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 No.15832

Book clubs never work!

Why this is going to work

I'm seen book clubs started on different boards and they always fail, which is why I created a reading club instead. No one wants to read a whole book of questionable interest every week, and no one can blame anons for not wanting to. My solution for this is to focus on short stories and novellas, so that plenty of anons have the time and will to finish.

You need more material to talk about than that

Thats a valid point and will be taken into consideration. If it proves to be true my plan is to include multiple shorts by the same author, so that we can discus him as well. This will allow anons who don't want to read a whole novel to participate, while still allowing a depth of conversation.

==The White People== =

by Arthur Mache

E. F. Bleiler wrote that the narrative in the Green Book "is probably the finest single supernatural story of the century, perhaps in the literature", and Michael Dirda has stated: "If I were to list the greatest supernatural short stories of all time, I would start with Arthur Machen’s 'The White People,' about a young girl’s unknowing initiation into an ancient, otherworldly cult." S. T. Joshi has called the diary "a masterpiece of indirection, a Lovecraft plot told by James Joyce", and H. P. Lovecraft himself wrote that "Machen's narrative, a triumph of skilful selectiveness and restraint, accumulates enormous power as it flows on in a stream of innocent childish prattle". I copied this off of Wikipedia, since I don't want to give away to much. I'm going to read it again before I write what I think.

RULES

Use spoilers if what you say requires them.

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 No.15833

File: 263188d62df7829⋯.pdf (76.96 KB,the-white-people-by-arthur….pdf)

I forgot the pfd…..

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 No.15857

Sounds fun.

The formatting on this pdf is awful, by the way.

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 No.15858

>No online text

I can't read otherwise.

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 No.15859

>>15858

Would this work for you?

https://0x0.st/z-cF.txt

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 No.15924

>>15832

thanks anon! ill probably finish by tomorrow or so. my problem with book clubs is that i never have the money to buy each and every book and theres no library nearby

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 No.16015

I liked the dialogue at the start. It sells the theme of the story fairly well. The two characters – the curio and his intrigued companion – are a lot like Holmes and Watson.

It's quite a chore to read through the contents of the green book. It is after all designed to disorient the reader, and in the story, hide the girl's secrets. Later I reread it and the various fairy tales she meanders off into show similarities with the behavior of the girl and the nurse.

I found the ending unsatisfying. The character at the start who was so talkative before is now tight lipped; he knows the statue is involved, that it acts similar to (or is) alchemy, and thinks it's dangerous enough to destroy – but he won't say why. It would have been less annoying to me if he had only heard the girl died in front of the statue.

If I've grasped this right: the nurse is the white woman she first saw at the pond with the man who followed them (both cultists); the cultists all die sudden deaths (possibly due to the [figurative?] wine and bread); they are extraordinarily happy in immaterial ways but can't go back to a normal life; outsiders have died because of the cult and they've been persecuted/killed for this.

Other things: I don't know if the white faces and their language have any significance. I also don't know the bible very well so I'm not sure what the blindfold, when approaching the statue a second time, is a reference to. It's also not clear to me if she literally poisoned herself or if it's figurative.

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 No.16288

File: eddf9d8c98e33f3⋯.pdf (137.43 KB,UNTITLED #1.pdf)

FUCK JON PAUL SOT AND FUCK DISCORD TRANNIES

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 No.16359

>>16015

I agree, the moral discussion at the beginning set a tone that was heavy on philosophy and that's something that I enjoyed. It really gave way to the wrongness that supposedly would be perpetrated later in order to "truly sin". I thought reading through the girls thoughts was fine. the run on sentences were clearly for effect, to give it a rushed and somewhat naive feel. I think that I missed some references in the story, there was a reference to Adam and Eve late in the story that I'm assuming was comparing them to the white peoples introduction. I also wonder if white people has any racial connotation. It didn't seem so from the story but those kinds of things can be easy to miss. Overall I found it to be of high quality but more generally unsettling then frightening or dreadful.

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 No.16393

File: e6ecd98259e34fb⋯.png (92.02 KB,225x225,1:1,ClipboardImage.png)

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