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429cb7  No.115982[Last 50 Posts]

POST-KNEE WEIMAR AMERICA PLAN

[TABLE OF CONTENTS] draft

0. Introduction

1. Location

a. State

b. District and County

c. Obligation to Homestead

2. Law

a. Income Tax

b. Legal Status

3. Politics

a. What Does Not Work

b. The Plan

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Introduction

In this I intend to draft a plan of action for whites in America to use, especially if they do not have a plan of action or theirs is inadequate. In this plan I will outline which states to move to, which to leave, and which sit closer to center but are still leaning one way or the other. Next I'll give a quick bit of advice on choosing a district and city. In the end I will speak on the homestead and one's obligation to build one rather than be reliant on infrastructure created by others.

Second I will outline the legal battle. Income tax (federal) doesn't have to be payed, which is easiest to succeed in amongst the legal battles. Next involves improving one's legal standing in order to upgrade one's land deed to a land patent, to be exempt from property taxes and obtain greater freedoms on one's own land. Other legal avenues will be surveyed.

Lastly I will outline the political; what does not work, and the plan to influence the politics of your state, then the outlook for influencing the nation.

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Location

States

Attached is map of states, color coded with BLACK being WORST, GREY being SHIT, GREEN being GOOD, and WHITE being RIGHT.

Input from those from these states is appreciated, as there are likely inaccuracies and I am not an expert.

The South East is quite BLACK, literally. The East coast is quite radical, black, and the whites there are absolutely clueless. Virginia is generally an exception, but still GREY, West Virginia moreso to the point of being GREEN. The North East beyond New York isn't too bad but the whites there are rich and clueless. As you can see by the second map, it is quite unpopulated and has expansive forests which may attract some of you to it, but it is still Blue Blue Blue last I checked.

The Great Lakes attract quite the rich blue variety of white, and so they are often clueless as well, but there are more PoCs here. It is my belief that bodies of water attract liberals and makes people too emotional, so I have labeled them BLACK, but they may be GREY and influencing their politics and demographics could be feasible, but the tourism to these Great Lake locations prevents this as $$$ is quite the incentive to live and speak Blue. Also, Canadians. Illionois, Minnesota and Indiana are less affected in this way as far as I know, but someone who lives there or has been there should confirm/deny this.

North Dakota is just too Canadian.

Nevada of course has THE city of Sin, Las Vegas (God Bless Us). They also have plenty of PoC and border Commiefornia. They are BLACK as a result. Some may argue they are GREY though.

California, Oregon and Washington are obviously BLACK. Don't even try.

Colorado has been turned GREY by DUDE WEED LOL (not GREEN), too liberal and stoned to not be communist/socialists. Arizona and New Mexico are GREY, the border is always risky as too many Mexicans influence politics, communities, and attract brain washed politicians. Perhaps one of these states are GREEN but I will require your input, anon(s). Perhaps the heat pacifies Whites as well.

Texas is redpilled. Degeneracy can be dealt with. Legally and politically I'm sure it's somewhat easy to get shit done there but the PoC is pervasive and even dangerous to anyone that moves there. As well, I hear there is quite the degeneracy from whites there. Oklahoma is somewhat like Texas but while there is PoC there, the whites are apathetic unlike Texas. They are almost GREEN. Careful. The politics aren't too bad but the Oil Interests taking that Indian Reserve over long ago often creates lib tears. Arkansas is too South East, too much ex-plantation land to be safe.

The rest of the GREEN requires your input, but it is safe as far as I know.

The WHITE states are known to be a grade above the rest, putting white interests first. They are more logical and resilient against PoC and lib tears. Their laws are fairer as far as I know, too.

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429cb7  No.115988

>>115982

District and County

In WHITE states: The plan is to choose either a blue county bordering a red county, and live in the red county next to or the blue county itself, near the border between blue and red. In this way one may change the demographics of this ulcer and cancer, as well as push back against the poz directly on the individual level. Talk to others and sway them with abstract logic and reasoning, science, pathos and ethos (your character). Act as if your views are perfectly natural and common, well-established fact. The point is that with liberals everything is a slippery slope, so be conservative - convey principles. This is after you establish yourself legally and financially though. Look for likeminded people before you try to turn minds. Use actual history, buy actual books rather than e-books (no one will read an e-book you share with them unless they already believe you).

If you win some legal battle it may attract more red as well. You should be homesteading so it should be cheap to buy land, so any money sunk in a blue county may not be too much of a loss either which way. Your choice whether you go red or blue here, but stay near the border.

Obligation to Homestead

Power generation is easy. Very easy. Don't stay in clearnet channels on this one. Collecting water shouldn't be an issue either, and you can look up for free where the water table is if you dig a well, collecting and filtering rain water is easy. If you buy land with clay you can literally spin a generator with a bicycle that powers an electric oven/kiln to create clay bricks. Otherwise you can just start a fire in a clay oven dug around a pit. You then stack bricks. You then have a home, especially if you use a clay arch using the ole mason keystone for the roof. You use clay as the adhesive between clay bricks. Or you can buy an aluminum shed and stack up dirt and perhaps get old tires from a junk lot, all to create insulation around the shed.

Point is, it's easy to get started for cheap, and there is every number of options for you if you have money. You can buy a shipping container to live in and get power and water built into it by some contractor. You can live in a trailor. You can do all of the above and have a mini village of buildings for different purposes. The point is you get to the state and be self-reliant. Being reliant on the state is not white, and it is not a good feeling to any self-respecting man knowing you need the State. And if saboteurs strike the power or water? You'll be fine. You could help others even.

If you do all this, think of the example you set and how you can build relationships with others. You can help others that want to move to the state, or help those that already live there.

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c5d656  No.116002

>>115982

>Texas is redpilled.

Oh you sweet summer child. You fell for the memes.

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27cf57  No.116004

>>116002

How bad is it?

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c5d656  No.116009

>>116004

Houston and Austin are literal BLM headquarters, San Antonio is 60% spic and DFW is homo-heaven. Out west is empty desert and the panhandle is trailer trash. Yeah, a bunch of them might vote Republican, but Texas is basically Libertarian with a sprinkling of Bush-tier GOP. It could swing Democrat extremely easily.

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27cf57  No.116018

File: 58b47ce3cf49604⋯.pdf (3.62 MB, Neal_Boortz_John_Linder_Th….pdf)

>>115982

Legal

1215.org

https://1215.org/lawnotes/reference.htm [IMPORTANT]

This website is a bastion of light in a sea of darkness. There are many real cases cited, it doesn't misinterpreted law with "I'm a sovereign citizen!" bullshit, it's actionable stuff, and it's worked for the guy and others. There's many resources and it takes you through everything step by step as a full blown course in representing yourself legally, and getting all this 'fringe' legal stuff DONE.

Income Tax

https://invidio.us/watch?v=1UCcW0RoNdc

https://invidio.us/watch?v=XhiVSPyRJoE

[books attached]

Federal tax isn't lawful. There is no law that states one must pay taxes to the federal government. It just isn't on the books, it doesn't exist. Throwing the tea in the harbor in Boston was a response to unreasonable taxation, may I remind you. There isn't much more to say here.

Legal Status

This is a general section for further legal rights/liberties. If you go through 1215.org there are certain legal redefinitions of your person that you can win in order to obtain greater power and freedoms. Some of it is experimental though so even if you win it might be challenged and revoked, but some of it is quite solid. It's important that this stuff be challenged though, so that if you win you secure it's foundations and if you lose, we can coordinate with these 'alt-legal' experts to reverse that decision and then secure the foundations, or now where to fight for a legal change in the system. It's not as if you are at risk for fighting to get an alloidal land title (land patent), or whatever else. It just requires your time and presence.

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2d0797  No.116019

>>116018

more tax evasion scam shilling?

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27cf57  No.116020

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27cf57  No.116021

>>116019

Prove it.

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27cf57  No.116023

>>116019

Tt's federal income tax, not state or local.

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910f3d  No.116064

>>116009

>he panhandle is trailer trash

and?

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c66a7f  No.116107

I endorse this thread and white flight. People act like it is a bad thing, but eventually we will be able to gain control over a state or two if whites, especially nationalists, moved in mass there. Montana Wyoming and Idaho seem like good picks. Once we are together, in will become easier to organize politically.

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79336c  No.116140

>>115982

why are all the white states in the direct blast radius of yellowstone

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2b6f26  No.116141

>>116018

I don't know why I said it's not on the books, but there's a specific procedure to get out of paying taxes, as with achieving any other legal objectives, and I will go into more detail on this specifically once my internet stops getting interfered with (or just fucking up) and my research is expedited.

Once again, I wanted to start with getting the thread started so people could contribute what they know about their state or state's they've lived in or visited.

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2b6f26  No.116149

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>>116140

Hm. True. I have updated the map to reflect new information.

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bd2dac  No.116159

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>>116149

Added a buffer zone and color coded correctly. Need some intel on South Dakota and Nebraska to determine if they are potentially WHITE.

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d93187  No.116190

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>>116159

And factoring in the entire potential ash zone, I'll bring everything on the periphery of it down one level. Well done anon.

Now looking at the 2016 election, a number of states have been reconsidered and the reliability of the random anon talking about Texas having been questioned, I have changed some State statuses.

