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 No.15955

I'm talking all kinds of tools - from just writing to proofreading and organization.

I hear good things about grammary but haven't tried it yet.

Also, a program called Campfire that helps with writing books/novels, since it has maps, timelines, characters, encyclopedia, character arc and such to help keep things neat, organized and visualized. The installer is 200MB, kinda big for a program that just organizes text and images.

So yes, I'm writing a novel and am looking for anything that can help improve the process.

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 No.15956

an education

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 No.15957

>>15956

That's not a helpful answer.

You'd think /lit/ would be filled with classy, well-read and helpful people.

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 No.15961

>>15957

Laconic though it be, it ain't wrong.

>>15955

Depends on the kind of writer you are. Outliner writers may consider all those tools a godsend. Discovery writers find it constraining. I favor Michael Crichton's take on computer aided whatever software. At best it may aid you, but it may not do even that. What software cannot do is to do the writing for you.

"Books aren't written - they're rewritten. Including your own. It is one of the hardest things to accept, especially after the seventh rewrite hasn't quite done it." –Michael Crichton

From an organizational standpoint, one of my favorite writing anecdotes was from Gore Vidal on his last successful attempt to write a murder mystery. "Halfway through the last one I forgot who the murderer was and had to find a substitute." It worked for him. So much for organization.

I would suggest you learn a bit about typesetting or, in today's world, web page design. The point is not to become a typesetter. The point is to learn what you should not be spending time on. Writing is not typesetting.

Grammar checkers won't teach you grammar. The traditional fuckup detector is to pay someone else to look at your writing, or being blessed with a professional editor. Leaving your work sit for a month and coming back to give it a read can do wonders in a pinch.

I use Emacs. As an all encompassing monster of feature bloat on par with Microsoft Office it will try very hard to get in your way of writing. A blank page, cut, paste, spellcheck, and file save. That's the whole of the feature set I use from Emacs. To be fair, one may successfully use this method with any word processor. I like having a Mediawiki installation available as well. What organization I may apply (character notes, plot outline, reference artwork, etc) fits the wiki model. I also use an online grammar checker as a finished product first pass fuckup detector. It's OK, just not a maker of miracles. Miracles remain the domain of editors.

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 No.15962

>>15955

Zettelkasten. It's an idea incubation chamber.

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 No.15963

>>15957

You don’t come here often, do you?

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 No.15965

>>15961

I am quite aware, I often end up re-writing a single chapter or part several times and still think is sucks.

But rather than have all these thing in a hunderd documents over a dozen windows, it would be more efficient to use a tool that helps with that.

As you say your time should be spent WISELY, and wasting time because I have to shuffle trough a dozen documents to a find a name of a character is quite simply bad.

This is partially why I was asking. Campfire looks OK, but I don't want to shell out 50$ if there are better tools out there.

Basically this:

https://www.campfiretechnology.com/features.html

(no, I'm not a shill, just want to ask if there is something similar you guys are aware of)

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