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 No.6340

Hi,

is it retarded to draw a complex subject again and again from reference with the arm, not the wrist?

I guess you can Train your muscle Memory though this, so is it a weak method or does it Count as legit drawing Training?

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 No.6341

You should use both the arm and the wrist for different reasons. Why it's often suggested that you should train your shoulder/arm is because most people haven't developed the ability to use it in that manner, so it's necessary. That doesn't mean that you ever completely abandon your wrist though.

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 No.6342

>>6341

ok i thought wrist was not recommended at all.

But do you think drawing the same Thing over and over again is retarded or could i gain something from it?

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 No.6343

>>6340

Why would you draw a single image again and again? Just grab a bunch of random photos and draw them.

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 No.6344

>>6343

because i hope to be able to draw them from Imagination.

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 No.6345

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>>6342

It's not bad

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 No.6346

>>6344

Seems like a pretty bad way to learn such a thing. If you draw a single image over and over, you'll learn to draw that image. Change pose or perspective and you'll be completely lost again.

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 No.6347

>>6345

i already knew about the iterative drawing vids from sycra,

but he is doing it different he is drawing from Imagination, then Looks to reference, then draws from Imagination again.

today half an hour ago i did it like this as well, first drew from reference, then drew the same from Imagination.

after that i analyzed the mistakes and then drew from reference again

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 No.6348

>>6347

I think the iterative approach is almost mandatory if your learning without someone else to regularly critique your work and point your mistakes. One thing that become apparent when you fill a page or two with drawings of a similar subject is that patterns emerge. It becomes obvious which mistakes are just due to poor draftsmenship vs repetitive errors stemming from misunderstanding what the thing looks like and how to effectively communicate that.

Regarding how varied your practice should be, I have a personal theory that variety is important for putting additional strain on your brain to form numerous interconnected neural pathways. The brain builds new pathways in response to stimulus, so I theorize that maximizing the "stimulus load" through variety will lead to the most sought after gains. My routine at the moment would be something like drawing heads for 30 minutes, alternating between male and female, switching between headshot, 3/4, and profile views, sometimes looking up or down. When I start getting tired of that, I'll do cubes and ribbons, messing around with perspective stuff. Get tired of that, start doing some facial feature studies: eyes, noses, mouths have been a focus recently. I need to mix in ears as the others are slowly coming along.

I'm interested to see what sort of progress will be had at the 6 month mark. Will it be better, average, or poor?

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 No.6350

>>6348

as i said i am trying something similar.

I am taking the bet-

let us see if we improve in the next 6 months haha!

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 No.6469

>>6345

iterative drawing is trash. doesn't teach you about form or thinking in 3d in any way, and if you want to learn to do something new you have to start all over (as opposed to the way of learning where you understand your subject)

this video explains it all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDNhFLcsgh8

>>6348

lmao

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