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33fce3  No.116230

Running away from centres of power and influence and ceding ground only prolongs the inevitable.

Domination/Empire/Imperium > balkanization/ethnostates

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4fab2b  No.116246

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>>116230

Okay.

The plan is to have basically intelligent whites flee to these places, gain legal practice and practice influencing those around them as well as homesteading (self-reliance on a day -to -day visceral level) and then a plan-after that entails moving to GRAY states or GRAY/BLACK areas within a GREEN/WHITE state/area.

I think it's quite good.

Alaska updated to reflect how isolated and is basically as you criticize. Was going to change it for the reason you exclaim anyway, as I agree with you.

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7b2af4  No.116253

>>115982

canada will collapse right before america does, and summer is the best time to homestead in canada. White non-combatants (women and men below the age of 16 and above the age of 50) should be evacuated to BC and the plains provinces and the fighting men or combat pacifists should alternate staying with them and rotating to America where the fight for political supremacy will be the hottest. (by combat pacifists I mean signal specialists, doctors, couriers, or other positions generally held by those whose disposition is bad for a fighting man but whose will and physique is good, likely the majority of anons that don't die in the next few months will be this)

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7b2af4  No.116257

>>116253

to continue my rant about canada, I believe the majority of canadian nonwhites will evacuate by the same channels they entered by. They are already doing so in the case of east asians, but I believe the african canadians will similarly flee once they realize whats going on. oh also the cascade mountain range in washington and oregon is already pockmarked with white nationalist homesteaders, this will be a very hot range.

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fa5687  No.116268

>>116257

All Africans i've ever talked to or had the displeasure of being around always talk about going to the US. Nashville, specifically.

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4fab2b  No.116273

>>116253

As OP, I really don't believe Canada or the US will collapse. I believe outside pressures will try and make Canada and the US collapse but the only result will be some temporary balkanization if anything. Idaho, Montana and Wyoming are good places to hole up if that's what people want to do, and wild mountainous regions are good.

>>116257

I doubt that.

>>116268

Oddly specific.

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c66a7f  No.116378

>>116273

I'm interested, what lines do you see us balkanizing along? Theoretical borders? I'm excited for this to actually happen.

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33fce3  No.116407

>>116378

Balkanization is retarded, it was retarded for the nations it's named after, it was retarded for the Middle East who only helped Israel control them and expand its borders, and it's still retarded now.

How are we still having these conversations? How do self-identifying 'nationalists' still not understand this? Balkanization is antithetical to our ideas. If the already geopolitically falling US balkanizes, epsecially while Israel or China or Russia *aren't*, all it will do is futher open itself up to foreign infiltration, occupation and subversion. Why would you want to cede ground, concentrate all whites into specific areas, metaphorically running away to the corners of the land, and then expect the same people that want you dead to grant you states, ethno- or otherwise??

STOP running away - expand and DOMINATE.

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c66a7f  No.116411

>>116407

Of course it's not ideal, but it would at least be entertaining. A balkanized America would be only temporary I'm sure. At this point at least.

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5b9166  No.116420

>>116407

What do you think about refederalizing with a mid-step in between state and federal government, representing regional government? All the regulatory shit can be moved to the regional governments, who are in a better position to say what measures are required or not for their situation. The military would still be federal, the federal government would still be in charge of international diplomacy, but practically everything else that can be moved to the state or regional level is moved. I think this would solve the problem of an overbearing federal government without precipitating a collapse in state viability

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c038ea  No.116527

The Great Lakes region is pretty normal outside of the cities and is far enough from yellowstone to not get completely wrecked. Also, less chance of getting nuked, the fresh water supply is too important whereas I could see bombs falling in the pacific NW if some sort of enclave popped up there. Just my thoughts

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2af3a8  No.116528

>>116527

This guy is thinking really well. Also question. If the chinks really wanted to fuck shit up or anyone that wants to nuke USA for that matter wouldn't they just throw a nuke at Yellowstone ? Would that make it go boom ? ( i am not a geologist )

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349721  No.116562

>>116273

Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming seem great, I think only two problems exist, one being the super volcano, and the other being heavy influence from liberal pacific northwest.

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349721  No.116565

>>116528

This, we need to plant spies in asian countries and wiretap them. Also we need to focus on redpilling Alaska, given that it is protected from ash by the cascades and rocky mountains. I think if a nuke were sent to yellowstone, it might blow up, but most likely nothing would happen as the energy would be in the air and not on the ground, and the volcano would be sealed so it wouldn't erupt unless the chinks figured out how to place a nuke that would go underground, though this would even be likely to fail.

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349721  No.116572

>>116230

This, but places like Alaska's southeast have a very similar climate to northwest Europe. It may be an upgrade from places like new england where the climate is similar to japan. If we centered our population on places with similar climates to europe, then our populations would be more productive as there would be less need for cooling in the summer or heating in the winter. Also, if we move en mass to places like Europe, it may be even better as we would be able to take back the land rather than run away to a colony as whites have been doing for so long.

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106882  No.116841

>>116407

The idea isn't to force balkanization retard. Jesus fucking christ. A few thousand moving to better lands won't destroy the US. Tens of thousands won't either. Only a few hundred frequent this cite and moving is a big deal for most people, and clearly not everyone agrees with the plan, but getting hundreds to these areas is smart as fuck. Thousands is the goal though.

>>116378

The idea is that we have 'strongholds', strong arming against anyone that tries to 'invade' (migrate) that is PoC and antithetical to what we believe in. We amplify our point of view (most appropriate and digestible is loudest, less digestible requires some 1 on 1 and network building with shit to back it up), we gain land and legal status, and we push for certain changes that change how people think and behave to better fit what we're aiming for.

>>116420

Funnily enough, the actually balkanized state of the US has kept it from going all out war (the 50 states). Consolidating power would embolden regions to separate from the other regions politically. So that is a terrible idea, and that screeching anon above is retarded. The issues generally involve a lack of demographic control though. If we can control demographics without expelling them (as that would lead to full collapse across the country from TRUE balkanization), then we can create these stronghold states that anyone's family can live in, and venture into GREEN and GREY and even BLACK territories but as groups formed in the WHITE states. Good plan yeah? It's a temporary regrouping of sorts, great for networking, great for families and housing our possessions, great legally (we need to push here), just great overall. >>116407 So essentially he isn't wrong.

>>116527

Are they politically and legally cucked? Great resource, what with water access to the ocean, and the lakes themselves, but they might be cucked hard.

>>116562

They're rather red places, white nationalists in the area. There are 2 blue counties in all of Idaho and I haven't checked Montana in a while but it should be similar. Stopping the flood of Blue (BLACK) is important though and this requires people pushing back.

Don't get trapped in the sensationalist cycle. Common trick. It stops all build up being in visceral fight mode all the time - we need to win demographic and legal battles. If shit hits the fans it's in 30 years. You might not agree but even if it's in 10 years we need at least tens of anons to become legally competent and fight legal battles, for themselves and then others. The plan for hundreds though, ( tens of thousands if this plan lifts off the ground and leaves this site) is to strongarm the local governments of the WHITE states to BAN the migration of non-whites on the city, then county then state level. We want to establish that we can stop a person from moving into a region on any criteria we wish; I doubt we can stop people from visiting, legally, and that would make people too hostile towards local PoCs that we could never 'get away with it'.

>>116572

Europe is a clusterfuck cucked by the EU. No one here is familiar with their demographics or history of socio-political actions and behaviors so it would incredibly unwise to do so. America is fucking HUGE in every sense and we can't abandon it. That would be ridiculous.

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ee067a  No.116963

>>116841

If we can get these states to limit cross-state traffic, no public transport, that would be enough (OP here responding to own post). That would be ENOUGH. Then we can get people to try and push things further as I described (well thought plans welcome) and people stuck in the GREEN zones can communicate with those in WHITE and try to get similar shit done there. If you can't push the State push the City.

Remember: Threaten their paycheck. It's too easy to just do nothing as an employee of the State. Threaten their paycheck and these often risk-adverse fucks will buckle.

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76d511  No.117178

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Political

What Does Not Work and The Plan

There won't be even a soft or true cold war for the next 10 - 30 years. So we have 10 years at least to push our policies, set up homesteads in the state of choice, and build up city, county, state and interstate networks and plan this shit out.

You don't believe me? Then what are we to do? After stockpiling and moving or bunkering down, what is there to do besides what I am about to suggest? There will be nothing to do for a long time, trust me, and if things turn to violence then one will likely base their plan on very specific local factors and very general know-how.

How often do we "plan shit out"? We are constantly held in a state of ready and on the cusp of "happening" - but this paralyzes one from acting, as no plan is good enough and war is "just around the corner" so there's no point, right? On the other side, there are those that are completely internally collapsed, barely pulling themselves out of the murk if at all, only light and clean air being some self-improvement steps they're taking.

There is more radical things we can be doing that aren't even radical. They are intelligent proactive actions. Not even violent. Though now you may look around and see that we wait.

