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Reading How To Win Friends and Influence People Anonymous 05/14/15 (Thu) 19:47:31 c78748 No.358

Hello /pen/! I'm reading pic related and even though I'm not too far in, I've been thinking about some things, specifically things that come about in Part 1 Section 2, "The Big Secret of Dealing With People".

In the book, the author comments that "The desire for a feeling of importance is one of the chief distinguishing differences between mankind and animals." You'll have no argument from me on that point. However, my primary question is dealing with application and utilization of that point. I know that with many of the people I have dealt with, that they would see the attempt at flattery and piling on of "importance" as a sham and might distrust the individual who tried to do as much.

Therefore, my questions are as follows:

1. Are the majority of people receptive to this type of attention/compliment/flattery?

2. How is one able to tell if an individual might be receptive to such forms of flattery? Repeated encounters? Using a few and gauging reaction? Both? Something else?

3. The book does not talk about individuals with Autism/Aspergers. Does anyone have experience with people on the spectrum and how these sorts of tactics affect those people?

4. Are folks in certain professions more susceptible to these types of flattery? I would imagine that an artist may be more receptive as compared to a given physicist due to (what I think, anyway) a person with a different type of mindset gravitating towards these professions.

Any thoughts? Comments? Thanks.

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Anonymous 05/14/15 (Thu) 21:08:04 c78748 No.360

>3. The book does not talk about individuals with Autism/Aspergers. Does anyone have experience with people on the spectrum and how these sorts of tactics affect those people?

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Anonymous 05/21/15 (Thu) 19:37:33 c78748 No.363

Read further, your questions are getting answered in the book.

It's not about giving poor compliments, flattery is exactly the way not to go (as you'll read later), but rather commenting on something you can truly, without inflation, see value in or appreciate - something that the other person is able to do, did, has, you'll read that if you read further.

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Anonymous 06/08/15 (Mon) 22:44:07 c78748 No.372

I would argue the following:

1)Yes, but to different degrees in different ways. A cynic or a person prone to paranoia would of course see a strong attempt as deliberate and disingenuous, while on the other hand, an egoist such as a salesman would be more likely to not notice the calculated nature of the attempt or not care.

2)On this, I would say appearance is a good first gauge. Perhaps not as refined a gauge as repeated encounters, or getting to know them a bit, but useful none the less.

3)We're basically talking about Spock on this one. They're going to want to feel that their logic is sound.

4)I would submit that there is a difference between professions insomuch as there is a difference of personality type between professions. Salesmen, politicians, preachers, etc, are in general insecure people and want very much to be liked and admired as people while doctors, soldiers, tradesmen, etc, in general want their skill or accomplishments to be admired.

My two cents on the topic.

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