No.988
Monarchy is a form of discrimination, like racism and sexism; it creates the idea that some people are better than others because of how they were born. Intersectionality teaches us that different forms of prejudice are related: victories in one sphere soon lead to another.
The collapse of most of the monarchies was what ushered in a rising tide of social victories in all spheres of life.
Why would you want to reverse tihs trend? I'm talking to the people on this board who are not racist / sexist /e tc
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No.992
>>988
I know it's a shitthread, but:
>Monarchy is a form of discrimination, like racism and sexism; it creates the idea that some people are better than others because of how they were born.
All good parents treat their child as if it was the best child in the world. They don't care about equality along the way. The result, if done well, is that the child really does live up to their expectations, and does become better than his peers.
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No.994
"Treat the equals equally, the unequal unequally". And in any case, the worst forms of racism and discrimination were practiced in republics. Jim Crow laws, apartheid, enemies of the people, yellow stars, gulags and extermination camps. All in republican systems.
In contrast who was the biggest pusher for abolitionism? United Kingdom. A monarchy.
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No.999
>>994
The United Kingdom had slavery and serfdom for hundreds of years. By the time it went around banning slavery it was essentially governed under French Revolution principles anyway as a democracy. France banned slavery as soon as it had a revolution. Why not admit this isn't an accident.
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No.1000
>>999
>By the time it went around banning slavery it was essentially governed under French Revolution principles anyway as a democracy.
Seriously? Please pick a history book. The evolution of the parliamentary system and "democracy" in UK predates the French Revolution, which more than anything inaugured genocides and mass executions, by a century.
France may have abolished slavery in their territory and colonies, but never pushed worldwide the abolitionism as the brits did.
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No.1001
>>1000
>The evolution of the parliamentary system and "democracy" in UK predates the French Revolution
Never said it didn't.
>France may have abolished slavery in their territory and colonies, but never pushed worldwide the abolitionism as the brits did.
Never said it did. I don't think that proves anything .
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No.1012
Well, perhaps discrimination is not a ba–
> I'm talking to the people on this board who are not racist / sexist /etc.
Oh. Well, continue in your bubble then.
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No.1019
OP, why is discrimination and anti-egalitarianism bad?
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No.1027
>>1019
because of things like stereotype threat, social division, and just that the general feeling of being discriminated against is not a good thing.
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No.1033
>>1027
The discussion in >>420 is relevant to this thread.
>because of things like stereotype threat, social division,
In other words, social cohesion.
I'm not convinced that egalitarian ideology actually helps with social cohesion. Since egalitarianism took off, what do we have now? The progressive stack and yet more labels to divide? Besides, the main benefit to anti-egalitarianism is that the idea that people are not born equal allows one to actually be more accepting. If I start with the premise that we should be equal, I start off with a mindset of enmity and envy towards any conceivable group or person out there who is the least bit better off than me. I put myself in a mindset of "The tallest poppy gets cut," and the inevitable loss of liberty ensues.
Equality OR liberty.
>and just that the general feeling of being discriminated against is not a good thing.
That's a very poor argument.
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No.1037
>>1033
egalitarianism doesn't say that people are inherently all the same, it says that people have equal rights and should be treated the same.
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No.1039
>>1037
Is it Justice to treat the same that which is different?
You might aswell put a lump sum tax on everything to be coherent
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No.1040
>>1037
That does not address what was said.
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No.1041
>>1039
>Is it Justice to treat the same that which is different?
Most people would say so. People with blue eyes might have higher average IQs, but giving them special rights would breed tensions.
>>1040
It does. I don't think the kind of egalitarianism we're talking about is opposed to all inequality; just discrimination and prejudice
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No.1042
>>1041
Your point rests on the fallacy Argumentum Ad Populum
No better defence?
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No.1043
>>1042
You don't even understand what you're talking about. God, you're pathetic.
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No.1045
>>1041
I does not address it because one can accept that definition of egalitarianism, and still apply the argument from >>1033.
Although, I would argue that there really is no functional difference between the two definitions, and that trying to achieve 'equality of opportunity' (whatever that even means) results in a program of 'equality of outcome,' and vice versa. Moreover, I still don't even agree that 'equality of opportunity' is ipso facto a good thing. Egalitarianism in any form is an intellectual poison, and a false siren to prosperity.
>>1043 Says the commoner.
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No.1046
>>1045
I didn't say equal opportunity either. I'm talking about equality under the law and equal treatment by society.
You could say that's also impossible and will create endless disturbances which make society worse, but I see the goods as outweighing the bads
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No.1142
It's not based on race or such, it's "individual" "racism" if you want to call it that, not at the scale of groups. We're not all born equally, treating us differently makes sense.
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No.1172
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No.1252
I'd like to remind everyone that Racism became a boogeyman along with fascism around VII Communist Internationale meetup
A race which by 1400's hasn't developed beyond pre-stone age tools deserves to be discriminated.
Around the time Gutenberg created a printing press
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