We KNOW, especially now, that even if the frankfurt school fuckers are doing drastic shit it is best to let them destroy their own image and cities - but we must act on it. These are opportunities we should have been waiting for, ready to take legal and political action for inter-state border control, for self-defense laws, to push and champion policy in your city and to occupy the capital with legal and political demands such as changes to the state's constitution. If we have some legitimate legal case and strategy we can demand an expedited court case of 1 week. Any precedent, either win or lose, allows us to take another look at it and see where we went wrong and have the same individual challenge the decision or someone else create a parallel case not unlike the first. To clarify for any who aren't familiar with the legal process: a lot happens between court dates, even after a 'judgement' if you're doing things correctly.

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76d511  No.117226

>>117178

Political cont'

And then to defend the land, let there be trenches dug around communities of the like minded or at the will of a few, filling sand and silt bags or firing bricks from clay, and farms (on your yard? Your homestead?) within these entrenched communities. If the housing is sparse, dig around your property and at choke points if there are any, clear away trees and underbrush for vision, and create flat compressed ground so you can see any silhouette moving across it in the near-dark. Work with your neighbors to get them to do the same. Get a generator, store power in a protected way, have a means to hole up for a long while if you are 'sieged' and buy flood lights and motion detection lights to put all around your home. Encourage others to do the same.

Finally, we must push our internet operations begin into full swing. We've given up that territory. Everyone here is middle aged, they don't want to pull a #GamerGate or do what /pol/ used to. For this, to rally together our fractured boards and rev up the internet hate machine, would be perfect in these times.

The optics are as such: Fuck #GamerGate they have loli pedos and juvenile Ben Shapiro tier faggots. We must learn how NOT to be like what kicked this all off. The people here are smart enough to figure out that our message is more focused than that, but we have to remember to work often from the humor angle. WE are the "liberation". If we are too hamfisted it will not spread.

If anyone has a pet plan or some grandiose vision of theirs their input is welcome.

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fe2035  No.117463

>>115982

I want to move to Idaho so bad right now. Just a couple of years and I'll be there.

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f339d4  No.117510

Thanks for your invitation.

I don't have any vision grandiose nor I plan that can be pet.

There is a series of radical mistakes that will turn critical after any "fase 0", worse there is a FUNDAMENTAL FLAW: your "pet plan" rests in "I, me, my view, my happiness, I prefer, I´d like, I'd love, I etc."

You are dealing with a thing called SOVEREIGNITY, that is a something bigger then you, your sons even bigger than your people, is a thing trascendental. You can only understand Sovereignity if you undertood God.

God exists, War School taught me this.

You are dealing with the creation of a STATE, that is POWER, and Power is a collective political entity. You need an IDEA. What is the Idea of America? The Idea of America is called Americana.

The unique tool for the Creation of State is called War. Before you plan you need to understand the concept of War. To understand this you need some time before you understand the concept of Center of Gravity.

To develop an Independent State think of 3 layers

Layer 1

Energy - Metals - Food - People - Knowledge - Megaindustry

Level 2

Industry (and others)

Level 3

Trade (and others)

There is no Layer 1 in the mentioned Northern states ergo No development.

There is no other idea than "me myself" in Montana Idaho but the Center of Gravity in the -so called- "United States" is "Dixieland", Texas and the South. The only American idea is in Dixieland NATURAL RESOURCES are also there. The Enemy, your enemy, knew this long ago, why do you think they created the KKKs?

A Nation is not about what "I want I like", much less is War. To have Faith you need to lose yourself.

A Revolution in Texas is possible, but you need to put yourself in gear, but essentially you need a DRIVE other than "me myself".

There is one second viable option in Argentina, research "Plan Andinia". There is a war over Argentina, Patagonia and Antarctica and there is a Plan - not a pet - countering Plan Andinia.

Before you come up with "states + Caanada" I tell you NO, there is no national idea in Canada. To make a revotution you need PEOPLE WITH RAGE, WITH HATE AND WITH FAITH because only Faith can overcome Fear. The Men who will fight the beast are those with NOTHING ELSE TO LOSE OTHER THAN THEIR CHAINS.

Salutations

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f017b2  No.117546

IMO I think the best approach is to go to the frontier. Whether that is Alaska, or Siberia, or Nunavut, or an island somewhere. Go someplace where you can stake out your land, grow/ranch your food, generate your own electricity, and otherwise live a life independent of western popular culture and the western polity. If such a thing is possible.

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f71093  No.117982

File: 0468525fde58e54⋯.png (166.06 KB, 712x440, 89:55, usa_statesss.png)

>>117510

I am OP. I will translate what you say into a more cerebral form:

The assumption must be made that there will be war. If one assumes otherwise, they are a fool risking everything, leaving themselves vulnerable and motivated by a weakness of character, letting the enemy gain ground and resources and free to enslave and oppress one's own blood (race), leaving the fight to another day when one's enemies are even better prepared and in an even more advantageous position.

Even if one assumes nothing about the immediacy of war, one must act according to the possibility of war soon, and the loss of power that will result in total annihilation in the long run.

Thus the center of one's plans must be around a near future war whether by one's own timing or by the timing of the enemy.

To go to war means to create a new State and become a Sovereign entity, to enter into nationhood.

To found a State, one must have a central 'idea' that signifies the values, virtues, and vision of the new State.

To go to war, one must have resources, people that get and may fight for or contribute to said 'idea' and new State, megaindustry (as our enemies have said megaindustry or greater potential for it), knowledge and necessary infrastructure (power, sewage and running water for instance, but this isn't entirely necessary for civilians, but for megaindustry and communication, so often running water and sewage isn't necessary except in population dense zones which may be evacuated to country side if utilities are not functioning, though there are industries that require water of course).

The lone star state has people with the 'idea' that most aligns with white nationalism and the will of /pol/acks, rich in resources, rich in megaindustry, rich in land, and rich(?) in important infrastructure.

The people of the lone star state and dixieland in general have the necessary rage, hate and faith to go to war.

Montana etc does not have people with the 'idea', nor the rage, hate, sometimes faith, they do not have the resources, they do not have the megaindustry, they do not have the numbers, and they do not have the infrastructure for megaindustry.

Thus the Lone Star State and dixieland in general is the only viable option for a white nationalist movement.

I agree the "me me run away be safe live long let zog take over" shit is trash that has to be purged.

>>117546

Retarded.

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I have created a new map to reflect what a new State may look like and the necessary border restrictions, and a messy visual aid of what transport would look like (just to stimulate the imagination and to investigate further).

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32616b  No.117993

File: 6e49e51e00e33c1⋯.png (200.83 KB, 712x440, 89:55, usa_states_expansion.png)

>>117982

Likely expansion states now.

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7a0690  No.118319

>>116002

>>116004

This man does not lie, Austin should be obvious to everyone but I can personally vouch for Houston. You know how many mixed race couples I see come into my work on a daily basis?

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46ad3c  No.118328

>>117226

you want us to clear trees and brush to what? turn our fucking homestead into Gettysburg?

Fuck that, you want to defend against hordes of niggers its in the woods..

Black people are the least interested and least likely to SET foot in the woods for any fucking reason whatsoever. your best defense is the foiliage asshole.

american nogs dont know what to do in a jungle that isnt made of leggos and concrete.

Guerilla Warfare and IEDs are gonna be more effective in denser brush as you can "create" the pathways you want intruders on

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f95771  No.118602

>>118328

The issue is visibility. You'll be sitting in your home or outside it and definitely won't notice people in the woods coming up.

I guess you could turn your place into one that literally blends into the jungle but I just don't see it without putting the building in a hill with knowledge of moisture wicking and water drainage.

There is in all likelihood going to be no 'war'. But a group of violent fuckers might go around and pop lone homesteaders in a state, hit 10 places or more in one night and no one will be the wiser for at least a week (so at least 70?). If five of those are high competence people that's quite a loss. I should say that some sort of alarm system would be important; if you're going with the alarm system and it's reliable then go ahead and live in brush. They won't see the wires and trip them. But it won't be easy to find them either way, so you'll be stuck in your home or you'll have to make a break into the woods and give up your home, hoping you won't run into anyone and that they aren't too close to shoot you as soon as you pop out. All in all I think a defensible position is the better idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfrH97P6uRY

Gravel walls are heavy and requires some 'special' considerations but it really doesn't require 130IQ to build it right, and to do test runs of free standing walls or to brainstorm solutions. Having gun ports that open from the inside with anchor to prevent being blasted of its hinges or frame or whatever made of bullet proof steel, wouldn't be too difficult either. The planning has to be right though. Some thermal or night vision goggles would be useful of course.

All in all the resources available makes it possible to create a sort of bunker for relatively cheap.

>>118319

That's disappointing. Depressing.

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aebd59  No.118669

>>118319

OP here. On race mixing:

Microchimerism: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7676297_Male_microchimerism_in_women_without_sons_Quantitative_assessment_and_correlation_with_pregnancy_history

Now the amount of male cells per 100 000 is 0 to 20. This means that they can't possibly be inherited from grandparents, as in, a grandmother had a son and then the daughter carried some of the older brother's cells onto her own daughter (without any son or abortions of a male fetus). When looking at those that have induced abortions we find a high likelihood for male cells in their body. A woman that has an abortion is more likely to sleep with more men, and clearly she's risking pregnancy by doing so without a condom, as otherwise she would not have to have an abortion. A number of these women, that have had no abortion and no son, and no brother, still have male cells in the body.

