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Any weird, ugly or shit starships
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64d68c No.19128
>>12474
>The Red Admiral
You're not kidding.
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32feb3 No.19137
Starship
Has only got one ball!
The other
Is in the Albert Hall
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32feb3 No.19138
>>10341
I really like that design, actually. It's like an office building floating through space.
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e7fd48 No.19142
>>19137
Goddamnit anon
>>19138
They wanted to show the Daedalus Class during Enterprise. Show producers actually wanted the Enterprise to be a Daedalus Class but they got overruled so went for an Akira knockoff
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32feb3 No.19144
>>19142
There's something to be said for ugly hulking monstrosities like that. No reason a Starship should have to be aerodynamic, after all.
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e7fd48 No.19145
>>19144
I think it's the fact it has that primitive look to it like it's been made using reused spacerocket parts. You can tell that they have definitely come a long way.
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32feb3 No.19148
>>19145
It's the utilitarianism of it. The fact that it was built to serve a purpose, not to look pretty.
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bf48c2 No.19334
>>19142
Remind me, why is the crew module supposed to be sphere or saucer shaped? Most of the Fed ship design principles have some justification behind them.
>nacelles have to be offset from the hull with pylons because spacetime distortion
>nacelles have to have a clear line of sight forward because bussard ramscoops
>the crew module and engineering module are separate because you want the warp core as far as possible from everything else
>the crew module has to be spherical or saucer shaped because ???
The only thing I can think of is that it was an outgrowth of some centrifugal artificial gravity system. But even ENT had magic grav plating.
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88deee No.19340
>>19334
In general, it's better for spacecraft to be spherical or cylindrical because sharp corners and edges are much more liable to hull breaches in the even of extreme pressure differential. No I don't think the designers were thinking of this but it werks if you don't think about it too hard.
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062fb8 No.19363
>>19340
Does that mean space dildos would be valid shapes? A fleet of giant benises would be unstoppable?
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88deee No.19367
>>19363
They would, but unfortunately dragon dildos wouldn't. And if you can't have that why even bother?
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35e27e No.19368
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0bf107 No.19369
>>19368
>Voth are dinosaurs
>Dinosaurs inspired Dragons
>Voth ships look like Dildos
Anyone thinking what I'm thinking?
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29924a No.19545
I notice all the ships in Star Trek seem to have the faces of the races in them . Federation ships like the TNG Enterprise have 2 female faces on it one on back with the red glow and eyes noise is the easy one to see. The other is harder but its there with the saucer being it's big alien head.
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d20c10 No.19560
>>19369
Well, I think so, Anon, but if Jimmy cracks corn, and no one cares, why does he keep doing it?
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0069fc No.19593
>>19368
They did that on purpose didn't they?
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17cbd4 No.25156
>>19142
>when the hull of your starship looks like an energy drink can
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17cbd4 No.25157
>>10465
When the fuck did she ever teleport?
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2199e7 No.25158
>>25157
Episode one wasn't a hallucination.
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f05db3 No.25159
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020eca No.25161
>>19137
Heh.png
>>19368
Which part of that ship goes in the pink nebula and which part shocks the brown dwarfstar?
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4a5ecb No.25182
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>>18982
>>18983
>>18984
>>18985
They look like shitty bridge commander fanfic mods.
Fuck, the Kobayashi Maru modpack for that game had better looking meme ships.
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1fc218 No.25190
>>25157
>>25156
>double post - thread doubly-resurrected?
to your point, though, i always felt that the distinctive hull and nacelle ribbing subverts any comparison to bottles and cans and lends it more of an industrial 55-gallon drum look. Had Enterprise been intended to be a darker, grittier series, the producers might have let the creative staff use the design. I'm not a huge fan of grimdark, but if that's what it took, it would have been worth it. They should have pitched a refit later in the series that would replace the sphere with a saucer like pic related. That would have been a good compromise and an canon-friendly evolution of design.
>>25182
I despise all these pointless "sleek" and overly-elongated ship designs that blend the primary and secondary hulls… goes back to Voyager in the early 90's, but that design at least had an in-universe rationale since the ship was designed to enter a planet's atmosphere. These others from the 00's onward just look like stubby tadpoles or spermatozoa.
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77824d No.25282
>>10459
>psychotic sociopathic redhead who considers herself to be the defacto leader in every situation. she thinks she's some kind of genius
Funny thing Janeway is the ONLY ST captain that is reasonable and a great diplomat (more on this later).
All the rest are a screaming bold madman who contradicts himself every time he speaks, Mr. we wuz kangs in space first, a 1960s chauvinist who never engaged in any diplomacy.
The rest are complete disasters.
>she can't figure out how to deal with the kazon or vidiians
Umm what?
1) Shooting them is a way" to deal with them"
2)kazon or vidiians are basically extremely hostile savages in space who can not be negotiated with.
You can equally demand for someone to engage in rational discussion with some Mad MAx warlord.
The warlord wants everything you have and if you don't give it to him he will send his men after you to take all your stuff by force.
