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 No.34

Why hello thar, aspiring writers. I've spent the better part of my adult life writing short stories and such and finally got around to finishing my first novel last year. I'm hear to answer any questions you have on the gory reality of fiction writing.

You can read the beginning of said novel at: 112029.net
Some of my short fiction is available at: astropulp.blogspot.com

Fire away!
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 No.36

Is writing your primary source of income?

In the age of the internet and gnat-like attention spans, what does it take for a novel to be profitable?
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 No.37

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>>36

No, it is not. Commissions have thus far barely managed to cover my hosting bill.

Profitable novel-writing is a mixture of fan service and luck with a heavy emphasis on the young adult genre. To wit, older people don't have time to read and those that do have a very diverse range of interests whereas teenagers have all the time in the world and have yet to form interests.

If you consider the more recent success in fiction, this becomes readily apparent: Harry Potter, Twilight, and the Hunger Games are all targeted at young audiences. The one adult-oriented novel that comes to mind, 50 Shades of Grey, is Twitter fan-fic and capitalizes on its now older fans who are looking for the literary equivalent of pornography.

Genre writing can become profitable after establishing an audience. Mystery, Fantasy, and Sci-fi writers can eventually develop a healthy following. A Game of Thrones is a perfect example of this, but bear in mind the first book was published in 1996 and Martin already had 3 Hugo awards under his belt for various short stories and television scripts. It wasn't until 1999 that he made the New York Times bestseller list with A Clash of Kings and only really took off in 2011 (pic related).

So if you want to make money, write for teenage girls. Otherwise, write whatever the hell you want and hope people recognize as art some time before you die.
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 No.38

>>37

You will never be anything.


That what you consider art is faded and dull. No one will remember you faggot.
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 No.39

>>38
so harsh :^)
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 No.40

>>38

I exist. I'm sorry that upsets you.

No, I'm not.
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 No.43

>>38
Projection
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 No.60

>>37
Do you have anything to say to a poet or is poetry deader than dead now
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 No.63

>>60

Poetry didn't die, but the market for professional poets is miniscule. In the US, you have the national poet laureate, currently Charles Wright, a position so esteemed it pays a measly $35k. Many states have their own poet laureates, but these are often honorary positions that confer little benefit beyond name recognition.

That said, it's stupidly easy to get your poetry published in anthologies. Mind, you won't be paid for your work, but it'll appear in print. Also, participating in poetry readings is a great way to meet people in the literary industry, particularly those who run journals in which you can publish your work.
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 No.272

Have you ever had anything published by an actual publisher?

and have you ever considered just writing YA
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