This can only occur from microchimerism. There is no other explanation, as those with spontaneous abortions do not have the same probability of microchimerism (they have less than half the chance of it occurring).

So just as an individual "remembers their first" (especially women), and knowing that the emotional and social impression lasts their lifetime, we can conclude that every woman will never be free of the taint of another man. This happens to men but to a much less severe degree. Thus man whores are of course trash, but female whores are even lower.

Now maybe you want to fuck filth. There is no one stopping you from fucking literal animals. If you live on your own, no one knows what you do in the privacy of your home. And if you can get away with it, you may murder and rob and destroy. There is nothing stopping a person from immorality except consequences, and conscience. When the only reality is immediate experience then anything goes, I suppose. The capacity for genius is dwarfed (due to its perhaps recessive nature and thus difficulty) by the capacity for absolute braindead retarded sub-human degeneracy. It's easy to drive into oncoming traffic. It's difficult to go 80 years without dying living a somewhat free life. It's easy to be diseased and a burden. It's difficult to be clean, healthy and to relieve burdens. It is easy to be manipulated and brainwashed or controlled and wrong about things. It is difficult to figure things out, think for yourself, and be right.

Our genes include many recessive ones that are lost by race mixing. One does not continue the pursuit of whiteness by race mixing. One does not honor their ancestors, one does not purify and cultivate blood and soil, one does not push the interests of their race forward and onward. One must shit on their own race to race mix. Many genes working together are lost, some only meaningful in tandem with others.

Perhaps one day it will be easy to do all the right things. In certain situations it definitely is. In certain environments it definitely is. But this is because of the groundwork of your blood, the pressures to do right from outside that have existed for millennia, and the knowledge and skills gained over your lifetime in civilization.

For more check out the Race Realism thread >>>/pnd/20966

It has many many many more red pills on race mixing, most of them about the offspring, behavioral studies and genetics though.

I wanted to speak on some of the sentiment of it and also my take on micro-chimerism since it's a bit more difficult to interpret the data (well) than other studies.

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1ffd9d  No.118680

File: a9b5f27e2277954⋯.png (1.38 KB, 80x80, 1:1, mass_protest.png)

'It takes 20 years of constant involvement to begin to master a little thing called War', that I was told 20 years ago, so let us put this the easiest way possible.

Dixie = Center of Gravity

State = War

War forges the State, when you establish a State you make War.

You have from strong to weak: Sovereignity, Independence and Autonomy. To attempt Sovereignity you need a Nation. For Independence you can be a State, many things can be autonomous, towns, regions, an embassy, a person can be autonomous.

What you see happening are the dire effects of a FAILED NATION. It doesn't take a hitler to understand the relation between Nation and Race, Nation is Race. I know it sounds like shite but Americana…

… she should have collected her own cotton.

The ongoing Unconventional War is forging a Police State, a "well regulated militia" works well to keep out antifa (mob tyranny) at bay but (((they))) will not allow anyone evading their New State, you need a plan better than beerguts with AR15s waiting for "theirguys" aka National Guard + Army + More army. They are on the wrong side of the ballance of force.

You come for the truth and this is the truth: THEY WILL GET YOU NO MATTER WHAT BECAUSE WEREVER THERE IS STATE THERE IS WAR - WAR IS FOREVER, IT NEVER CEASES IT RESHAPES, POLITICS IS AN EXTENSION OF WARFARE, WARFARE IS AN EXPRESSION OF POWER AND POWER IS FOREVER

Before you draft any maps I suggest you take a good time to understand the concept of Center of Gravity.

So I reel back up to the top, WHAT IS IT ALL ABOUT, is about Sovereignity, is it about Independence or just Autonomy?

1)

For Autonomy you can just bug out and find other "preppers", "oath keepers" in communities, small towns in Dakota, Montana etc. You might stay awesome for a time but (((theirguys))) will get to you, they will falseflag you, throw something at you, and they will go for you. You can run on for a long time, sooner or later one way or another they will get you.

2)

Community can go full Switzerland and become an Independent State, congratulations -> you will be at war with Jewnited States of America <- State = War.

All boils down in how hard it is to take.

How little the gain.

How big the perils.

To resolve that ecuation of forces I suggest your State gets proficient and patriotic generals, the State can also turn full Palestina.

A landlocked State is sterile for the time it survives, the enemy will attack you constantly. Sit there and wait is the ultimate shit strategy. Contingency is doom. Grow potatoes but also brains. World revolves, you must revolve faster.

I am not saying it is impracticable, William Luther Pierce proposes a plan in the Turner Diaries, I am saying that the State is a vehicle, it is a passage not an end.

3)

For a NATION there is no chance other than Dixie or a far away territory with vast resources both natural and human > and a deep-rooted national idea <, namely South Africa, Argentina, less probably Australia and Canada.

And side note the relation of these with Great Britain.

Argentina is by far the richest and the one with brave god-believing people willing to kill and die for their Nation thus the most viable, Argentina and Dixie have one bridging idea that is Carlism, Spanish Ethical Christian Nation State. The "War of the States" was a proxy war between Spain and Britain, two contesting world models.

The British Model also The Kingdom of God on Earth is what you see unfolding, it is the Invisible Kingdom of Parvulesco, the Gog vs Magog, the Ordo ab Chao and it has overshadowed the Spanish Ethical Model.

The crudest LIE told to americans is that the British Model of "liberal democrazy" is the way to go.

The (((brits))) exchanged the concept of "State of Right" for that of "Rule of Law", they are not the same, there is no equal in English for "Estado de Derecho".

Now add muticulti racemix and you have Minneapolis.

Creating a Nation is a completely different process by means of multidisciplinary operations that I can't nor wish to draft in this board. Nations are created dying not trying to survive. With God on your side and not dreaming with green grass and "peace".

In Resume:

Whoever wants to 'bug out' for green grass and blonde girls the time is right now, go North best luck.

Else, master the "G things" God, Gravity, Guns. Toward mastery there is a 20+ years climbing up.

To pass down an advice that proves awesome to me: learn how to obey.

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cbed85  No.118868

File: c8ec41315ad8251⋯.png (1.83 MB, 1000x1366, 500:683, engineer.png)

>>115988

>spin a generator with a bicycle that powers an electric oven/kiln to create clay bricks

Delete this shit.

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f4c8e2  No.118890

>>116528

>>116562

>>116527

reputable sources say there is no way to reliably trigger yellowstone's eruption

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cbed85  No.118899

File: a58a535132e184d⋯.png (230.06 KB, 480x480, 1:1, carl_sagan_yellowstone.png)

>>118890

The bolshevists won't be done until they explode this rock.

The I-395 leads to another outlet of that same supervolcanic system. It's in a movie.

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ed601b  No.118957

File: ad640d89e63d7b4⋯.jpg (73.43 KB, 612x648, 17:18, DgMEm5sUcAI1XWX.jpg)

>>115982

The green is going to grow to. Most rural areas are full of fucking boomers. Everything is consolidating to the cities.

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2f0b88  No.118989

File: 7dc2421dcca44f4⋯.png (197.49 KB, 712x440, 89:55, united_states.png)

>>118868

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It's the least efficient and easy method but the point is it can be done. I'd set up a platform, a frame, then pulley up a big container, 300 kg, filling the raised reservoir 300kg at a time (with a 6:1 system not too bad) until full, then have a mechanism open a gate and have the water spin a turbine and drain into the lower reservoir used to refill the upper one. 20kg flow. Just my take.

There's power generation systems that just involve dirt, water and metal rods. Magnesium and carbon in line with the sun I believe generates the most power. Fill an ice tray with dirt, below rim (so they don't connected) with some screws stuck in each and copper wrapped, connected in series, put some water into the dirt and you can light an LED. I'm guessing a vertical 'bookcase' of containers of dirt fit together snug, put in cheap plastic will do. Just pick up 100 pieces of free craigslist entertainment centers and book cases and tables, hack some shit together, and you have your power farm racks ready. A simple book case 5 ft high with 4 shelves including the bottom, all with necessary dirt and metal rods and water, should be enough to power a very bright new non-LED or very high powered LED flashlight for a week. Literally. Might need another watering, but it will just keep going and going. That means you can charge batteries, step up with capacitors, get some serious power off a 40x20 ft area with vertical stacking.

Here is a dewy eyed first link. Thought someone would find it funny: https://psmag.com/economics/making-electricity-from-dirt-43325

You can get some decent power from the most hick set ups if your power necessities are low and your scrap yard overflowing. But that would be retarded, because we don't have impoverished power needs. It's nice to know though that even on a tropical island in the middle of nowhere, sand and salt water generates electricity.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=O5Dsgd6czC4

Here we're looking at a unique insight: Even the smallest bit of dirt will generate electricity.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=aCCK132OIGA

Here we see the ice cube tray standard at work.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=6_5U1RdZDfE

Here we find that perhaps a coiled ground (cathode) results in a shit ton more power. 230 mA rather than ~5 mA. The fibrous nature of the anode (bundled) and depth in the soil (and height from ground?) may contribute significantly but who the fuck knows. He gets up to 900 mA so assuming 500 with .6v we got .3 Watts with a hicked setup. With tinkering and different arrangements with buried, half buried, arrangements of metal, different dirts, layering, then one can figure out the right setup and get a big 80x40 ft area at least, probably get 500watts day and night.

https://invidio.us/watch?v=niBAyyyr_wU

In this you see failure. Perhaps microbes are to do with it as the first link suggests? I think rather it's to do with the equipment and over watered trench.

