free. You know why they can offer it for free? Government subsidy.
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39d0f3 No.24679
>>24676
You are a moron that thinks it is perfectly fine for companies to dig and build out multiple fiber systems all to preserve your stupid "free market" at all cost ideology. Building fiber to peoples homes is a natural monopoly.
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d85d3e No.24680
>>24676
>After extensive time and effort, I managed to find some websites and youtube videos that support my views!
Am I supposed to be impressed? Big Tobacco found a few doctors willing to say that smoking doesn't cause lung cancer, too, and Trump has found a few climate scientists out of the 3% who believe climate change doesn't exist. It's piss-easy to cherry-pick single entries like that, which is why nobody is going to buy it.
>Because the hospital offers to do it for free
Hospitals don't do ANYTHING for free, you dumb fuck. Especially here in America. How fucking stupid do you think the people here are??
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312c8e No.24744
>>24673
>disputed territories
>China is willing to be glassed for Woody Island
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80b3fb No.24745
>>24679
Are you people selectively illiterate or something? The FCC's own regulations are what have prevented competition in the telecom sector and created the series of monopolies seen within it today.
>>24680
Well, since these "cherry-picked" explanations are so obviously wrong, I'm sure you'll have no trouble reading and debunking them. Why don't you actually take a look at what I posted instead of posturing about it? Who knows, you might even learn something.
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39d0f3 No.24749
>>24745
>FCC's own regulations
Why are you blaming the government when the corporations usually get what they want in terms of regulations? Oh, right
>muh free market and big bad government
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80b3fb No.24750
>>24749
>Why are you blaming the government when the corporations usually get what they want in terms of regulations?
So you can admit that regulations just end up tailor-made to benefit the largest companies, but you still can't see where the government who makes those regs is in the wrong, and continue to insist that that same government can fix the problem with more regulations. Leftism truly is a mental illness.
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d85d3e No.24752
>>24745
One doesn't need evidence to debunk something that conflicts with basic logic. Like debunking flat-Earth and fake-moon-landing and lizard-people-mind-control-rays.
>>24750
There are plenty of examples of what happens when there is no regulations at all, including in that nasty communism. You seem to think that the free market is some kind of free-for-all gladiator arena, when in reality people in power have always made deals with each other. Competition in the marketplace doesn't actually exist. It's piss-easy to simply fix prices in agreement with your neighbor, rather than try to undercut him. That's why everyone does it. That's why you'll never find someone selling $1 gas amid a sea of everyone else at $5.
Aside from that, if there's no government, then what's to stop a powerful company from literally enslaving you? As has been proven since the beginning of civilization, ain't NOTHING maximizes profit more than unpaid labor. Any semblance of a free market basically demands it be done. And what stopped it? Oh yeah, the government.
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6697a8 No.25765
ITT when a /pol/ user thinks back to Star Trek…
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a8d3dd No.25767
>>24752
One doesn't need evidence to debunk something that conflicts with basic logic.
Yep, like communism. It's good to provide arguments all the same however, so I always take care to back my claims up.
>It's piss-easy to simply fix prices in agreement with your neighbor, rather than try to undercut him.
Funny you should mention basic logic, because the Prisoner's Dilemma thought experiment defeats this quite handily. Cartels and similar collusory efforts are inherently unstable, because the moment any one conspirator realizes he's holding himself back for the benefit of his lesser colleagues, and stands to make a massive windfall by breaking the collusion, the whole thing goes belly up. This effect is multiplied by the number of conspirators, so the larger the cartel the more likely it is to collapse. The only cartels that have existed for any reasonable duration (the collegiate football organization comes to mind) only does so because it is being propped up, either directly or indirectly, through bureaucratic fiat.
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6697a8 No.25768
>>24548
>>24548
Look up the history of ideals going into Communism, statrting with 'the Utopia'. It's all a jewish form of government to control the goyim.
Socialism worked /once/,,, Germany.
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6697a8 No.25769
>>24676
>Without government intervention, all of the places that are "dumping grounds" would be private property, and dumping anything on them would clearly be trespassing. But because government laws have demanded that rivers, lakes, and the oceans remain public property this possibility is removed.
Centraly Sicily. It's a ecological disaster that's earning the 'private landowners' money, so the landowners let it happen.
Don't engage with the troll, it's a retarded ancap.
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6864ee No.25771
>>24752
> flat-Earth and fake-moon-landing and lizard-people-mind-control-rays.
Yeah except "lizard people" are actually evolutions of Trodon saurid which escaped the planet before the asteroid hit. They live in deep space colonies now, outside the solar system, and only recently (40kya) started to return and conduct research on earth. They aren't lizards, there's no scales on their skin, in fact males have downy feathers over their penises and females have downy feathers over their vaginas and at the root of their spine. For some reason they remove these feathers, I think it's to better fit into their spacesuits.
The moon landing was faked, in order to cover up an invasion by a species outside our solar system. Our dino friends stopped it, which was quite difficult even though the entire "invasion fleet" consisted of about a dozen ships the size of volvos. Apparently the ships were loaded with self-replicators which would devour raw material and produce entire unmanned robot armies to conquer the planet.
And don't even get me started on flat earth. Let's just say that for some creatures, which exist in higher dimensions, a spherical world might as well be flat. Let's leave it at that yes let's….
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a8d3dd No.25774
>>25769
>Everything I don't agree with is a troll
Hi CNN
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132388 No.25788
>>20403
No, that was the eugenics war I think.
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