I really love for you to explain how to deal with the kazon in your opinion if you are in her position, and don't make the kazon completely OOC.
While SFdebri is funny in making his basement hobo abridged Voyager, like every abridged series the characters are exaggerated or act completely differently, while funny it dose not make for valid criticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRKYLKtpzTo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9ZNMQOnqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPyjew-Ny9w
https://youtu.be/hxdkaAoYkzs?t=3m28s
Now let me show you why Janeway is the best (shown to the audience) diplomat in all of star trek best example:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Prime_Factors_(episode)
Watch this and tell me what Janeway did wrong here, other captains would be shit throwing spasticks at this point and behave like apes.
The episode is completely understandable to the audience.
Aliens have a technology that can transport a great distance.
The crew wants to get home.
This is understandable to the audience (unlike when the writers decide to make something that relies on things the characters know however the audience has no idea what it is all about).
The aliens have their own version of the prime directive that forbids them from giving this technology.
Janeway really behaves like a real diplomat in her actions.
She tries to bergen for this technology
>Can you really not give it to us?
>How about we promise that after reaching our destination we destroy the technology?
Now the crew is on the other side of the prime directive and Janeway points this out respectful to the crew (other captains would be screaming and insane at this point demanding this tech now or screaming insane slogans).
Janeway points out that they already transported 1 of her crew, the question is why not transport their ship.
This is logical and understandable for the audience.
Janeway finds out that the aliens love new stories; basically allusion for the fact that everything in the federation is in the public domain and nothing is copyrighted while the aliens have extensive super copyright. This would be the equivalent of the USA offering every single music peace from its records to some aliens some rich and worth billions intellectual property.
So Janeway uses it to try to soft bribe the aliens, she is nice to the alien leader.
The crew finds out that the alien government has no intentions of ever transporting them so they try to get a black market deal behind Janeway.
Janeway relishes that the aliens will never transport them and aggressively tells them this to the alien leaders face.
This is the only un-diplomatic moment Janeway has here, however I say she is justified (shes not a trained professional diplomat) and its understandable for the audience.
Then the episode concludes like on the wiki.
Can anyone name 1 (ONE) example of any other federation officer behaving like she in this episode or better? This is the best diplomacy an logical behavior of any federation captain.
The only counter to this I have seen is:
>LOL the episode is gay and boring LEL
And this is not a argument you want to show why she is supposed to be the worst or the most psychotic then show it. Because at this point she is the best and most consistent diplomatic character of all the captains.
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b2ce7f No.25301
>>25190
You have given me the urge for pre-Federation, NASA-style trusses-and-modules starships.
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03820a No.25302
>>25301
yup. this is what a CGI-heavy Star Trek prequel should have been… not the Enterprise we got. I can see how people would have thought the aesthetic would make for a boring Star Trek series, but not if it was a grittier and edgier. Now "darker" shit is played-out, but not in the late 00's around when BSG happened…
As soon as the producers over-ruled all the original design pitches and demanded they use the Akira-class design, they should have just rebelled and insisted the show be set post-Voyager.
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9ea0de No.25303
>>25302
I wouldn't say "boring" they were just trying to cater to the normies. Every Enterpise has been a disc and two shcholngs. A single schlong with two saturn rings would have caused confusion, panic, and chaos.
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22d173 No.25305
>>25282
If Janeway had transported Voyager 40,000 light-years nearer to home, she would have never freed Seven of Nine and would have never defeated species 8472.
So basically the galaxy would be fucked without Janeway making that decision.
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c20c34 No.25309
>>25305
Legends say that 8472 only mobilized because after witnessing Janeway's psychosis, they realized there was no possibility of coexisting with the non-fluidics.
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99549f No.25333
>>10365
Only thing I never got about Voyager is why the nacelles moved up and down whenever they went in and out of warp speed. Up until that point, federation starships had done just fine without foldable nacelles.
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d36e59 No.25335
>>25302
>>25303
They actually wanted to make it the Daedalus Class but were overruled by the Studio who wanted a more Connie knockoff but they didn't want to do that so they settled on an upside down Akira which actually for all purposes wasn't intentional.
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9ea0de No.25341
>>25335
Daudalus would have worked. I like the giant golfball myself. Still overall the design in Enterprise was brilliantly done making things look as if they were developing from modern to the TOS era. I don't think ST fans give it the appreciation it deserves. Daudalus also wouldn't have looked very cool in space battles. It's not a sleek design, but if I was in charge I'd had gone with it and made the show less fantasy adventure and more harder sci fi like what birthed ST to begin with.
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d36e59 No.25350
>>25341
There's a lot of things they wanted to do as well. Like no viewscreen until a later season. Make combat more of a submarine vibe going for it like Balance of Terror.
It is a shame that Enterprise only got it's shit together too late cause Season 4 was relatively good and everything setup for Seasons 5+ looked like it was going to be nice.