Setting up a wind farm is also possible, but this is interesting.

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>>118957

Eh. What a shitshow.

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So I'm looking at this map, decided it needs to be more information dense. The BANANA states need a banana dangled in front of them to be steered and motivated. They are also prone to chimping. This means "muh dick", this means "muh cousin", this means "lynch niggers", and this means "YEE HAW!". The COLD BLOODED states are just cowardly, unphysical bunch, but not entirely degenerate. Just "learned retards". Can be swayed and prefer diplomatic solutions to fucking everything.

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2f0b88  No.118992

File: 9bd4a81b7d6c6f0⋯.png (197.57 KB, 712x440, 89:55, united_states.png)

>>118989

Updated

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393ebd  No.119817

File: 09b923a3cb8d84e⋯.png (208.41 KB, 960x540, 16:9, subjective_objective_basic….png)

File: e0c704f638d0d2a⋯.jpg (88.53 KB, 728x546, 4:3, gdc2003_will_wright_14_728.jpg)

Alright OP here. Getting warmed up. Honing in on the plan.

The war is fought for the people's minds. We lose that war we lose everything.

What will you do when not even your neighbor in a rural little town thinks you're in the right and that Antifa, Lenin, Hippies, Thugs, any Black and whatever Communist shit is in the right? Already most of you tolerate neighbors that think this way, but when even the countryside think it too then there is no where to go. Only the incredibly strong and wise can deal with such a thing and lose nothing of spiritual or moral value in themself. Make note. You must have soul.

The plan begins with influencing everyone that will listen. Those you know and meet, online, by letter or email, by literature and action. All of it. But in what way? How? Your individual concept of what must be done and what is is not enough. It is not appropriate and too often inconsistent or wrong. We must be logical, have a powerful case, make great and convincing arguments. We must appeal to the individual, the group, and the masses.

To influence we must have Pathos, Ethos and Logos. To influence the masses, or hivemind (not groupthink, but hivemind) of an individual or small group, you must appeal to emotional logos and the logos of passion. You appeal to the fire in a person to ward the bugs off of them. You appeal to the passion in a person to peel the parasites of existential dread and shamelessness from their person. You must stir their spirit and their soul if you wish to pull them from dark waters.

To appeal to any group or network of associates requires Ethos, or Character. Ethos stands between the Pathos of the masses and the Logos of the individual. One must defend and uphold their character as this is all that tempers the whim of the masses and the often pinhole frame of reference of individuals. It is the Ethos applied to Logos that results in a catalogue of 'Logical Fallacies', practical regulation to hedge in wild debate and make resolution possible. Cultivate virtues, work on your character, defend your reputation. Don't virtue signal inappropriately or shallowly, but carry yourself well. A person with Ethos can be trusted to interact with different groups and individuals according to their "Ethos". It's no coincidence that Ethos and Ethics are so similar as words, as they are conceptually linked too. Do 'business' with those full of Pathos and they may feel they own you, or you could become collateral damage of some vision. Do business with those full of Logos and you may be dealing with cutthroats, or have to conform to some insanely convoluted scheme or micromanagement.

To appeal to the engaged individual requires superior Logos though. If logic doesn't back up what you're saying you are nothing but shallow.

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393ebd  No.119819

File: f267b1604a4d4ce⋯.png (551.47 KB, 3508x2303, 3508:2303, Internetsubmarinecables.png)

File: c04402779aab4ee⋯.jpg (78.09 KB, 680x578, 20:17, humorous_rhetort_to_naive_….jpg)

In all of this you have to improve yourself to keep a step ahead. If you're not growing and improving then you are the best of the best, right? I doubt it. Is your destiny to be mediocre? We need more than that, and you can be more than that.

Know who you're dealing with. You need to read who you're talking to. Figure them out, what motivates them, what they think, what they're feeling. To neglect this step invites ruin; tone deaf arguments, miscommunication, missteps, misunderstanding, distraction, being blind-sided, being goaded and entrapped.

If you're dealing with creative types, Jung's works are very good. The free-association and dissections by Jung leads to a pretty good comprehension of the 'hardware' or functional cognitive paradigm people operate on, and free-associating types don't layer for shit so could be quite useful when dealing with them or gearing something towards them.

When dealing with civic types, taking a 'classical' approach can work pretty well. You'd have to answer questions of sovereignty, relation of state to people, classical libertarian questions. When do they think about themselves? When do they think about their own group and do they fear the mob? Do they want glory, status, respect? Are these their relevant pathos? Don't be contrived and act as if they're nothing but civic though, there is a possibility for collaboration and a greater reality always. A critical discussion can easily turn creative.

When dealing with primitive [primal] types, you'd have to factor in their survival instinct, impulsiveness and grasping nature. How would you lead a 'tribal people'? What different sorts of tribes or 'tribal' are there? Clearly Ethos is very relevant here - but what 'character'? How does one go from small group to medium then big group thinking? When does a big group become a mass? How does pathos relate to this? The pathos of survival, impulse and grasping I suppose. Power and powerlessness, fear and awe, desire and misery. Primal pathos. Be careful not to be condescending or to insult their intelligence though.

Someone is a certain mix of free-association, civic and primal. The relative malleability of this mix is also relevant. It can be complicated.

And now the reading list:

>The Art of War by Sun Tzu for literally clueless fucks.

>48 Laws of Power by (((Greene))) because not enough white people distill this shit; if you have an alternative let me know

>33 Strategies of War by (((Greene))) for the same reason

>Plato's works on Socrates

>Aristotle's Prior and Posterior Analytics or Argument by Woods, Irvine

>Farnsworth's Classical English Rhetoric by Farnsworth

>King, Wizard, Warrior, Lover by Robert Moore; optional: The Red Book and Jung's works in general

>The Secret of the Golden Flower with Jung's commentary; a manual reported to make Carl Jung drop the Red Book (hearsay, I haven't investigated). I assume he read the full and original text of Flower after. It's a meditation manual.

Make sure to workout with power exercises as the focus of your workouts, such as sprinting and power cleans. Working out does a lot to keep one from burning out, providing buoyancy.

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662312  No.120264

File: 7ad080d1e9eb36f⋯.png (2.44 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 600px_Cross_of_the_Knights….png)

fucking great thread.

I've been searching for this for so long.

My country removed kebab in the crusades. But now its only a matter of time until it becomes (((Germany))). How does one move to America. It's expensive. But probably usa is the best country for homesteading, (the north states). hunting for food. planting herbs… For electricity (and fuel), look up gasifiers. You can use biomass from forests,or even trash, plastics. Skills to learn are machining and welding. Also dog training. You need at least 1 german shepard or belgian malinois on your property. plant fruit trees to make fuel.learn grafting. oh and by the way good look convincing huwhite people that there is a war on them. my country is 99.9999% huwhite and i could not talk this to people without getting flagged as a nut.

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0657d9  No.120368

>>115982

Change AZ to Green based on zero gun control laws and zero permits needed. Plus everyone here is fed up with niggers, even the spics are getting vocal against nigger protests.

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d1d6cf  No.121183

>>116004

I just moved to Houston and Texas would be an ideal place if you were really only interested in buying a big house and have some skill that is needed for oil and gas or medical services. I still have some exploration left to do but I'd recommend Idaho and those surrounding states before I'd recommend Texas. If you're up for an epic vacation, you should DEFINITELY come here and see the Houston Rodeo, San Antonio, Austin and grab some Bucc-es, but probably don't live here.

Pros:

- Texas is an economic powerhouse.

- If you like to garden you'll have tons of sun and water here if you're clever about it.

- If you like to road trip, you'll never get bored.

- Most relaxed gun laws next to Kansas.

Cons:

- Because Texas is an economic powerhouse it looks like a giant shopping mall where the architect and zoning board were smoking weed when they designed it. Have you ever vacationed next to an oil refinery or had a relaxing dinner next to an overpass for a 12 lane interstate highway? You can here!

- The meme of "cheap and plentiful land" is dead. The only cheap land is in west Texas and that is all desert and human traffickers. 10 or 20 acres just outside a city is as much as a 4 bed, 3 bathroom house with a carport and swimming pool in a nice neighborhood. So you're better off just buying the house.

- Again, most land is already privately owned so if you want to go offroading, dirtbiking, plinking with a long rifle or just GTFO and have a walk through the woods there is no federal land you'll have a right to be on. You can camp in a Texas state park but you won't find one of those trailheads sitting on the side of the road like you would in the Blue Ridge Mountains or the Sawtooths of Idaho. It's miles and miles and miles of tractor trailer stops and ranches. For comparison when I was in Boise you could drive 15 minutes and be next to a creek bed with crystal clear water to take a dip, clear your mind and be with nature. Or drive 2 hours and you'll be next to forests that look like something from a movie. This is not the case in Texas if you're a nature enthusiast, you have to pay for everything and it's usually not that great.

