No.5495
May I ask you a question?
What exactly are your reason for wanting the return of a ruling, monarchic class, outside of a purely aesthetic/patriotic one? Genuinely curious, as I'm inclined to say that monarchic rule IS better in the sense that there's much more honesty in receiving orders from an enlightened despot, but I just wanna know.
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No.5496
As one of those crazy lolbergs you hear about, it's a matter of time preference. As kings are like private property owners with respect to their realm, as opposed to elected or appointed leaders, who are more like temporary curators of it. Because of this, kings tend to be more forward-thinking, and have an incentive to be hands-off in their rule, and it's in their own interests to pursue a conservative tax policy.
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No.5502
>>5495
>outside of a purely aesthetic/patriotic one?
But that's the best and only reason.
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No.5511
There's a list of arguments in the about page:
https://8ch.net/monarchy/about.html
Also, I too liked Little King's Story.
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No.5514
It's economically preferable.
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No.5517
All of the most long lasting societies with actual civilization were the following:
A. Homogeneous.
B. Monarchies with blood inheritance.
Even among republics like the Athenians', they had a far more restricted franchise and far more restricted definition of citizenship. And among a elective monarchy like the Holy Romans' only men with a proper pedigree were eligible for rule.
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No.5524
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No.5525
>>5524
Tell us all the accomplishments made without the state.
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No.5526
>>5525
Please tell us about when you stopped beating your wife.
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No.5527
>>5525
>muh pyramid building
>focus on seen, ignore unseen
Don't be surprised if all of your windows are broken when you wake up.
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No.5530
Reminder that the Habsburgs plunged Europe into 30 years of war in order to maintain control of Bohemia in the hands of their dynasty.
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No.5533
>>5530
Meanwhile in democracy:
>Holland – Girl (16) Shot In School By Violent Turkish Ex (31)
Sauce: https://thegoldwater.com/news/43734-Holland-Girl-16-Shot-In-School-By-Violent-Turkish-Ex-31
Remember, if you oppose this than you are a bigot and hate democracy.
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No.5534
>>5530
Whereas Wilson and FDR worked in concert to drag the US into the two most destructive wars in history, throwing millions of lives and trillions of dollars away to virtue-signal. And after that we've been in a state of (((conflict))) almost every year, whether it's Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria…
In monarchies horrific and destructive wars are the exception. Every soldier is generally trained or hired from the monarch's personal treasuries, and represents a loss in personal investment, so most wars were fairly low-intensity. Most "battles" were camping out outside of a castle until both sides almost ran out of food, signing a treaty, and calling it good. In democracies they are the rule. Warfare is no longer two leaders conflicting (the king of Austria vs. the king of France), but two countries conflicting (Austria vs. France), as soldiers do not serve their ruler personally, but serve "their democracy" or other abstract notions. They are also not hired from anyone's personal coffers but with other people's money, from the seemingly bottomless pit that is the national budget. As a result warfare moves in the direction of total war much more rapidly, and either side is far less averse to recklessness, collateral damage, mass-destruction, and so forth. After all, they're not the ones paying for it. Democratic wars, such as either of the world wars, are far and away the most destructive types.
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No.5537
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>>5511
>Also, I too liked Little King's Story.
I know right??? My favorite parts are the exotic voices for all the kings, King Shiskebaboo's pinball machine hell and the fact they made Dies Irae into a silly symphony that downplays the king you just defeated. The whole OST is great.
>There's a list of arguments in the about page:
I'll check it out, thanks.
>>5496
I understand perfectly and agree on that sentiment, but would the monarch be above the law itself or would you rather have some sort of inner democratic/constitutional approach? Because the way I see it, having an absolute ruler without having a council of experts on the matter that have to be ruled is as useful as having it the other way around, as in, not useful at all. Even democracy by ballot would be preferable to democracy by popularity.
>>5517
But weren't the Romans deliberately not homogeneous in race? Well at least not in the immediate. Culturally yes I can kinda see it since they replaced or enforced their own.
>>5527
That picture is China incarnate.
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No.5539
Other threads with a similar premise:
>>641
>>416
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No.5540
>>5537
It may seem contradictory, but introducing "limiting" aspects on the monarch such as an elected parliament will only cause the state to increase in size and intrusiveness faster. The members of parliament aren't beholden to the same incentives that a king is, and will favor short-term solutions and their own short-term gain of power than the long-term consequences. Further, because they are elected, there's a certain amount of selection bias towards people you don't want having power–democratic selection favors the sort of person that can win the favor of a large number of people, which generally means an amoral sociopath that can lie through his teeth to get people to like him, and freely pilfers the public treasury to buy a handful of votes. Limiting suffrage to certain people lessens this problem but does not eliminate it.
