/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

>Can nofap cure the gay?

God I hope so.

I'll write a better reply later in the week, I just don't have the time right now. A very interesting topic OP.

It can and does. It takes time but you can reprogram your brain.

>>12351

Yes it was caused by porn, and yes you can get rid of it. But what you need to do so is a girlfriend and a normal-like life. Nofap will just make it worse. Noporn is certainly a better solution.

Personally, i have almost reached the bottom twice, and both times i just got it out of my system by watching it a few times to get bored of it, then changing my perspective of it and hating it. Lasted hardly for 3-4 months each time.

No need to stress about it, just keep your mind focused on loving your race and hating the fags. If it doesn't go away in a few months, try reading about Skinner's behaviourism on how to reprogram yourself through reward.

If the homosexual shit started after you started fapping then yes. It will take several months depending on the person to get your brain back to start but it has to do with your brain on pleasure. Nature designed men and women to take pleasure from sex. Our brains get flooded with hormones like dopamine to encourage us to have sex and reproduce and to also bond with our partners. Now the thing with porn is when you orgasm everyday your brain starts to build a resistance of sorts to dopamine andyou eventually start to look for things that are more…erotic, more extreme. And you start to go down the slippery slope or degeneracy. This can be undone with time. All you need to do is not fap and avoid things that trigger your urges. Whether it be certain clothes, places, people, or things online.

>>12354

Well, it seems like it took a bit longer then that, and now I don't know what exactly I wanted to write originally so I'll give you this instead.

As someone who suffers from some very degenerate fetishes and who has had some very successful nofap streaks in the past I can say nofap does indeed help.

It was around day 50 for me that I began to actually regain some sense off what I assume is the natural position. I wrote about this subject back then too here on nofap, but I”ll reiterate, it was about that time that I at began to experience all of life far more explicitly I could call it?

Who would have guessed that not frying your dopamine receptors would make you appreciate the little things more, the feeling of grass under your feet, the softness of your bed and most importantly in this case, femininity. All kinds of little things like movement, the voice, the eyes, legs, and just everything became so starkly female and alluring, and it's difficult to explain. It's not like you walk around with a boner all day or something, I mean I could look at certain traits of persons in the same way I could look at a painting, it's an appreciation and realization that this living beauty is attainable and able to be possessed by yourself and by finding love.

Who would have guessed that the Greek statues are modeled after people?

But then I fapped to my imagination one day and like three day's later it was straight back to /d/ so that's 150+ days down the drain.

It's not worth it.

>>12438

>I have been trying to do nofap, had a few good streaks, but just relapsed. I feel like shit. Like always, I started with normal porn, and within 72 hours I was jerking off to gay shit. I don't even have any attraction to men IRL, and when I think about doing anything sexual with them it disgusts me, but for some reason, I always end up on gay shit during my masturbation binges.

It just takes time and success to ween off the degeneracy, I can only encourage you to keep trying. A tip for motivation is to write down the days you fap and when you don't, write it down for a whole year and even if you have an entire year of failed streaks and those damn 1's, the outcome might surprise you. Because when you take a years worth of 1's and failed streaks it could very well be the case you only fapped 100, or 80, or even less of the days in a year, and a 265 to 100 outcome feels pretty good to be honest. It can be better and must be better, but it's a show of what you have achieved so far.

>When I first started getting into this degenerate garbage I told all my close friends that I was bisexual (I was pretty far left politically at the time and it seemed like a good thing to do). Now, if I even tell anyone close to me about this I suspect they will just think that I'm just a self-hating homosexual/bisexual.

>Honestly I'm feeling pretty nihilistic about this shit anyway. Even if I can stop jerking off to this stuff, I'm still a fucking faggot for ever doing it in the first place. You can't undoing orgasming to two dudes fucking. Basically what I'm saying is that sexual degenerates should get the bullet and maybe I fall into that category.

To the first point I can say this. If you don't want to have the conversation just life your live like you want it, as a non degenerate, and when they ask about the bisexuality just tell them it was a phase or just straight up tell them it was a misjudgment of yourself fueled by your previous world view. It's in any case a damn shame to life a lie to avoid coming out of the closet as normal.

Then on the second point, and this one is something I had to think about in the past too.

The conclusion I came too is yes, it's fucked up and you WERE are faggot to do it, but as long as you never acted on it and have made the necessary changes in your live to get back on track redemption is possible. Hell, even gays who DID act on their lust could maybe get back to it if they realize why it was wrong, renounce that life and act on this newfound realization.