- Don't expect "southern hospitality." It's almost as brutish and unwelcoming as the northeast I was trying to escape.

tl;dr if you're a white person, move to Idaho, Montana, Appalachia, Pennsylvania or a surrounding state. You'll be much healthier and keep your sanity.

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d1d6cf  No.121187

>>120264

Read my blog..I mean post. >>121183

It sounds like you just want freedom. I'd strongly recommend the pacific northwest, Montana or some of the middle states like Colorado, Utah, Iowa, etc.

You can do everything you said on your own property and contrary to popular belief you can actually grow some fruit trees in the north as long as you're not living on a mountain or something.

I tried to escape the cold by moving to the south but tbh the cold is HEALTHY. Not just for white people too. All people can benefit from a nordic cycle, but they're usually too afraid to try something new.

The easiest way to get into the USA is to either marry, work or military. You can talk to a recruiter and here and they might have a way to get you citizenship if you can speak english fairly well, pass an ASVAB, background check and give 4 years of service.

If you have a college degree find a company that needs your skill set and come over on an H1B visa. During that time work on getting citizenship. It will take you years but during that time you can save money for a house.

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79e702  No.121199

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>>120264

What's up. Welcome.

Sorry to Aussie sounding anon that triple posted above my two posts and got deleted. Shit was off the wall mate. Try posting again it's fine.

>>120368

I changed it to grey again. There is more than gun laws and anti-riot sentiments to consider. You guys have the highest rate of hispanics in the country and weak to economic interests like in Texas.

>>121183

All so disappointing man. Based on your account it's clear that big business can bulldoze that whole state if they want to. Being banana chimp, no nature, expensive as fuck, and greedy as hell… downgraded to GREY. Also, illegals, race mixing, so on.

=\=

Geopolitics

Demographics, Traffic, Industry, Natural Resources, Education and Training, Weapons, Agricultural Potential, Voting History, Laws and Regulations, Attitudes, History, Statistical et cetera

Attached is the image of the United States with states and counties. This large political map makes it possible to overlap a lot of information relevant to any national socialist (or otherwise). One of the most obvious things one could do is color code which states and counties voted for Trump/Hillary and Obama/Romney then figure out if demographics are changing that would change the voter population. This of course isn't the most important thing; white/not-white, presence of freemason/no freemasons, presence of white nationalists/no white nationalists, presence of bananas, blue bloods or balanced greens, level and specie of spirituality factoring in several things including level of race mixing, living in nature, independence, history of resisting poz, promiscuity, families, media consumption statistics and vital organizations of one or another purpose.

For an understanding of the dark, the liberal, the kiked, the evil we're up against, I suggest reading the collected works of H. P. Lovecraft.

These rat nests should be called cult grounds. Cult ground Portland, cult ground Los Angeles, cult ground Seattle, cult ground of New York City. Otherwise, rat nest will do.

Anything over 1,000 in population density will as well always be susceptible to the onset of dark and liberal views. They become scared of asserting themselves upon others, as to piss off your neighbors means to piss off tens or hundreds or thousands. To piss off a certain group or demographic, a certain religious group, a certain whatever, may result in many consequences without course for reparations or resolution (such as vandalized property, anonymous death threats, a bleeding pig's head on your property, people that attack you in the street or in stores that recognize you, et cetera). And besides, to have a city that gets 'pozzed' means having to tolerate the proximity of the pozzers, whilst with a lower population density you can live your life without being reminded of their existence. To have to tolerate them can only be rage inducing and sometimes breaks the will of lesser men and women. Over a long period of time, and with raising children, tolerating their existence may result in the gradual brainwashing of the next generations or overall demoralization of those for the cause. Thus, these are not good places to move to and one can only assume that our 'political rivals' will hit these areas with great effect if they haven't already. In a sense, omae wa mou pozd. They are the least efficient places to influence. We must use our resources efficiently and effectively. Perhaps you'll take it upon yourself to go to these places or already live there but I cannot recommend it.

Now one should be able to homestead wherever you move to. 1/4 an acre is quite sufficient, but more is always better. Sometimes you can get desert type land acreage for under $1k, but one needs to understand how to permaculture desert into something like an oasis to make the most of that. It's easy to do research in this day and age and I encourage everyone here to try it. A thousand dollars is an insanely low investment for multiple acres of land that may feasibly become fertile land, with fruit trees and a pond. The spiritual influence a desert has is directly in opposition to the sort these cult grounds have. The reason one should be self-sufficient in this context is to avoid relying on a liberal boss or company for subsistence. It is to remove a weakness.

Make note of where major interstate freeways exist. Make note of tourist states, cities and attractions. Do these places rely on money from out of state? Make note of any economy that relies on out of state money, goods and capital. The most self-sufficient states and counties must be identified, and the web of dependencies identified wherever they are in every state/county. Vulnerabilities are vulnerabilities.

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10ebf3  No.121647

File: b0bf7931cb8e8d0⋯.jpg (2.95 MB, 4032x3024, 4:3, IMG_3579.JPG)

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Last year I had the opportunity to go to Montana for the first time. It was positively beautiful. Driving through the state I felt as though I had somehow reached an elevated spiritual plane in a land sculpted by the true way; the absolute laws of nature. I remember standing in a forest clearing and weeping openly, in the air the multitudinous birdsong and roar of a river rushing nearby, just because I was so overjoyed to be present in such a glorious scene. Since that trip I think of the place constantly. I feel those mountains calling to me still. My plan is to work for a few years, save up all my money, buy some section of land there and finally escape from the influence of this wretched world. Nothing else feels right.

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3f384a  No.122853

OP your map is flawed in several ways. I have spent years perfecting where the perfect location to bunker down and start self-reliant communities would be within the continental US.

The fact of the matter is that the Ozarks of MO, AR, and OK is the single best place to be. I've made spreadsheets detailing this stuff to the county level and have several maps concerning related statistics. I will try to post them later when I have access to the device on which they are stored. But to summarize

>Nuclear reactors, launch sites, and other targets must of war and prone to radioactive fallout must be avoided

<This excludes everything east of the Mississippi, and most of the Great White North

>Landlock concerns only applies to areas w/o access to Mississippi navigable waterways

<so stop worrying SO much about the ocean

>Arability and access to unpolluted surface and ground water matters

<This excludes most of the heartland plains

>Susceptibility to natural disasters matters - hurricane prone states, tornado prone counties, places that sit on huge fault lines, places prone to (super)volcanism or flooding are not suitable for a lasting stable self-reliant community.

<This excludes the gulf coast, the Northwest, and the flat landscapes of tornado alley

>Availability of low $/acre matters - we need to maximize the ability of all racialists to join the community. Maximum $2k/acre

<This excludes cities, suburbs, and land prime for industrial farming

>Availability of private non-Jew financing for land matters

<We cannot allow our very ownership of the land to be controlled by Jewish banks

>Defensible terrain matters

<They will come for us eventually

>Religiosity matters

<Only a people grounded in some kind of tradition can be converted to our cause

>Family court tendencies matter

<We cannot allow women to lord over us

>Distance from population dense areas matter <We cannot be allowed to be overrun by niggers and leftists who have half a brain and half a tank of gas when calamity/collapse inevitably breaks down US society

>Homogeneity matters

<Obviously

>Health laws matter

<We cannot allow the Jew to forcibly poison or feminize our children

>Homeschooling or availability of acceptable private education matter

<We cannot allow our children to be brainwashed

>Distance from cities, but opposite

<We need to be close enough to commute and win minds, but remote enough to avoid the horde

>Building code enforcement/existence

<We need to build structures that are resilient and cheap. These tend to violate code in one way or another

There is more, but these are just what is missing from your examination off the top of my head. You should get a copy of Joel Skousen's "Strategic Relocation." It is a good starting point, but fails to take into account Yellowstone, weakening magnetic fields, etc. I recommend supporting this author financially, but if you must, there are pirated PDFs floating around and easily found with joogle.

Basically, if your analysis is leaving the Ozark area as anything but ideal, your metrics are incomplete or wrong.

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949479  No.122911

>>122853

< Nuclear reactors, launch sites, and other targets must of war and prone to radioactive fallout must be avoided

Radioactive fallout doesn't last very long.

Nuclear reactors automatically shut down if cut off.

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ff1fe2  No.122970

>>115988

you are aware of the water collection restrictions in the Mountain West, right?

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c56c1d  No.122987

>>122970

Utah is the only one with a meaningful restriction on the books, and even then you can literally just ignore it because no one can stop you.

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3650b6  No.123166

File: 7caf34f369771d7⋯.jpg (272.15 KB, 1100x848, 275:212, electoral10_1100.jpg)

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If America declines, it's likely that a feudal city state border system will replace our normal state boards.

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d1d6cf  No.123279

>>123166

If you're looking for a really good, hyper-autistic book about this, buy "Strategic Relocation" by Joel Skousen. It's incredibly detailed and more autistic than you could ever imagine being in nitpicking and hyper analyzing every single state based on factors as simple as weather to potential nuclear targets and even routes of escape from a regional mass casualty event (i.e. earth quake, CBRN, 9/11 style event).

It's $30 on amazon but it's worth it. It's not light reading either, mountains of information, but it's got a reference section on a state by state basis to laser focus on a region and it's already on its 5th edition.