>having an absolute ruler without having a council of experts on the matter
Abosolute rulers tended to surround themselves with a council of experts and advisors, and relied on their opinions even if the advisors had no true authority.
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No.5542
>>5526
Goon.
>>5527
We already have Niggerland to see how Libertarianism works for much of the world.
>>5530
Reminder that Amerifats are only 56% White and get raped by Kunta Kinte.
>>5537
>But weren't the Romans deliberately not homogeneous in race?
They had a fight a war to let other Italians be citizens. What do you think?
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No.5547
>>5540
In other words democratic institutions select the most power-hungry?
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No.5548
>>5542
>niggerland is niggerland because of their circumstances, not because they are low-IQ niggers
Isn't that the leftist spiel? Also,
>implying Somalia is ancap in any way
Somalia didn't chimp out and break down because the government became small and hands-off. The Somalis had a government that was getting increasingly larger and more communist right before their collapse. Obviously, it's not correct to say libertarian policy is behind the circumstances there.
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No.5551
>>5542
>They had a fight a war to let other Italians be citizens. What do you think?
That ethnically speaking Southern Europe, the lower Middle East and Northern Africa were white and they only became h'white once inbred T*rks invaded.
>The members of parliament aren't beholden to the same incentives that a king is, and will favor short-term solutions and their own short-term gain of power than the long-term consequences.
What about appointing officials who stay in power for a decade and aren't elected per se but chosen by merit?
>>5547
This has always been the case. Democratic institutions only work on a small scale, where the stakes are more personal than those of an entire region. Every problem in our democracies gets only two solutions, both terrible yes/no answers that satisfy only those who would profit from them either way.
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No.5557
>>5542
But most African countries are a mix of based socialism + nationalism. Fascism is quite literally a nigger-tier ideology lol.
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No.5564
>>5557
You don't get it anon, if it's not rea- I mean not white socialism it doesn't count. Real White socialism hasn't been tried yet.
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No.5565
>>5548
Africa outside of Egypt and its neighbor never achieved complex society like Egypt.
>>5551
>the lower Middle East and Northern Africa were white and they only became h'white once inbred T*rks invaded.
WE
>What about appointing officials who stay in power for a decade and aren't elected per se but chosen by merit?
>merit
Codeword for letting Niggers and Cat Ladies be in office.
>>5557
Meanwhile the important parts of Europe weren't lolbertarian across history.
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No.5568
>>5565
It's no coincidence that the most successful country in Europe (Switzerland) is also the most libertarian one. Western Europe was always more libertarian than post-colonial Africa.
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No.5602
>>5495
I don't see why you couldn't be a monarchist, OP. The only real thing people on this board are skeptical about is whether to become an imperialist. We're all very infatuated with the pastoral dream of a small and quaint monarchy. Then the mark of civilization: an Emperor.
<but why support a monarchy?
Why do you support anything other than a monarchy?
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No.5603
>>5565
Africa outside of Egypt and its neighbor never achieved complex society like Egypt
…that doesn't contradict anything I said and is barely relevant to the post to which you're relying.
>Meanwhile the important parts of Europe weren't lolbertarian across history.
You might want to re-check your history.
>Ooga Boogas are most devoted followers of fashy might-makes-right "pragmatism"
>Live in shithole continent
>Euros embrace sound economics and individual property rights
>Most successful and civilized nations on the planet
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No.5607
>>5568
SA cumskin told me his fellow cuskins bear firearms and dont give a fuck about licenses and gun rights
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No.5623
>>5607
Would you want to go to jail for shooting a nigger? There's no use having a fun if it's illegal to defend yourself with it. Besides, funs are most important for protecting you from the government, like when you're a capitalist (((white farmer))) and you need to defend your property from based national-socialist niggers who're coming to take your land.
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No.5629
>>5623
no
i support right to self defence
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No.5633
>>5623
>the white farmers getting their land stolen from them by a commie nigger regime are actually (((-))) that deserve it
that's a new one I've never heard that before. care to elaborate how you came to that conclusion?
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No.5634
>>5633
I don't think they deserve it, I was being sarcastic. I posted above how nat-soc is a nigger-tier ideology because of its similiarity to African regimes, and one example of that is these niggers taking "taking their land back" from evil capitalist foreigners (white people might as well be Jews to them), so what is this if not national-socialism in practice?
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No.5652
There are really only two kinds of men in this world.
The monarch and the oligarch. The monarch is a familyman and the oligarch defines himself by his power. Therefore, oligarchs always have a tendency to dominate the economy, media, and eductional systems and pervert the children of the monarch.
The only alternative familymen have is to have a single overarching power (the Emperor) who can stop these soulless will to power animals.
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No.5654
>>5634
cumskins are to jews what niggers are to cumskins
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No.5657
>>5654
Hey there leftypol/reddit
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No.5661
>>5657
im just edgy /liberty/ guy
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