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 No.16942

You probably already have heard about weird sayings about masturbation that it will delay your puberty (or will cause you to stay short), meaning less hair, less beard. Other claims like it makes your dick stay short, baldness and even the more ridiculous claims that it can cause short sightedness over time.

Well… I looked up Zinc deficiency and loss of testosterone. It does it all. I have developed short sightedness right at my puberty when I started fapping. Same thing happened to my brother but even worse. I remember all my friends and acquaintances in school had trouble developing facial hair. Fortunately not for me.

I am hoping that now that I stopped fapping my eye condition will not worsen or may improve even. Fortunately

I don't know what caused the ridicule campaign but it pisses me off because these are serious and irreversible health defects that are downplayed.

Does anyone have a similar experience like I mentioned or hopefully improvement after nofap? Any wonders that can help eyesight?

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 No.16944

File: 85d02fb7d84a93f⋯.jpg (1004.01 KB,3283x2262,3283:2262,martin sheen in apocalypse….jpg)

>Does anyone have a similar experience like I mentioned

yes, I noticed that I have a lot less body hair than my father. I began to have eyesight issues (nearsighted) around the same time I began to fap.

>improvement after nofap?

yes, my hair on my head and my facial hair grow *a lot* faster. yet my facial hair definitely isn't as full as my dad's. furthermore, my voice is about ~10% deeper since I've been on NoFap (on day 45 today, what a coincidence).

I think my memory may have improved some, but maybe not, i'm prescribed topiramate right now but I quit taking it over a week ago once I discovered that it led to depression, poor memory and others including myself also felt like they were getting stupider (srs) from taking topiramate. hopefully the side effects will all disappear, i've been on this shit for two years now and when I was fapping, PMO + topiramate made me very, very depressed and I felt like shite. thanks a lot for telling me the side effects, Dr. Goldberg. had a PPD a few days ago, I hope that shit doesn't make me forgetful, but I've been suspicious that it has somewhat made me more forgetful or some kind of brain fog, mostly because others online complained about PPD (for a tuberculosis test) fucking up their memory. I'm suspicious of the medical mafia, as you can tell.

>>>16942

are you claiming that zinc supplements are necessary for real improvement of eyesight and stuff like that? if so, what about fish oil supplements, too?

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 No.17016

File: f2570062c563eb0⋯.pdf (2.16 MB,No BS guide to Vision Impr….pdf)

Read pdf related and >>>/tech/1002210.

I'll post the link too because I'm sure I formatted that wrong.

8ch.net/tech/res/1002210.html

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 No.17018

>>17016

>pdf

He dismisses the Bates method out of hand, without saying why. I've read Bates' book and he presents evidence based on thousands of clinical trials. If you're the guy who wrote that, please explain why you think Bates is wrong. I'm willing to hear different arguments, but 'yeah, nah' isn't an argument. Also the author's credentials are 'dude, trust me'.

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 No.17020

>>16942

>Does anyone have a similar experience like I mentioned or hopefully improvement after nofap?

I started masturbatin around 12-13 and started balding at around 16-17. My father is full blown bald and I had and still have stomach issues so it might relate to Zinc.

Regarding hairness, I have shoulder hair, early puberty and facial hair despite, also very early and easy I developed muscle mass. Faping wont do you good, but genetics and environmental factors are here as well.

I also sweat A LOT and always had, could it be related to faping?

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 No.17040

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The old wive's tales about fapping were all true. Damaged eyesights, faster aging, faster baling/grey hair. We ignored age old wisdom in favor of "peer reviewed scientific beliefs" peddled by kikes. I feel angry too.

And yes, I've noticed improved vision after 60+ days of pure retention (no sex/fapping, no lewd thoughts, if the body lusts I ignore the thoughts and refocus on my life and work). I have even stopped wearing my glasses to work (and do have to squint sometimes), but it motivates me to stay on this journey and heal myself. I figure 1-2 years of celibacy should give me my 2020 vision back.

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 No.17075

This is my first time on this board, and I have to say. It's amazing how similar all of our symptoms are. I started doing semen retention some time in early May, for spiritual reasons; and I have noticed many similar symptoms. I used to have very minimal facial hair: just my chin, neck, mustache, and side-burns. Even these didn't grow out much though. But I'm actually noticing hairs in that no-man's-land on my cheeks now. The other day I shaved because I had an event to attend later that day, and when I looked in the mirror before leaving, I had a bunch of small hairs reappear on my mustache area. I had to grab my razor and just shave it dry. My voice has gotten deeper too. My eyesight is terrible, and I haven't noticed much improvement though.

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 No.17094

Not does make your dick short. I experienced it.

