No.14754
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No.14755
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No.14756
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:c19bfe4a448823919fc515a1d7155891c5655ab3&dn=samizdat%5Fslatestarcodex%5F2020%5F06%5F01.tar.xz
Archive ends on the Jaynes review. The blog is licensed CC-BY so it's totally legal™.
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No.14759
The New York Times will publish the article about SSC in 2020 - 75%
Scott's real surname will be in the New York Times article if published - 65%
Scott will lose or have to quit his job in 2020 - 20% if the article is published, 1% otherwise
Scott will be stalked or threatened in person as a result of the article if it is published - 5%
SSC will become available again for at least a week in 2020 - 95%
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No.14761
This is really disappointing, I'm seriously considering cancelling my NYT subscription now. Hahaha, imagine actually being subscribed to the NYT!
It was really nice seeing the reaction to this across twitter, everybody who's anybody was supporting Scott. This looks like it's playing out a lot better for him that I expected this morning when I found out about this, at that time I expected the NYT article to be a complete hatchet job (on the level of that book that claimed that Big Yud was an NRx alt-right gamergater, but unlike the book this article would actually be read by some people), causing all sorts of personal issues for him. Now I expect the NYT to soften the article quite a bit, refrain from calling him a HBD phrenologist and likely not even post his full name. After that article gets posted you'll see some people disingenuously going "Why did everybody freak out like that? The article turned out to be pretty even-handed after all. You nerds have a persecution complex!"
I think Scott played this out as well as possible, the absolute madman just might pull it off. Even if it doesn't work out for him, his recent actions likely mitigated the damage he'll end up taking to a significant extent.
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No.14762
>>14761
> I think Scott played this out as well as possible, the absolute madman just might pull it off. Even if it doesn't work out for him, his recent actions likely mitigated the damage he'll end up taking to a significant extent.
disagreed: scott fucked up.
> " The appropriate comments section is the feedback page of the New York Times. You may also want to email the New York Times technology editor Pui-Wing Tam at pui-wing.tam@nytimes.com, contact her on Twitter at @puiwingtam, or phone the New York Times at 844-NYTNEWS."
that's how you get "a certain amount of insane “YOU COMMUNIST MOTHERFUCKERS WILL PAY FOR YOUR CRIMES AGAINST FREE INQUIRY ON THE DAY OF THE ROPE” emails" sent to the listed address., despite all the despite all the "(please be polite – I don’t know if Ms. Tam was personally involved in this decision, and whoever is stuck answering feedback forms definitely wasn’t. Remember that you are representing me and the SSC community, and I will be very sad if you are a jerk to anybody. Please just explain the situation and ask them to stop doxxing random bloggers for clicks. If you are some sort of important tech person who the New York Times technology section might want to maintain good relations with, mention that.)" you might put up.
what with the feeding frenzy of trads going OGOD WE FINALLY GET TO RECRUIT SCOTT ALEXANDER THANK YOU LORD
because of course, who would ever possibly be imagined to refuse becoming a useful idiot for the Tribe 1 that's nominally against the Tribe 2 that tries to hurt you, no matter how much you hate Tribe 1 and everything they stand for, right :3
but even if scott goes all "no you tards i'm not one of you, never was, never will", The Left will never get the message, because ALL the articles defending scott and ssc are from conservative sources. (of the less-retarded sort, admittedly).
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No.14763
>>14762
forgot to add: the DAY OF THE ROPE emails might be sent from any Tribal Side. could as well be leftists doing a false flag, rightists being braindead zombies, grey-tribers being mindkilled into a rage, or just politically unaligned trolls.
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No.14764
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No.14765
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No.14767
>>14762
I disagree. Any hate mail sent to the New York Times (legitimate or false flag) will only be read by the New York Times. I doubt it will affect what kind of article they end up writing, they are not going to go from a positive piece to a hit piece only because they got unpleasant messages from anonymous commenters, nor the reverse if the commenters are nice.
By claiming if he had no problem with the article in general being written, but only making the extremely reasonable request that they use his pseudonym and not his full name, and raising the stakes by deleting his blog, he's putting the NYT in a tough spot. If they publish the article and include his full name they would have written an article about a blog that no longer exists (removing much of the reason to publish that article in the first place) and which no longer exists precisely because of their actions. It ties them up, they either have to go all in denouncing it (and proudly own having pushed him to take it down) or they have to give in to the deluge of support for him (the public one, the tweets and articles, not the emails), apologize for having refused to use his pseudonym (probably in a "ha ha, we didn't know it was such a big deal, sure we won't use your full name" manner) and write a much milder article.
It removes the "neutral" "middle ground" they were probably going to go for, the "this is a pretty good blog, shame about all the white supremacist pseudoscience and incel MRA stuff in it, though" that would have got him in just as much trouble.
>>14765
>wow, not even the sneerers support doxing him, I guess they aren't that bad after all
They would get banned from reddit if they did. Stop trying to find common ground with them, there isn't any.
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No.14768
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No.14769
>>14767
>Stop trying to find common ground with them, there isn't any.
I just thought it was interesting, I didn't mean to imply any particular interpretation.