These are fucked up times we are living in and almost none of us are untouched sadly. In better times we can take a more hard stance on this issue perhaps, but right now we need to offer a bit of redemption to ourselves and the people that want to change if we want to have any chance of getting the rest of society back on track.

Those things are not good and we should not tolerate it, but the alternatives I have seen always end up like grand murder fantasies of the majority of the population, and if they are hones themselves or devolve in to deep, and deep self hatred and hatred of the rest of society for not following true moral path X or Y. So that's why I think we Let's keep in the middel who "we" in this case are need to be like a church with redemption for those who want and can too a certain extent/withing reason.

I hope this helps man.

Gay isn't real, every fag/pedo/tranny/etc has been molded that way by jewish porn and media, or abused as a child. There are no exceptions

All nofap does is make you nut in your sleep and lower your standards, so yeah, you become ready to fuck anything

LMAO This forum is full of idiots. I'm dying lol

>>12621

Thanks for the bump fag boy.

>>12621

Care to explain yourself?

My hypothesis is that you are so amused by us because you are a sexual degenerate yourself. After a life of indoctrination into sexual libertinism, the idea of others trying to improve their condition seems ridiculous.

But you can feel free to prove me wrong.

This is so cringeworthy

Yes. whenever I do nofap, after the first week I only get horny for women and not for traps/tranny shit. But when I become a Coomer again I then go back to my old habits and become a trap obssesed coomer. If you fap once a day it should be OK, but it's very hard to maintain a once a day regimen.

>>17713

btw this only works if you've developed a 'gay' fetish because of excessive masturbation and pornography. If you are a REAL homo then no, Nofap won't work.

I was toying with the idea of how this could be an evolutionary adaptation and I think I may be onto something. I think it all has to do with genetic diversity, hear me out here:

If the "alpha male" in a group of humans were to just fuck and fuck and fuck all the women nonstop then the genetic diversity of that group of humans would plummet and cause the usual problems a lack of genetic diversity causes. So what if built into our sexuality is something that if we were to do too much fucking would alter our desire to fuck into a form that no longer procreates and frees up the women for other men? That would allow other males in that group of humans the opportunity to do more fucking and therefore increase the genetic diversity of the group.

This also leans into the idea that born homosexuality is also an evolutionary adaptation. Think about it, its been shown that the more boys a woman gives birth to the more likely the next boy will turn out gay. We know that women are more important to procreation than men as they have one egg at a time that takes them 9 months to gestate where as a man can shoot millions of sperm into as many women as he can so if the ratio of men to women is too large then there will be men that are useless when it comes to procreation. So what if those men that are born gay are born to be conduits of the sexual energy of the alpha males that have fucked themselves into faggotry? Suddenly the born homos are no longer procreationally useless as they're serving a purpose in increasing the genetic diversity by taking the dick thats already fucked a bunch of women and also they aren't competing with the too many males that already exist in the group.

Bringing this into the modern era it follows that now that we have the pornography that allows us to simulate fucking well enough to trick our brains that its real that if we did it too much we would go into that same "you've fucked too much" mode that was evolutionarily advantageous to our tribes in the past even though the only thing our seed has been spread into is countless tissues.

Am I making any kind of sense here or am I totally out of left field with this line of thought?

In your own post you already admit it was the escalation of degeneracy that made you like it so you can go in the opposite direction too.

Even wanting anal with women follows the same formula. I remember the first time i saw it, i was disgusted and wondered why would anyone do that. Then in time i began to like those scenes. I was subverted.

Now that i nofapped and noporned for 3 years or so i am regaining the natural sense of disgust.

>>12351

Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

>>12438

Don't worry op… I'm a filthy degenerate too. Anime traps are literal perfection yet my eyes can always sniff out a transgender man. They live in the uncanny valley and even though they dress up and put on makeup with favorable lighting and filters I can always tell and it disgusts me… No matter how you present a fake skin you can't change what lies under.(bone structure)

Porn and tv is dangerous because you go into a passive soaking mode where your inhibitions are suspended. It will convert you to bad things if you dispel your natural gut reaction of disgust because you begin to accept everything horny people have lower disgust reactions and become very receptive it's kind of like a hypnotic trance. Op here started fapping normal but was exposed when horny to "Disgusting" content his disgust was dispelled in the moment allowing him to fap and get that rush of a new fetish. It's a slippery slope my friend and the climb is hard but keep going.

>>17737

>Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

How often is this the case with zoomers?