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d1d6cf  No.123280

>>122853

lmao I didn't even read this. What this guy says >>123166

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d1d6cf  No.123291

>>122853

Any suggestions of places to visit in the Ozarks? I've wanted to visit Hot Sprinks AR and it's about 3 hours away from me. The plains are really magical too, I had to drive through them when I was moving and I caught a thunderstorm and it was the most epic thunderstorm I've ever seen, it was incredible.

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0fc008  No.123296

>>123279

>>122853

OP here.

Since you two both suggest the same book I'll check it out.

Arkansas is inbred as fuck though.

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8ce4aa  No.123386

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OP here.

I believe the next step of this mapping project is to create more detailed city maps overlaying the general US map for every city over 100k population instead of just a circle marking its location. I have doubled the scale of the map but my computer and microshit's paint is not quite good enough to double it once more. If someone could do so, thank you.

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679fe3  No.123592

This entire discussion has been occurring for decades now. Waiting for the eventual destruction of the US, which will never happen. Whites will go extinct by 2200 across the world. Meanwhile racial aware whites are small island pockets in a sea of brown and shitlibs. We have to get to somewhere manageable and worthwhile. Which is also far enough away to not provoke the ire of the Jewish elite. This is why Rhodesia failed, the non-whites around them starved them out. Especially after the Portuguese were horrifically wiped out by Communists.Confederate separatism is foolishness, especially given the fact that the South might as well be a new region of Mexico in some areas. New England is too resource poor and close to the New York and Toronto elite to work out. There is already a movement occuring there under the autist who runs the New Albion project, needless to say I think that these projects to make a conservative area in New England or much worse (haha) in Vermont or S. Carolina will fail miserably.

Let Harold Covinginton speak for himself:

>twelve million Whites, give or take, plus a rather younger median age of population than you’ll find elsewhere on the continent, which is very important. The White population of Florida and Arizona, for example, is overwhelmingly geriatric. Twelve million in the Homeland is a lot of people, but with hard propaganda work by an active and fanatically dedicated minority, enough of them can be convinced to join us to provide local bases for incoming settlement. Contrast that to trying to work around a population of almost 300 million people, in many places majority non-White, on a continent this size, wherein we are totally and utterly powerless and scattered to the four winds. This is the primary advantage to the Northwest concept: reducing the problem to manageable proportions, to something solvable, cutting back the goal to one which is attainable. For almost seventy years, we have harbored a bizarre collective illusion that through some unfathomable means which no one ever seems able to explain, we will somehow win back the whole North American continent all at once and cause millions of nonWhites simply to vanish in a puff of smoke, without any effort, and certainly without the mass bloodshed such a project would in fact involve.

Face it, we are a tiny portion of a huge sea of people. Waiting for the collapse, the apocalypse, siege, or Jesus to come back is foolish. Nationalists have a knack for talking but not walking. This content reminds of Mason's siege from the 1980s or civil war ii from the 90s. Matthew Heimfart also was enough of a genius to think that some rednecks in a trailer fortress could fight against the most powerful military in human history..

>What Is A Community? The NF defines a White

Nationalist community in the Homeland as any area with a minimum of twelve (12) non-dysfunctional adult White Nationalists, living within half an hour’s drive of one another, who are aware of each other’s existence, and who regularly meet and interact personally, not on the internet. Nationalist communities will eventually serve as the foundation for everything the NF does. They will be accomplished to some degree through local recruiting within the Homeland, but primarily through the

relocation of the better elements of the existing racially conscious White population to the Pacific Northwest. Community-building will be an ongoing project from this point on, and will continue even after political independence is achieved. Racially conscious White immigrants coming into the Homeland will hereafter be referred to as Incomers, to differentiate them from native-born Northwesterners and

organic migrants (see below.)

>What Is A Unit? A Northwest Front unit is a group of at least three (3) non-dysfunctional adult White Nationalists who are resident in the Homeland, who live within half an hour’s drive from one another, and who act in concert to achieve the goals of the Party and bring the Republic into existence. Units are organized in the “Trouble Trio” format detailed later on in this manual. What Is A Contact? A Northwest Front contact is a single individual, resident within the Homeland, who agrees to allow his or her name and contact information including a physical mailing address to be published and distributed to interested parties. The contact agrees to assist incoming settlers relocating into their area of the Northwest, and also engages in political and other activities on behalf of the Party to bring the Republic into existence.

https://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDFs/White%20Book%205.pdf

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9ecd8f  No.123594

>>123386

The problem you're going to face is the automatic assumption that "rural = conservative, urban = liberal". If, however, you've ever been to a small town in East Texas or rural areas in Ohio, you'll find some of the most leftist liberals you've ever met. Those places are basically owned by Unions and are invariably Democrat. The US cannot be "balkanized".

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9a807e  No.123600

>>115982

>NH

<shit

Literally one of the safest, Whitest states with some of the best gun laws. You're shit.

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9a807e  No.123601

>>123594

>The US cannot be "balkanized".

Well it sure as fuck can't survive in its current state.

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679fe3  No.123607

>>123601

Exactly, however the breakup will be meaningless if we are isolated, alone, and without organization in a sea of 300 million people. After 2030, when the demographics flip, I could imagine power lines shutting down. Dams exploding due to terrible infrastructure, and a general degrading of society as robots drive the last jobs out of circulation.

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9ecd8f  No.123610

>>123601

It can and it will because the US was built on change. We have always adapted and have never catered to the whims of fascist fee-fees.

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848cda  No.123614

>>123610

It's dead right now.

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848cda  No.123617

>>123594

Being in a union doesn't mean you like niggers.

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2d0797  No.123629

>>123610

except literally everybody in america pre ww2 would be considered racist, facist ect by today's standards

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d5e6c1  No.123669

>>121187

i don't think i can go to the military, I'm 28 and have arthritis. i all ready did 5 year in my country's military. i think maybe the option is to save money and apply for a green card.

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9ecd8f  No.123691

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250784  No.123695

File: 7a5fc6d63ee2da1⋯.jpg (27.3 KB, 474x379, 474:379, eom3.jpg)

> Domination/Empire/Imperium > balkanization/ethnostates

The Imperium wants to know your location. For the Emperor.

I see the bigger problem with the "pacific north west!" bullshit as this:

It was obviously written by someone with an axe to grind.

They made it a symbol intentionally. Why?

Because The Pacific Northwest sets us up to

1. be landlocked and surrounded on all sides.

2. With little water resources when global banks are commodifying water resources into "blue gold"

(search that specific phrase for details)

3. Puts us in immediate conflict to the left of us with multiple communist states forming

a red wall (california, oregon, washington).

4. Puts us in conflict with a demographic block to the immediate south of us, intent on "reconquista".

If anything I'd say the bigger battle is in the region of indiana, ohio, pennsylvania

as a potential buffer against new york, kentucky, and tennesee.

You have 1. mountainous terrain if all else fails and it comes to fighting

2. The bible belt is more secular than 'utah' meaning, despite seeming cucked by israel worshipping

evangelicals, it is also more readily convertible to our way of thinking.

Texas should not be green. Texas is enemy territory.

More importantly this region I've highlighted has 1. access to major fresh water sites, 2.

isn't so stuck in its religious and political leanings that it cant be brought to our way of thinking,

3. has buffer states, has crops, has manufacturing, has hostile demographics that aren't so

large they're a major threat but are large enough to redpill people

(important because majority white *blocks* of states tend to cuck pretty hard when they don't

have *enough* contact with non-whites).

And more importantly this region has a strong coalition for gun rights.

Indiana, Ohio, Pensylvania, possibly Michigan (their entire regime is weak), West Virginia,

Kentucky, to a lesser degree Tennesee (mainly a buffer state against the black demographic of georgia).

And they have an easy win in Virginia, which was only recently thrown to wolves of the communists.

California could even be flipped with the right kind of work, but it wouldn't be worth it because

the demographics are all wrong and it'd poison the colaition because of it.

Of course turning purple states red again by splintering their demographic base on the gun issue would be a good start if you wanted to do something like denying the communists their base.

Their greatest strength, the issues they *stand on*, anti-guns, abortion, is their achilles heel. And like an anchor on a sinking ship, thats what will drag them down.

Learn from our enemies, the communists and globalists. Push through the negatives into new openings for victory.

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3c9b48  No.123916

File: aa787f3faf00c88⋯.png (117.92 KB, 980x1793, 980:1793, military_units.png)

File: f514ebb712dbfc0⋯.pdf (8.05 MB, Liu_Huayang_L_Dongbin_Wilh….pdf)

>>123592

OP here.

Yes you are correct in your realistic take on things. I am envisioning massive legal and ideological battle in every sympathetic district though. The law its own anvil, you just need to bring the heat and hammer. The elective republic is its own anvil, bring the heat and hammer.

>12

Squad size. Acceptable in Blue states, not too good to have in a Yellow, Grey or Black state >>122607 ; 15 - 30 acceptable if the people involved are smart in Green and White state. Nothing illegal. If connected through the internet, not safe at all. Only organic physical associations.

If you're meeting through the internet, stick to 2 people. Maneuverbrands.

>3

Call 3 - 4 a Firebrand. Call 2 a Maneuverbrand or Fire and Maneuverbrand.