The rant makes it clear enough that there are people there who want Scott doxed. Heck, the person who submitted the post doesn't think the NYT is in the wrong.
This sentence is alien in a very fascinating way:
>May I also remind you that even flippant jokes about how you’re happy with such a turn of events explicitly contradict frequent and loud statements from the mods that SneerClub is not in favour of doxxing.
It's taken for granted that the opinions of the moderators represent the opinions of the community, and that the community would want to follow the opinions of the moderators. That's weird! I wonder how normal that is on Reddit.
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No.14770
>>14768
I think it's best not to have it posted here.
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No.14771
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No.14772
>>14769
>It's taken for granted that the opinions of the moderators represent the opinions of the community, and that the community would want to follow the opinions of the moderators. That's weird! I wonder how normal that is on Reddit.
In part that's because from the outside it's difficult to distinguish a few members of the community from the majority of the community or the moderating team of the subreddit or the subreddit as a whole. So somebody could go there, see a couple of people saying doxing is good and assume the whole subreddit thinks that while they are trying really hard to pretend they don't.
They could claim that a few posters don't represent the whole subreddit and that it is unfair to judge them all based on the opinions of a minority, but that would look rather odd since they constantly attack rats as a whole because of the opinions of a few commenters.
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No.14773
>>14769
>I just thought it was interesting, I didn't mean to imply any particular interpretation.
BTW, I'm sorry for assuming you did, I'd already seen a few people explicitly saying that and I was pretty annoyed by their naivety.
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No.14774
Time to start a pointedly unrelated blog under a new identity in Scott's style.
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No.14775
>>14768
Nick "Turnstile" Yarvin.
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No.14776
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No.14790
Dude is a literal jewish supremacist. He has a long blog post laying out a (questionable) theory that his race is literally genetically superior to all other races.
I don't need to tell you what would happen to me if I did the same thing. I would certainly not get positive articles from mainstream publications. Hell Scott himself bans people for talking about anything close to that.
There are two possibilities. Either the NYT isn't hypocritical. And they actually were going to do a hit piece on him . And Scott was incredibly naive for even talking to them.
Or they were actually not going to do a hit piece. In which case fuck Scott, he deserves one.
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No.14791
>>14790
>In which case fuck Scott, he deserves one.
Scott deserves a hit piece for not wanting to have his real name revealed in a non-hit piece?
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No.14794
https://blog.jim.com/uncategorized/i-told-scott-alexander/
>I told him, your friends are your enemies, and your enemies are your friends.
>A few hours ago, he shut down his blog, Slate Star Codex, because the New York Times came after him.
>Every year I have lived, it has been getting crazier, faster and faster. If Trump fails to become Caesar Augustus, Scott Alexander will not very long afterwards be killed by those he regards as his friends, unless rescued by those he regards as his enemies. Reflect on Venezuela. It started in Venezuela with pulling down statues, renaming streets, and revising the curriculum. And pretty soon they were revising the people.
>He neglects to name the reporter: “(out of respect for his concerns, I am avoiding giving his name here.)”
>Come on Scott. Everyone who works for the New York Times is evil, and you cannot appease them, because they hate everyone, including themselves. Being nice to reporters just gives them more opportunity and incentive to hurt people, starting with whoever is being nice to them. You should have encouraged and enabled your readers to take vengeance, not to maximize utility by protecting the next hundred people this reporter will destroy, but because vengeance is the right thing to do, when authority will not provide justice.
>Scott, when a crazy fat woman in your circle of friends started accusing people in your circle of sexual harassment and sexual assault, what did you and your friends do about it? How did being politically correct on that turn out for you and for her? And do friends who respond in that way qualify as friends?
>Scott is a smart guy, and a good writer. If he starts blogging with stronger anonymity, using a domain name purchased with bitcoin laundered through Monaro on a cloud computer similarly paid for, he might he able to be more wary about his “friends”, and less hateful to his “enemies”.
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No.14799
>>14791
>say whites have higher IQ/etc
>get life ruined
>say jews have higher IQ/etc
>no one cares
I don't hate jews I'm just mad at the inconsistency.
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No.14804
>>14799
How many lives did Scott ruin for saying whites have higher IQ/etc?
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No.14805
>>14799
>I don't hate jews
That's why the inconsistency exists.
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No.14815
>>14794
>If Trump fails to become Caesar Augustus, Scott Alexander will not very long afterwards be killed by those he regards as his friends, unless rescued by those he regards as his enemies.
How long is not very long? When Trump is out of his chair and a Democrat president replaces him the probability of a violent revolution will go down temporarily. Moldbug has been more or less saying this on podcasts.
Does Scott have Antifa friends? If Scott is killed in a cultural revolution, it will be by Antifa and militant SJ people who he recognizes are not his friends. His liberal lefty friends will get the bullet, too.
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No.14837
Hasn't this blown over yet? When is the blog coming back? What should I be reading in the meantime?
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No.14849
>>14837
Scott is gradually leaving his employer and changing his style of working. The blog is moving to Substack.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/09/11/update-on-my-situation/
I'm a bit wary of Substack, especially given how Medium keeps getting worse. I hope he keeps the ability to exit at will.
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No.14851
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