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622911 No.25372
>>25350
was absolutely no transporters one of their original goals? Because it felt really off and uneven that they had god damn matter to energy teleporters already, yet no force-fields, tractor beams, or quick decontamination processes yet
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a155a6 No.25373
>>25372
>was absolutely no transporters one of their original goals?
IIRC it was, except they used it in the damn pilot. The whole "no transporter" thing got rrally cheapend when, as the show went on, the aversion to the transporter disappeared and they started using it like they did before: "buwh what abuh da transporder?" - "<Insert excuse here>".
>Because it felt really off and uneven that they had god damn matter to energy teleporters already, yet no force-fields, tractor beams, or quick decontamination processes yet
I kinda got it: taking apart molecules and sending it as in a directed stream using a (giant fucking) laser pointer. Basically an IP datastream, each molecule is packed with a checksum and a sequence number.
Wherever the giant fucking laser pointer was pointed, the molecules reassemble around. The giant fucking laser pointer reads a feedback and it reads back the checksum that reassembled.
Before the buffer in the ship purges whatever was transported, it resynthezises and resends some molecules (but it can't do everything again without what actually got scrambled, which is how they sometimes lose people or things as they can't completely synthesize everyone of their molecules from scratch).
But what about beaming up? I don't know, turns into a laser pointer vacuum or something, haven't figured that out. I'm just theorizing it could be an extension and superevolution from a version of a tech we do have instead of some scifi magic.
Meanwhile the tractor beam, shields, and forcefields are, as of todays tech, still a scifi magic.
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af7db0 No.25436
>>10341
The Daedalus class was perfect for what it was intended to be. A big ship with a lot of space. I'll bet that big ugly fat fuck has at least two dozen high capacity transporter rooms and enough shuttle space to cram in a dozen runabouts. Perfect for crisis situations where you've gotta evac a lot of sick people. That 750 crew complement probably leaves a lot of free space until the casualties start rolling in.
She's a desert fox. Ugly as fuck until you're desperate.
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496369 No.25703
>>25436
That's not a fucking Daedalus anon. It's an Olympic Class.
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30134a No.26010
>>18982
they look like shitty STOL designs
>>19142
>Daedalus-class Enterprise
That would've made sense and been comfy af
>>19368
Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that.
>>19593
Probably.
>>25190
Agreed, Voyager and I think Defiant made some sense but everything else from the Ambassador-class era onward feels too much like a piece of art than a functional, symmetrical piece of hardware that looks as good as art. Voyager I'm biased towards because it doesn't have the vulnerable neck like most other two-hulled ships do.
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35f4b7 No.26011
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3e5dee No.26034
>>25372
>was absolutely no transporters one of their original goals? Because it felt really off and uneven that they had god damn matter to energy teleporters already, yet no force-fields, tractor beams, or quick decontamination processes yet
I hesitate to bring That Show On Fox into the discussion, but at least the writers over there have (thus far) firmly stuck with the "absolutely no transporters for the heroes" rule. It's a smart story decision.
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8ea8d8 No.26035
>>26034
>I hesitate to bring That Show On Fox
Why? It's without a doubt the best /strek/-related media in recent history edged out only perhaps by the swoleverse, leagues ahead of STD, JJTrek, or that crowdfunded Renegades thing. It also funnily enough has more Trek veterans involved in its production than any of the "official" shit too. And MacFarlane himself, for all his flaws, is a genuine fan of Trek and you can see that he put his heart and soul into the series, which is more than can be said for STD or JJtrek.
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3e5dee No.26037
>>26035
I'm a newfag here, and wasn't sure what the prevailing opinion here on Orville was. I'm thankful that it seems to be a grounded-in-reality, can-recognize-quality one. There's a lot of various trek forums where even mentioning the show results in instaban.
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8ea8d8 No.26040
>>26037
Most of those are the same ones who jerkoff STD. They're just jealous that a fan-made parody manages to stand head-and-shoulders above their shitty BLACKED mary sue, and rather than deal with their insecurity they choose to pretend it doesn't exist.
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25af0f No.26046
>>26034
but they did unfortunately add holodecks and replicators, even though the first episode was about a device built to increase agriculture and food supplies
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8ea8d8 No.26063
>>26046
At least the holodeck seems to be nothing more than an entertainment device, as opposed to a semisentient Lovecrafitan horror that turns off its safety mechanisms at the exact wrong moment.
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17cbd4 No.26068
>>10267
If I saw this piece of shit I would torpedo it so hard.
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f08ff8 No.26070
>>26068
I can't tell if you're saying you want to fuck it or destroy it. Both?
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882c26 No.26128
>>26040
Hahahahahaha the funny thing is Elon Musk is right wing now and hates STD.
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f08ff8 No.26130
>>26128
>right wing
That's pushing it tbh. More likely he's an opportunist.
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882c26 No.26148
>>26130
It's p-hard not to be right wing today.
I was far left socialist until 2008, and voted for Obama. The disillusionment that followed turned me into a fucking Nazi, now I want to exterminate all the Juice.
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