>>123594

Refer to my shittier map above to see how dismal I view things to be.

>>123600

They voted for Hillary, and are geolocated up SHIT'S CREEK. So no. BLACKED. Though maybe you have a point, could be GREY.

>>123607

We must position ourselves well as the US destroys itself, with the right character to be torches and lanterns for our own.

>>123669

Too much adrenaline/endocrine issues fucking you up. Do power exercises, sprints and power cleans, eat veges, get a vege/fruit liquid vitamin and krill oil cold pressed (or cod liver oil), do gymnastic progressions and read this book for meditation practices. Maybe look up the Epub if those are safer.

I'm serious about the remedy I'm suggesting. Do it.

>>123695

Is kentucky and tennesee bad? Red pill me. I know they're hick but how bad?

I have changed Texas in the latest map. >>122607 good point on pure whites cucking from absolute ignorance. WHITE SHEEP.

ADL is located in Virginia, hence their pozz. I thought the pozz was deeper though. They have all these micro blue counties - jewish communities? Hmmmmmmmmmmm. They always have to deflower and corrupt virgins don't they? Sick fucks.

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3c9b48  No.123917

>>123916

Maneuverbrand sounds terrible. Maneuver team, Firebrand.

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15f8bf  No.124035

There was a lot of attention to Idaho when video of Coeur D'Alene guys walking around fully strapped went up and at that time the word was that Idaho was full, go away, limited opportunities there due to harsh inhospitable terrain etc etc. Or was this just hyperbole?

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2b6f26  No.124064

>>123916

OP, the squads described there were created by a guy who frankly has more experience than you in Ireland, Rhodesia, and the US military. Again, a fight for the entire US is lost. Fighting county by county is foolish because most of these rural areas are emptying,aged, or becoming shitlib with a huge population of urban suburbanites. FURTHERMORE, the reason why rural areas aren't top priority is because people can identify you easily as a migrant. Especially if you come all of a sudden without any reason. Creating bases of these units in cities will serve a purpose as the NW party members continue to infiltrate government, healthcare, and commercial institutions. Or create their own to support OTHER members coming in. The goal is to have as many people in the NW who are racially aware as possible in order to:

1. blend in with the majority white population so as to not get spotted, the most basic idea of guerrilla warfare.

2. convince and win over the white natives and bring the majority of the population over with the eventual succession of the region.

Meanwhile there is one remaining region that is perfect for our strategic interests and is in a far manageable territory..

Again, if this were to pan out. The territory must be within at least 24 hour driving distance. This is why your idea will fail because the tiny amount of people in these isolated counties will not have enough manpower or firepower to fight against the most powerful (weapons-wise) military in human history!

MOVE TO THE NW HOMELAND

>>124035

There are regions in the homeland that have good access to jobs. Remember these are some of the last pure white areas in the US. Of course there are jobs, but as places become more shit people will struggle to come to the last wealthy and prosperous region in this failed Republic.

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2b6f26  No.124073

Again. Those squads were created explicitly with the NW territory in mind. Not anywhere else. This strategy you propose could have been valid in the 40's during the time of the silver shirts. Or even in the 60s. But not today, when the demographics have gone this bad. Especially if it takes another decade to organize. A revolt like this will simply not work and will be quashed easily. The 2020s are the last decade where we National Socialists can organize. Let's not waste our time.

You seem like a sharp guy. I'd recommend, in fact challenge you, to look at northwestfront.org and inquire with us. Our goal is not to fight and die but to live.

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cbf723  No.124586

>>123916

>>123695

Kentucky and Tennessee are fine outside Louisville, Memphis and Nashville. Great gun laws (especially KY), decent tax regimes except for property taxes in the listed cities. And lots of pro whites. Tennessee is basically three states, with east Tennessee being the most based, middle TN second and west TN more like your typical Mississippi Delta demographic the closer you get to Memphis.

The two regions, in my view, that whites should be grouping up socially and economically are the Mountain west (MT, WY, ID mainly) and the upper south/lower midwest (IN, OH, MI, TN, KY and southern IL). Don't actually move to southern IL, but culturally they are more similar to IN and KY than the Chicago region.

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fde2f5  No.125242

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How realistic would it be to stay mobile during the happening?

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f40f45  No.125253

>>125242

1. There will be no happening. You fundamentally don't understand how the final collapse of human civilization will play out, which is why whites have already lost and why we won't fight back.

2. ACTUALLY mobile? As in moving around? Not. You're not going to be able to get fuel safely. Every gas station will be a stronghold until the gas runs out, and even afterward because of the effort put into fortifying them in the first place. An electric car will take days or weeks to charge for a day's driving–if at all–using a series of portable solar panels and the voltage they can provide. A moving vehicle in a social collapse is a massive target. "Hey, that guy has fuel. He must also have other supplies. Let's put a bullet through his windshield and take everything he has." They can see you coming, because you're the only thing moving and you'll have your lights on at night. They can hear you coming, because they probably don't have their own generators. Fuel acquisition itself probably won't make that much of a problem, of course. You'll just run out and that's where you'll have to set up camp. Hope you're in a woods, or at least somewhere that you can set up some brush cover.

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3c46f5  No.125262

>>125253

I'm another anon. But I want to ask:

How the final collapse of human civilization will play out?

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00610e  No.125396

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>>125262

>>125253

>>125242

OP here.

You should hole up in the woods and mountains and have footpaths marked out. By vehicle isn't a good idea after a certain point. It's fine before it's full blown breakdown, and that in itself is unlikely to occur, so it may be feasible if you don't pass through dangerous areas.

To prepare for this scenario you have to do a lot of the work yourself in figuring out whether towns would be safe to pass through, whether there are communes or groups organized/organizing in the woods anywhere near roads you'd have to use, what the political ideological leanings are in the area and along your routes, look for multiple escape paths and unmarked roads you can use, everything you can think of really.

If you can't do that you're gambling your life and whomever may rely on you given a serious crisis. You could put power generation on your land and water collection and live through the happenings of course, doing one and planning the other is good though.

>>123592

>>124064

I'm reading through this Northwest Front Handbook and it's a bit different than I imagined. Pretty good so far. 30 pages in.

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3861e4  No.133909

File: 917ffe808a0ea29⋯.png (759.22 KB, 1280x960, 4:3, gambits_for_deception.png)

This thread is from now on a mapping project.

The Goals of this Project

>Mapping in high definition each city above 100, 000 in population onto a national digital map with high enough resolution to clearly line each street of the city and mark important buildings or landmarks.

>Mapping county & state lines (work done for me), color coding the counties and the state lines based on voting history.

>Mapping areas advantageous to insurgents/ guerilla forces.

>Mapping military bases and surrounding area with high definition.

>Mapping natural resources.

>Mapping areas best for settlement.

I have been busy doing nothing, except this: >>>/pnd/128991 and some research and planning of things since my last post. This is a long-term project, 1- year timescale, next summer solstice.

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116be5  No.133911

>>125253

Get a bicycle you lazy burgers. Easy to hide too when mad max niggus come to scavange hunting for preys along the roads.

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116be5  No.133912

>>125262

By the looks of things and how everything is headed in the world atm. It is all becoming a huge communist melting pot all countries. Seeing this pattern you just have to look at history about what happened in communist countries.

But this time in a larger scale. Basically those at the top will drink the finest wine as those who are rest of the 99.5% of in the pyramid will fight in tribal wars as is happening and starting in Europe now and USA. You don't see it much in the news but clan wars are already happening in Europe and escalating quickly.

Knowing this and that the power like nuclear plants are being removed, yes many european countries have insuffcient powersupply now, and they refuse to reinstante nuclear powerplants due to leftist ideals"communist" so people will become more savage to get materialistic needs. Small scale wars and conflicts as the top 0.5% or even smaller percentage rulers will smile and watch the peasants play for them as planned.

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015958  No.134197

>>133912

It would be .001%. Upper class is competition and undermines the ultra elite .001%. Too many people that have a problem with child sacrifice, enslavement and genocide in the 0.5%.

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6e5693  No.134308

The South is only 1/3rd black (Georgia has a higher number) and the whites there are of the highest quality. Everybody saying in threads such as this that the South should be abandoned, become a black ethnostate or what have you are extremely misinformed, the high quality soil and the frequency of people like us compared to the rest of the US population makes it one of the better places to do things like this.

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476e68  No.134526

>>121183

Texas is invaded. Bye bye Texas.

>>121187

Utah will be the heart of the Zionist Evangelical force. They turned against a pro-White religion a long time ago. I'd be very careful with their data-mining centers.

Sheitan hides in the cities.

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54305d  No.140803

>>116107

idk why idiots on this board think its better for white families to live isolated in a chocolate city than in a no-go zone with 50 other white families

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54305d  No.140804

>>125253

>An electric car will take days or weeks to charge for a day's driving–if at all–using a series of portable solar panels and the voltage they can provide.

You say that like it's completely useless. I'm pretty sure early settlers would've killed for an electric car and solar panels, even with the shortcomings

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5068b8  No.140817

>>116140

If only we could get all the Jews to return to there holy land, and let Iran have its fun.

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dbc472  No.141919

>>116407

A good old pogrom is the only solution.

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