When I was 16+½ and was masturbating, the size of the dick stuck at particular length. When I did nofap for a month the size increased drastically like about 1/4th inch. Again when school started and I started getting depression, I started fapping and again the size stuck. Again after one year in vacations I started nofap and again size started increasing. Since then I never fapped. I love my strong rock hard dick and feel proud when I class I get an erection. I show it openly to girls and I don't feel same instead girls stare at this like they want it. Some giggles and it gives me more confidence and increase my lust to dominate.

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 No.17095

>>17094

Not -> nofap

Fucking autocorrect

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 No.17100

>>17094

No it does not. You simply entered flatline, a period of dead libido which lasts for some time but then returns with strenght. Try nofapping for 3+ months and you will see.

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 No.17102

>>17100

Yes I know about flatline. But I was just not been able to handle at that time. Now I'm on nofap and I get rock hard erections and my skin do stretch a little bit.

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 No.17128

I don't have yet problems with hair loss. But I already have a lot of white hair.

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 No.17303

>>16942

i've told a lot of people about zinc deficiency and they just think i'm crazy. i started masturbating really young, before I could even ejaculate (but would still orgasm) and my entire teenage years I was very frail/feminine looking. even now if I shave my beard I get told I look "cute". my dick is only 4.5 inches (i'm actually fine with it I haven't had any problems).

i had a nervous breakdown basically and when i was coming out of it i started taking zinc because i'd read it's good for promoting a positive mood/combating depression/etc. I eventually started using other things (vit. d/magnesium), but zinc was the first. immediately I started growing chest hair, thick facial hair, more body hair in general actually. my mind shifted drastically to a more masculine mindset (it was actually kind of uncomfortable). I felt more competitive, to the point of anxiousness, i was comparing myself to other men around me and how i stack up against them. before that i always kind of lived in this carefree, very feminine, relaxed haze; i even kind of miss it because it was pretty chill, but i understand the way i am now is much healthier for a guy.

kinda ranting and turning this into a blog post but I wanted to emphasize that this isn't a meme

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 No.17308

>Well… I looked up Zinc deficiency and loss of testosterone.

One ejaculation contains less than 1mg of zinc and magnesium and there's plenty of food that contains zinc and magnesium.

>I have developed short sightedness right at my puberty when I started fapping.

Staring at objects that are too close and lack of sunlight as a child causes myopia.

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 No.17309

>>17308

>One ejaculation contains less than 1mg of zinc and magnesium and there's plenty of food that contains zinc and magnesium.

And in spite of this Magnesium deficiency is increasinly common, because plenty of food doesn't mean all food and the most common, usually processed, food contain not enough or any magnesium. Furthermore, you can only hold so much magnesium before the kidney begins to filter it out so 1mg of zinc and magnesium lost is relatively large to the average intake and holding capacity.

>Staring at objects that are too close and lack of sunlight as a child causes myopia.

That's the theory, and some people think there is more to it based on whatever reason they give.

Also, sage is not a downvote ;]

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 No.17310

>>17309

>And in spite of this Magnesium deficiency is increasinly common

Why do you trust government designated RDAs to decide what makes someone deficient? The US dietary reference intake recommends you consume 36.36x more magnesium than zinc, yet there's not a single animal source food that contains that ratio.

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 No.17311

>>17310

This is a bit of a divergence from what we were talking about, but it seems interesting and I see where you got the connection from, so sure, let's talk about the legitimacy of government mandated recommended daily amounts.

>Why do you trust government designated RDAs to decide what makes someone deficient?

I assume what an expert on a topic says is generally true or at least partly true, I assume that the governments RDA is based on the findings and study of subject experts.

That is not to say square trust, I have encountered plenty of times that something that is being said by one expert is contradicted by another, or that my own and others their experience doesn't follow the expert conclusion, not to mention general development that can make a view outdated.

So no, I don't necessarily trust RDA's, but I assume they're good rules of thumb unless convinced otherwise.

>The US dietary reference intake recommends you consume 36.36x more magnesium than zinc, yet there's not a single animal source food that contains that ratio.

I am not an expert on the American RDA, in fact, I am not American at all and the European ratio is even higher. If what you're saying is true, I guess that could be interpreted as a flaw in the US/EU RDA.

Though I have a few questions about that.

1: Why animal source food, and not both plant and animal source food considering most people eat both meat and crops as their mainstay?

2: Why would a single animal product need to have that ratio? Don't we usually fill our dietary needs by combining different foodstuffs to make a fulfilling whole?

3: Could you recommend me some of the stuff you read or watched to come to the, assumed conclusion, that the US/EU recommended daily amount is not to be trusted?

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